Had a robbery of a Subway with customers inside, one was an elderly former marine that was armed that dropped his wallet on purpose and faked a bad back. As one robber went to pick up the wallet the victim hip shot and put a round through the robber's eye and then fired at the second robber waiting/watch out by the front door. The second robber ran through the glass door and fled on foot and if it wasn't for our K-9 unit he would have bled out since he hide in some bushes a few hundred feet away and passed out due to blood loss. Found out the former marine was previously assigned to Marine One and was an avid shooter that carried two guns since reloading is slower than switching guns. I was a new officer and learned a lot on gun fighting tactics talking from this vet.
That's Former Marine. Once a U.S. Marine always a U.S. Marine. Not trying to be rude. I worked with Active Duty and Former Marines when I was in the USAF and TDCJ. That's good that you were able to learn from him. Good luck and Good Bless out there
@@lindycorgey2743 My bad, i should have known having worked with a few. Def learned from many vets, since I was an officer I was allowed to carry most places that unfortunately most can't and since I'm very much a "grey man" type I've been targeted 4-5 times throughout my life for robberies and having always listened to older vets and people with combat experience put me at the advantage every time.
Good move by the old Devil Dog !!!!!!! I'm a Old Disabled Army Veteran from the Black Boot Army ... We were trained to kill , 2 years overseas with Reconnaissance Security Operational Patrol sneaking around and watching the enemy at times. You have to be ready at all times to fight and Win . You have to have ur head on a swivel and beware what's going on around you . Alot of Veterans are also good at reading people and sensing danger . Be confident and look the bad guys in the eye and let them know with that look you will not go easy and will kill them . You must also already have decided in your mind that you will take a life if you must ....Can't decide then ...it's to late . Always have your weapons ready and chamber....always chamber, there will not be time for that if an attack comes . Carry as much ammo/ magazines as you can .. extra pistol and knives if it gets to that . Train with that weapon and know it inside and out, how to clear a jam quickly and reload ,changing mags. Learn to quick draw you weapon ,how to get it out fast , practice makes perfect . Train ,Train ,Train , your life may depend on it . Just my humble 2 cents ...God Bless everyone and Stay safe, it's a crazy world now . As we say back then in the Army ...." Stay Alert , Stay Alive " ..." Stay Alive , Stay Alert ...A long held Salute to our Fellow Comrades in the Marine Corp. And the Armed Forces ...ARMY ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!
I remember that I didn't believe it then and I still don't, I believe they will change their approach and try for a surprise attack most likely from behind, you think they want to tell you how ? I don't think so, grew up on the streets the up town people called us Sewer Rats I will never forget that.
I should add that I knew a guy who always stab his victim in the kidney from behind with a knife he made in shop class his nick name was Chuck baby. a lot of people wanted him dead that was 56 years ago that he went to prison I hope he died there he was a true monster.
Most criminals are opportunist Like I used to to steal stuff out of cars Know how to keep me out? Simple LOCK your car I'm not gonna smash glass if I can Just open a car door and pretend I'm in my vehicle Plus you can do this with witnesses all around As far as the citizens know I'm in my own vehicle Cause who's dumb enough to steal from cars in the open
@@danayen4806 98% of the time a firearm is drawn in self defense, the gun is never fired... so it is true that they do NOT want to deal with armed citizens. They would attack/rob a citizen not knowing he/she has a gun.... and when the gun is drawn on them, 98% of the time they back down and leave. Had the vast majority of these people known in advance that their intended victim was armed, then they would either back down or would plan an entirely different attack. I think most would back down (unless they had reason to believe they could form a plan to disarm the person or the person was elderly or disabled).
I believe that the 41 % of those claiming to have taken away from a defender does not take into account those that tried and failed. Those people did not participate in this survey.
i would also add that IF they did disarm someone, it was probably someone that wasn't trained with their firearm or they attacked someone as a group. They could have also snuck up on someone they knew was armed (dealer) and got the jump on him.
I believe that 41% who claimed "they have taken a weapon" away from a defender should be taken with a grain of salt, as thieves & criminals are also liars!
I recall a soc media, forum post from a guy who IDed himself as a retired LE officer 🚔. He said in 28yr as a patrol div officer he only saw 2x where a suspect had a gun in a holster or wore gear, mag holders. Most thugs or street crooks steal guns or grab firearms from gangs, friends who need to remove them.
And cowards,they look for SOFT targets. Like a lion/lioness in the wild,they usually go for the weak,lame,calves,old,etc,etc, but,if they're really HUNGRY they';; go for the STRONG too. Out on then mean streets and public,don't be a SOFT target and use COMMON sense. Ladies when you go out in public( day or nite) take a WOLF with you ( I mean a male who isn't afraid to RUMBLE,if necessary) you both are STRAPPED also.You never know what might pop-off.
How many times have you accidentally left your weapon in the car overnight?, How many people have you personally shown the weapons you have?, Of those how many would you have left alone (intentionally or not)..valuables or said weapons with this person - despite not knowing them well enough that you would stake you life or loved ones life on? Think about it Gardner's, laborers, light aquintences. THOSE are the ones that will get you whether they be thieves liares or not in times of distress
And it's surprisingly difficult to draw from a holster and put an accurate shot on target quickly. Even harder to place multiple accurate shots quickly. You don't want to be the person who fumbles to his/ her gun then can't aim and break the shot. Training and practice will almost always make the difference weather your gun is a defensive weapon, or just something weighing down your belt. 🇺🇲
Also knowing you don't have too always pull it. Simply staring at the agressinor and placing you hand on the weapon in a obvious manner is effective as well. I had to do exactly that at a gas station just last year.
