One has since been found. Check the wikipedia article noted in the video's description. It was only a matter of looking at enough dictionaries and corpora of text.
S C A P H A R C A E C E R R A T E A N A A R G O L E T I E R P R O C O L I C I N H A L O B O R A T E A T E L O M E R E S R E T I R E M E N T C A I C A R E N S E A N E I T E N S I S E A R N E S T E S T Including it here in case anyone checks in the future - VERY cool you created this video before that! Did you confirm that each of those 10 words were in your set @sirrandalot ?
I was about to scold him for not using tries (like the trie data structure) but the dude who make the 10-square did, according to his github java programme also seems like he used lots of technical words too. but it's fair game i guess.
for those wondering: S C A P H A R C A E C E R R A T E A N A A R G O L E T I E R P R O C O L I C I N H A L O B O R A T E A T E L O M E R E S R E T I R E M E N T C A I C A R E N S E A N E I T E N S I S E A R N E S T E S T and from wikipedia: "The solution... consists of five binary nomenclature epithets of species names, a term for a type of inorganic compound, and a name for a precursor form of an organic compound, as well as a rarely used word, an obsolete word and a standard English word, with the newest word having been introduced in 2011."
I was thinking you could enumerate all 10x10 squares that could be completed with a single new word and analyse those, to see, if they have plausible English phonetics, so we can start a concerted effort to get it accepted as a valid new word
In 2023, Matevž Kovačič from Celje, Slovenia compiled several publicly available dictionaries and large corpora of English texts and developed an algorithm to efficiently enumerate all word squares from large vocabularies, resulting in the first perfect 10-square. The newest word in it has been introduced in 2011. So, just a dictionary issue, i guess. It was possible, yay!
First of all, we need to ask if one is sufficient. Perhaps the truth is that 2 or 3 (or more) new words are needed for this problem to be solvable. Either way... I am stoked for this and will incorporate these words into my vocabulary.
@@freescape08 Genuine question. How is this not all words? Like, There is not a singular original language which has always existed and from which all words are derived. Somewhere down the line with all words, Someone made something up which is not derived from a previously existing word. It's just not always obvious because for most words, That process happened a really really long time ago in a completely different language. Some new words are stupid. That is inarguable. But what you are advocating for is effectively the death of a language evolution process which has been happening for thousands of years.
The question is, how close does it get? If we can get it so that one more word is all that's needed, then we can determine what that word would be easily, thus creating a new word that literally means "the solution to a 10x10 word square".
Looking at some incomplete tables could be a way to invent new words, If a corresponding word to continue the table has not been found, continue on the same table with a blank space witch could be any letter, then if the table can be completed you can deduce what word need to be invented for that table to become valid, generating new unecessary things fo us to give a meaning.
The artist watsky did something similar to this for his last three albums. COMPLAINT, PLACEMENT, and INTENTION. When the covers are arranged next to each other they form like this COM PLA INT PLA CEM ENT INT ENT ION
I can't tell you how much I adore that "yeet" is a real word at this point. And it's not like, tech words that get invented because a new thing exists, like "webisode" or "bitcoin". It's just something that happened on its own. In a couple centuries it'll just be a normal word, fully integrated into the language.
It's a slang word, it will either die out sooner or later unless people really fall in love with it and it stays forever. OK was slang once but it survived, but only the strongest words survive the test of time, now ask yourself, is yet ready for the ultimate test of time?
I seriously doubt it. German does have the advantage of being additive, but its vocabulary at large is smaller than English and it's also very consonant-heavy in ways that aren't conducive to identifying solutions for larger values of n. (Also there aren't a whole lot of words that start with c, ä, or ß)
It would be great to see how close your algorithm got. Then take the ‘missing’ word(s), make definitions, and start using them in society to try to get them to become actual words.
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People who believe in "official" or "real" words should be forced to feed on the corpses of their loved ones before being burned to death. And all of this broadcast to every language prescriptivists as a warning.❤
D I S C U S S I N G I N C A N T A T O R S C A R L A T I N A C A R N I T I N I E S U N L I K E E N E S S S T A T E S W R E N S A T I N W E A V E I T I N E R A T E S N O N E S E V E N T G R A S S N E S T S -only answer to the ten letter wordsquare
doesn't each word have to be 10 letters? if so why would didn't your shorten the list to only be 10 letter words. If you can use words of less than 10 letters as long as you have multiple words on the line why not still remove the words that are over 10 characters?
ever seen the Latin one that actually means something? "Arepo the sower holds wheels with care" SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS and it even reads the same backwards! Edit: wait it's on the Wikipedia too of course it is
I have a plan to use AI to make new, meaningful words. GPT makes up new words as part of its process because it thinks of words (sort of) as being in a continuous hyper dimensional space (technically it does that with word fragments), and basically what transformers do (the base technology) is it translates its inputs into better inputs based on the context around it. So AI actually already has an infinite dictionary, because where word' lands in concept space isn't matched to a real word. GPT can also form meaningful sentences that have never existed from words that do exist. Well you could just shift this problem down a level and instead of using tokenized words you use letters to understand words instead of words to understand sentences. And then just like it can create new meaningful sentences it could create new meaningful words out of existing characters. Though internally that would mean it has an infinite character vocabulary. I like where this is going.
