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We Made A Modular Espresso Machine 

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In this video, we introduce the Epoch manual espresso machine, and share some of our design and manufacturing process.
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@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi everyone, thanks for checking out our video! If you have any questions about the espresso machine, let us know in the comments below.
@aarondavidson6409
@aarondavidson6409 Год назад
There should be an option to pin this to the top of the comment feed :) Amazing work, looking forward to hearing more!
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 Год назад
Where are based/from Chronova?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Jane, we’re based in Hampshire, England.
@smartwatchonpluto
@smartwatchonpluto Год назад
You could easily make a activated charcoal water filter from this.
@nightowl9792
@nightowl9792 Год назад
I am appalled to see that you are charging £750 for one of these units, not even assembled, or with a base or handle! That’s almost double the price of the aram and the robot, which are almost identical to your designs… plus, that’s the kickstarter price, so there isn’t even any guarantee that you’ll send the products!😢 how can you possibly justify such an outrageous price?
@MrCrazyChemist
@MrCrazyChemist Год назад
Perhaps you could send one to James Hoffman, maybe he'll review it and give you lots of exposure.
@kajetanjawr995
@kajetanjawr995 Год назад
thought the same thing xd
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
We will reach out to him and see if he’s interested. Thanks for the suggestion!
@nathanfauvette2151
@nathanfauvette2151 Год назад
There's little to no chance he will, he doesn't do Kickstarter projects as far as I know, Lance Hedrick might though.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness Год назад
@@nathanfauvette2151 He's reviewed or participated in a few.
@felicityfoo6240
@felicityfoo6240 Год назад
@@weatheranddarkness I believe the kickstarter campaigns he has reviewed are mostly posted years/months after the product has been released. If not mistaken, he reviews product variations that the end consumer receives to have an accurate user experience
@TheBookDoctor
@TheBookDoctor Год назад
Genius pressure gauge. I love really clever designs like that which turn "unwanted" aspects of materials into something useful.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness Год назад
It's the same theory as a torque wrench. Which in a way is the same concept as how a mechanical dial gauge works too, just with parts at different scales.
@gelo1238
@gelo1238 Год назад
I think this was used in early torque wrenches
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 11 месяцев назад
Did I watch a 17 minute ad for a nearly $1000 machine that doesn't even ship to my country the same day I purchased a semiauto espresso maker? Yes I did.
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 7 месяцев назад
The torque wrench design for estimating pressure is really clever. I love it
@canowyrms
@canowyrms Год назад
These look like fantastic products - a lovely intersection of engineering and coffee. I love that end-user DIY is so highly considered and accommodated. I would love to see James Hoffmann give these a go - please see if you can get in touch with him!
@error.418
@error.418 Год назад
Or Lance Hedrick for that matter
@lephtovermeet
@lephtovermeet Год назад
I'm honestly quite impressed with your manual machining ability. Those are some high precision old school techniques and I'm glad people still remember and use them.
@QWEEKEN73
@QWEEKEN73 Год назад
That is so cool! I think the use of fundamental application of physics over a need for gauges is such a neat idea. Interested in seeing where this goes!
@Myrkskog
@Myrkskog Год назад
As a furniture maker and woodturner and someone that has long been tempted with mechanical coffee machines, this is so cool. I look forward to it's release!
@mehrdadhaghighi5140
@mehrdadhaghighi5140 9 месяцев назад
This is just beautiful!!!
@SantiagoLuz
@SantiagoLuz Год назад
All of this is fascinating! Impressive! You solved two main issues of ARAM espresso machine that bothered me the most. Water temperature and pressure reading - this one in such elegant way!!! Awesome!
@jaguirre940
@jaguirre940 6 месяцев назад
looks amazing and really enjoyed the assembly/explanation bit it honestly looks like joy to use and cant wait to replace my faulty delonghi with this!!
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool 2 месяца назад
Amazing, really cool to see all the engineering details, I’d definitely pick one up whenever they become available
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Год назад
The Helix is a eureka moment; it could make this wonderfully accessible to users with limited upper body strength or mobility.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Год назад
Its a copy of Spinspro, a manual helix espresso machine.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Год назад
Actually, there seemed to be even an earlier version. Aram Espresso Maker, it was featured on James Hoffman channel. Its identical to this, even in shape.
