@GrandLineReview -> When are you going to talk about 'the voice of all things'? Could Gear 5 unlock completely the power to 'voice' (command) 'things '(Emeth, Zunesha, Thousand Sunny 🤣)?
So ClouD C-Lover? That son of a knock up stream riding. Making cloud seas more populated for us locals and our dial craft...😡 Btw Atlas has Ginnys hair but Kumas bulk. Weird
There's over 1000 One Piece characters and screentime/paneltime can't be shared equally between them all. So the more important characters get more stuff to do, while the less important characters get less to do. That's why any straw hat that isn't Luffy, Zoro, Sanji or Jinbe get nothing to do.
the lilith metaphor of being cut off from punk records/cut off from paradise works SO well given the very specific fact that vegapunk's head was an apple, and an apple is the most commonly depicted forbidden fruit from eden myths. idk, that just seems like such a fun parallel
There's also the fact that *Lilith* was the original First Woman in some versions of the tale, with her having been cast out and later replaced with the more commonly-known Eve. EDIT: Which got mentioned in the vid. nice to know I wasn't the only one who thought of that.
Nobody mentioning the link with Atlas and her namesake. The titan Atlas was condemned to 'hold aloft the celestial spheres' after the war with the olympians. Atlas died lifting one of the celestial spheres into the sky. Oda knows what he is doing.
I have not really check the comments since there alot but am kind of surprised no one mentioned she a sheep. Wonder if she a "does electric sheep dream" reference.
I would say he’s Rocks D. Ile and went undercover by changing his Name, because he experienced the same as Nico Robin but instead of joining Luffy he joined Luffys Dad, where he was turned into a man by Iva
0:33 Even if Kuzan had frozen Saul to preserve his life, his giant frozen body would have been noticed by the Buster Call Marines to check if there's any sign of survivors post-bombardment. Plus a frozen Giant sticks out like a massive sore thumb.
sure its a sore thumb,but what if either the rest of the marine thought the giant is dead due to being frozen,or everyone just take kuzan word for it that the giant is dead so that he can unfreeze and escape later considering he is a vice admiral at this point,not that far fetched
@brettwallace7687 i suppose it's the difference between coating something in ice vs freezing that same thing through and through. It's very possible he can control the temperature of the ice he makes.
@@stephenurban1051Clovers hairstyle at a young age is bald with 3 leaf clover above and 2 leaf on the side older one lost the one at top but made it a steem and grown a beard to make a 3rd leaf bro was planning that style for years 😂
Another option to explain clovers lack of smiling, he didnt die and is infact the man marked by flames(of a buster call). It would make sense that he can read poneglyphs and help you reach the one piece that way
By the logic of One Piece Clover didn't die when he got shot. According to Professor Hirluk, one dies when he's forgotten after his death and as long Vegapunk, Robin, and Dragon (plus everyone in O'Hara that survived) remembers Clover and forever respects he's work and the way he lived. So, by that logic, he's not dead.
Clover being Irish makes sense because Ireland is the Country of Saints and Scholars. I spoke to my cousin who’s fluent in Gaelige and he said that some regions pronounce it Clee-uv(that’s how I read it myself) but in Ulster they’d pronounce it “Clee-ooo”. I’ll ask my Grandmother next weekend as she’s a native speaker. She’s from Ulster.
The fada over the "I" would turn the sound more into an "ee" sound. So clee-uv would be phonetically correct for 3 of the 4 irish dialects. I dont know any dialect where "aí" would make an "aa" sounds@billysiggins2236
The D. Clan is really fleshing out to be a collection of talented individuals. Clover family are archeologists. Law are Doctors. Nefatari are Royalty. I see a nation being built piece by piece. D is the name of the ancient Kingdom.
@@tsunamijune No problem. Both Trafalgar Law and Cloud ( Clou D. ) Clover both kind of have "two last names" going on. Law I find funny because he either has four names ( counting the D initial as a name ) or his personal name is "Water Law". Take your pick, there's nothing to clarify it that I know of.
You could say that clover is not crying about his imminent death, but about the burning of ohara. I think the members of the d clan smile because they inherently know their will is going to be passed on, its not like they never cry when something bad happens
That is what I believe as well. He was crying for the loss of his life work and all the knowledge they gathered. The loss of the life of all his friends around him. The will if D doesn't make one immune to sadness, as we have seen luffy cry at the loss and near loss of those he cares for, it is his own death he smiles at. To think Luffy would be laughing as his crew dies around him along with the sunny, is in fact, laughable.