@@FlopgamingOne yeah and then the encyclopedia came up and tried to kill him but got dictionaried all over. There was so much dictionarying all over the place and he dictionaried all over that encyclopedia guy that he exploded from the amount of dictionarieness filling the room
@@joshuaburnett7643You want language to bend space-time to the point of folding the universe in half so as to enable transdimensional travel akin to teleportation?
It's funny that, because it's made its way into some's everyday vocabulary, it pretty much is a legitimate English word that schools may someday have to teach
There's a really cool variation of Wordle called Squardle, where six 5-letter words are arranged in three rows and three columns, to make a square of intersecting words with four holes in the middle. Every week, there's also weekly board that's completely filled, with five words in each direction, which this video reminded me of. Of course, the words aren't the same in each direction, because that would ruin the point of the puzzle.
As a longtime Scrabble (TM) player, I find that the hardest rule to define is whether a word is English. Is "edelweiss" an English word? It's the German name for a flower found in Austria, but English doesn't have any other name for it. (You didn't mention slang specifically, but the same problem occurs.)
I don't know what my problem is but when I saw the yeet at the end, I decided I could make my own 4x4 puzzle based off "yeet" and now an hour later, I'm finished. Y E E T E N V Y E V E R T Y R E Now this is the first time I've ever seen one of this so I probably did it wrong, but there's my brain doing something completely pointless rather than working on something I've been procrastination on for 3 day.
I was more bored so I made one with “yeets” 💀 it does use a slightly obscure word “etyma”, a word that describes words that are earlier forms of words (lol) Y E E T S E A T E N E T Y M A T E M P I S N A I L
@@znicoshi school work + lack of motivation, it’s really annoying cause I wanna keep making content but whenever I try it feels impossible to get the motivation. My last school exams end in November though, so maybe after then?
We are not just casually inventing 10 letter words. The reason we invent so many words like yeet and yolo is because they’re short, catchy, easy to say, easy to remember lol I would shocked if kids just started saying a new 10 letter word
yeetlessly [adverb, y-ee-t-luss-li] | derived from yeetless (to not be able to throw, unable to yeet), which is derived from yeet (to throw, or launch over a long distance, typically with the hands) | to perform an action in a way which doesn't involve the process of yeeting, or launching over a long distance. | He yeetlessly passed the ball.
But what is the maximum size of a word square where each line can be also read from right to left and bottom to top and still have all valid English words?
I wonder if there are already old english words that could be included that would make it possible. Like in some sense its not the same language but it still feels like it would be fun to try.
Almost certainly, given how it works for different sizes of squares. His answer would depend on his dictionary, and wouldn't necessarily be 100% correct.
time to invent a word that allows to work with 9 already existing words together for the perfect word square order 10. It can sound as stupid as we want. the words existence is to complete the word square which would give it a meaning and existence
yeetorious- a portmanou of yeet and victorious. to win by launching your opposition into second place. (also i just made it up to be 10characters long)
Imagine thousands of years ago, when we first started trying to speak to each other and forming words. Now we've found a way to have a machine do all the work for us. Insane! From Unga Bunga to Beep Boop YEET
Wow that was actually very cool... I´ve been wondering myself since I watched that video, but didn´t have the knowledge, time or will power to try it myself. Cool!
The word untillable, description, impossible, passionate, antibiotic, resistance, imperative, unpleasant, underneath And determined exists. Give me support it took a long time 😥🙏
4:11 Problem with that; the younger gen likes simpler easier to spell words like, "rizz", "yeet", etc. They like double conscience and double vowel words and words that are simple in size like 3 to 4 words.
I have to wonder now, if you were able to find a reliable trend for how many new words come into common use, fall out of use, and how many new random words would have to be added to complete a perfect 10, how accurately could one predict how long it would take before the perfect 10 becomes possible. This is of course assuming that the addition, subtraction, and length of words follows a trend and that trend stays consistent into the future. Edit: Just saw that one has actually been discovered, so nevermind