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 Год назад
I *LIVE* for well-engineered mechanical devices with elegant simplicity. I wish your team all the success you deserve!
@phpn99
@phpn99 10 минут назад
We now need James Hoffmann to review the designs
@dator36
@dator36 9 месяцев назад
Do you think you'd be able to design a box to disassemble the press and store it easily for travel?
@btudrus
@btudrus Год назад
Is it plastics inside - that white cylinder? If so, do you have a better alternative, maybe?
@BillBroadley
@BillBroadley Год назад
Certainly looks like it, I read the kickstarter page, some forums, and watched the youtube videos and couldn't find anywhere that mentioned the material.
@_brutalista
@_brutalista Месяц назад
Looks very interesting, I would seriously consider this if it's in my price range. I like things that are built with an intent to last.
@KarooD
@KarooD 7 месяцев назад
A very inspiring design - congratulations! A query: Does the metal piston ( and conrod ) result in any significant heat loss; and, if so, would a more efficient material for these components perhaps be preferable? This would minimize the preheat cycles required; especially in a camping/camper environment.
@reeciep
@reeciep Год назад
James Hoffman reviewed the Aram Espresso Maker about 3 years ago which uses a principle similar to the Helix
@ll-tb2tg
@ll-tb2tg 7 месяцев назад
will these be for sale to the general public after the kickstarter? The epoch helix looks like the best manual machine I've ever seen! Wish the algorithm had shown this video to me sooner
@igordemetriusalencar5861
@igordemetriusalencar5861 Год назад
I love my Aram!! I will check it out, I see the inspiration.
@TheBrokenEclipse
@TheBrokenEclipse Год назад
I love the thoughtfulness and the simplicity you have given the design.
@onlooker774
@onlooker774 7 месяцев назад
Looking forward to seeing it mass production...
@user-vl1xv1tu8n
@user-vl1xv1tu8n Год назад
Perfect !
@JoshuaRilliet
@JoshuaRilliet 2 месяца назад
Bonjour, je ne suis pas amateur de café ni de thé mais vos machines je les trouve magnifique, superbement réalisées, un savant mélange de beaux matériaux et de belle technologie certes "simple" mais d'une efficacité redoutable. Bravo et merci pour la vidéo explicative de la construction, l'ancien chaudronnier/mécanicien en tous genres que j'étais, apprécie de regarder ce genre de vidéos bien filmées, bien montées et agréables à visionner.
@koyomifebius3219
@koyomifebius3219 6 месяцев назад
All i can say is impressive!
@champs1076
@champs1076 8 месяцев назад
Wow that's "Aram" 2.0 - impressive 👏Also, I don't bother if it has some eletric component in it, like in the Flair58 for pre-heating the system ☕
@liamosuilleabhain9965
@liamosuilleabhain9965 Год назад
I presume it's already addressed in following versions, but the cuts at 5:59 could cause some fatiguing at the corners. Lovely machine.
@patkirk960
@patkirk960 10 месяцев назад
Bothered me too. Radius at the ends of the thinned section is a must
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 Год назад
Can’t wait for James Hoffman to get his hands on this
@johnmoorefilm
@johnmoorefilm Год назад
Lovely stuff will do
@benjaminabbottscott
@benjaminabbottscott 5 месяцев назад
Gorgeous.
@POTThaesslich
@POTThaesslich Год назад
beautiful design, the pressure gauge works similarly to a torque wrench I have for my bike. Great product, alas I fear it'll be outside my price range.
@J.C...
@J.C... Год назад
Nice bookmatch! 👌
@jalfredprufrock1915
@jalfredprufrock1915 5 месяцев назад
This deserves to be open source
@binder946
@binder946 Год назад
I love the fact you designed a simple durable machine that can last over many generations. I really think it should be bought back the art of forever machines with multi generational life.
