We FINALLY Learn What Happened To ANDUIN! Why He REALLY Vanished! 

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I hope Illidan makes an appearance and interacts with anduin. This would make for a really good story. Anduin Understanding further of Illidan rejection of the light.

Anduin clearly has PTSD, with very good reason. I am a military veteran who served in the Gulf and Iraq. I have PTSD. You never get rid of it. The best that therapy can do is teach you coping mechanisms. Under real circumstances PTSD very common among the military, and emergency services, but even if you look at Anduin as just a game character, making him into a fighter with PTSD is all the more understandable, because fighting is mostly all he's done in recent times, except for studying how to use the light. His fall from grace, albeit not of his own doing, is also actually far more understandable. Azeroth is constantly under threat, he would respond to that by tick tocking out of his box in the corner cocked, locked and ready to rock.

Anduin should go Monk. He in his time on Pandaria learn a little plus maybe is time for him to bolstering his own spirit :)

So you could say... Bury the light?

he had the Light until Sylvanas used the sword to control him. She blocked the Light from him. He knew what he was doing - clearly indicated when champions fight him in raid. He just could not stop due to the control he was under. He attacked the Archon under that control - knowing full well what he is doing. Most likely he was used to torture others or kill. I don't think, he denied the Light but thinks he is not good enough to wield it. We will see him regaining the Light somewhere during next expac.

The light is actually evil theory that everyone is obsessed with has to be one of the uncreative and boring plot points that could come to WoW.

I just want Anduin to abandon the light and become a Warrior like his father!

As a warlock player, i was indeed thinking about how warlocks use fel without being enslaved to it

No. No it's not. When Sylvannas said "This world is a prison", she was referring to the unfairness of the afterlife that the Jailor conveniently portrayed to be against her. It has NOTHING to do with the cosmic forces.

1:06 hopefully Illidan comes back and claps Turalyon.

So anduin went from useless to a priest to a paladin to a death knight?(enslaved by jailor with death powers) to useless again, hes come a full circle

"The light has betrayed me!" - Shadowreaper Anduin

in the artwork anduin is also 90% in shade with just a small glimmer of light across his face/knee. Artisticaly this is also probably relevent this topic. i think a fall to shadow may be in the future and may actually be intresting

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20

Anduin is that new employee who's been there for a week and he's already acting as if he's been working for the past 2 lives.

Why does Aduin look like The Arrow? "You have failed Azeroth! "

The concept of love can be a very powerful tool to control someone, showing that you'll always be there for them, and no one else really can If Anduin leans more towards the Warrior lifestyle, like his father, I wouldn't be surprised

Hear me out...If azeroth is the last titan maybe she needs a protector and that will end up being anduen and he will weild a portion of her power that is bestowed to him thusly uniteing ALL of azeroth against the void/light

Another thing to keep in mind, is that Anduin was probably informed on what happened when Illidan met (and then killed) that Naaru and understood that there was no difference between what the Naaru wanted to do to Illidan and what the Jailer had done to him.

I hope when the cosmological war happen we will be able to choose between all the entities, life, death, chaos, order, light, void

Do not confuse Light with Order. Titans are agents of Order. If they become evil, it does not necessarily imply Light.

Another speculation for proving Light is evil, seriously there is no prove in lore or datamined till now that anduin think light is using him. The fact is light is not coming to him because he doesn't trust himself and lost his conviction 😅

Another example similar to the warlock using fel magic and demons but not being manipulated by it, is the demon hunter, I'm surprised you didn't used that, since demon hunter are a lot more infused with the fel magic and demonic powers than the warlock.

I always thought a crazy plot twist would be if Turalyon is a time traveller and is future Anduin

This whole concept of the Light being evil is so boring, as well as dismissive of the old lore. As expected of Blizzard to fuck up something good they had in the past just for shock value. “Everything you thought you knew is a lie!”. It only works if you do it once. But if you do it every single expansion it gets old real fast.

I absolutely hate this idea that the Light is now somehow bad.