The thing to note is that the people being surveyed are the "losers" in their career field. These are the people who are stupid and got caught. These aren't the general people who will cause the greatest amount of trouble for someone. It's the person who's been doing it for a couple of decades and never got caught that you have to worry about.
@@Talishar that is the truth i know that they have over 500 serial killers lose in public and they have no idea who they are. most only have killed a few but 15% have killed 100's about 10% are very bad on how they kill 2% toy with the police and they still have no clue who they are
Fact is not 1 actual hardcore criminal is going to be taking a survey about how gangster he is. The people taking these surveys are probably getting robbed themselves in prison lol.
I would suspect the percentage of respondents who say they have taken a weapon from a victim has a large element of survivorship bias. If you failed to take the weapon away, you likely didn't survive. It's also possible some of them just lied about it.
In part of my prison ministry, I've had opportunity to talk to prisoners in different countries. Almost all of them were cowards who chose weak looking people to be victims.
Scavengers versus predators. The scavengers outnumber the predators by a huge percentage. But, the predators are the real danger. The scavengers are mostly annoying.
"Almost all of them were cowards who chose weak looking people to be victims." Hollywood is part of the problem here. The movies are always have these super-smart, intensely complex crime plots, and even smarter super detectives solving the impossibly convoluted mystery. But IRL 99.9% of crime is simply some low life, dumb-as-a-post jerk simply taking advantage of someone weaker than them. A person with a gun who is trained to use it solves 99.9% of these situations.
Imagine a would be mugger sees three people on the street: a member of a bike gang, a homeless and mentally ill person, and an old man quietly waiting for the bus. Who do you think he's going to try to rob? Wolves always attack the weakest first.
I would caution against the mistake of assuming an opportunist is a coward. All predators are opportunist. Lions will take the opportunity to prey upon a baby gazelle before taking on the challenge of bringing down a water buffalo. Less risk involved. This doesn't necessarily make them "cowards" and to assume such could get someone seriously hurt. Rather, it is more wise to never underestimate the potential threat of anyone or the lengths to which they will go. I worked in maximum security facilities within the Department of Corrections for almost 20 years and believe me when I say "cowards" become victims inside very quickly.
Powerful presentation and confidence builder. Did it put a scare in me? Yes. Will I hesitate if I ever have to use my concealed carry weapon in self defense ? I won't now!
Right. Know that a weapon is a tool for fighting with rather than negotiations. If you must draw a weapon, you want to administer damage before they can react and overcome the surprise of seeing the barrel of your gun.
Yea, but it was kind of confusing how they presented the questionaire in the video, back an forth between questions answered and write in answers. Whatever, something is better than nothing I suppose.
Yup. Years ago an old salty fella who trained me a bit said that the assailant should realize you have a gun after a bullet has been buried center mass. It’s not like a movie where you whip it out then have a conversation about options. If it’s time to draw your weapon the conversation has already reached as far as it can. I cannot stress enough how important training, situational awareness, and muscle memory are to staying safe and avoiding a confrontation if at all possible.
What this survey tells me is that unmitigated lethal force with violence of action is the primary defense in an attack/robbery. I grew up in the hood and most of those who fared the best are the ones who responded with shocking amounts of violence in a defensive encounter.
I’ve mentioned this on one of your other videos, and although this one didn’t cover carjackings, it’s important to keep your head up at traffic lights. There are too many ppl buried in their phones there, and one survey (I don’t remember if it was from USCCA or another organization) indicated a lot of potential carjackers (or maybe even those who want your wallet but not your car) like to see drivers distracted by their phones. I have to remind myself not to be distracted by the radio or just daydreaming. Keep your head up and on a swivel at the traffic light folks!
@@MR-nl8xr I think you meant suburban, but I see your point. I have a friend that always buries her face into her phone at every light. It concerns me.
@Patrick Baptist Gas stations, 24-07 stores are havens for drug gangs, street bums, hookers. The strong bright lights, colors, noise, music draw them in. I was open carrying once in Cleveland TN & was in a service station, store near the check out. 🛒 Everything was fine, I had my M&P 9mm Shield on my side, 2 spare mags by my belt. Just as I walked up to pay for my items, 2 strung out street wierdos burst in with some mania. 🤪 This is what you as a gun owner, OC user need to be aware of.
I've never felt in danger and it's probably because I look like I'm in the military (I am), I walk with a purpose (quickly, determined look), and I carry myself confidently (head up, chest out, arms swinging, hands in a fist). I also am always keeping an eye out, and making it look like I'm keeping an eye out. I would say it is pretty risky for someone to attack someone like that.
Similar to you but not military or ex-military. I was fortunate to work for / with the US Army as a contractor - so I guess some exposure. I have always walked briskly, with purpose. I typically remain fluid, alertly relaxed. My wife tells me that is all BS, according to her, the reason people leave me alone is because I am 6'6" weight 225 lbs and have the male equivalent of RBF.
I have chilled with criminals and spoken to them on a personal level, I have also seen them rob people. This is what I can say about this survey, it is correct. When criminals go to rob a person or business, they go looking for a victim and do not want to die or get hurt during that robbery. When you begin to fight back or show signs that you might fight back, then it turns into a life or death situation to them, so say you pull out a gun, they no longer focus on the robbery but on being able to get out of there, even if it means killing you. You either fully comply, or fully fight back and compliance doesn't guarantee that you will get out of it unhurt, remember that most criminals take drugs before a robbery and depending on how the drugs treat them, they can get jumpy and hurt you for no reason. Case in point, Ananias Mathe, a well known criminal in South Africa who raped all his female victims even if they complied fully. And above all else, remember this: EVIL EXISTS!!!!