@cjfthistle
@cjfthistle Год назад
Please, can you give us an idea of price? Even a ballpark figure? I need to know if I can afford to dream of owning one!
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Christopher, we’ll be offering several tiers ranging from DIY kits priced around £750 up to £3000 for personalised machines. One of the middle price tiers will be a finished machine for around £950.
@michaeldimmitt2188
@michaeldimmitt2188 Год назад
@@chronovaengineering Thank you for a clear answer. It really helps us dreamers!
@elitedeciel
@elitedeciel Год назад
@@chronovaengineering Though I really think this is going to be great product, it's above my current budget. But it's a beautiful design!
@lorimcquinn3966
@lorimcquinn3966 Год назад
@@chronovaengineering The pricing is very close to established market options which have established parts back-up and no PTFE chamber. I'll have to pass although it's interesting to say the least. Good luck.
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Год назад
Beautifully designed and executed. An inspirational pair of espresso machines. Good luck with the Kickstarter campaign 👏👏👍😀
@ultimantninja375
@ultimantninja375 7 месяцев назад
love the idea just wish it was in my price range
@error.418
@error.418 Год назад
Yeah, my very first concern was temperature control. Glad you discussed it, but would certainly like to hear more.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Username, we have some additional temperature tests planned, from which the detailed results will be published on the Kickstarter page.
@error.418
@error.418 Год назад
@@chronovaengineering Super appreciate it, thank you!
@1943vermork
@1943vermork Год назад
I stopped using ROK espresso lever machine because of the lack of pressure gauge and poor temperature stability. I’m now using Flair 58 equipped with the heating element and fitted a temperature probe to make sure I’m pulling a shot at 94C. And even with all that, there is quite a learning curve and tricks to use for the heat consistency. Also, I highly recommend using a puck screen. Lever machine destroy the puck when transferring the water from top to bottom. Else you end up with crazy channeling and a dirty mess to clean. Love the screw system but I can already see it will most likely be too slow when priming the piston (losing heat and time) and then purging after. Manual lever machine are quite time consuming when used regularly.
@cascaderetriever7618
@cascaderetriever7618 2 месяца назад
Beautiful! I want one! the plastic cylinder liner scares me. So many plastics leach pfas and stuff into hit fluids. Will it be available in stainless liner?
@user-ji9mt7wt3d
@user-ji9mt7wt3d 9 месяцев назад
I love your design idea and I'm interested to buy one for using in my home. May I ask about the price and do you shipping to another country ? . Thank you very much 😊
@hohinlam7996
@hohinlam7996 Год назад
engine bros for the win love it
@BenJoelLush
@BenJoelLush Год назад
Fantastic
@TomatePasFraiche
@TomatePasFraiche Год назад
Ah man, I'd love one of those but too expensive for me. Good luck with the project, it looks amazing already!
@paulie-g
@paulie-g Год назад
They're too expensive for anyone, period. $1200 is robbery unless you consider this an object d'art. You can get an excellent pro-level machine with a manual lever for that money.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 11 месяцев назад
@@paulie-g Not for poor people, that's for sure. But they will sell thousands nonetheless. The kind of people who spend three grand on a boiling water tap aren't going to blink an eye at this. Once one person in a wealthy circle buys one, they'll all have to have one.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Год назад
Several similar design in aliexpress, not sure where the novelty lies? In the helix design maybe?
@allenng2348
@allenng2348 Год назад
Saw this and got excited...went to their website and saw their other work (a good sign for a KS campaign)...then saw that their other work is all €5,000 - €10,000...not hopeful that this will be at a price point in which I'll still be interested. :-(
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob Год назад
£750.
@evrythingis1
@evrythingis1 Год назад
@@Plan3tBob And makes coffee worse than a $15 french press LOL
@Plan3tBob
@Plan3tBob Год назад
@@evrythingis1 :( Shame it is so expensive too as I love the idea of what it is and how it's made. However I couldn't justify the cost and if I did go for a manual it would likely be something which is on version 3-4 by now to iron out the kinks.
@jslanfranchi
@jslanfranchi Год назад
Interested to see how this goes! Good luck to you, very smart approach to the pressure gauge.
