WE COULD HAVE EXPLODED! The switch to LiTime LiFePO4 after battery bank was OFF GASSING (Ep47)

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In previous videos, we searched for our perfect boat. Just a few weeks ago in mid-February, we found her. This week we're on our 1976 Tayana 37 (CT37) Taiwanese build designed by Robert Perry. She boasts a teak deck, roomy quarters, and needs a lot of work, and the projects have begun! sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com
This week, we're installing a LiTime Lithium Battery setup ( LiFePO4 ) with a DC to DC charger, and a Solar Charge Controller. We're replacing our previous battery bank of lead acid batteries because they were off-gassing and setting off our CO alarms due to the hydrogen, which creates a very dangerous situation in the boat, and literally puts us at risk of explosion. Our new lithium battery, at 460Ah, is roughly the same amount of power as the previous bank of 4 batteries, but all in one single battery, plus we still have room for more!
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@lonestarcj8132 6 дней назад

Your sunglasses make everything look happy because you are happy.

@berndm9743 4 месяца назад

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR GORGEOUS HUSKY 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thanks! We've decided to keep him... he was a foster, but I guess now we a call him a rescue. hahah His name is Bentley (Bo for short), and he's 7. He is also half akita!

@gatecrasher1970 4 месяца назад

dog stayed watching amused at a simple fix lol

@jeremybarrow2455 4 месяца назад

Danger is my middle name. Hydrogen sulfide gas is part of life for lead/acid batteries. But, it’s not really an issue unless you’re overcharging them. The alternator must have been pushing some serious amperage for three batteries to discharge! Hope you saved the old batteries for backups. An inline fuse would slow the charging to the batteries if you are worried about it. See y’all when you get back! Hold fast and batten down. There’s a strong front moving through the north end of the Gulf tonight. I don’t know how far it’s gonna dip down south.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

If I know Hal, this batteries are sitting in the back of his truck at home. 😂

@simplecountrydrummer 4 месяца назад

Another great thing about Lithium batteries is you can mount them any way you want.. sideways, on-end or even upside-down it does not matter.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Oh! Cool!

@RandomPrecisionMotors 4 месяца назад

That happened to me in a Semi when I was driving...4 Lead/Acid Batteries in Series and one or more were off gassing (come to find out later), and when I went to start the Truck something in the Battery Box arc'ed and the Explosion was strong enough to rock an International Navistar and reduced the Battery Box to twisted junk! Needless to say I was stuck for 7 1/2 hours in a Warehouse Door in frikkin' Newark New Jersey, but I got 25 bucks an hour for the trouble...but that was pretty scary stuff...never had a Battery explode on me before...

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Wow. Dang. Well!! At least you were ok! And got paid!!

@allenclark1914 4 месяца назад

Another great episode, anxious to see the progress of your build and set sail to far away places.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thanks Allen! Happy to have you here with us!

@72hourbob61 4 месяца назад

Yes it is! The clamps are loose.

@michaelcarron3418 4 месяца назад

They have a product that comes in a bottle with a dropper and you put a few drops on the green dog mat. He will know that's the spot to do his business.

@fish1860 4 месяца назад

Our dog held her pee for 35 hrs before she went on deck. Now she goes all the time.and I agree with you. I think the bar was moving inside the plastic supports

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Dang! hahaha, I think he will bust before then! But I could see that... once they HAVE to do it, they know what to do. lol

@user-ku9wf3si5c 4 месяца назад

May be a bit optimistic with the size of the mat😂

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

@@user-ku9wf3si5c yeah the size on the internet was kinda scammy. They included the sides as part of the width and length. 🙃 It wouldn’t have been much bigger anyway, but… still! Either way, I measured the spot is was supposed to go (which Hal took away at the last minute) where it would be safe for us to keep there consistently and still be able to handle lines and such, and that’s roughly what we could fit. He goes to shore constantly anyway, though, but at least this one is compact and he’s pretty smart so he just may decide to use it on long hauls.

@davekimbler2308 4 месяца назад

You two fight like an old married couple , like my wife and I ( 40 years married 43 years together ) little zingers from the hip ! It's funny to watch and keep score LOL ! Don't ever change and don't take things to seriously !

