We need to talk about that Massive Nintendo Leak | MVG 

Indeed. It's disappointing that id stopped doing that after John's departure...

I agree. It's sheer greed by Nintendo for keeping the details of ancient systems under wraps while not really supporting them. Closing down ROM sites while not making the games available is another black mark against them. It'd be different if they were actively using the data to provide people with something, but it's just sitting there locked away "just in case" they might want to do a deal for some third party device.

Amen.

@@Syklonus I think Nintendo and most companies lack trace-ability of their old tech. The community has offered tremendous help via reverse engineering. Probably Bsnes authors know about Snes more than the company due to bad archiving.

I think that releasing tech and keeping data and IP will let you monetize your creations without the risk of losing knowledge. Doom and Quake are still sold for their data, not tech.

Finally they might become affordable and not having to Frankenstein them to make them portable. Looking forward to that.

Portable Wii. Or as it will be called, Pii.

@@yzois For me it's not about homebrew and more about having the possibility of owning a GCN and Wii portable. Playing Metroid Prime on handheld would be priceless for me. Still waiting on that damn Metroid Prime Trilogy on Switch.

Oh shit just thought of that this youtuber I watch might upload more now since he does those type of videos

Except, no. Seeing much as seeing that source code could potentially lead to Nintendo lawyers busting down your door.

it's an image board, they host images in considerably better quality than imgur. greetings from /w/

I hope this stuff has been backed up and archived by thousands of netizens already

@Babes & Board Games in some sense pdf is similar to svg

@@sanjacobs6261 i have the opengl ver

Abrilla 2 M OP said "just to clarify" right before correcting what MVG said. Why does that bother you?

huge breach of copyright law, but at the same time doing God's work.

The Verilog source code isn't actually in the leak

I’m so happy. GAMES BEED TO BE PRESERVED

you can't have copyrighted code in an emulator...

This is great info. I keep hearing that not everything has been discovered yet. Any truth to that ?

@@ModernVintageGamer There's a lot to uncover but for the most part, it's also a huge amount of documentation describing certain components, but mostly security related, from what I could glean. The iQue Player part however, it seems to be pretty much everything, from underlying OS, and other software like the menu, hardware, and also documentation describing the hardware, software, formats, differences with N64, also for hacking games to make them work on iQue, and even a proposal of a protocol to how to localize games into Chinese. This is the hardware that has been blown completely open if it wasn't already.

Very interesting thank you. Since im not tech oriented im interested in the supposed documentation and tech demos. Wonder what pieces of trivia could come from it... maybe stuff like the GC was originally the one that would use motion sensors or if it real that the GC had hardware support for stereoscopic 3D.

@@Refreshment01 The problem with this leak is that it is highly technical, dumbing it down in a way that is easily understood is really hard, and it's especially harder when misinformation is all over the place but I also can't blame them because not everyone has the ability to know what it is.

I found this video because of emulation devs 🤷‍♂️

System preservation and longevity 👍👍

It's good and all for Homebrew purposes, but it kinda came late as the Nintendo Wii is technically hackable with no modchip or need to open up ever since its very release with the first game Nintendo released alongside the console being the very tool for exploit. Hacking a Wii has never been hard and it's in fact the easiest system I've ever seen.

But the leak isnt necessarily a hack, it allows people to completely break down and rebuild code, and actually update the entire system if they wanted to to bring it into the modern era. Which is good.

Pervert!!

I hope this does something for n64 emulation

Shukterhouse Jive “Wow! It just CAME TO ME! HOW ABOUT THAT!??”

Or all those Dolphin branches.

Idk..I'm pretty sure the planets recently aligned in a never-before-seen pattern as well. Who knows what effect that may have had on their nerdy brains!

you can't have copyrighted code in an emulator, they can easily check...

Serrara Willow Mayfield - aka Fluttershy shhh delete this comment

Gesù Bambino done

Serrara Willow Mayfield - aka Fluttershy hehea boy

Abrilla 2 M vimm.net is good site i’ve had no problems so far running gamecube and n64 games

They never actually fully took down their servers so you can get a chrome extension that still lets you download from them

Dolphin could reverse engineer everything now. Translate the code into there own and wallah, 100 accurate emulation at full speed

heydoeradio some things are still very hard to code (look at ubershaders)

As far as i know emulator are legal

Emulator are legal, but playing it on piracy games was illegal

@@fikrijuanda6321 i know

@Random Person There is no putting the shit back in the horse.