Great vid. I was thinking the same about how warlocks have always used the fel without falling to it. Then i started thinking in SOD, one of your big runes as a paladin you have to go to the warlocks for help. Maybe thats just the start of the Paladins learning from the Warlocks

No, this isn't it at all. Anduin left to be on his own because he'd lost faith in himself after The Jailer so easily violated his mind. He was forced to watch himself do horrible things and even forced to enjoy it. He's still reeling from that experience and questioning his mind. He may even feel he's protecting the rest of us from himself because he no longer can differentiate between The Jailer's will and his own. Anduin and his connection to the Light broke because he lost hope, and hope is the very source of the Light's power. It grows within beings who have faith and purpose. Those who put their personal desires aside to become a beacon of salvation for others. There's nothing malevolent or insidious about it. When that hope is lost, so too is the connection. Light is the counterpart of shadow, which is why we've seen that those who intermingle their faith with anger and wrath begin turning to shadow. This is where you see the Red Light of the Scarlet Crusade and the Blood Knight Paladins of the Blood Elves. They're somewhere in between. It's also hinted that demonic power is the middle ground, as we've seen Scarlet Onslaughts priests turn into demons from their own hatred transmuting them. No doubt the final stages of a corrupted spirit. In Anduin's case, his light has simply gone silent because he himself is lost and has no sense of purpose. Even the Scarlet Crusaders and Blood Elves have conviction, which drives their Light forward, albeit on the edge of darkness. The Light is not some tyrannical force, or wolf in sheep's clothing in the cosmological balance. It has always been a source of life, love, and compassion in WoW lore. Possessed only by the purest and most selfless of heart. I highly doubt the Light will be depicted as some ridiculous evil mind control force, but if Blizzard is indeed attempting to vilify it in such a way, then chances are it's just some cynical woke writer trying to deconstruct it like they do everything else. I wouldn't put it past them to use WoW as a vehicle to take jabs at Christianity, which inspired the concepts of the Light in the first place. To them, I say, stay out Warcraft lore if you can't respect it. I feel Anduin will find his hope again, and perhaps even Illidan will be saved one day as well. Much like how Tyrande reforged her faith in Elune, it's a story of faith being tested. It is symbolic of the dark times everyone faces in their life's journey and the path back from the brink.

"light bad" xD...can we do life bad next and the emerald dream xD

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To be honest its been hinted for such a long time that the light could be a force of evil, also the rule of "all magic corrupts and twists its user" has been played down in wows history for the light unlike other magics despite the signs being there. Scarlet crusade have been around since classic and plenty of other examples in wow history show the light as making its users very narrow vision and zealous in there conviction to a point of being near blinded by it. I'm happy to see blizzard finally take this step with the light though as its always been there as a possibility, I personally believe the light has its own corruption on the users mind in how they think the more they embrace it.

If people pay close attention to The War Within cinematic when Anduin confronts and points Shalamayne at Thrall, there is also no visible orb of Light there as well. It is VERY brief and quick but if it were there you would expect the orb to be visible as he twists the sword and points it at Thrall. It is not! This is consistent with The War Within artwork. Details like this are kinda cool!

dont think evil really factors in. the power tree thats been introduced that holds all the different elements; there are simply those apart of each cosmological power that are selfish and only want to promote their own ways. and then there are others that support life and add to the balance. whether they are evil or not is probably a secondary notion based on perspective

I mean it's not hard. He was literally tortured in hell.

Andiun and (Wiafu) Jaina are my favorite characters

I like this development. The idea of Anduin being contrite for actions taken under duress never made much sense.

its like they cant ruin their game enough, this going into other realms of governing forces that govern forces that player wield, I cant believe they havent fired their creative department yet.

oh for the love of he left cause he was TRAMATIZED by zovaal controlling him like a puppet they already explained it at the end of shadowlands