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Well we’ve been really close friends since I was 11, and I’m 36 now… so we kinda ARE like that! Hahaha We’ve been close for long enough we give each other a lot of shit

@davekimbler2308 4 месяца назад

I always believed you must be friends before lovers , My wife is my best friend and you 2 act that way also !@@TheSirensLog

@bearitraeb 4 месяца назад

17:26 MOM!!!!! Stop filming me going potty 😂😂😂

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Ohhhh! Hahaha maybe that’s why he won’t go!! 😂🤣

@jeffreygilchrist1330 4 месяца назад

Anyone could see those plastic clamps were slipping as well as the stainless pipe I’d be replacing them immediately ,don’t worry about the naysayers on lithium batteries they are fine it’s just the e-bike and scooter batteries that don’t have a bms that get into trouble

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thank you!!! Yeah, we have the newest LiFePO4 style lithium batteries that many people are going to. Hopefully we're fine!

@TheMikesylv 4 месяца назад

I definitely share your taste in naval architecture

@glenndavis479 4 месяца назад

I'd switch those old plastic pivot clamps out they do look weather fatigued , maybe some new ones or at least buy a set for spares just in case.

@shaneparrish9991 4 месяца назад

Great idea for doggy bathroom, you need an SUV cargo liner with bigger lawn for that big boy of yours. If that doesn't work the pup could use.. just kidding. Things are looking great. I switched to AGMs a couple years ago, heavy.. just don't trust lithium yet

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

I looked and looked for a good cargo liner on Amazon that would arrive in time and honestly didn't come up with much. I'm sure once we're home and can look across the entire internet we will find a good one, but I ended up with a similar thing, which is more of a doorway, shoe thing for boots and such, essentially the same, but when I got it in the mail I realized they cheated on the sizing. Their measurements INCLUDED the sides!!! so the actual size was almost 2 inches smaller on each side. lol But yeah, he needs something bigger, it's just hard to fit anything on the boat. He's smart though! I'm wondering if he can't handle the little one. We will see! It's all we've got now!

@JK-gn6qr 4 месяца назад

Hal, maybe a thin piece of split hose in the clamp jaws over to the bracket ends on each side secured by 2 wide hose clamps each side would secure it enough to make it home?

@jeffreyerwin3665 15 дней назад

I feel that doggy ought to have a much bigger patch of grass.

@TheSirensLog 14 дней назад

I feel we’d need a bigger boat. Right now, the patch isn’t even where it is in this video because we carry dive tanks and fenders up there so Hal moved it back over to the side and this is literally almost the width of the area it’s in so… there’s literally nowhere else to put it.

@bearitraeb 4 месяца назад

14:25 😂😂 video says it all. That rust spot of the bar is barely moving. 😊remember we all have different POVs and the cameras pov wins

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

I voted that the plastic part needed to be replaced and could break off! Hal voted that it was the metal. I dunno...

@melissaboutwell2001 3 месяца назад

I'm with you Siren. Bar didn't budge. Bracket was rocking. Ah well, hopefully the zip ties keep it tight for you. @TheSirensLog

@paulbillington9974 4 месяца назад

must agree the bar whos not moving it whos the brackets sliping

@captainborchik3141 4 месяца назад

check the bulk heads, for the moisture

@haltarpley9237 4 месяца назад

Surveyor did that Non was found.

@michaelcarron3418 4 месяца назад

Strap it down or use Bungy Cords to secure the solar panel. You know that new Lithium battery will need a higher charge rate than the Lead Acid type, right? Phantom Draw Current shut everything off then check to see if there is a current draw-down? Just checking.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

That is part of what he was showing in the beginning, how to change the settings with our inverter for lithium. It’s in the video. And he did reinforce the panel with zip ties, in the video as well. The panel isn’t strong where it sits, but should he encounter heavy winds, we can easily remove it until we get home and get a new davit system.

@markchodroff250 4 месяца назад

With a large solar panel like that you better attach it better, it seams a lot of your repairs and installation of systems are done as a jury rig , don’t get mad but when your life and others depends on the security and reliability of your boat everything you do must be a better standard then what your doing now !