Nothing stopping someone from sueing the shit out of someone who tries to use that toothpaste, though.

@@RoadPirateFilms They'll try but it'll be about as effective as the Prohibition was in curbing alcoholism.

You can if you believe...

@Random Person got that right

Imagine wanting to have custom code private in china.

I hate China but I'm glad it exists otherwise the Japanese and American companies will milk us dry with their overpriced and proprietary tech

Lego did it

@@rabbischlomobengoldbergstein i hate every covernemental institution, and no i did not misspell on that

Let's be honest.…they can't shut down ANYTHING. Let's say, for a moment, they bury the Dolphin project. Do you actually think everyone who has ever touched the source code will suddenly delete it? Hell no! It'll be forked and reproduced as something else - likely a touch more "illegal" but who cares? Just because something is "illegal" doesn't make it any more wrong than something that IS "legal" is actually "right." That's the problem with secrets - once they're out...it's impossible to contain them. It's like a glitterbomb.

i got back ups of dolphin but i hope they don't use this shit half assed and mess up

Dolphin developers have stated on record, that no source code from Nintendo have been used in the EMU. Everything has been reversed engineered, and is fully clean code.

Doubtful. As you said, there are only so many ways to do something. A function that returns the bigger of two numbers is going to look the same pretty much everwhere. Nintendo's lawyers would need to prove Dolphin actually copied Nintendo's code, which will be next to impossible

You can't copyright understanding. As long as they don't literally copy significant parts of the source, they will be fine. In a complex enough system there are infinitely many different ways to achieve the same outcome.

Nintendo would never be able to stop that unlike a ROM site.

with wii pong

I had one, it was my first console

Ain't you looking too far in the future? I'd give 5 years for seeing that

More like 2021.

@@ShurekHam well i said 2045 becouse usually bootleg consoles are maked from cheap parts to make money bu soending only a few bucks. I think that in 2045 a wii could cost like 10 dollars (and where i live wii goes for like 30/40 euros)

That makes it even worse

@@ModernVintageGamer What I have been told (use that with a grain of salt), is that this CVS pull was sitting on an internal Nintendo share, and that the source for this is the same as those earlier Pokémon leaks, the person in question presumably would have grabbed around 2TB worth of data in total and is leaking it little by little on 4chan.

@Simula Rose I am fairly certain you can pull files from a CVS and leave them on a hard drive/shared folder...

@Simula Rose That's not what you understood.

Too bad the prototype of Zelda 64 / Mario64 hasn't been dumped from these servers though It's a proof that Nintendo keep all of their work archived in a server. Good to know

Not defending Nintendo here, but legally they have to, to be able to trademark their characters and brand.

Not really. This isn't related to trademarks at all. The only cases Nintendo can start because of this are copyright cases. Trademarks are only when you're using the name/branding in a way that can cause confusion.

Examples of "furious litigation"?

@@Quantris Dude, Nintendo is bloody insane. They take down videos, claim videos, take down fan-projects with 100% original content, shut down entire sites relating to emulation and basically hates everything that anyone does that does not involve them when even remotely looking like any of their IP. I mean, they even had THEIR OWN ANTI-PIRACY SITE because they were not satisfied how strict the laws are and wanted to hunt down every single one (was shut down a few months ago, probably gave up on it since it really didn't work well for them)

@@Quantris Nintendo also enforced that any stream or video even remotely containing their games OR EVEN TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING Nintendo related should have to pay them 30% or more of all income. Again, this did not look good on them and they had to abandon that, but not happily.

There could be any number of IOS acronyms, and no one could go after anyone for it. However, if you tried to release something called 'iOS', then, Apple could do bad things to you.

They should have called it NIOS .

daniel sonhud That is what Infoblox OS is called for their DDI appliances :)

@@danielsonhud48 Could have, but at the time, iphone wasn't a thing. Wii came out before.

@@wmx99 I probably should have Googled it first 😄

*2.x Control style, strafing, CC, looking down Intensifies*

So barely 30fps?

@@megan_alnico Lol

we just need the Goldeney-X project to go even further and somehow add networked multiplayer.

@@thechuckennoris5751 Handicap +2.0 for all, Rockets, on Temple. Let the slideshow commence

nah just use that "clean room" method if you're gonna, like another comment said person A looks at the leaks and develops code based on it, person B looks at person A's work and oop look at that how handy

@@edfreak9001 I am surprised that MVG didn't bring this up. It's a very convenient loophole that would allow Dolphin to use the leaks.

