Your probably wondering why I have so much likes, I edited the comments so they don’t make sense The comment was: “RU-vid: *you shall watch why school buses don’t have seatbelts* Me: *ok*
I was buying an old school bus once and the guy selling it pointed out "Scool busses are the safest vehicles on the road for one simple reason. The average car carries 1 to 4 potential lawsuits, the average school bus carries 50"
i love how everyone in the comments are like "my bus HAS seatbelts, ive never seen one WITHOUT one" and im just here like "my bus DOESNT have seatbelts, ive never seen one WITH one"
@@decoso i think its a New law that went into effect in 2018 or 2019 that Made ALL School bus manufacturers, Like International's bus division, the IC Series, Other brands, Blue Bird, Etc... include Seat belts in EVERY bus Made after a certain date. The School district im in also orders ALL new ICs with the 8.8l Gasoline engine. i live in a very hilly place. we do min 35 max 50 up the steepest hill. Edit: In Texas
aaron borglum bro some kid moved my Nate and recorded himself flipping the back of the bus off because my bus also picks up high schoolers and there on the back and lmao he put it on his snap chat story
1:07 Yes. Because you always get flung forward in a crash One time I got flung to a seat right next to me during a turn. You dont even need to crash for someone to get hurt on a bus.
Funny thing is that nobody has ever asked me, a 10 year school bus driver and bus driver trainer, why or what I thought about them. Put simply, the entire bus is a safety feature. There are NO sharp edges inside the passenger compartment. Those poles, rails and grab handles that were on the corners of the seats are gone. The seats themselves are 6-10 inches higher then those we remember. And about 2-4 inches thicker with padding. Think egg cartons, traveling hundreds of miles with no breakage and you are on the right path. Now, seatbelted children on a bus that just rolls onto its side, the children will be 6-8 feet in the air on the "up" side. If I am uninjured, I will have to reach up 3-6 feet, standing on the ground side seat edge, 20-40 times. If I am unable to help them at all they will have to release and fall that far. If the bus doesn't have seat belts the majority will fall AS THE BUS is leaning over the be on its side. If the bus ends up on its roof EVERY child will be upside down hanging approximately 5-6 feet from the roof. All will have to release a belt that is under tension and fall head first straight down. As for the question about a train hitting the bus, please understand the a bus weighs about 30,000 lbs and a train weighs about 30,000 tons. You get hit in the side it really isn't going to matter seatbelted or not. That is why there are exact procedures for crossing railroad tracks and belts don't figure into it. As to why I have a seatbelt and the kids don't is that what is in front of me IS NOT PADDED. I have to try and be as able as possible to try and help the kids as quickly as possible. I am just a bus driver. No degrees but I am literally figuring to suppress my self-preservation instincts to help your kids in an emergency. Time may be in VERY short supply when we have to leave and unbuckling or cutting 50% of anywhere from 30-70 kids is just not a little concern.
Nice try but it's about the money. It's always been about the money. It's an extra 8 to 15k to put belts on a new bus and seating capacity is reduced. Cost-benefit analysis has determined the money is more valuable than the children. That's the bottom line.
@@maxoblivion Well mrbozo, please do enthrall us all with the education or real life experiences that you feel enable yourself to discount my 10 yrs+ of training, real-life experience and seeing actual bases from then to now. Got a question for you. Why do school busses have those 3 black stripes down both sides. Want to make a snarky remark about those also. Get out of moms cellar and go learn something other than what you read on r/antiwork.
"Safely numb into the seat in front" bruh it depends on if your banging your head into the soft part or not. Even that hurts like heck. But better then a window. Still he makes it seem like he thinks it's like landing into a pillow
Yeah this is bullshit. I remember getting my head beat into the metal seat casing and the metal ridges of those windows. In fact I stopped riding that bus and just hid in a ditch and didn't go to school for a long time. Smart enough to pretect my skull and dint need no more skcool.
As a bus driver, I wouldnt say money is the contributing factor. By far it's the fact that in an emergency, I don't have time to unbuckle all the kids belt, or if I'm dead and children are stuck, they cannot exit the bus and might get trapped. During an emergency drill it takes just about a minute to evac through the rear door. That would be much longer if every kid had to unbuckle. Just my two cents
Ex-Driver here. Company I worked for showed us why there were no seatbelts, set a bus on fire and in 3 minutes the bus was fully engulfed in flames & image ending up in a lake......I shiver just thinking about it ✌🗺
Most buses have seatbelts in my district or at least in Florida. The only times I've rode on a seatbelt-less bus was when we were going on field trips, I'm pretty sure.
@DayNNightOG 4 how are you gonna tell someone that lives in Texas no they don't when clearly if you live there (I do too) and see some schoolbusses with seatbelts, it means some have seatbelts. I've also seen some of the newer busses with seatbelts.
@DayNNightOG 4 Are you hearing yourself? Your goddamn hippocrite ass just proved my point that SOME DO, I never said all of them did. And wow you really looked up that just to post it in yt comments, that is sad. Get a life.
In Florida, seat belts were required from 2004 to current. If a District has buses prior to '04 seat belts are not required. Lastly, seatbelts only work when they are used. Imagine a bus load of kids. .