I'm thinking time traveling Joy Boy. My quick theory: Toki sent Joy Boy into the future on Laughtale. She was trying to get to Wano because she wanted to prepare for his arrival, likely by getting Pluton ready for him. Roger was too early because he was literally too early for Joy Boy to come out of the time jump that Toki sent him on. She sent Emmet on a similar jump, which is why he suddenly appeared on top of the Red Line.
This doesn't quite work if Joyboy had Luffy's devil fruit. Joyboy would need to be 100% dead for Luffy to gain access to the fruit. However, I would entertain the notion that A) Toki sent the fruit itself into the future, hence how it eluded the WG for so long, and also how Shanks knew to steal it, since Roger would have told him when it would appear. And B) whatever is on Laugh Tale, is definitely arriving from the past.
Then what did Roger find in Laugh Tale? Is One Piece another Poneglyph message? A prophetic message? Seem anticlimactic. Does it say Joy Boy will appear this time in the future? We don't yet know what Roger meant when he said they were too early.
@@FabbrizioPlays I think we just don't know enough about devil fruits still, because if someone is removed from time and sent forward to a new time the fruit could possibly still appear again without a true death granted i still don't know if i like the idea of joyboy or luffy being sent forward or backwards because it would feel like luffy's part in the story wasn't to do with freedom will but destiny which contradicts a lot of one pieces core message being freedom and while they might inherent wills aren't tied to it
how does that even make sense we literally saw luffy as a child and joyboy clearly was on pirate king lvl strength adult... just reaching at this point....
I wonder if Oda will take a "Dragon Ball Time Travel" Approach, as in, you *can* travel back in time, but create a new timeline in the process. So one branch plays out "normally" while the "canon" one proceeds from the "past", with new options to go from.
I mean if he's your favorite then you know the (1120+) at the end of the title means this video is speculation about the next chapter and doesn't contain any new information, but yes for everyone else clickbait.
I mean, if you read the chapter first , I'm not sure how you'd think this is about Zoro. Also the Zoro thing is more likely related to the sbs and the fact that he's pretty much the second main character.
The Irish connection to Clover also makes sense from the historical aspect of the Dark Ages. It's believed by many historians that Irish clergy, monks etc preserved the written word and knowledge, and we're instrumental in bringing the British out of the Dark Ages.
Maybe. Would we get to see any of that fight if that is the case? Otherwise I'm curious if it could be an ancient giant with those crazy warning signs. Could maybe be what was in the mystery egg Roger was sailing with during Edd War?
I think the biggest issue with time traveling Luffy is the fact that the crew is different. Luffy would never leave his current crew and they would never leave him
I think Vegapunk Stella is still alive, though unconcious, Kizaru switched sides after all, burning Vegapunks fatal wound recived by Saturn. He said, he was going to die, if moved, but burning a wound is one of the oldest treatments, to prevent infection and stop the bloodloss. And 2nd I think a simple and possible idea for Kuma to get his memories back is for the strawhats to fight Blackbeard, as he's holding Pudding hostage, who should easily be able to take Kumas memories from Bonney and return them.
We aren't done with the brain yet. York didn't know Stella could lie about all of his research and the transmission because "Stella" likely wasn't controlled by "Stella" while the body did the work. The Brain took over the satellite to do its work, like I think it did with Shaka calling Dragon. York hasn't uploaded to Punk Records in a while, does her searching for the other satellites mean the Brain could hack her?
I think the time travel is way off the mark but I believe it's possible joyboy had observation Haki so strong that he could see centuries into the future and that's why he laid out his plan and knew when he would "come back" which was the positive fated future he wanted
Oh he is a fucking perfect inspo!! Like imagine for some characters back story someone they loved died after tying themself to a rock or tree, to make sure they die standing. Such a perfect moment for one piece.
"scanlations make mistakes more often than the official" NO, they've been calling zoro "zolo" since the beginning, I count each instance of zolo as a mistake, so the official makes mistakes every single chapter that zoro is named.
Buggy D. Clown, which he as conqueror Haki since he can attract so many people to himself, is gonna be the next pirate king and Gol D. Roger discovered that when he was in Laugh Tale. That's why he was laughing
The clickbait in these thumbnails are too much man. Love this channel but I'm so close to just dropping it because the thumbnails are pointless and obnoxious
The Irish were renowned for their preservation of a great deal of literature during the dark ages. While the continent collapsed, Irish Monks worked to copy books, adding illuminations (illustrations) to many of them.
Time travel Luffy sounds like a thing where Black Beard swallows Luffy into a Black Hole as some ultimate attack only for Luffy to come out from another part of the area having done everything in the past and coming back to finish Blackbeard.