It worked for Phoenix Technologies

china : starts production, makes Wii 4k (& Knuckles)

@@edfreak9001 Literally called Chinese Wall reverse engineering and is how the first IBM PC clones were legally made. The "looker" actually makes documentation. The coder than builds something based on that documentation.

Because they don't owe it to you?

Knowing that middleware and libraries are things, I would not be surprised at all if they had good reasons. Unless you think it is super-duper easy to strip out and rewrite any and all code you didn't write yourself. Of course, I didn't look at the source code. Maybe they *did* write everything, or at least licensed things that are under open-source compliant licenses. I doubt that, however.

@@ElliotKeaton "tHeY dOn'T oWe iT tO yOu!" Okay so let every game they don't care about fade away from history because they don't give a shit about conserving their own games.

@@ElliotKeaton Imagine if Citizen Kane was never out on DVD, so the only way to watch it is through VHS. On top of the inconvenience of having to obtain outdated technology to view it, VHS tapes will eventually wear out. In response, people try to make it more accessible, and preserve it for future generations, only to be sued by the rights holders; despite the fact they're not making any money on it anymore since all the tapes are sold secondhand. Eventually, the tapes will wear out, and future generations will never get to watch this movie. That's basically what's happening with video game preservation. TL;DR Video game preservation is IMPORTANT.

@@ElliotKeaton Don't act like you know what you're talking about.

They partially took action together with Microsoft against the leaker 2 years ago, the floodgates won't be stopping soon

Will nintendo have enough lawyers to weather this storm? Karma is a B-

Whoever had this data, is not deleting it. Chances are this won't stop, and it sounds like Microsoft and Nintendo had some leaky servers some time ago. I'd be more interested if they had current consoles like the switch or other newer ones like the Wii U. This will definitely change emulation, a Nintendo cannot get it off the internet once it's out there. They can issue as many takedowns as they want, but the date is out there, and it will be out there forever.

@@SheepyChris People are not really sure if all this information actually comes from the same hack that was done in 2018. The iQue stuff kind of hints at that tho.

Legal Team: "Hmmmmm breakfast" 😋

probably even worse considering the Wii was still in production ten years ago

If I was in charge of nintendo, today I wouldn't care, but 10 years ago I would since the system was still the top of the line from nintendo.

I don't think it would have mattered. By 2010, Homebrew Channel was stable, mature, and had a better firmware flashing record than Nintendo themselves.

Well, what would have happened is exactly what happened to the Dreamcast... the Wii would have swiftly disappeared from the market after suffering from immense pirating.

@@dbzispimpin Like the DS disappeared, right? >_> Piracy didn't kill the Dreamcast; capitalism did.

I'm curious why? Isn't it supposed to make it easier?

@@Cosmiichu Nope, it makes it more difficult as they now have to prove that they haven't used the leaked code in their emulators (which up until now, they haven't and Dolphin have outright said that they can't even look at rhe code because incorporating it would put them under threat)

@@GeoNeilUK On the flip side Nintendo would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the code was copied which gets a bit hairy. Some code is always going to look the same or boil down to the same because that's just how it is (there's only so many ways to write a particular function so even in proprietary code there's a lot of overlap). On the one hand that could help emulators since they could argue that it's just a coincidence but on the other hand big companies can try to make it look like other people are copying code even when they aren't and the defense has to prove to an ignorant Judge/Jury that a particular function can only be written one way or can only be written in a small handful of ways and the chances of overlapping is significant enough that it's unfair to say it's copied (trying to find a good metaphor to put it into layman's terms but I suck at that).

Gregory Norris I didn’t read your whole comment but whether Nintendo is right or wrong they have unlimited money and lawyers to make anyone go broke defending themselves

*Hold my bat soup _cough_

Adolf1Extra racist

@@ogjogi4506 lol

@@ogjogi4506 lol

J.A.M lol

Issue is that it's also not that easy. Person who looked deeply at source code cannot work on emulator anymore, because they can subcounciously write code that will be copy of leaked code and entire project will be shut down. You would need to have second person who learn source code and advise, but not write any code.

The problem with this is that they'll be inevitably influenced by the code and they would be risking a lot.