@haltarpley9237 4 месяца назад

Solar panel isnt a safety concern and easily detachable if the occasion should arise. Any and all vital systems to the boat have been fixed with no expense spared. I am trying to get her home. Not setting her up for world travel. 100 miles, mostly under engine, in the ICW. If anything happens I'll ground her and call Sea Tow.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

You say that but since buying the boat, I spent $13k in just 3 weeks making the boat sound enough to travel. We’ve done a lot more than we could ever show on RU-vid.

@morganstone4256 4 месяца назад

Ground last

@shades1959 4 месяца назад

Love the new Shades. They make you look 👀 Happy. Sonny's is a good little BBQ place

@over-there 2 месяца назад

I would go 48v 5kw rack mount for 1100 to 1500 dollars, 48v for solar, and makes wiring smaller like for windlass, inverter. Then stack the racks.

@russellwatkins4261 4 месяца назад

The dog is probably thinking ..what is this plastic chihuahua size grass for?

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

It’s all we have room for right now

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

But I will say that Akitas are very smart and I have no doubt he will figure that patch out. lol

@adriannicholson8819 4 месяца назад

to smill I like my 120 feet 4 king size room with onsweets and the helly deck help out too

@grazzitdvram День назад

just a comment here, a properly maintained lead acid battery basically lasts forever, a lithium battery has a max life of around 8-10 years. So yeah, they hold more mojo but they don't really live all that long.

@adriannicholson8819 4 месяца назад

and you get a wind trubin as a back up they can be a life saver on dark day

@CuriousHumbleMarie 4 месяца назад

Goodness loved watching Bentley! Leave a bit of his fresh urine and poop on the mat for he’ll know that it’s okay to relieve himself there. The smart cutie will figure it out. 💩

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thanks!! Yeah that’s gonna have to be the next move. So far we’ve been taking him to shore but the first time we spend the day at actual SEA, he’s going to have to!!! Hahaha

@sempertalis1230 4 месяца назад

When I read the titel I had already a question about it. Lead batteries are not known for beeing an hazard to explode. However Lithium batteries can fail in a way which will not allow you to extinguish it. litium technology has unquestionably benefits which outwaight the risks but from a savety perspective lead batteries are much mote failsave. Outgasing of lead batteries in a well ventilated enviroment ( a sailboat should be well ventilated for various reasons) is no thread at all.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

There have been many, many cases of lead acid batteries exploding on boats.

@mickey1299 4 месяца назад

@@TheSirensLog Interesting , sorry yes i've know there is a risk , but i've not heard of this actually happening in over 50 years . All lead acid batteries gas , it's a natural part of the charging . However i have heard of more Lithiums of all types catching fire in the last five years to last a lifetime . Personally speaking , i would prefer to deal with a gassing lead/acid , than a potential bomb on any boat on open water . But hey you pay your money you make your choice ! .

@evinwhiteson4902 4 месяца назад

@@TheSirensLog never heard of it once. I would like to see some data of lead acid batterys exploding from dating as there designed to gas.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

@@mickey1299 Well many people would argue the opposite, that lead acid batteries are “bombs on boats” and while I don’t personally know anyone who has had that happen, a quick google search does turn up plenty of people who have. In the end, neither are amazing options but they’re fairly necessary. But note that when I say the batteries were off-gassing, I don’t mean that they were off gassing at normal levels. I mean they were fried, boiling, swollen, and off gassing like hell. So… that creates a very dangerous problem. If they’d been new batteries, maybe not. The point here was that when our lead acid batteries were fried, we had the opportunity to switch to lithium OR replace the entire battery bank with lead acid. If we had stayed with lead acid, we would only ever have this much power. Switching to lithium allows us to triple that power. Also, these are LiFePO4 lithium batteries which are very safe.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

@@evinwhiteson4902 You can Google it. There are many accounts of it happening but I’ve not known anyone that it happened to personally.

@captainborchik3141 4 месяца назад

lots of work

@davidcahill3104 4 месяца назад

Good job 460a is a decent size bank to start with.

@colinboniface194 4 месяца назад

89K for a Tayana seems through the roof... Navika was fully refitted for global cruising and sold for 67K last year... Anyway, that's a huge battery... Nice job...