But if you do fully fight back, every millisecond is picked over by prosecutors for months in an attempt to hem you up on a murder charge, because that guy trying to rob you didn't really mean it and he was a good boy
Former criminal that got rights restored, haven’t been convicted of a crime (or even accused for that matter) in over 25 years. One thing I learned about people doing time, is A LOT of them are liars, that make themselves out to be a total badass kingpins. If someone is dumb enough to try to take a gun drawn on them, then I don’t feel bad if they get popped.
@@Blue-ke5sb I believe the process is different depending on the jurisdiction of conviction. In general you need to have completed any sentence imposed, paid all fines and restitution, have stayed out of any other trouble and then apply for it.
I worked with a black guy ( former drug dealer, part time thief from the hood) who was in prison for many crimes. He talked alot about his past and said that crooks always look for an easy safe target whether its a person or a home to break into. Its just that simple. They are like predators that go for the weak animals in a herd while hunting. He also said that most of the people in prison were not evil they were just really really stupid as hell.
Also, if someone tries to take your gun. Retain your weapon and give it to them one bullet at a time. Delivered to the target down the barrel until they are stopped.
Learning how to use knives and clubs/batons as side arms as well as effective empty handed martial arts are useful too. Even if you honestly believe that there's no way in hell you'd use anything but a gun it will still create a warrior mindset rather than just a shooters mindset if you expand your knowledge and training past firearms.
Varied and frequent training. Frequent dry fire and live fire at a range are a start. Getting training that allows movement is very valuable. Add occasional IDPA or Steel Match meets and you really find out if and how your gun runs. I do a cold mag dump first thing every time I go to the range. Its the closest you'll get to a sudden need to draw and shoot. The meets are great because you get varying scenarios and you are put under pressure. You can't get that punching holes in paper targets at a range.
I was told as a young woman to "walk tall". Confidence is important. Most predators look for prey animals and avoid what looks like another predator. So look strong, act confident...and walk tall!
I have used USCCA services unfortunately. My case worked out well didn't spend a night in jail, after the incident they had a lawyer come out within a few hrs, all I had was enough time to give USCCA my member ID before the cop hung up on them. I highly recommend their services.
I do believe they are truthful for the most part. My dad was a correctional officer at the only super max prison in the state for 21 years and he said that, without a doubt, the inmates loved to talk about themselves and the ins and outs of crime and committing crime....
Break leather like you mean it while getting off the X and shouting "Stop! Stop!. If the assailant is undeterred, move again while shouting "Stop! Stop!". Good to shoot IMHO
Yeah, lots of people believe the whole "they all say they are innocent" thing. As a former CO, I can tell you that's wrong. Many will tell you, in explicitly graphic detail, every single thing about what they did.
@@strixt my mother was a CO. she said that none of the inmates would ever admit to being a bad person. she told me that every criminal she ever talked to said thing along the lines of: "i had no choice" "i was in the wrong place at the wrong time" etc.
@@Slava_Ukraini1991 Wow, really? (I know that sounds sarcastic, but I don't mean it to be) I was in with mostly Lifers, I wonder if it depends on sentence time. What kind of facility was she at? Also, (not to be sexist) I wonder if they were simply less likely to tell a woman? I know a few of ours were much nicer to the female COs. Also, my last comment makes it sound like they would try to scare you with it. Some did of course, but some would be reflective about it. More like "yeah, this is what I did and I know now it wasn't good" type thing. Those were mostly the older offenders. Edit: Looking back, one thing you'd *never* hear the end of is a write-up. How you did them dirty, or it wasn't what it looked like, or straight up trying to frame them lol. Also, our AdSeg wing was definitely "innocent." I reckon it was a pretty even split, but I guess I was more shocked by some stories that that's all I remembered. Thank you for sharing!
Very informative. Thanks. I think a significant takeaway from this is that if you're being robbed or assaulted, there should be zero hesitation about using your EDC immediately after drawing it. Looks like that old saying of "He who hesitates is lost" is still as true as ever.
Agreed, it's not carried for show & if you find need to pull it then there's need to use it. It should never clear the holster w/o the intent of pulling the trigger; hopefully they see you pull & changes disposition so you don't have to pull the trigger but don't count on it.
We live offgrid and deal with quite a bit of crime in the area, OPEN CARRY is preferred, and encouraged by Law Enforcement here. The sight of a gun discourages most crime here according to the cops, locals, and personal experiences. Most criminals here know who they don’t want to mess with or they’ll end up critter food on the mountain.
Open Carry was allowed in NH for decades. I never had an issue. Now it is a Constitutional Carry State. I live in the South now where we FINALLY got open carry if possess a CCW. Gets rid of the stupid printing laws while concealed fortunately. I like options when it is a hundred friggin' degrees here for weeks at a time. Always use a level two retention holster though.
@@yosquidd242 it actually depends on the person, we definitely take care of our neighbors around here. You typically can tell when folks are up to no good, and don’t belong out here by the vehicles they drive. We’re 4x4 country and when you see beat up old cars driving around out here you know they don’t belong, and typically when you see the people their obvious meth addicts. Would never have believed meth would be so bad out here.
I don't want to use it. not because I don't want to harm a criminal. they made their choice to forfeit their life. what I'm concerned about is having my gun stolen by police as "evidence" and then having my name dragged through the mud in a court case.
@@koobertohumperdink8702 Yes that a worry but I don't care if I pull it and they don't stop and leave I not waiting for 2 seconds while they close the 21 foot gap and kill me. I know criminals all too well EMS 28 years.
Disagree. 90% of defensive firearm use ends without firing a shot. Displaying a firearm to let the attacker know of the possible consequences of escalating the confrontation is a prdtty good deterrdnt.
@@jakubfabisiak9810 I think it's 98%. I don't know where the statistic came from, but I believe it was an FBI statistic. Have heard it many times, but can't say for certain that it's accurate.