@@Masa-san how would nintendo even prove that lol

@@arturseguro They don't need. They just sue team and this team needs to prove that they did not come up with this thanks to leaked source code. Lol

Watch Halt and Catch Fire and you'll see this exact issue play out on screen.

the best possibility is to create a new system update that puts the "official" firmware on the Wii, but it's not official at all. it would be the same as running whatever boot loader but zero risk of bricking the system (since it is official) and would be undetectable by N. the home-brew could be added in without issue. Also, other "best thing" stuff would be N64 GC and Wii on a Chip with a boot loader that prompts you to choose a system, and then lets you launch whatever

This is already possible...

@@MattiKoopa With softmodding yes. Just not the way I propose. I am talking about an update you can install on an unmodded system.

Like, say, a Homebrew Channel? :P

That last part is utterly unnecessary. There have been a couple of Homebrew "stores" in the Wii's past, and the Wii Shop Channel is just another channel, so a replacement of the channel data via hacking is already possible. They COULD try to revive the Wii Shop Channel itself, but there is no real reason to as you can just install channels via WAD files with a WAD manager.

_Cray would like to know your location_

Cisco made a deal with Apple for it.

I agree completely, this kind of stuff can be used for a lot of good in terms of archival purposes. Look at the Wii Shop Channel, for instance. Without emulation, there are a ton of WiiWare games that are now unplayable.

They have to protect the way they make their systems and games. it's like if you have a secret recipe for your restaurant that you don't use anymore. You still don't that getting out to the public in case someone else decides to copy it and profit from it. They probably could disclose some of these information but not everything like what happened.

Frood on the other hand Nintendo loves porting stuff to make extra cash on retro games. i think thats why they are so restrictive. if a 4k native PC version of Nintendo Game X is easily available, why bother buying the port

No profit, No investments, No new consoles.

John I’m pretty sure it’s legal if you don’t start pirating. You technically payed for the damn thing, your property, do whatever you want with it. Besides, if it’s not being manufactured and everything is shutdown or no one uses the console, then i think it’s legal. I don’t really know if it’s legal or not, but I know it’s alright if you don’t download pirating apps. And, to answer your question(kinda?) I’m pretty sure everything you download without a VPN is shown on your IP, (not sure how to explain.) Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are huge companies in general, so they have your IP, and they can just do really sketchy things to find out who you are, and sue you. Sorry if I made any wrong answers, i really don’t know much on the subject in general.

they should hack some evil companies like MPC or apple but not Nintendo

A little of column A a little of column B.

initial hack actually happened a while ago

@Leagle Eagle wat

@@shadowtheimpure yeah.... pretty much

Highly possible

Hopefully

YES!!!

there is footage isnt there? id love too see how the ideas from Mother 3 were first attempted on the 64.

Perfectly agreed. I hope that the copies weren’t destroyed

Nintendo could argue that this impacted the sale of their rereleased games which would be difficult to disprove.

@@wasabij Sure, but most people have computers and smart phones, and emulators have come a long way, so that poses a larger risk for their IP. Thing is average joe is just going to buy the game the easy way, it's only the tech savvy that are any threat, and they are few. China is a higher risk than the rest of the world, but China doesn't give a shit about any laws.

KARMA IS A BITCH!

@@wyvern4588 Despite my hatered of CCP, I will DEFINITELY buy/"IP-steal" any old pirated games!

It's bad for business. It's bad for their stakeholders. Nintendo will have to answer to the stakeholders.

or just... KARMA :D

Revenge

They had it coming. I love Nintendo to death but they have some questionable policies. Look at how Sega treats fan projects. They bring them in to work for them!

SlamBolts especially when it comes to Streets of Rage Remake :D

@@nattila7713 That too lol

That would be fucking awesome

Fugitive's Broadcast not really

@@Gallade082 think of the world's of homebrew that could come with that. The Wiis basically discontinued so why not breathe some aftermarket life into it?

@@butch5020 I sold my softmodded Wii like 8 years ago. I'd love to get a cheap Chinese clone that can play Wii, GC and N64 out if the box with ROM support, hopefully with support for HDMI and GC controllers like the Wavebird

I get it why you would not want someone using your work as a company, but when it's unsupported and you don't make any money with it anyway anymore, who cares?

would something like this end up helping with making rom hacks too?

We've had working Wii hombrew and emulators since eons ago.

source? im actually wainting to hear more about demos and protos.. zelda ura ,mother 64 and mario 64 proto..

