I really like this coaches style on coaching. He asks the client "what's coming up next or where are we going now?". This allows the client to really think about his movements and is basically a hands-on experience. Well selected coach Neace!
26:34 When I saw this guy heal up for half hp there I thought like "yo wtf is that heal". Then looked at Neace and he was like "yo wtf" too xD made me laugh
I love how NEACE is growing. Years ago, before and after Fortnite, he woulnd't get like more than 10k views for a month, now he gets 100k on one video too! KEEP IT GOING NEACE, HARD WORK IS FINALLY PAYING OFF!
I love it. Coach: You did a mistake again. Client: Ye i used e to early. Coach: Ye, good jobb!. Thats potive reienforcment if i ever seen some. Love the blance off critisism and positiv reienforcment!
Shyvana can clear all six camps without a leash before scuttle spawns with proper clearing techniques. Check out Citric’s demonstration on how to do it if you wanna learn how to play Shyvana. General gist: start red, e it, hit it four times point blank, then start kiting it back to krugs. Smite the big one immediately when you see it, e both krugs and finish the big one off. Keep your W on. Finish the first medium krug. Then when the last two medium ones spawn, e them, try to hit the babies, and alternate autos between the two krugs. Your w will burn them down the rest of the way. Should kill the babies too. Next, Raptors. Hit one small to line them up, use your e, then wait 3 seconds and hit the big one as you wait. This is because of the way talisman works, you’ll get the healing effect. Then use your w. That will finish off the smalls. You can pot after this, and you’ll have access to your Q now. Wolves, walk to the side wall and hit all three with your e. Then use your w to damage the small ones and hit only the big one with autos. If the small wolves survive, kill them while you’re kiting over to blue. Combo your blue (e+w+AA+Q) and hit it till your e runs out. Then kite it over to gromp and use your w to tickle gromp and aggro it over to you. Remember to keep hitting blue to maintain your w duration. Once you have both lined up, use your e, AA + Q blue once and your w will finish it off. Keep hitting gromp and combo it over and over until it dies. Hold smite for scuttle. If you’re fast enough, you should have six camps by 3:15. Go to scuttle and smite it as soon as you can kill it. (Smite does 450 damage at level 4.)
hey, neace you should do a "where are they now" to the people you coach. If they like it. It will not only be great content but we can either learn from them further or try to avoid their mistakes and stuff :)
I used to watch you on twitch at my first year of uni in lectures when you had like a few hundred viewers and mad sub ratio, now you're popping off with a coaching site feelsgoodman gg :D Also this is sick content
Really cool dude! Good work expanding the business and I hope it’ll go great for you :) I hope when you expand and get some more coaches that you can decrease the price so students like myself can afford coaching sessions hehe ;)
Yes! But don't let this video or the anxiety hold you back. Both coaches are obviously at much higher ELO than the player. The player was, justifiably, making a ton of mistakes and the coaches are pointing all of them out as he plays. He can start climbing by just focusing on a few of them at a time (e.g. if he clears more efficiently, he'd out level his opponents more often and just let him win team fights for free)
As a top lane main, I started enjoying being jungle auto filled when I started watching Neace videos, after a while you realize jungling is just punishing people’s mistakes, and you won’t know mistakes unless you have experience playing lanes
@@mariodamato8014 it’s the worst role. Sometimes you can’t control your Laners from inting and blaming it all on you. Whenever things go south, junglers are first to blame for many times no reason. When things go well, junglers never get the credit. It’s a role you go in if you hate yourself xD
@@TheLayZTaco first of all, I can't really say I don't hate myself ahaha. Jokes apart, idc what laners say in my elo (S1) because they barely know their own role let alone mine, I mute all and I do me. And atm I have 61% wr, I'm much more focused this way!
Neace. Been here since your channel was just budding up, watched you even after I left league and now coming back and seeing you financially soaring I'm proud and happy for you.