@CaptZenPetabyte
@CaptZenPetabyte Год назад
Seriously #wishlist ❤
@benzac119
@benzac119 Год назад
Really love what you guys did. Not just only highlight the craft and care that goes behind the the product but also manage to be completely honest about how it work and how it will deliver. Very rare for kickstarter project indeed.
@SantiagoLuz
@SantiagoLuz Год назад
Absolutely!!! This is fascinating!
@superbanaan8175
@superbanaan8175 Год назад
This is a great video for enthusiasts, no nonsense and lets the machine speak for itself. I think most people are somewhat sceptical with these kinds of machines with the common pressure and temperature difficulties, both tackled in the first 5 minutes. Really exciting, would love to see an independent review as well.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Thanks Superbanaan! “My Coffee Show” put out a first impressions video from the London Coffee Festival if that helps: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GxTDefOAEN4.html We’ve requested a review from several other UK coffee RU-vidrs but we’re still waiting to hear back from them.
@blantonator
@blantonator Год назад
@@chronovaengineering you need James Hoffmans approval for sure.
@methylmike
@methylmike Год назад
Uhhh, guys, holy shit! This is art
@brandonb417
@brandonb417 Год назад
Two questions: 1) Why would there be a higher concentration of water in the center of a larger, 58mm, basket when water always seeks level, and pressure does not favor one side or the other, it is a uniform force over an area, the only time you get uneven distribution is in flow where wall friction reduces flow at the edges, I can't imagine flow is so high it would cause this. 2) For forces, couldn't the mechanical advantage just be increased to make it easier to pull the shot? Seems like the large amount of accessories for 58mm filter baskets would push a move toward that end, such as a jack leveler. I've been using one of those with my double boiler machine and it is a life saver.
@MasterOfNone2023
@MasterOfNone2023 Год назад
This is an amazing piece of design and engineering. Will you be making the plans available for purchase? I'd love to try making one once I finish getting my shop set up for machining
@paulie-g
@paulie-g Год назад
They're charging $1200 for it, so my guess is a big, fat "no". Yes, it's well-engineered and well-machined, but the price is insane.
@PeterSpringhall
@PeterSpringhall 4 месяца назад
Looks very interesting but I’m too late for kickstarter. When do you think the lever version would go into production?
@matthewsmith5883
@matthewsmith5883 Год назад
I love the pressure readout! So much neater than a gauge. Do you think that it's worthwhile to preheat your cup before putting the coffee into it? Or is this just a waste of energy
@xaytana
@xaytana Год назад
Except it literally is a gauge, it's just packaged to be more aesthetically pleasing. Flexion-based gauges have been used for quite some time, the only new thing here is how its packaged, and really the only reason why it'd be potentially worthy of a patent in the first place. If it's even patent-worthy then, as it's just flexion and lever amplification, the actual patent is probably for the machine as a whole, especially as how the gauge is an integrated part to the lever arm itself and not a separable device, of which then it would be patent-worthy; and probably what allows the machine to exist without infringing on similar machines' IPs. Preheating cups is also fairly common practice, as to not thermally shock what you're brewing, if you're drinking the brew straight. Look at Eastern methods of brewing tea, _everything_ involved gets preheated and rinsed, modernly some derivatives of these brewing methods also have a 'tea pet' of which changes color depending on temperature. Coffee, and really anything that is hot-brewed, should be treated the same way, as to not produce unfavorable tastes; much similar to how brewing too hot or too cold will affect the brew itself. Although I'd also argue that coffee is much more sensitive to temperatures and shock if you're drinking plain coffee, this is also why people will commonly add creamer and sugar, to offset any off-tastes; similarly, this is also why cream and sugar is added to tea, though modernly this hails from a period where pre-modern compressed tea would've been nearly undrinkable without cream and sugar, the basis of this comparison is the bitter notes that both coffee and tea can produce, though coffee can also produce sour notes if not at the correct temperatures. The only real time this isn't relevant is if you're making espresso-based cold drinks, where there's such a disparity in the volume of ingredients that the milk base will cover any off-tastes produced by blanching fresh espresso and really only leaving tasting notes from the brew and crema; you see similar things with fresh milk teas, though milk teas are also typically a much stronger brew to retain the tea's flavor that would otherwise be almost entirely masked by the milk, so it's not a direct comparison, but also shows why espresso is used instead of typical coffee for these drinks. It really just depends on what you're drinking and how you're drinking it, but in reality it's far better to keep everything at similar temperatures during the brew and letting it slowly come down in temperature as a whole to your preferred drinking temperature, even if doing so is more effort and a 'waste' of energy.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Thank you! We preheat the cup. Since espresso cups are so small, it takes very little energy to do so.