@@tobbeborislyba I downloaded the full sources

@@tobbeborislyba plus there are no games.

lmao. the games are bigger than the operating systems.

@@marioisawesome8218 Makes sense. Games are mainly large in size due to storing texture data, and especially if any videos are stored. Code is just text, which doesn't require huge amount of space.

It will be called vii

@@SorinNicu Or Chii

It will be a box that looks like a Wii and says it's a Wii when you boot it but only plays the Atari ET game.

You can just get a used one on eBay

Nintendo doesn't care about Wii anymore

Shutting yourself off isn't actually a defence. It doesn't matter if two inventors invent the same thing independently. That situation has come before the courts 1000 times, and every time they reaffirm that the only thing that matters is who owns the patent/copyright. Dolphin exist because Nintendo hasnt tried to sue the yet. that's their only defence against one of the worlds largest companies.

Yup, that's what I think too. Nintendo will leap at this chance to sue Dolphin no matter what the Dolphin devs do, because that's what Nintendo does. I'm not buying anything from Nintendo, except used, and then only if it's old enough to be fully rooted with no hassle (i.e, older DSes)

@Defender ofOasis Emuparadise is up and running and even still has n64 roms. Can you elaborate a bit?

@A B here's a nintendo fanboy lol

*leaks. This (to fix your comma splice run-on) *interesting.

take a look at 4chan if you're interested. :)

Franco Perez 4chan is just a bootleg version of reddit

@@LoLingVo i just looked 4chan because when i was notified about the leak, several sites said that it came from there.

I just found out too

It's not particularly Nintendo of America, it's more Nintendo of Japan. They were the ones that outlawed video game renting after all.

@@claytongray7656 Such a thing would be more along the lines of how Japan in general is. Sure, it's not necessarily good, but not Nintendo exclusive either. NoJ went along with the nation's 'tighter-ship' standards, and that's really about it. It's a market they wanted not to risk getting involved in, and that I understand.

Amy Carter bruh

@@isleaf69 (raspberry)

@@AmyraCarter Wasn't it under the orders of Nintendo Japan that Nintendo DMCA'd videos of people playing their shit years ago? Japan is so out of touch with the way things work in the western world.

vedi0boy true. Let’s hope devs use this responsibly

Problem with that approach is you'd have to look at the copyrighted code in detail to make sure nobody is.... reading or copying from the copyrighted code. It's Meno's Paradox, baby.

@@silentdebugger exactly. It just complicates everything. It would have been better if it never leaked

Well I'm just hoping this doesn't "discontinue" Dolphin or anything like that. Dolphin is amazing. I would never go back to the original hardware for gameplay, only dumping system info and games.

I struggle to understand why emulator creators don't use darkweb more, look at iw4x they had enough of DMCA's so stuck it onto the onion which hasn't been taken down since.

How is it poetic? Do you think Nintendo should be punished for stopping the illegal spread of their software?

@@stale2665 yes they should

@@stale2665 they did more than "stopping illegal spread of their software" :)

@@stale2665 stop defending them

the konbucha mushroom people sitting around all day (nice pfp)

Karma for protecting their IPs?

Exactly!

To be honest. Non of their action can cause any real damage to the scene. There are just to many romdumps out in the wild for that. So personally i feel indifferent about it.

@@LambdaBelmont Old ass IPs made by companies and/or employees that don't even exist anymore in the game industry 🙄 I swear people like you are so dumb and ignorant

Drake Humphries On one hand, yes they’re protecting their IPs. On the other hand, they refuse to rerelease these games on modern platforms. What do you expect people to do? Sit around twiddling their thumbs until the big N never rereleases a single GameCube game? No. Most people emulate not to steal games but because that’s the most viable option to play them. For example, if you want to play Super Mario Sunshine today (assuming you lack the hardware and game), you either buy both a GameCube and Sunshine off eBay (where not a cent of your money goes to Nintendo mind you) or you emulate it. Another reason that emulation exists is for the purpose of media preservation and to stop old games that never stand a chance of being rereleased ever again from ultimately becoming lost. Cartridges break. Discs get worn. Nintendo clearly shows no interest in the preservation of their games. The internet, on the other hand, does with many websites dedicated to tracking down lost media and preserving it solely out of the respect for people’s nostalgia and the people who made the game to begin with.

who

True. Cisco licenced the name to the overpriced fruit company. How valid a trademark is on a descriptive acronym is debatable (IOS means things like "Internal OS" and "Internet OS" - it's an operating system, therefore descriptive)

They did.. and the funny thing is between your seat, your ISP and the server hosting this video you are probably connecting to at least one Cisco network device running IOS, and that's probably been true for as long as the Internet as we know it has been a thing.