Not sure I believe the 57% claim. I have (unfortunately) drawn a weapon three times in my lifetime in self defense. I'm 52 now, but all three times I was in my 20s. Not making the best decisions, in the wrong place at the wrong time, yes, but not looking for trouble either. All three times the attacker fled. Maybe I’ve been lucky. I believe God was with me. Very thankful I've never had to fire in self defense.
I've drawn a knife in three occasions. Twice it scared the thugs, once I got disarmed... (hit me so that I dropped it). Luckily the latter was only interested in establishing a pecking order. What I've noticed was that I had apparently a huge target on my back in my t33ns and early 20s. I haven't changed much, but I haven't been targeted anymore for the most part. However, once someone tried to sneak up on me while his buddy tried to distract me. Once they noticed that I knew what they were up to, they got scared and ran off! (did nothing to threaten them).
It’s likely an issue with the “self-reported” nature of the survey, Rob. Saying you’d keep your guts when faced with a gun, and actually doing it are two different things
Three points: 1. Most of these criminals are young men who commit most of their crimes against other young men, almost all of whom are untrained and conceal-carry beneath clothes in the same places. That set of factors makes it easy to get the jump on someone, prevent them from drawing, beat them or stab them, and then take the gun. 2. The survey can't poll responses from robbers who *tried* to strip a gun, got shot, and died. 3. Criminals will lie to puff themselves up.
Man, America seems like a sad place to live. I don't mean any offense by that but I'm 32, I was brought up working class and I've always had little to no money and I certainly don't live in "nice areas" (though I've never been shy about pulling out my phone or any other valuables I might have) of the places I live but I've never felt threatened by any "thug" or been the victim of an "attacker" nor do I know anyone who ever has to my knowledge despite regularly acting in ways that meet the "perfect target" profile. The fact that it seems like such a commonplace thing that you felt the need to draw your gun 3 times in your 20's and you're far from the first american to describe this kind of thing is just a sad thing imo.
The takeaway I'm getting from this for those of us who carry is if you get to a point where you pull a gun, use it, don't try to scare them off. Obviously every circumstance is different but that would seem to be the general rule
The guidance I've gotten from a trainer...give loud voice commands and identify the threat such as: "Drop the Knife" "Get on the ground" There are video cameras everywhere these days and that video can contribute to being determined as a justified shooter, reckless, or the threat.
Follow the rules of law enforcement. ONLY draw you weapon when there is an immediate threat of death or grave bodily harm. HOWEVER, once the decision is made that lethal force is authorized... and once the decision is made to draw your weapon... USE IT IMMEDIATELY. ANY hesitation will imply you don't have what it takes to pull the trigger, and the aggressor WILL use it to their advantage.
@@donf3877 Not true. This is not proper police training. Police are trained to "deescalate" if possible especially in deadly force senerios. What police do with better training and better knowledge of the laws is different than what citizens should do. Not to protect the violator but to protect the citizen from errors made from excitement and misunderstanding of the legal requirements of every possible incident.
@@TomScott__ Wrong Police Officers do NOT attempt to "deescalate" a lethal force situation. Once it becomes a lethal force situation, "deescalation" attempts end. PRIOR to it becoming a lethal force situation, yes. An officer will do all he or she can to deescalate a situation. He or she will right up to the second prior to it becoming a lethal force situation. An officer MAY and CAN be screaming for a suspect to stop running, or to drop a weapon... but the officer's life is NOT threatened at that exact second. But, once it becomes a lethal force situation, once a suspect takes it to the point where they are in fact a threat to the officer's life, or they are in fact a threat of grave bodily harm to an officer, it HAS become a lethal force situation at that time and the officer WILL fire. They can and many times do have their weapon drawn from the pretense it COULD become a lethal force situation any second. The person has a gun or a knife, or has attacked or threatened to attack them or someone. As a police officer, it is their right and in their power to do so while still attempting to deescalate the situation. However, the weapon is usually held at a ready position. And, it will remain as such UNTIL it becomes a lethal force situation. But once the situation deteriorates to the point it is a lethal force situation, a weapon is pointed anywhere even close to an officer or an attempt is made to bring the weapon into play... THEN it IS a lethal force situation for the police officer. And yes, a civilian is NOT as well trained as a police officer. However, it is also NOT a civilian's "job" to attempt to "deescalate" a situation. It IS a police officer's job. Just the fact a suspect has a gun or a knife, and is threatening with it, is reason enough (at least in Florida) for a civilian to shoot.
I have never been robbed in my life. My wife usually says I look like the guy that would do the robbing. I have friends who were robbed and yes, they did look like a easy target.
All the Hispanic girls at my work think I'm a gangbanger because I have a lot of tattoos,literally never been in a gang in my life.i never look at myself like that type of person but I've had other people treat me as if I was somebody that would be the first to do something wrong lol,I sit at home with my family all day long when not working smdh
You probably have common sense and stay away from places that would get you robbed or away from trash people. More so than your “weaker” looking friends
Ii forgot to mention in my other comment that I saw a video of a prisoner talking about these subjects. He said he agreed to the interview because he wanted to make amends for his crimes, and he said his favorite place to rob someone was in their driveway. Ppl don’t expect that (it’s only a short distance to the car!) so they aren’t paying attention, and they might be distracted thinking about where they’re going, and yes, they may be on their phones.
Not as uncommon as you heard, think about where many arguments start and end too. The shut down after the drive home or the psychological ramping up for drive in and thinking about 10 other things too.
I ALWAYS look both ways before LEAVING THE HOUSE in fact before opening the door. As I round the corner, check before opening the door to the car. Check the back seat of the car before getting in. When I arrive back home check around the car before opening the door AND THE PATH to the front door. I check both neighbors yards too before opening the door. I am NOT JUST looking for humans but RABID DOGS folks. AND back when I lived in FLORIDA, GATORS!