@08yannch
@08yannch Год назад
last generations? uses custom one way valve when it wears out replacement will be all but impossible, aluminium torque bar with no way of re-calibrating (aluminium being less than ideal as cyclic loading will have a grater effect as compared to a ferrous metal), custom pivot bushing sure it will have a long service life but if it is damaged during service or use it will be all but impossible to replace, and custom lead nut i like how you glossed over this part in you're video leading me to believe you are aware of its shortcomings.
@The_Loathsome
@The_Loathsome Год назад
This looks amazing. I would consider having an option for an unstained and unfinished handles. I sanded the lacquer off my Flair 58 handle and put a mix of rosewood/Purple Heart stain on it and it absolutely pops.
@The88Cheat
@The88Cheat 10 месяцев назад
So. Cool.
@kevingrant5904
@kevingrant5904 Год назад
I would love to buy one of the lever press ones. I hope your kickstarter works out. I’ll definitely buy
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Kevin, thanks for your support! The Kickstarter is now live and accepting pledges: www.kickstarter.com/projects/chronovaengineering/epoch-the-modular-manual-espresso-machine
@JeffRAllenCH
@JeffRAllenCH Год назад
Made me thirsty for s coffee just watching it! Looking forward to ordering one.
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Год назад
Gorgeous. Brilliant ideas and designs. I notice that when you lock in the coffee grounds holders that it turns counter-clockwise. I find that very counter intuitive. Certainly counter intuitive to the machine that I'm accustomed to. As for mounting bases and your comment regarding narrow boats, you could also make a bulkhead mount to keep it off the counter entirely.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Thanks for your comment David. We opted for the counter-clockwise lock to maintain compatibility with La Pavoni portafilters, which also lock this way. Great suggestion re bulkhead mount. We will look into that if there is enough interest.
@playmaka2007
@playmaka2007 9 месяцев назад
Would love to see James Hoffman get his hands on this!
@user-yj6nb2xl3g
@user-yj6nb2xl3g Год назад
James Hoffman = Heat Managment
@eobet
@eobet 8 месяцев назад
Can the liner be made from something that isn’t fossil fuel based? Same question for the return valve…
@WTFA54
@WTFA54 Год назад
This is such an elegant design and I'd love to see other coffee content creators get their hands on this to help your project grow! Some other big figures who've looked at other manual brewers are Lance Hedrick, Kyle Roswell, Morgan Eckroth, and The Real Sprometheus! Looking forward to the Kickstarter!
@cadthunkin
@cadthunkin Год назад
Just found your channel a few days ago. Every video is so good. I'd like to know more about the electronics behind the little cnc mill you did. I've used arduinos for 3d printers but you mentioned a cnc shield. thx
@MassDynamic
@MassDynamic Год назад
sometimes a simple machine is the best machine.
@micmike
@micmike Год назад
Nice, it would be a great project to build the entire press.
@seongtaekbpang7545
@seongtaekbpang7545 3 месяца назад
Request fromSouth Korea I watched your product yesterday. Do you not have any more products left for sale? How much will the item be? And shipping? Thank you
@michahalczuk9071
@michahalczuk9071 Год назад
Everything is fine and dandy, but why is *manual espresso maker multiple times the price of electric one?*
@Lycanta
@Lycanta 6 месяцев назад
It's just this one. The competitors are a lot cheaper 30-50%. This machine looks very nice but it is way to expensive.