No Name: Cisco is one of the largest and most significant IT companies in the world

I think you underestimate how strict FOSS devs are about this. Proprietary code taint is taken very seriously because while it may be hard to prove, if it IS proved, the results are disastrous.

Luckily theres an easy solution called clean-room design. You have Dolphin developer A and uninvolved developer B, B doesn't develop Dolphin in any way. B looks at the leaks, gathers the important info and compiles it into his own creation of info on the device A then reads the info B compiled and uses that to improve the emulator. Thus A never looked at the leaked data, and B, who did, has no involvement with Dolphin development, so code in Dolphin can't be based/copied from code in the leak.

I wonder, now that N64's Source code (and iQue) is leaked as well, maybe N64 emulation can benefit from it greatly. By that I mean we can get a better android N64 emulator for smartphones -or- we get a portable device that can play N64 roms. We already have such devices but they cannot do N64 full (we have portable emulation devices called "Retro portables" one of them can be the Retro Pie 3 and 4)

Most of the problems with N64 Emulation stem from modern emulators still being based on UltraHLE from 1999. If a new emulator could be made with this leak, that'd benefit everyone greatly, as you said.

It would be complicated to prove, but Nintendo has more money than an FPGA dev does. They could file a lawsuit and enter discovery to search every hard disk and storage device that the dev has to make sure the code wasn't looked at or deleted (at least from how I understand it). The very fear of that happening, could stop anyone from working on such a system.

Yeah, but Dolphin would still need to show up to court to defend themselves, and Nintendo has the resources to drag a lawsuit out for years.

@@Extramrdo Why not just become closed source and use their source code?

Xavier You could still get sued, then an independent auditing firm would be hired to take a look at your closed source code. If propietary Nintendo code is found, same rules apply.

@@xavier7769 The fork or Dolphin?

San Jacobs Dolphin. Nintendo can't track down all forks especially if the forks are in China or Russia

Sharing is caring comrade

Their overt plans are to quickly gain terrain on the West by stealing.

This is awesome. As a FOSS enthusiast I can side with China on that.

Well, they gave us a pandemic virus, it's about time to apologize and give us some N64's and Wii HDMI clones.

@@pendergastj I don't get why people seem to defend nintendo allways or way too biased about it. Nintendo in theory should have nothing to do with wii devices but they known to dmca whatever they found, they even dmca similar looking games to fossilized super mario bros

Are you forgetting that we're in a pandemic? Those people are probably working from home, not hanging around water coolers.

@@alvallac2171 Oh yeah, I did forget! Ok then, under NORMAL circumstances...

they're most likely having a video conference about the situation

@@Dash120z It wouldn't surprise me if the applicable staff was recalled to HQ, because I would guess that being shouted at in person is far more effective than via video conference. The top Execs wouldn't care

alvallac21 Japan isn’t in lockdown, well last time I checked.

was just watching your recent quarantine video then arrived here suspicious

Hey

@@hambu4781 yes my brudda?

@@VegitoBlackityBlack Nice Pic

@@hambu4781 I know brother. I know.

@@VegitoBlackityBlack - Do you know dee way my brudda? Dee way of the Devil?

KOX3D they had nothing better to do I guess

They boring like human beings

Now Microsoft too

Really the issue is meeting timing at the high single core clock rates the Wii would use. A soft core probably won't meet timing. However if you could slow the clock and increase the IPC maybe. But you might as well start from scratch then.

Me too! Imagine having complete OS replacements similar to what we have on the Switch

what kind of improvements would you expect out an ARM9 core ? it's slow as hell and the wifi is slow as well. Remember ninty working night and day to give stable wii u pad video streaming on newer hardware. At most you could run video/sound decoding stuff but the ARM core has no VFP... the PPC is much better for these tasks, also the synchronization mechanisms (IPC) between processors is asynchronous, so at best you could upload multimedia tasks given PPC is not using the memory ARM uses or the waitstates will stall both processors

Current gen piracy is the only issue I have. If people can use this to show more behind the scenes architecture and create more nuanced homebrews, I'm all for it.