@evinwhiteson4902 4 месяца назад

Depends. I spent 250k over the last 20 years on my tayana. Did well over 100,000 miles while doing refit around the world. I would like to think mine is worth that much. It's got everything refit 5 times now.

@robbyoliver4953 4 месяца назад

I don’t know much about batteries ! I would like to learn. All power banks for solar are lithium I think in homes that are off grid. It is best at any point to keep them cool. Because heat is their enemy. I had a truck that I needed start and it was dead, so I jumped started it I caused a spark and one lead acid and battery blew the top off right in my face. It didn’t catch fire but of course I had to replace it. So as far as safer I do think they are but any can have issues. One channel had a bard new cateraman that burned at the dock it was plugged in on charge and lithium batteries caught fire. This happened about a year ago. The boat was a few weeks old. Another you tuber that was on a sailboat left his phone plugged in overnight it woke them up at anchor to their boat burning like crazy and had to escape through a hatch. And had jump overboard it burned to the waterline and sank. The only thing different from usual was he left his phone on charge like he normally didn’t do. So lithium is kind of dangerous yes but be aware of the dangers, because many other things can also be dangerous living aboard. Lead acid will not burn but yeah they blow up, and will not provide the power needed to run your boat. The vapors off of them is toxic also so the dangers are pretty close, but the power difference and long life is a major benefit. Make sure they don’t over charge and stay cool, I have read heat is the cause of fires, and over charge and fast discharge causes heat problem and a risk of fire. As long as you manage that well you should not have any problems, many you tube boater channels have went all lithium and solar. In the long run it will save you money, and with enough of battery bank you can use as much electric as you need. One day lithium will replace almost all batteries on the market. The technology has improved very rapidly and much better now than before. People bashing it has it and uses it everyday in cell phones. Some even carry it in their hip pocket. Oh battle born batteries is supposed to be the best (I don’t know), is that what you guys bought ?

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

We did a collaboration with LiTime batteries so they supplied us with everything we needed, so it was a win for us! They're all quite expensive, but these are the newest tech, the LiFePO4 batteries, which aren't like the lithium ion batteries. Supposedly, these are MUCH safer. We will see!

@JohnLee-im7iu 4 месяца назад

Any way Hal can stop smoking? Life is already short enough.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Well I can’t make him stop.

@nufsed 4 месяца назад

Looked to me like the plastic clamps are moving more than the slop in the end pins.. Those plastic clamps are ok new for 3-4 years, after that, they crack and let go.

@patrickjohn2990 4 месяца назад

Lithium is definitely the way to go. It’s cheaper in the long run than lead acid or AGM, because you get about 10 times more charge Cycles, plus you can discharge them close to 100% vs 50% for lead acid. They are very safe if installed correctly. Most people confuse the lithium iron phosphate with the Lithium iron used in scooters and cars etc. which are more prone to fires. You did mentioned adding more batteries at a later date. Please note that it’s not recommended to hook up lithium batteries of different sizes, brands or age. In my opinion 460AH is quite substantial for the needs you listed. I would like to know what type of alternator you have. If you are charging the lithium from the alternator via a dc to dc charger, its recommend to use an externally regulated Alternator where you can control the alternator output, because 😂lithium batteries are “power hungry “ and can over work an alternator. A work around is to charge your start battery (assuming it’s AGM or lead acid) from the alternator and use the DC to DC charger to charge the lithium. Be safe guys.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thanks!!! I will show this comment to Hal. We JUST got a new alternator. The old one was having trouble, and we suspected that basically since buying it but we are now underway and it’s confirmed. We got a new alternator on the Yanmar and it was the one recommended from Yanmar corporate.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

I’ve read your comment to Hal and I’m going to tell you what he’s saying. I understand the system but he knows the setup and what he installed better- Hal says: That’s what we are doing- we have an 80 Amp alternator and rigged to charge the starting battery, and the dc to dc charger charges from the starting battery. We’ve jumped the charger to bring the charge from 60 amps to 30 amps. We got the 60amp dc to dc charger in hopes that we could upgrade to a high output alternator later this year.

@jimmydaniel8752 3 месяца назад

The plastic was clearly moving the bar was barely moving

@TheMikesylv 4 месяца назад

Can you take your teak deck off plane it down then use structural adhesive to attach it to a substrate that doesn’t rot then use the same method to attach to the deck (no screws through fiberglass)?