@xaytana
@xaytana Год назад
I'm curious what the cylinder liner is. I presume it's a ceramic material by the looks of it, I'm not sure what the proper name for the descriptor actually is but it has that slightly 'milky' look to it that some ceramic compounds have, and the thermal properties it'd provide. My only concern with this is price, considering these manual lever-pressure machines only come out of boutique companies of low volume and high cost; and I'm afraid sticking to the mantra will forever keep these within a very specific niche of the market, when in reality these are so simple and could be so cost-effective that anyone could have one on their countertop if they weren't a boutique item for the niche of the philiacs.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
We’ve tried both Acetal and PTFE for the liner. The examples you see in the video are the latter. PTFE is ideal because of the low friction properties but also its dimensional stability when submerged in water. We certainly considered ceramics. The challenge would be manufacturing them to the required tolerance. Thanks for watching!
@stemazzo84
@stemazzo84 Год назад
Looks amazing! As with all manual levers though, I have a concern regarding heat loss. At minute 3:20 you show the read out of the brew temperature. So after 2 preheat you say the brew temperature is 95c. In this 30s while you brew your shot, would you know how much does the brew temperature drop? Say from 95c to 85c?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Stefano, we have some further temperature tests planned and we’ll publish detailed results on the Kickstarter page. Right now, the thermocouples we used were located above the piston and in the cup, so the direct brew temperature will be somewhere between those temperatures. Many manual lever machines lack sufficient insulation to maintain high chamber temperatures but our chamber is walled with PTFE, which is a very effective insulation material.
@stemazzo84
@stemazzo84 Год назад
@@chronovaengineering super!
@cricocoo
@cricocoo Год назад
Instead of kickstarter, maybe you could organize full week workshops for people to learn metalworking, woodworking, espressoworking and end up with their own personal machine. Good luck!
@danielzaytsev644
@danielzaytsev644 Год назад
any idea when it might launc? very cool product and very cool video!
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Daniel, the campaign is now live on Kickstarter: www.kickstarter.com/projects/chronovaengineering/epoch-the-modular-manual-espresso-machine
@chornykot03
@chornykot03 Год назад
looks great, how much water can fit into the tank?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Leonid, the max volume is approximately 90ml.
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher 2 месяца назад
Im not sure I understand why every espresso machibe makes the chamber out of metal. I would think it should have an inner ceramic layer to prevent heat loss to the metal. That way you wouldnt really need to preheat. Definitely not twice. But none of them do that.
@DeLucaEspressoRepair
@DeLucaEspressoRepair 5 месяцев назад
I would close to try this machine ☕
@user-qk9yd1rb5g
@user-qk9yd1rb5g Год назад
將成為一個 精美 實用 收藏品
@gregchan2543
@gregchan2543 5 месяцев назад
I am very much interested, it is a very clean, simple and ingenious way of making espresso, how could I invest in this project to bring this to the market?
@JustTony72
@JustTony72 Год назад
As a manual espresso lover. This is deeply satisfying
@Ti_Flame
@Ti_Flame Год назад
Is the Material only in prototyping Out of Aluminium?
@amirmwsc
@amirmwsc 11 месяцев назад
very interesting
@warmooze
@warmooze Год назад
Absolutely gorgeous piece of engineering, but why does it lock the wrong way?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi warmooze, our machines are compatible with La Pavoni portafilters, which lock right-to-left.
@Victor-kh5rh
@Victor-kh5rh Год назад
Very cool, thank you for discussing the elephant in the room which is thermal management. I’m no in the market since I have an e61 machine but I could see myself grabbing one for travel or as a secondary machine.
@user-hu8qj6ch7x
@user-hu8qj6ch7x Год назад
I admire your attempt to reduce the design down to essentials with a focus on maintaining a high brewing temperature without the clutter of bulky heating electrics (like the Flair 58). The similar-looking Newton Brua (handmade in New Zealand) has found maintaining a high brewing temperature difficult to achieve (as Coffee Chronicler's tests recently revealed). I have two questions: 1/ In each model, what is the clearance distance between the top surface of the base and the bottom surface of the portafilter? There doesn't look much room to fit a coffee scale under a squat espresso cup. 2/ The pressure gauges are ingenious, but how would I approach flow control and shot profiling as I pull a shot? I look forward to following your Kickstarter. Best of luck with it all.