Living and being around places during traveling that is considered pretty hostile or "ghettoish", If your willing confront people, no matter how small or big you are it is critical that you show no signs of lost of confidence, when you speak or talk to any person speak clear and look at them directly. Now this is not a cure all, I been around people who honestly do not care and will just straight up rob you because they are bored and want a challenge that day, but most of the time and maybe due to me having a military background I deter people, also dress very light, keep only what I need to do that said task, I do NOT wear fancy belts or tactical weird gear because that will sometimes appear that you are trying to pose as something you are not. I been told a lot of times or been walked up to "You look like a cop" best response would just say "Yea, I get that a lot" not "No" or "I am prior service" let them create a story for themselves. Also a lot of times these people don't work alone, Your not John Wick and gonna be the hero, If you are able to handle 2-3 guys then I salute you but reality is not fair and if your not trained, fit, and mentally ready you are only hurting yourself.
Good points, plus a victim is usually not on the same level as a professional criminal. The criminal may have committed dozens of robberies, muggings and even a few shootings. You (the generic "you"), on the other hand, has never had to confront a criminal, and may not have been in a physical altercation since grade school. It's an uphill battle for the victim.
@@Sourpusscandy If an area is too dangerous for an unarmed person, it should be avoided, even if you have a gun. The best gunfight is the one that doesn't occur. Capiche?
Grew up in the inner city and you need to have confidence when you walk around, I didn’t started carrying until two years ago but in all that time I learned that having g some skill and being confident is key.
For CCW, your pistol is intended for stand-off distances. I also carry a high quality, rapidly deployable cutting tool. I train with it. In close quarters/grappling range, said tool can deactivate the threat through any number of weak points in the target. I will not list them here, because you will learn them when you train. YMMV
Many years ago I had to take public transportation. I always carried a knife and sometimes a spiked weapon I could hold in my fist. I thwarted two attempts just by being alert and pulling out my blade. Now with the recent SCOTUS ruling, I'll have my .357 magnum or my 9mm.
@@patrickdaly5068 Depends where you're at. Up close like a bus, knife all the way (no bullet pass-through, fastest, slash or stab anywhere is going to be effective), out in the open in large areas like the country you'd want longer range tools. So carry both unless you're out in the country, in which case 9mm would be a convenient and decent pick (though you still might have a knife for utility purposes, but utility knives are nowhere near as safe or as fast as switchblades (I sometimes use a switchblade for utility purposes though, its just like a normal knife but much more convenient especially if one hand is busy holding wires or twine)
Just as criminals will decide if THEY think we will use our gun we pull out to defend ourselves, WE have to decide in a split second if they will run away so we don't have to shoot.
Note for the post production team: I understand that when you have multiple cameras at different angles, the desire is to use them, but cutting every 2-3 seconds can be disorienting and annoying to viewers and increases their likelihood to click away before finishing the vid.
This definitely does make a point about the downside of open carry. A criminal who knows you are armed may attempt to steal your guns. Just like so many anti-gun politicians(another class of criminals.)
The downside is people who open carry but don't pay attention to their surroundings, If you open carry ( or carry in general) you need to aware of what's happening around you and most important you must be willing to pull that firearm and pull the trigger if the situation escalates to that. Otherwise you're just giving criminals another firearm to sell on the black market.
If you open carry you have a small pp period. It’s nothing but an ego booster, tell me one good reason that open is better than conceal carry I’ll wait
I'm curious to know the percentage of "muggers" that are under the influence of something at the time of the crime. 57% seems high for even clear thinking or basic trained people to try to disarm someone that is pointing a weapon at them. That's kinda an "all or nothing" move and in my experience with people, not even CLOSE to 57% would try to disarm another person while remotely clear thinking. That said, excellent point that "If you draw your weapon, you should be trained and prepared to use it".
They're in prison, they just want everyone to think they are soo badass. I bet more than 57% of that 57% they wouldn't try to disarm someone if a gun was pointing at them.
I don’t think it’s that high. Remember that 57% is only of about the 40% who said that a gun wouldn’t deter them. So realistically that’s only about 20% of the people questioned.
I have to go through some pretty interesting areas where I live and have had people who were obviously up to no good around looking me over but with my size and appearance I really don't make a easy target to begin with so they leave me alone without even knowing I'm carrying so I'm sure most of that servey is correct but I do have a hard time believing around 40% have taken a gun away from a victim I'm just not buying that
It's not that hard when you think about it. Most of their victims are other, younger thugs. Remember, the vast majority of them are looking for known drug dealers and other criminals to victimize. Also, with a little experience, you know the general places people carry guns. Nearly every criminal is carrying. Nearly all of them are concealed carrying and will have a shirt over the waistline. If the shirt can't come up or over, the gun can't come out. I remember a military firearms instructor showing one of the critical downsides to concealed carrying and why making distance is absolutely the most important thing you can do. He grabbed the other person's top of pants through the shirt and made it impossible to lift the shirt and get the prop firearm out at all. If someone is close enough to lunge and grab at you, you're better off trying to fend them off and push them away than reaching for your shirt and causing them to jump forward and grab your shirt.
This is huge and needs more exposure. The few times I have been looked over as a potential victim I have simply said, " I'm not the one." Sounds silly but it has worked...they realize I am going to use force to defend myself and move along.
I have looked them right in the eye and just walked on. Raised one eyebrow like you want to try? I am 5'4 female and very sure of myself. All it takes. Also prior Army but was sure of myself LONG before that.
