We NEED To Talk about the Avowed Gameplay! 

thanks, time to watch the entirety of it 😎

looking like outer world is not a good thing... outer world is a generic bland game, people remember new vegas but they dont want to remember outer world, this felt like after fallout 1 and 2 we get fallout 3 all over again, its sad

Hello ESO I’ve been wanting you to play Skyrim vr again, but can you please play the dark brotherhood quest I think that would be super cool to watch

@@tahnadana5435people often praise outerworlds, step outside of the hate.

I really liked... i hope the combat its more intricated like Dark Messiah not the trash of bethesda games call combat.

Pretty sure the areas will be a bit bigger

I think its not about how big it is, outerworlds maps just felt empty.

Totally agree with both of you, the maps felt small and empty. Very slightly-less-than-linear experience. Hope this one doesn't feel quite so claustrophobic.

Unfortunately they said that the game was scrapped or whatever and when they restarted they opted for a smaller game. So chances are that it will be a much shorter game vs a BGS rpg like TES, FO, or Starfield. Personally I want the games to be as big and as jammed pack as possible when it comes to legitimate open world rpg’s. Unfortunately it seems that Obsidian is either incapable or just refuses to do so. Don’t get me wrong, the outer worlds had some enjoyable moments but as you said the smaller little worlds with almost nothing of note to find it breaks the immersion. I will definitely be interested in Avowed and The outer worlds 2 but it is a bummer that they wanted to go big with avowed but scrapped it and instead of going with that bigger world idea they went with basically the elder outer worlds. It even looks a lot like the outer worlds. I hope for the best because as a massive BGS Maryland fan (by far my favorite developer) I am never truly satisfied unless the game is that BGS style rpg. And the only other company really making games in that BGS style is in fact Obsidian. Making the outer worlds 2 and avowed much bigger games would go a long way in keeping us satisfied in between BGS games. Especially since they are both xbox now staggering their releases would be awesome. Unfortunately as ai said Avowed won’t be giving you endless hours of exploration and questing like Starfield or TES6 will. That being said if the RPG crowd voices their displeasure with certain elements of Obsidians RPG’s then they can know to actually go bigger and longer in the future.

@@garretthorsch8143 Honestly, the reason no one makes BGS style games is because they are insanely difficult projects to tackle, no one has the guts to pull it off. Even when Obsidian got into that they had to get Bethesda's blessings and borrow much of their stuff. It's just a colossal thing for a studio their size to do alone. I think it's totally understandable that they had to change their plans, I'm still looking forward to it.

Willing to bet we get a direct focused on it.

It's a small game like Outer Worlds.

yep, hoping for an improved and in-depth showing next June for this game. Honestly BGS set a gold standard for game directs, will be hard to match by anyone but hopefully it's a start.

I agree with this

She was in charge of Outer Worlds and I'm just worried that she's cool with goofy writing

⁠@@amethystwyvernyou can tell she was in charge of Outerworlds… Its easy to see that heavily influencing this game and it worries me.

​@@WVRLORDI feel like the general shift was gonna happen anyway. Just depended on how it was rebooted

@@WVRLORD Avowed was rebooted internally. That's why there is a tone & scale shift

The models look great especially facial animations

Looks way better than anything Bethesda has done recently

Other then vegas they've never made anything better then starfield ​@worldsmostphlegmaticman

This

Agree. I didn't love the outer worlds. After 100%ing it i felt like I was left still hungry for more. The story and chars were fun but the world just felt too empty. Semi open worlds when done well feel fully open. They suspend your belief enough that you don't notice the map is finite, however TOWs map pieces were very empty. With any luck they listened to the players and took our advice and gripes to heart.

Looks like a Gothic game

You just don't know what POE/2 are.

If they allow mods into this, any and all worries about the art style can be gone because as we know, that can be changed.

100% for me

I'm still in

@@roddbroward9876 it’s an obsidian game so I’m still going to play it, I’m just not as excited to play it like I was

Didn’t drop the ball they never had their hands on the ball to begin with.

@@PSNerd-ki3uj it’s true it did give that impression, and I fell for it a little too. But seeing what they’ve come up with I understand now the trailer had no relation with any reality or true intention. Stuff in the vein of Outer Worlds is all this studio is capable of making and it’s all they want to make. It’s too distinctive an approach to be called a fumble.

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking from watching the showcase. I love the Dark Messiah style of gameplay, if it's even close to that I'm already sold.

Yeah, Dark Messiah was an amazing game.

Although i disagree about the guns, I share the same feelings about this game. People give obsidian way too much credit for getting lucky on fnv. They're capable sure but it seems like they can't make anything original.

This game is pillars of Eternity in first person. Either check out pillars or forget about the game. Game has guns in it and magic and it works perfectly but your a newbie so you wouldn't understand at all.

​@@bombyo3634I am excited, the pillars of eternity games was awesome in my opinion.