What I am really confused about is the fact that some Blood Elves like Lady Liadrin are so fixed on the Light even though their history would teach them to do otherwise. Suramar is the Birthplace of the Sisterhood of Elune and the first place to abandon this faith. Blood Elves are descendants from the Highborne that also declared Elune to be false Goddess and reject that religion completely. Velen during the marriage of Malfurion and Tyrande compared the Church of Holy Light and Faith of Elune to be exrtemely similar. He even went as far as to give hypothesis that Elune herself might a Naaru, much to Tyrande's dismay. So if the Highborne that created Quel'thalas abandonned the Faith of Elune, then why the hell there are some Blood Elves that are so eager to follow the Light if both religions are so similar. Lady Liadrin should be a red flag to any Blood Elf that can connect the dots, and make sure she doesn't turn into the second Tyrande. There's also the case of the Nightborne of whom many still live and remember the rise and fall of the Sisterhood of Elune in Suramar. They should be the first to point out that Blood Elves are making the mistake and pretty much repeating the mistake their ancestors tried so hard to correct. Church of the Holy Light came to be after Amani Wars when Five Naaru showed themselves in a dream vision to multiple would be priests, teaching them tenets of how to wield the Light. Those priests would then form the Religious Organization that we know today. I wonder how that thing did extend to Elves of Quel'thalas.

Well, the Light proved to be exceedingly useless against the Domination magic, and didn't save him. I mean, it didn't save his dad twice either

Maan am I glad my pally is and alwas was a blood elf. Their use of the Light always used a more peagmatic approach. Even now they draw their powers from the sunwell which is not comparable IMHO to the lightforging shenanigans of Turalyon / Xe'ra.

Very interesting. So what is Anduin now without the light, just a good warrior/fighter or does he have any superpowers?

The Gem on his sword during the cinematic was red and not glowing..... When Varian had it at his height, it would glow orange; IMO that meant balance between Rage and "Light"... which is why Anduin's always glowed yellow and now it is red

I've been saying for years now that Turalyon is not a good guy. Whoever is residing in that husk is not the man that left 10k years ago. We're going to have to fight to regain the throne. Velen has probably stayed more true to "good" than any of the light workers, in that he has no desire to convert the masses, but the rest of them are sus as hell. Calia was the sister of an easily swayed man. I guess gullibility runs in the royal lines. I am betting that this is an epic fight that only daddy Illidan can help us with. After all, he's the only one who has killed a Naruu, isn't that right?

Not all Warlocks are Fell Oriented. The Oldest of the Warlocks are Shadow/Void Locks. The Fell versions of Warlocks are actually a much newer thing.

Anduin is a warrior now

The light has always had different factions. Its not "oh the light is bad now" its that there are factions that are powerful, maybe even the most powerful now, that are light aligned and fanatics. I think the shift is that the light itself is rather neutral as are the other cosmic powers.

I think it might be cool if Anduin enlisted the aid of Sylvannas to fight the light or whatever the main bad guy is as a way to rehabilitate her some.

Oh I see now. Its the light. The light is overbearing.

One thing this helped me correlate, i feel like the hints of the story are now effectively showing hidden parallel's with the "Main" cast. "Who Scard' Who" type of thing.....an THAT forces' response to the others.......the threads laid long ago. a lil tug......i do not find it at all surprising Slyvanas was scard' by a weapon of LIGHT gifted to a former ally an i do not think it is an accident how an where a RED scar on a raised undead (a Paralleled to how be used an scarred.......Same as AZEROTH ;) we are pawns in her REVENGE on ALL cosmic forces ! The Tree that just grew....LIFE from DEATH......Death had its' own plan.....they both SAW the FULL board. I dig how they do what they do regardless of people opinions ...the paints the cosmos define make this MYTH of WARCRAFT.

he now going to be a warrior. like father, like son.

Anduin needs to spend time woth the blood elves and learn the wisdom of bending the light to your will.

I think you forgot that many of Anduins bones were remade from the Light. After Garrosh crushed his body with the bell in Pandaria.

I think it is part because the Domination magic the Jailer used on him is so intense and all consuming that he felt like he enjoyed doing all those horrors the Jailer made him do. Probably feels he isn;t worthy or something like that.

I really do believe people give Anduin way!!! To much shit he has massive ptsd His life can only be one of pain and suffering

I wouldn't say, lorewise, you need to worship the light to use holy spells - priest was a widely available class. Or am I wrong?

It will be interesting if they also make the Light not being monolithic

Really hope that Turalyon is not a villain.

Please, give Anduin mana and Light will return. :D He's just OOm :D (out of mana / mind) :D

calia is ganna get MCed at some point and be forced by the light to be bad hopefully for more than just a boss fight an maybe actually have lore for multiple xpacs before shes slain or fixed

“The crown of light will bring only Darkness”

Making "The Light" some s ort of evil force is just a really dumb, boring and even cliche idea. what we need is anduin to embrace his role as a warrior. and a champion of the light. and become a bad ass fighter and leader like his father.