So you have some mystic ability to know when someone is looking over you as a "potential victim"? LOL. Maybe the person just looked your way. Maybe the person is uncomfortable in public and has an out-of-place look on his face, not meaning anything at all. But you being ultra conscious that everyone is out to get you that looks at you in any other way than you expect - yeah you'll say something stupid like I'm not the one. All the while the other person is thinking you are the nut job, and I do not disagree.
A great point to bring up is how you initiate your self-defense protocols. I've been trained the best way is the get your attacker further away from you first, most often with a disorienting strike. for instance, Forcibly kicking your attacker, or giving a quick strike to the face, respective to the situation, gives you space and time to draw a weapon, get help, or retreat.
@@timlewis2068 Only reason I say it, is because it works, friend. I've been in more street fights since I was five than I've had hugs from my parents. my expertise in martial arts has saved a lot more than my life.
Reminds me of a story Mas told about a couple of thugs attacking an elderly gentleman walking with a cane. An elderly gentleman by the name of Rex Applegate.
I'll be honest. I had to look Applegate up. I've often wondered what would happen if somebody tried to mug Jerry Miculek. Actually, I only wonder how long he would take to end his attacker.
I am a disabled veteran and I do limp sometimes. I am always armed and my gun hand is always free. BUT People who meet me for the first time want to know if I am an ex marine or a cop. People don't mess with me and when I am out and about I don't let anybody get near me. I always use O O D A mentality.
Same here. Disabled veteran and a limp along with other medical issues. People that don't know me say I scare the hell out of 'em (only because I hurt 24/7 and not very chipper). I also have a very alert dog.
Mas Ayoob did a study years ago showing brief film clips of people walking on the street(with their permission and bio info) to incarcerated, violent criminals asking who would you attack. They were uncanny in picking easy marks. They said no to a thin, attractive woman-she was a homicide cop; another guy, 5'7", business suit was a no--ex marine recon Viet Nam with multiple hand to hand kills; a 6'4" guy was a yes-philosophy student with no history of any physical work or sports.
I have backed off multiple muggers once by smiling, laughing, and reaching for a "bluff" gun. I will never do that again, and now carry for real. I can't imagine someone taking me on given my attitude, but then again, a sucker is born every minute. And gets shot every minute.
@@chrishooge3442 Yes, you are right. And that is why I now carry a .45 ACP. Its hard for some people to understand, but that particular episode was one of 3 that I got out of, just by being aware. And apart from those, the most serious was when I was playing tennis with the girlfriend of a "kill for thrill", now death row convict , who my neighbors say was knocking on my apartment door, the day he went on his killing spree. Yeah, not what you might call cool.
Great insights. I open carry with a holster these days, which has brought a lot of attention on me, however, not the criminal type. I mostly just deal with interested law-enforcement instead of baddies these days. Most people just give me a wide berth instead of confronting me.
Always conceal carry. The element of surprise and unknowns are the best weapon. Never liked open carry because no one is ever 100% aware because distractions happen. The best and easiest people to rob if I was doing it…..those with their ear buds in. They are sooo easy.
"I shot that man to stop him" You don't want to kill an attacker. You want to stop them. Repeat this to yourself. Tell this to the Police. Say this to the Judge, and have your lawyer tell the Jury if it gets that far. Never say you shot to kill.
The problem with this is, in some cases this can be construed as you believing lethal force was not necessary and depending on local laws can turn the situation onto you legally. You in turn say you believe you/someone else were at risk of death or bodily harm and genuinely believed lethal force was necessary to defend yourself. You say you shot where you trained to, and to most effectively stop the attack against you.
I don't have to concern myself with retention of my weapon if I have stopped my attacker(s). I had already decided to make the tragic decision to defend myself before seeing this video. Having seen this video, I definitely KNOW that I shall not suffer a bully to perpetrate harm/death against me.
This morning I was right behind someone open carrying. I was so close and his gun had no clip or strap over it. I could have taken it in a second. Open carry is kind of stupid unless it's strapped in. Good thing I'm not a criminal.
I agree. We get some open carriers in the stores around here. SW Missouri. And I feel they make a bad public presentation. Maybe cuz they are usually carrying inexpensive semi-autos in Uncle Mike holsters. And I am a gun guy.
@@FestusBro haha. Ya I haven't noticed the quality of gun but I'm not sure I've seen anything impressive. Where I'm at though. Everyone conceals and it's usually a custom glock. People have crazy$ out here.
This is why there are 2 rules I live by. 1. Avoid the encounter by all means available. I physically can't run away, so I avoid needing to by paying attention. And 2. My personal ROE for shooting you have been met before you will see my gun in my hand. It stays hidden if something hasn't done things that make it deserving of being shot...
6:27 so maintain distance, keep your head on a swivel, be prepared to fight, know your exits, and have wound treatment plans. So, in a nutshell, have combat related PTSD. 🤷♂️
Experiences matters. I have been robbed in gun points twice and last one send me to E.R. This Perpetrators are always attack you when your least expected. Thank God I am alive and prayer works, but self awareness of surroundings and follow your gut instinct helps a lot. I have been always stared at stranger until they get uncomfortable, it's alike sending massage that I am ready.
I think there is a significant missing in your study (unless I missed it). It depends on where in the country you are...if the situation unfolds in a more pro criminal liberal area like Chicago vs a more gun friendly/ stand your ground state..criminals will be more emboldened
I'm sure all you have to do is wear a shirt that says "No Robberies Allowed". That alone will deter the criminal. Just like gun control and "No Guns Allowed" signs.
I had someone attempt to Rob be twice in the last 14 years. Both times I was walking alone at night. Both times armed. Each time when the pistol was drawn they ran away without putting pin to primer.