This looks nothing like pillars except for the artstyle.. there's no showcase of in-depth dialogue system and creative combat beyond hack and slash

Yup plus no Bethesda funding

The spells get dope in pillars of eternity. They got necromancer type spells where you can revive or pull 5 skeletons out the ground. They got one where you can summon tornadoes blizzards meteor showers. There’s one where you take control of their mind and they fight for you or opposite they take control of your companions mind and they start fighting you. Pillars is sooo good if they half half of it in this game gonna be good

I used to feel the same way but I have come around. Firearms existed in the high medieval period for quite a while before the tech outpaced plate armor. If you have rapiers in a setting you should also see some guns IMO

@@Neverwas_one yeah but it’s not my jam lol but I’m biased. I want every fantasy setting to be as close to Lotr as possible 😂

@@Neverwas_one was about to say the same

@@Brian_Sleesman Fair preference.

there's also in-lore reasons why guns were invented in the first place

Agreed 👍

High fantasy doesn't refer to art style. High fantasy is is a subgenre of fantasy and has dragons and magic and castles oh my. Dungeons and dragons is high fantasy. Level of color is not a trait of high fantasy - it is a sub genre of fantasy and has been for several decades.

​@@Beerdwolf I see little difference between the two, it's mostly just comes down to presentation. When people think of high fantasy, they think Harry Potter, when people think dark fantasy, they think LOTR.

@@GrimDim Good thing you don't speak for all people. I do not think of Harry Potter when I think of a high fantasy setting. Nor do I think of LOTR when I think of dark fantasy.

@@GrimDim What people are you referring to? That distinction makes no sense.

Um....no. There is no High Fantasy vs Dark Fantasy dichotomy. There's High Fantasy vs Low Fantasy, which relates to how many fantastical elements are in play.

Having a grimoire (book) in a hand while casting is a wizard thing. Violet is usually associated with chiper magic, but the gravitagional magic was probably the spell Pull of Eora that is a powerful wizard spell in Pillars 1 and 2

@@fulvio3211 Clearly I'll need to replay Pillars 1 and 2 before Avowed drops; it's been a while.

@@AretaicGames ehehe i finished the second just a few months ago so I have a fresh memory

honestly i think it would be interesting (imagine world pvp based on the region you come from or something), but i don't think an MMO developer would ever do it justice. there is a _lot_ to explore in this setting and most MMOs go off a very bland and surface level design philosophy. like, great and ancient ruins would be reduced to a raid or some shit, rare and secret information would be a fucking daily quest. i know MMOs could be better, but they often just aren't.

Yeah, it's a newer visual trend. Just like everything was grey and brown until a couple years ago.

Its June... what do you expect lmao. its gay and happy🤣

@@mattshaw4016 LOL. Good one bro xD

Getting a bit tired of overly bright and colorful, probably getting old but even as i kid i preferred the darker toned colors.

@@felixdumbravescu2725 Yes, these colors are too bright.

i don't see how you even could. this takes places in the living lands with a different protagonist

All combat related is weak in Skyrim

@@TheKestevon Skyrim's combat system's only saving graces were the cinematic finishers and the vampire/werewolf transformation combat

Enchanted weapons in the Pillars series typically reflect their enchantments in their appearance. I'd reckon that the guns looked that way simply because they were enchanted, not because they're linked to the magic system in any way.

@@umbreezy9117 oh okay. Interesting. Thank you. I know nothing about the Pillars series

​@@joebuckley2180well go look it up literally. Guns have nothing to do with magic their just guns. Probably enchanted with something.

Exactly! People like Skillup are just lazy.

No. POE1 had a dreary art style that lent itself to it's grimdark setting.

@@synapse913 not poe2 though. So its obvious their direction was more bright.

@@Razahoo7 You said "both Pillars games." Don't go shifting the goalposts here.

there's only one way to truly know. Play the game.

We'll have to wait and see. I'm still excited for this, but this just tempers expectations. It's probably a reasonable adjustment considering the team size and development time. (Yes, the team is bigger, but it would still take time to have an impact on the games they develop). If the zones are large enough and transition is handled well, it won't be an issue.

They are not allowed to make a game that can beat their other studios, they were asked to change the game into a different direction to make sure Bethesda in top dog

I just wanted another Skyrim.

Bro they punked us. Obsidian is messing around

Why you literally see no gameplay

@@echotapout183 bc the second looks ass the colors and models look horrible

Also, not sure if it's just me, the casting and launching of the spells looks great, the actual impact, specially the fire or explosions seems borderline horrible

Then you will likely love Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity series, which take place in the same world as Avowed. Gameplay is significantly different though.

Maybe for the second game but sailing a boat 1st person nahhh too much for their first big game. I beat dead fire and for it to be anything like that they better do it right

Lol bro get your head out of the clouds

i don't think most people are noticing it being bright, they are noticing the lighting engine or something not working properly and thinking it is the art style. when i actually stopped to look at the mushroom field it was off in a way that suggest more than just a different art direction for that area.

No classes, only 2 races. Gonna be more like outer worlds is my estimate

@@tev0tv The CGI trailer sold it as AAA game base on PoE ...which I think is based on pathfinder. That's crazy deep on classes,race, history,world building and all the RPG elements gamers love. Now we are told they don't have the resources to do that, 2 races, small zones. You are right. It's crazy, I don't believe you have to have Skyrim size, but outer worlds biggest failure was size and deep to the world. That is not moving forward.

@@danburke6568 POE isn't based on pathfinder? they made their own system

@@comyuse9103 No it's pathfinder, 1E. Current pathfinder is 2E. Classes/powers are 1E. I play it on the pc, then pick up the 2E roleplay book and it's the older rules.

@@danburke6568 no, it isn't. the devs literally talk about creating their own system and avoiding the pitfalls of TTRPGs. and there is no cypher in pathfinder (there is a psychic, but its different to cypher), no class has per-encounter resources in pathfinder either.