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

We’ve been considering doing that. It may not be worth it with the current teak because it is thinner, as it’s aged, but it’s not as thin as one might think, and it hasn’t been overly abused over the years either so maybe! We’re still deciding what we want to do about that.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

I will say this- if we can’t reuse this teak, I very well may sail this boat to wherever in the world I can get a good deal on a teak deck. Hahah I prefer it.

@bearitraeb 4 месяца назад

9:45 posh slang

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

I really think it started as an Aussie thing. I've said it for many many years without thinking (but I've lived overseas a LOT), but I do remember being in Australia and everyTHING was "y" or "ies" at the end. Sunnies, boardies, wellies.... drove me nuts!!! even though I do say all of those things. I guess it accidentally got drilled in after years of living out of country, without me knowing it! Dangit!

@bearitraeb 4 месяца назад

16:26 my late husband was a dog potty training whisperer. And what cha do is poke their dingleberry dispenser and then make them sit(squat). If they ever have an accident, you take it to where they need to go and basically repeat said process (after showing them it goes here) He never had to repeat the process. None of them ever went in the house. 🤷🏼‍♀️ worth a try cause as you said they are smarter than the average bear

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Hahaha dingleberry dispenser. Love that! Hahaha yeah I think I’m going to collect some somethings and plop them on there a little bit. Hahah

@cartertanya1258 4 месяца назад

Sorry ,but are you really sure there safer . Battery bank is supposed to be vented to outside boat ,as mine is according to lloyds . Off gasing is usually course by bad management. You can rejuvenate standard lead acid . Up to you . Major thing . Keep fire blanket next to lithium. If it gets hot , wrap it in blacket and throw overboard.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

These aren’t the traditional lithium batteries, they’re the LiFePO4, which are FAR safer than other types of lithium batteries, so yes. They are safer. Also, they don’t need to be outside the boat. That would be a disaster and there’s nowhere outside the boat to install a battery bank anyway. The previous battery bank was totally fried and was off-gassing, but we just bought the boat, so this wasn’t necessarily anything we did. The batteries looked old and weren’t marked with dates or anything.

@cartertanya1258 4 месяца назад

Hi , I'm aware these are p04 batteries and I agree that they are safer than EV batteries. Just be mindfully that they are never taken down to 00 v as is a common issue on board boats un attended . This erases BMS memory . Then if you shunt change as stated by manufacturer the BMS has no guide to manage batteries, this can course issues . The caution I was referring to was OK to store below decks ,but store them being able to get out and wrap to overboard if they get hot . I'm a marine engine engineer of 38 yrs . Hope this is of use to you

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Thank you for that!

@paulrees2152 4 месяца назад

you said you were inverting but i don't think so. unless you are running 120v appliances off your battery bank you are not inverting. you are just operating on 12v for your 12 volt lights etc.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

We have a 5000w inverter in our lazarette and in one of the first scenes of the video, Hal is explaining how to connect the system to that inverter via the “remote control display”. We run everything off our battery.

@paulrees2152 4 месяца назад

@@TheSirensLog got it so you must have been running 120 volt lighting or perhaps a 120 TV or music system otherwise just running 12 volt lighting does not opearate off an inverter. Love your adventure can't wait to see you at sea!

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

@@paulrees2152 Are you just trying to say that we don’t have an inverter?

@paulrees2152 4 месяца назад

@@TheSirensLog not at all you do have one and you need an inverter, but not to run 12v items. An inverter converts 12 volt power to 120 volt power, when needed. 12 volt lighting and marine electronics run straight 12 volt power from your battery bank. That's all.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

@@paulrees2152 Ahh yes. Most of our things are 12v, but we still run some 120 like the internet and whatnot.

@cameronurquhart1515 4 месяца назад

We found that putting some of his pee or another dogs pee on the mat would help him mark his territory

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

That’s my next move! Hahah I have a little turd ready to go. lol 😂

@michelbedos9371 4 месяца назад

How is the little four-legged child doing? Edit out comments and moments you do not want to have included in the final cut. You couldn't get him a bigger pee-pad? You will need to wash it several times a day. Get your husband/boyfriend to pee on it once so he gets the idea.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

They scammed on the size when I ordered it and included the walls of it as part of the total dimensions so it should have been at least a little bigger.