Appearances definitely help deter. It's brushfire season here, so I buzzed my head into a tight crew cut (I'm a firefighter). One of the girls at church said "wow, you looked a lot... nicer with more hair" (think: from Chris Evans to Jocko Willink). I told her, "I've got a wife and a daughter to look after now, I can't afford to look soft." I do notice I get treated differently with shorter hair-- women pull their kids in closer, children stay away from me, and several times I've seen sketchy people in shops put things back on the shelf and walk out 😂 I told my wife that if we have to carry just one gun, it may as well be her because they wouldn't expect that she's packing and a good shot!
Carry a gun as well as a knife. If they are close enough and go 2 on 1 to try to get your gun, that leaves you with a free hand to do work with your knife. Maybe think about a backup gun as well.
Just last night 3 people tried to start a fight with me I put my hand on my gun and said I don’t want any trouble and luckily they left me alone. Honestly I would have been killed at the distance we were… gun or not I knew that very well at the time
Perception is everything! While traveling, I accidently found myself walking into a very sketchy alley, shadowy guys all about. So I sped up my gate, acting like I was pissed off and looking for someone until I cleared the area...silly but effective. I was anything but a lost tourist.
I’ve always been a fan of propriety features for handguns, features like manual safety and magazine disconnect. This has fallen out of fashion today, but the time that a criminal spends trying to figure out how to make your gun work could save your life
Would love to see a vid for women “of a certain age” . Obviously situational awareness is paramount, and ongoing training with the carry gun, but if the bad guy does surprise you, and is too close (within arm’s reach), maybe it’s safer not to let on that you even have a gun? Not sure, even with training, that I’d be able to win a grappling fight with a man less than half my age.
I'll put it this way, old people know their time left on this planet is short and limited, a younger person has a little more life to look forward too and more likely to rethink their decision. If you're very close, switchblade is very nice tool (messy of course, but effective). However if you're 90 and they are 40, well either use the pewpew or give up, because once you start stabbing you better not stop otherwise they'll turn it around and only 1 person is walking or crawling away. That's pretty much always the case with self defense, either decide to use it, or give up, there is rarely an in-between especially at close ranges.
@@jakegarrett8109 This is stupid. Young people are morons when it comes to death. Why do you think militaries recruit young? They don't think it's gonna happen to them.
Good video, thanks! I have been carrying for 46 years, both as a law enforcement officer and as a civilian. I think many civilians think in terms of how police sometimes draw their weapons but possibly end up not using them at all. As a civilian, this is a deadly mind set to be in and puts you at a tactical disadvantage. The element of surprise is everything. I know there are many instances where people have prevented a crime, just by showing a weapon, but there's probably just as many, maybe more were someone pulled a gun, hoping the crime would stop, and it did not have the desired effect. My personal civilian policy is, you should never draw your gun until you've reached the point where you're in fear of your life or serious bodily harm, and then, you fire to stop the threat! In other words, you will never know I am armed, until you feel hot lead in your body.
Oy vey PIGS ARE CIVILIANS, too, they just have: -Qualified Immunity and never pay personally for their failures or crimes -Extra privileges because they are Sovereign Citizens and Welfare Recipients -A Thin Blue Gang to back them up Don’t get uppity, pig. Know your place and your title.
My firearm saved the lives of my fiance, my unborn child and myself. Fortunately the deterrence of having the firearm and being properly trained in how to manage that specific firearm in stressful situations was enough to stall the attacker until the authorities arrived. But I will say this, having the gun and showing I was trained to use it was not enough on its own to cause the attacker to flee like I had previously thought. Had the authorities not been called or arrived in such a timely manner, there's no telling how differently the situation could have played out. I pray that nobody has to be put into a situation like my family had that day but if you and your family are, I pray you are trained and willing to do what needs to be done for the safety of yourself and family.
Yeah, why would anybody believe a violent felon if he says "I won't hurt you" if you comply?!? When somebody shows you their true self, believe them. The thing is juries and the general public need to know this data.
because even though they are a criminal, theyd much rather a mugging charge which probably isnt a fellony, over a battery or a murder charge, which get investigated a lot lot more. Ive been face to face with a guy mugging me that had a gun, you bet your ass that even though i was carrying i wasnt about to draw, i just followed his instructions and he let me go. its just not worth it if they already have the drop on you and are in an advantageous position, ie, already having a gun drawn and pointed at you, you just cant pull, aim and pull the trigger faster than they can just pull the trigger.
@@agentbarron3945 - I don't doubt your story. Doesn't mean that I am going to believe a violent felon. I have seen it go the other way many times. I have worked in the corrections field for 30 years and know many people who killed or tried to kill the victim because they thought it would decrease their chances of getting caught. You sound fortunate that the person who robbed you wasn't thinking irrationally. How many violent felons have such detailed, rational thought? Vs, how many want the rep for "putting in work" or have polysubstance abuse or are in mental or emotional distress? How many murders started of as a robbery?
Think about weapon retention? Yes, absolutely. But also think about training to draw and fire instead of drawing and warning. A firearm isn't a magic wand to be used to shoo away baddies. In the context of self defense, it's the deployment of deadly force. If you've already made the decision to draw, firing should be your immediate next action.
The only reason they 47 percent were able to take the gun away... is because during that situation your fight or flight instinct kicks in and your loose your thought process you have while at the range and calm... most people who had their firearm take I promise ndidnt train enough and most likely never trained drawing and turning off the safety at the same time.... From personally being in a self defense shooting with little experience in firearm training... I can tell you the very last thing I was thinking about was the safety on the gun I used.. and what kind of gun did my target have... The reason I say I didn't care about the kind of weapon he had was because of the whole .22lr self defense carry argument... if your faced with a situation like this the last thing on your mind is going to be " oh I what kind of gun are you pulling on me... oh a .22, oh a .45. Oh a 9mm...... those are they last thoughts in your mind... the first thoughts are someone is trying to harm me they pulled a gun that appear to be deadly. (The robber in my situation had a co2 pistol.. but you would not have known that in the few second the situation happened).. So my best advice is if you see someone pulling a gun on you.. find cover immediately pull your self defense weapon gather all the information you can about the situation...where is the intruder... are the holding a gun or a knife or ther type of weapon... and just gather as much information as you can while in that high alert state. After the situation you will be asked a ton of question.. don't anwser them until you have had atleast 48 hours of rest... for the next 24 after the shooting you will be in a state of shock and will be constantly running over the situation in your head..