Yeah, it's all outdated technology that Nintendo isn't doing much with. Set it free, I say. Same with all older, abandoned hardware and software, e.g. the 68k and Power Macintosh. I wish that source code and all would get leaked.

Every time I hear IOS I think of Cisco they have been using that term since the 80's and I am sure they aren't the first.

BIOS

@@wompastompa3692 Bi-OS an LGWiiT Operating System

@@wompastompa3692 It's not a BIOS (Basic Input Output System) cause it's not built to work for basic.

cIOS: custom Input Output System

Exactly what I thought about when I first heard about it.

Who cares?

kinerry many people do actually.

All of us

@@MyzttYT Why though

They certainly won't last long.

I might look into buying one of those system on a chips and produce my own cheap Game Cube portable. Wouldnt that be awesome ;)

@@pendergastj yeah. im really excited about gamecube portables, since the size of discs are like 3 inches and i personally feel gamecube games are so underrated.

Better buy it quick

I am excited for that. I would love to have a N64 and Gamecube clone

I could see someone using this to make a closed-source emulator (So nintendo couldn't hound their ass), kinda like CEMU for the Wii U.

How long before we get a n64 296 in 1 system?

In Nintendo's case, they are abiding with Japanese law, specifically a law enacted last year called the "Unfair Competition Prevention Law". Basically, it bans people within Japan from modifying save data, softmodding consoles, or even downloading an MP3 from an unauthorized website will be punishable with heavy fines and potentially prison time. Last year, MVG was involved in copyright trouble with Nintendo (Japan), and Nintendo also shut down BrawlBRSTMS3. Again, even though courts abroad may allow these types of channels, Japan does not. I should add that CD ripping is still legal in Japan, unlike in the United Kingdom. Companies like I-O DATA sell products that allow an end-user to rip their CDs directly to a smartphone, as the Japanese music industry has kept the CD alive every year since 1982 (the format's introduction in Japan), and idol groups like Nogizaka46 have special goods (such as music video DVDs/Blu-rays) that are only obtainable if you buy the CD version. As for the US, CD ripping is legal AS LONG AS YOU DON'T REDISTRIBUTE YOUR OWN CD RIPS ON THE INTERNET. In the UK, ALL RIPPING IS BANNED.

@@lucasn0tch wait, can I know what case it is that involves with MVG?

@@lucasn0tch that's a really detailed response! regarding the juxtaposition of japanese and uk/us laws, given that, would there be a possibility for legal action against any external actors from other countries? What possible legal consequences could there be?

Again 6:26. Learnings are to be made. But most was already known. Devs needs to stay away from anything that could make claims from Nintendo.

@@litjellyfish I agree.

I don't have the verilog files, how many LE's we talking? the GX series is ~200k practically IIRC.

what about a N64 fpga?

@@yknx4 I would assume so. Probably not on 1 chip, but you could most likely put the CPU on 1, GPU on another, etc.. I'd love to try, but i cant find out where to download.

not only that, good luck replicating broadon and GX timings

I wonder how cheaply PowerPC-compatible chips could be had. A sufficiently inexpensive, lower-power PPC chip would make it possible.

Awesome news for programmers like myself :)

Supposedly this is all stuff that was hacked a year or two ago. Though you are probably right in that they are releasing it because they are bored.

no it was hacked n 2018

"Hackers are finally getting bored of staying home" is pretty oxymoronic.

Dragzilla 66 Get outta here Sombra!

Exactly. Someone needs to be the dirty mole to go read through all of this, figure out how it works, and leave tips for all the guys developing stuff from scratch. I feel .. a little bad for Nintendo, but I love LOVE the idea of having thoroughly documented NES through Wii so anyone can start hacking on the hardware and software. If all you’re thinking of is piracy, you’re really missing out on the fun. So many possibilities!

@@nickwallette6201 I'll do it, but I charge $3.50

@@SRC267 Here's your tree fitty 💰

@@nickwallette6201 I reckon there are people already doing it. If there's a bunch of commits to dolphin without any explanation, chances are they'll be removed without much notice. But nothing is stopping someone from making a fork and using the leaked copyrighted material to improve dolphin.

There's a similar concept with trivia aggregates (and probably encyclopedias). Include one fake fact in there, and if you see it pop up elsewhere, you know they copied from you. Trivia Pursuit at least did this at one point, I heard they sued a company over it (I don't know if they won that). I heard a rumor that Guru Larry does this with his videos as well.