A few theories for fun: 1) "The worst generation" could be in regards to this time loop playing out. Each time a world ending event happens, Imu jumps back and tries again. This "generation" has been the most chaotic and unpredictable in terms of players on the field. Luffy getting the Nika fruit instead of someone else (Bonney in another timeline.) Which begs the question. Shanks was already strong when Luffy was a kid, likely had observation haki, but maybe something prevented him from seeing Luffy eating it. While initially upset, he realizes he must have been a fate thing, just like him with Roger. 2) Zoro's lack of direction is because he's a human compass that only works at a certain place or during a certain event. Everywhere else, he's like an animal that uses the magnetic poles to navigate and gets thrown off when it goes wonky the same reason they need the special compasses to navigate.
You forget one very important thing, GLR! Every single Devil Fruit has another fruit with similar powers: Crocodile being sand and Caribou being mud Kuzan being ice and Monet being snow So since Toki is future, a fruit must exist which can send people to the past
My prediction for the upcoming chapter: - The chapter involves more of everyone's rxn to Roger's name, which also includes more cameos, as well as Buggy himself. - Kuma tries to take action against Saturn, whether or not he will be saved. - The SH reunite on the Sunny. - VP reveals the last part of his message, including the name of the Ancient Kingdom. - No break next week.
Time traveling Luffy would extend the story so much. No way Oda could condense the entire timeline of all those past events and characters into a single arc.
Wow the observation that people with the will of D die smiling because they die with no regrets also puts into perspective why Gojo was smiling during his final moments as well.
Mugiwara travel to the past to "laugh tale" (the only place that seems geographically unreachable). Emeth being the creation of Franky and his strong right style of attack, Brook writing Bink's Sake (explaining why the chorus is literally his laugh), Usopp writing the famous great adventure book (forgot the name), and more...
A lunarian probably like what vegapunk attempted to made as new pacifistas, i think nika is a seperate person from joyboy though, just luffy happened to inherit the gimmick from both
@@gamescentrel2951 The Nika silhouette doesn't have wings though. Remember Misery? Big Mom's strongest homie? It had a human shape to it. I think the more souls a homie absorbs, the more human they become. Misery also had a kind of Haguromo scarf similar to awakened Zoan users. The Gorosei also have Haguromo scarves and were introduced as "yokai", not df users. Yokai in Japanese myth are often times just possessed, living objects. And we know there are animal type homies... I think it's entirely possible that the Gorosei are Nika's crew mates, and their captain was the first soru soru no mi user, who created all of them. Saturn did recognize Nika as if he had seen him personally.
I think Emeth mistaking Luffy for Joy boy is an indication of how much we don't know about devil fruits. It feels like devil fruits bestow more than just powers, but seem to be a genetic black box that carries a signature down the line across time and space.
For my the “why” could be that vegapunk was so moved by the memories and what was going on she became the personification of just what was wrong with the world gov and a constant reminder of the terrible acts they committed fueling his angry side
I like the idea that Vegapunk decided to make Atlas look like Ginny after seeing Kuma's memories. I imagine it made him furious and he needed a way to deal with that anger and that inspired Atlas' creation. This makes me want to see Atlas punch Saturn that much more.
Theory for the next chapter- starts out with Saint Ethan about to attack Bonny and Kuma. Bonny, too scared to move, cry’s out “SAVE ME, DADDY”. Her devil fruit activates but not for her. Kuma is transformed back to its prime self (before becoming a cyborg). Realizing the situation, he latches on to Saint Ethan and gives Bonny a real goodbye as a person before sacrificing himself to eliminate one of the Elder Stars.
I think the crew splits up again; Zoro, Franky and Lilith confirmed to be together on one ship to Wano. Ussop and Robin to Elbaf forsure. The rest might go where will best benefit their story arc. Maybe some to visit Dragon and Sabo. Some might infiltrate Beehive island to save Garp (Luffy, Jinbei and Bonney?). Another group go to the man marked by flames?? I’m saying this cuz everyone need another power up/training arc. This to figure out a weakness to the Gorosei. And the story needs time to develop the beginning of the strawhat grand fleet and the future enemies (other pirates, Imu & God Knights, and more Blackbeard lore). A reunion like Team 7 in Naruto please.
The craziest plot twist would be, that Rocks D. Xebec was actually from God Valley and he came back to protect it, but realized he was gonna lose so he locked his only son in a chest to protect him from the war. That son being... Shanks D. Xebec!