@erichschinzel6486 3 месяца назад

Mozart?

@mystealthlife6991 4 месяца назад

Hal smokes?

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

yeaaaaaahhhhhh..... He's still smoking. He's trying to quit again!

@evinwhiteson4902 4 месяца назад

I am no expert. 30 years cruising gives me insights,But I am convinced lead acid off gassing or not are the safest battery's on earth. Now if you have no ventilation then off gassing is not something you want. You can make a deadly gas. But lithium could burn you right down to the bottom as a lithium fire is not extinguishable. So there's trade offs. I like lithium but not the costs and not the fire hazards. And then there's the time when equalization from the bms causes total shut down. No power. Carry a starting battery.

@matthewwelch9084 4 месяца назад

LiFePo4 is a different chemistry than what is used in EV’s and has a much higher thermal runaway. Also you can 100% use a battery while it is balancing.

@evinwhiteson4902 4 месяца назад

I got info on lithium from a few source. I kicked it around the past 3 years. If you are not well schooled in lithium instal you can really mess things up. The things I mentioned are fact. However a properly installed lithium set up with quality components would be worth the risk for the rewards if I had 10k but I only had 1k so went with t105 again as I have for the past 30 years. Plug n play.

@matthewwelch9084 4 месяца назад

You are right, there are definitely much more considerations to take in than just dropping in a LiFePo and calling it done. I made the switch a few years ago (with all the associated) modifications and personally I would never go back to lead acid for a house bank. But to each their own on their own vessels and what they are comfortable with.

@bearitraeb 4 месяца назад

There’re dangers everywhere on this planet. Whatchu’ gonna do, hide? Death will find all of us no matter where we hide LIVE LAUGH LOVE ☮️

@adriansedillo3426 2 месяца назад

Supposedly the economy is going to crash .Boats and motor homes are going to be very cheap as well as dingys and everything else.Keep you'r eyes open guys.

@SMM-Mystery 4 месяца назад

Can you provide the costs and brands, along with a rough diagram of the setup? It would really help, as I am about to undergo the same process soon. Thanks, and love the videos!

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

We did a collab with LiTime batteries, so they supplied us with everything! I believe prices may be on their website, and I've been asking Hal to draw me a diagram so that I understand the way everything is wired and I still don't have that diagram! hahahah

@rabsmcsporrin9572 4 месяца назад

I would never use lithium batteries in a boat

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Why not

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

Also note that they’re LiFePO4.

@evinwhiteson4902 4 месяца назад

The guys who tried to sell me lithium here to go with the 1400 watts solar I bought from them recently in Thailand a aussy company. Say you really need a high output alternator with a external regulater with lithium settings. A battery to battery charger and the lithium run through a starting battery of lead acid thats charged first before lithium charges. To prevent alternator destruction and a possible lithium black out. Caused from over heating or other bms issues. I found all this expensive and way too many moving parts for my liking.lthe solar was cheap. 700.00 bucks for panels and 600.00 for regulators. I am into lithium I just don't have the money to do it right. I have 900 amps of lead acid. Costs me 1,100.00 every 4 or 5 years. The lithium would be 10k as quoted for 900 amps lithium not installed just the bits and pieces. Even though I already have a high output alternator

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 4 месяца назад

If your worried about Li theres LiPhosphate... If you want to go safer still and serviceable theres Blade cells long and short.. and very soon There will be Na ion.. which are next level safe and cheaper .. though heavier at the moment and they are ideal in hot and freezing cold climates. They can also handle C rates that would melt most Lithium cells.

@TheSirensLog 4 месяца назад

900amps lithium is twice as much as 900amps lead acid, though, so you don’t need nearly that much! With the LiFePO4 batteries you use 90% of the battery, and you don’t with lead acid. So, it won’t cost you nearly as much as you’re thinking. The one battery we have at 460Ah is a $1500. Battery, and it’s the equivalent of 4 lead acid batteries and will last a hell of a lot longer. If we add another we will have double that, obviously, in a tight space.