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Nick, thanks for watching and for your questions! 1) The distance from the bottom of the portafilter to the base is 83 mm, which we thought was enough space for a standard espresso cup and a scale without being excessive. However, we understand that some might want to use particularly thick scales or a larger cup, so we are intending to include a riser block that would sit beneath the bottom of the pillar as an optional add-on. 2) Flow profiling is similar to many other manual machines. You can target a particular pressure at certain time intervals but otherwise, we have had best results partly using the pressure gauge but also using tactile feedback. If you notice some channeling starting to occur, just back off the pressure slightly and, inversely, if the flow is smooth and you are feeling a nice consistent resistance, you can push a bit harder. We like to taper the pressure off towards the end of the extraction as disruption of the puck during extraction makes channeling more likely. Ultimately, it takes a bit of experimentation to get the absolute best out of it, and in our opinion that's half the fun! Hope that answers your questions.
@user-hu8qj6ch7x
@user-hu8qj6ch7x Год назад
@@chronovaengineering Thanks for your considered reply. The riser block is a great idea. How can you tell if channeling is happening while you pull?
@LyndanTylor
@LyndanTylor 3 месяца назад
Is there a away to buy this since the Kickstarter is over?
@tom9836
@tom9836 9 месяцев назад
can the height be higher to allow more space for a digital scale + cup under the basket?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering 9 месяцев назад
Hi Tom, yes, one of the optional add-ons is a riser block which increases the clearance under the basket.
@marcuspagel
@marcuspagel Год назад
Beutiful design. We need to get James Hoffmann to review these!!!
@hevancleifrasson5923
@hevancleifrasson5923 4 месяца назад
Aram espresso sends a hug
@wazzup105
@wazzup105 Год назад
Beautiful!
@yassersoopee4355
@yassersoopee4355 4 месяца назад
Please let me know how I can get one in South Africa :)
@zconiglietti
@zconiglietti Год назад
What's the white cylinder made out of?
@chronovaengineering
@chronovaengineering Год назад
Hi Dusan, the cylinder liner is food-safe PTFE.
@mixel5000
@mixel5000 2 месяца назад
Guys, what do You think, when it is available in order to buy it?
@rharris22222
@rharris22222 Год назад
I was just thinking of a direct cylinder espresso machine today. I was imaging two possibilities for water entry. One was a standard spring check valve, which would be much less elegant than yours. The other was a pair of side ports similar to a two-stroke engine. One for entry and one for overflow. All that to say that I have given the design problem at least a little thought and I really admire your solution!
@jonaskuhn4001
@jonaskuhn4001 6 месяцев назад
Is there any difference to the Flair?
@bertusbob
@bertusbob 10 месяцев назад
👍👍👍
@ChrisKramer_
@ChrisKramer_ 7 дней назад
Where can we buy one of these?
@skeetsmcgrew3282
@skeetsmcgrew3282 Год назад
I do wonder, is modification really an aspect that is highly desirable? If you are truly making each one by hand, it seems reasonable to just provide some options upon purchase. The kind of person who would like to customize this themselves doesn't strike me as the kind of person who needs "permission" to do so. Similarly with the mechanism of applying pressure, does anyone really want to pay for both mechanisms in the off chance that they enjoy one over the other? Obviously for manufacturing reasons it just makes sense to have the cylinders interchangeable, but I don't see any but the most wealthy and obsessive coffee aficionado being sold on the idea of two pressure mechanisms. Especially if, as is oftentimes the case, mod-ability results in a messier and less robust product. That pressure gauge system is a stroke of brilliance though, I must say. A truly elegant solution that matches so well with an equally elegant espresso machine. I don't think I've ever seen something so analogue and inherently robust, essentially as long as the handle doesn't break off the gauge lasts forever. Extremely impressive
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