They were actually eliminated in the reverse order we met them. We saw Shaka second but his name introduction was after York. Shaka died> York revealed traitor> Pythagoras died> edison supposedly dead> atlas dies> Lilith alive
If time travel Luffy does become a thing, and he's both joyboy and Roger, then the line from Roger about "I wish I could have lived at the same time as you" would be incredible foreshadowing.
Let's also consider the fact that professor Clover was from Ohara. O'Hara is a distinguished Irish surname, with strong connections to Celtic mythology.
I would like if Luffy's mind was, somehow, transported into Joyboy's body in the void century. Like, he is not making the choices, but he is seeing what happened in that era first hand. Because Luffy is not the type of guy that cares about things that are not directly related to him. Heck, he never even heard Nami's backstory (although he discovered during the fight, he was never interested in what happened), and when Jinbei went to them in fishman island he slept through his apology. The only exception was Rayleigh telling what was Roger like, but that's his goal, and being Joy Boy has nothing to do with him (at least in his mind). So getting him into Joy Boy's body, in order to him actually understand the situation, while giving us a detailed story about that era, but never letting him change anything so it wouldn't create any loop holes would be pretty cool.
To be honest, it's quite interesting that Roger had that same straw hat Imu has in his freezer vault at THE BEGINNING of his journey... This can't be a coincidence
Bonnie transforming into the future version of Kuma that he would have grown into if he hadn't sacrificed himself for her to defeat Saturn would be perfect.
I think for joyboys followers get stronger based on how intense the music is i would not be surprised if we find out the entire crew of joyboy was a band that would play the music of liberation causing everyone fighting to basically get a buff kinda like in monster hunter with hunting horns especially because music is such a powerful tool for emotion
Shanks is the norse god Tyr, the god of justice. The giants are supposed to be ruled over by Loki, the Jotuns the giants are the creatures of chaos, of untamed power and the origin of chaos. The creatures/monsters that are the Gorosei are like norse mythology and ragnarok. Then Luffy would be Freyr and his best of ships Skidbladnir
Liam, take notice of this contrived genius theory I've had. Remember when Coby said "Luffy is the only person who can save Zoro" against Captain Morgan and Helmeppo, well, I believe at the end of One Piece, whether Coby is physically present or is instead aware of what's going on, will say "Zoro is the only person who can save Luffy". I think this would be a beautiful build up to the end.
Saying Clover didn’t live the way he wanted, despite building an entire island dedicated to discovering forbidden history…. Then actually cracking the ancient language to a point where a child could understand… Yeah he sure didn’t live the way he wanted to as a perhaps the most successful historian in the story….
I believe vegapunk saw ginny as more than kuma's love. He saw her sharp intelect with which , she called all pirates to god valley and led revolutionary army.
More likely, the spear would be Gáe Dearg if we are sticking to Irish weapons. In traditional legend it is the spear that Diarmuid took on missions/quests that were of life and death importance and inflicts wounds that were cursed to never heal. That would track with being able to permenatly scar the elders.
My thoughts on Time Traveling Luffy: I had none until I watched this video because I was not aware of the theory. The premise seems too inconsistent with the themes of One Piece specifically relating to Luffy, though. Not that any of the concepts are incredulous or unbelievable or instantly dismissed just for seeming crazy or stupid, but because it doesn't track with the overall impression Luffy specifically, and his crew have been pushing through the narrative of the story. Crazy wild time travel paradox predestination theories become convoluted and restricting with how the universe itself works and how a story CAN be told, and not only would Oda not want to put that kind of pressure on himself to adhere to ridiculous guidelines to avoid either loopholes or inconsistencies or simply avoid souring his own preconceived plot points, but the character he created, Luffy, who has an established personality of his own, would not go about doing things in such a way that would make the events play out as they have in the little of the past that we know so far. Especially not at the expense of exploring the future, even knowing that the PAST would be an acceptable alternative, as, an unknown past is just as fresh and exciting and new as an unforeseeable future, the reality is that knowing a little of how events play out during the past, and more importantly knowing how things end up in the present (which would then be part of his new future from the perspective of the past) takes away the thrill of the adventure and takes away Luffy's freedom.
Atlas' appearance tribute to Ginny theory is fire. In addition, Atlas' inspiration were probably because of Ginny, with Large guild like Kuma, Hair of Bonney and Ginny, and White Hair for Bonney's Nika Transformation.
I still have no idea what Toki has accomplished? She traveled to the future, got married, had children then died. what’s the point of creating such character?
She came from the void century, and she didn’t give any information about it. also, any character on the island could’ve been given that power so why give it to someone from the void century?
She sent her son and samurai to the future so they can save Wano from Kaidou and Orochi. She accomplished that. Maybe her fruit will come into play in the future.