I've always like Anduin and I'm horde lol

Why does Anduin suddenly look like TV's Green Arrow?

In one of the books it talks about void or shadow energy emanating from Anduin. I’m curious if he will turn to more of a shadow priest? I don’t think he will be useless. I think the source of any powers he has will change.

I mean.. think about the quote from Ilghynoth.. " Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below." I know this probably applies to the Sunwell. But this also technicly works with the light as a wholle. As its the opossite of the Void... But. They are the same, in the end. The Naaru themselves. They go between light and void. But they are seen as the creatures of the Light side. So.. How does that work. Unless. The truth is that he found out that the more he uses the light.. The bigger his downfall is. He uses the light, but grows his own darkness. As can be seen with how he reacts to when Wrathion comes to tell him about the old gods..About Nzoth. He sees vissions... Nightmare version of Stormwind. Because the stronger his light. The easier he can be controlled by the void. It wasnt just that he was forced to do things against his will. Anduin is stronger than that. He still fought against the Jailor. When he was controlled. But he also saw how even Arthas. That was also devoted to the light, as a Paladin. Could fall to darkness.

Well the main characters arrow damn he be even in fantasy realms

Is that why The Green Arrow is now Anduin?

Anduin is going to class change to warrior like his dad.

I love this take :D

So what you're saying is that the Blood Knights were right when they were chaining up Naaru and just taking the power as their own

first the writers need to fix the shadowlands and show that the primeus and all the others are also robots. next they need to show that there are thousands of millions of other shadowlands with their own primus and others that are all part of the universe.

Sigh. Blizzard continuing to make its lore the most convoluted bs imaginable.

Tired of the Light = bad narrative.

What if the light & the void are not explicitly good or evil but natural forces of the cosmos, and the Naaru & Void Lords are exacting there will over it for there own selfish needs and purposes.

Just like real life, people doing evil in the name of their religion.

Anduin can be played by the green arrow actor

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look at wow pulling a shadowbringers 5 years after shadowbringers

Anduin is such a deva but I like him

"the young king was made a pawn." Wasn't that a whisper from il'gnoth?

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Anduin is hiding from the throne, not Turtle boy lol

Anduin coping with events of Shadowlands for years is annoying. Saurfang committed heinous crimes when orcs were corrupted like exterminating draenei and making a "path of glory" from their bones and yet he helped other orcs overcome atrocities they had committed under the demon influence

finally wow on android / tablet devices mhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It's not a crazy concept at all. Many things in this world that you either assume or are brought up to believe are not actually benign at all. And it's an upsetting life lesson. How upsetting would it be to discover that the one source of hope in your life turned out to be evil. It's a shattering crisis for a believer like Anduin. Of course, I don't think most gamers want to come to terms with such a crippling life lesson that was delivered to them by a bunch of woke soy boys at Activision/Blizzards. It's kind of just more fun to believe you got it figured out and you're a hero. These games are an escape after all. But I actually think this is a fine lesson to watch Anduin struggle with, depending on how they go about it. But I'm not sure I trust those far left soy-boys to do it right. After all, they're the sort that have fallen into exactly the same trap in principle. Their church is just on the other side of the aisle.

I thought the naarus turn into some kind void being when they die so is the light truly both

I really want them to retcon the whole Yrel thing.

good time to use the old god power to gether anduin as the queen and king of the old gods !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy is in 10.2.5??

Hi, I am hopeful that he is able to find some kind of love perhaps with Sylvanas. Since they share something in common. However they are complementary opposites.

He should no longer be a paladin/priest and become Green Arrow... i mean, he already looks like Stephen Amell.

thank you man

trall is going to train the him i the ways of shamaniseam

I’ve always worshipped the elements over the other cosmic entities they are the ones bashing together shaping the earth as it needs fit and I speculate there may be 2 other elemental lords that we don’t know about when it comes to decay and spirit

so the cosmic forces and azeroth are like the cosmic forces of the elder scrolls and nirn :U

He should forgo being a priest and become a Tinker.

Man the WoW developers really wrecked Anduin smh...looks like a meth addict.