Texas only requires a seat belt on the special needs buses. Not on registration eds. I drive one of these 84 passenger bad boys. People, if that bus catches on fire, you DON'T WANT YOUR STUDENT STRAPPED INTO A SEAT. In a panic, students lose their minds and I only have 2 MINUTES to get your precious child off the bus. Even with my seatbelts cutter, I can't cut 58 high schoolers (losing their minds) in 2 minutes. I demand respect and first time obedience from my students and they know why. I'm one of those cool drivers that the students love and respect. I never forgot what it was like to be there age. They understand that if there's an emergency that they don't have the life experience to know what to do, and if they will just refer to what I'm telling them, I promise I will keep them as safe as possible. We had a lockdown situation one day and I was not going to unload my bus into the school I pulled ahead and away from the building and one of my high school young man was extremely upset stating several times I don't want to get shot I don't want to die. I had to calm him down and I turned to the students and I said in an emergency you must listen to me and do what I say so that everybody doesn't panic like this then I turned to the student and told him nobody dies on my bus today if anyone shoots I will take the bullet. He said what if there's more than one, I said I will take every bullet they fire before I let them shoot you. y'all it's not about how expensive those buses are, it's that there just aren't enough people who want to do this job. It's a calling for those of us who love young people. If your child is a student on my bus, rest assured I will not let anything happen to your child. I understand how important this job is, and I love it.
We should all take school buses seriously and not for granted. The very people going around the bus would be some of the first to start complaining about not enough buses or the lack of safety. You can't have it both ways. I drive a bus and get passed several times a week because everyone is in a hurry and don't want to be caught in traffic behind the bus in the morning and afternoon.
I used to drive school bus, and I loved it! The kids loved me and we had mutual respect. The ride to and from school each day is the most dangerous part of a child's day. Yet, driver's must deal with 2-3 times the students, in less than 1/2 the floor space, with their backs to them the whole time AND pay attention to the road and all the driving conditions at the same time. And for this wonderfully challenging job the pay is horrifically low. Like even teachers would blanch at the salary, and we all know how underpaid teachers are. Yeah, it really comes down to $$, and that is pathetic when you consider it is our future....
At my old highscool, the newest models of busses front 2 seats in both rows had fold out car seats for ellemwntary/small middle school kids. But the rest of the seats have no belts. The rest of the older bus models have none at all. But I'd rather not have to worry about unbuckling if my bus wrecks/bursts in flames. I've never been in a serious wreck myself, but let's just says we never had the best drivers. Ive been on busses that got stuck in a ditch, backed into a tree, tried to make a sharp turn around a pickup work truck parked on the side of a narrow road scraping against said vehicle untill getting stuck, and for a while we got stuck with an older bus that constantly smelled like something was burning. Also where I live, my highschool and the middle school shared busses morning and afternoon,three to every seat and people squished in the walkway on bad days.
While cost is a factor for sure, one thing that the anti-seat belt side of the argument neglects is that compartmentalization only protects in rear or head on collisions, but does nothing in the event of a rollover or side impact. I'm from Canada and most of our evidence for anti-seat belt legislation is from a now debunked crash test safety video produced in 1984 by Transport Canada: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcnSpQdeG3M.html
I agree with what your saying but to be realistic maybe one in a billion school bus trips result in a roll over or hard side impact in the US so I doubt they care enough to even check into it
me3333 Google it. I’ve read 17,000 kids per year are injured in ALL school bus accidents (which would include roll overs.) But you stick with one in a billion number if that’s how smart you want to appear.
@@ckom0007 Well when you grow up maybe you will become smart enough to spot the difference between "ALL school bus accidents" and roll over/ hard side impacts. I thought I made it clear that I was not talking about "ALL school bus accidents" by stating roll over/ hard side impacts but apparently you need a picture colored or something unless you're just trolling in which case if you are, troll on then.
Some bus drivers in our district say they'd quit if seat belts were installed as they do no want to be held responsible for making sure the kids have them on and keep them on. We have plenty enough to keep under control with a bus full of kids without further complicating matters. I'm not among those who would throw in the towel if seat belts were installed but that is the opinion of some. Another problem is, with a large fleet of buses, you don't replace all of them at once. So who gets the new bus with seat belts while others continue to ride without belts? It could take years to phase them in with any large school district.
Some kids would use the belts as a weapon against another child. Think about the belt with the metal end on it being whipped at the child next to them in the face. Oh the possibilities are endless.
I remember when my school was so overcrowded on the busses that we (students) had to go to the superintendent and tell him that we needed more busses, he just said that we could put 3 people in a seat, high schoolers don’t just have a school bag, some have sports equipment instruments and are sometimes bigger than the adults that work at the school, so we told the people on the school board to sit three to a seat and they did, we ended up getting a few more busses after that
Love how texas does not even have any seatbelts Edit: we can’t rlly have seatbelts bc we have up to 5 kids in a seat and a little over 75 kids.... My 4 year old bro sat in the very back Monday bc we missed the bus
My old school has seatbelts on there buses because last year a bus slipped off the road and flipped into a ditch This was in Montana and luckily no one but the driver was on the bus so there was a less chance of injury Also the driver, thankfully was okay because they had a seatbelt
I recently went on a field trip with my class and we rode a seatbelt bus, but there are so many kids at our school we had to fit 4 to a seat so kids were uncomfortably seating on the buckles not even wearing the seatbelt
I'm from Florida, and yes, we have seatbelts, but we are not required to wear them. Edit: The belts are really crappy, and because of the way they're built, you can fling them behind your seat and clonk someone in the head/face.
That's not so much the case here in the UK. BY UK law all School buses are meant to have seatbelts in case the vehicle rolls over or stops quite suddenly.
The cops pull you over sometimes when you don’t have your seatbelt on but the bus takes you and there’s like over 20 kids on it and no one has a seatbelt and you don’t get in trouble
the school buses in my county for the younger kids have seatbelts in the front for the really little kids there's a cover that you take off and pull a booster seat-type thing down and put a seatbelt on the kid
When I still did school ( I do online school now) I had to sit on the floor in the back of the bus with four other students. There were no seats in the back.