I forget which prob2A channel reported it. But they had some statistics that showed that for every one crime committed with a firearm, there were 44 other crimes prevented due to a firearm (legally carrying citizens). Those 44 were predominantly, merely, showing or presenting a firearm was enough to stop the crime in question.
I bring this up all the time when the subject of gun control is discussed. I don’t know how we can focus on how many lives are SAVED every day by firearms in America because it’s somewhat subjective. I like it though…44-1 should be a slam dunk for us pro 2A.
If you remember who had that information if you could please let me know. I would like to have that info at my disposal to pass it on to people who need to hear it.
Criminals have the benefit of planning out the 5 w's and how. If you find yourself as part of a criminal's "who" then it's imperative that you understand the criminal(s) have accepted the potential outcome(s) of their action(s) and you must in turn act with conviction. Failing to act with conviction can mean the difference between being a statistic or surviving.
@@Slava_Ukraini1991 Many will charge at you and tackle you. Especially after the pepper spray. This is why grappling skills are important. A knife is only gonna backfire if you can't keep a hold of it.
My airhead sister-in-law has a CCW and carrys a gun. Knowing how she thinks. I asked her why she carries a gun? Her reply, "For my safty." Another question I asked, would you shoot someone if you had to? Here stupid answer, "Oh no, I could never shoot someone." I told her to stop carrying a gun because she would just be donating it to a criminal.
I agree 💯 . If YOU are not fully ready to rapidly deploy or use deadly force in a critical incident, DO NOT buy or carry a firearm. 🚫 Guns are not toys, political statements, fashion accessories or props. If you can't fully deal with killing another human being in a 1/100th of a second, you may be a liability & more than likely murdered. ☠️
I had an experience once a couple years ago that reminded me of another very important thing to remember if you hafta draw… sometimes the person you pull a gun on has had guns in his face a hundred times in his rotten life, and the psychological effect you’re going for may not happen. Fortunately the individual intent on assaulting me chose to just cuss me some more and go away. But not before he made sure I was aware that he wasn’t afraid.. but that experience forever imprinted in me a much deeper reverence for the reason I carry my weapon.
Most people who carry and would pull a gun are not willing to shoot or will hesitate to do so, not because they are scared, but because of our stupid laws. They know even if they were in the right a prosecutor is going to come after them anyway.
That’s why I limit my travel is big liberal cities as much as possible. Never forget the old saying “it’s better to be judged by 12 rather than carried by 6.
As to Carry Conceal and being robbed.. I follow the old rule.. Don't pull out your weapon unless you're going to use it. Don't use it unless your shooting to kill. Glad I've been trained and I practice at the range regularly.
It’s sometimes difficult for me to be a strong 2A supporter and simultaneously be an advocate for compulsory firearms training and periodic requalification. It’s my issue for sure but I wish more people took firearms proficiency seriously. In my opinion firearms proficiency is an essential ingredient for developing confidence and improving your situational awareness. Obviously there is more to PD effectiveness then hole punching in paper targets but more range time can greatly reduce firearms anxiety and that may help in a real world PD situation. Great video; interesting subject.
I'm with you. I crutched on my military training for too many years. I've come to the conclusion that if you don't attend some sort of training that allows you to move and shoot under numerous scenarios...then you aren't trained. I'll go further. If one hasn't been to a range to manipulate, draw, reload, and correct a malfunction...then you are out of practice and not safe. How often...at least once every two months. Without training and practice one can't be proficient and safe. Dry firing counts but only live fire will familiarize you with how the gun (and you) perform with recoil at various ranges. Add some kind of IDPA or Steel match a couple times a year and you will find out how you perform under pressure. I cannot advocate for having a gun, much less carrying, if the person doesn't have the willingness to practice and the judgement to use it. I'm afraid since the pandemic there are far too many untrained gun owners out there. They are more likely a danger to themselves and their loved ones than a possible attacker.
Instead of sending $40 to afghan for gender studies and $80 to ukraine to help nasis, we could put that back into the low income American Firearm owner to get yearly training classes!!!
@@chrishooge3442 that's up to them isn't it? since they are the ones trying to pass legislation to make it so it's mandated to have insurance for owning firearms.
I'm a bit conflict here, on one hand I really liked this post on the other hand this post just made me realize I don't even earn enough to be a robbery victim.
Don't pull your gun on someone unless you have to. If you pull your gun on someone be willing to use it. NEVER pull a gun on someone only to scare them off.
Absolutely. My motto is "The first time you see my weapon is the last time you see anything." I've never had to draw but my 1911 is kept always at condition 1 and ready to send rounds downrange should the need ever arise.
Truth is, the immediate display of willingness to engage, at what ever level, is your first best defence. An accute awareness of your surroundings, will enable you to be difficult to trap or approach. A sharp mind. That, is the true weapon. That, is where protection starts. A clear cool head, and willingness, exudes confidence. The active choice to engage. Strike fast and hard and don't stop the attack short. Finish it with pain. Every single human can be broken down peice at a time. When it is broken, it can not opperate. Every person feels pain, not fear. If you can not instill fear, instill pain.