I cant be the only one who thinks coaching a clash/ranked flex 5 man team on their overall team gameplay would be a really really interesting concept. My and my boys don't play much ranked solos and prefer to all play together to coaching for a team would be really cool and informative to watch. Im not sure if many people would agree though as im aware more people enjoy this game more solo
most people disagree because its useless to coach a 'team' before master level. People first have to all on their own understand the game before trying to make it as a group
Neace did do this before and he said that often you have some weak links in the group and its kinda useless because those weak links have problems with fundamentals and as such as holding the others back with their shitty plays and decision making. Now obviously if they are all great players it would be different
If finding 4 other people with similar schedule, skill level and their roles all fit in one team AND they all get along with each other isn't so freaking hard I won't be playing solo. Coaching would be fun. It wouldn't be dissimilar to coaching a sport team.
I absolutely love Shyv one of my favourite champions on LoL. Played her AP season 10 jungle and with S11 changes her AD/tanky build works well too and love the flex! This video really helped me grasp the newish pathing and build sequence for her in the jungle and I’ll definitely be running this again instead of spamming Hecarim!! Neace helped me through his channel go from Iron to Silver last season.
I like this coach ALOT, he uses questions to help you see patterns, instead of shouting audibles in the moment and then reviewing after the game, it’s a cool coaching style!
Collin seems like a good coach. He asks to see if the client is understanding why hes doing something, and explaining why if he doesn't understand. I say he goes far
Man I am so happy youre expaning. You deserve the success, youve been grinding hard. I wish I could offer like free website design or something to help you with coaching set ups and stuff but you are putting out quality content friend!
I think these are actually really funny, you’ve got the guy getting coached who’s nervous from people coaching him, then you have the other coach coaching him who’s nervous of neace cause he’s the boss, and then there’s neace and he’s just like god
I adore your channel Sir. Can't wait to get my salary to get some coaching sessions with you. What you do is exactly like that saying "Give a man a fish and you feed him are a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
He's allright! Not gunna hate on him or anything, but would be nice to hear some of his game plan with the champ in relation to the client, but also more importantly his thoughts on the game as a whole around jungle and what to do in general as opposed to " do this more efficiently"" and "do that", more of like why we would do that. Idk maybe i'm just picky from watching hundreds of coachings from dad>.
Another quality video, as always. ) You know what would be really helpful? A coaching session for someone who gets filled to Support role. It's possible that most people climbing would probably dodge such a game, but sometimes you can't. I would love to know my purpose in life as a support who wants to win despite my ADC being "trash." Let's see a video on that. School me, Neace! D
client needs to use those plants in the jungle. They can seriously speed up his mobility. The ammount of times he walked around to get to blue buff or another camp was unsettling
Love the editing I was just wondering if you could link the specific coaching session that these games were from so that we can watch the entire session as opposed to just one of the games? keep up the great work!
one side note here: I feel like lucidity boots give SO MUCH value to ap shyv. CDR is litterally a gift from god when your 1v9 skill is your E which has a pretty decent cooldown. even on 40% cdr ( 68 haste ) it has 5 sec. Getting 0.5 sec off is quite a bit. It may be even more. together with lucidity costing 200 gold less which is A LOT. I just love them. Maybe I'm wrong though. and the 20% haste isn't enough.
Can you do an anivia centric guide? Shes super simple to play, onus is on farming and controlling team fights and you can easily push waves to quickly restructure the map pressure.
Neace Ive been watching your videos for a hot minute and you said you like easy builds for climbing. I have found that for jg, turbo chemtank chogath with predator has made it very easy to take over games. you get to build full tank going for like a deadmans plate, force of nature, and various other tank items to fill out the build. if your team has enough engage i find that predator (to help with still getting in as needed) with a frozen fist can yield even better results but in lower elo the chemtank allows for repeat abusive ganking for poor positioning rotating chemtank and predator cooldowns. i dont even take flash at this point ghost can allow for infinite gank time as well as following flashes for a feast. his clear is very fast and healthy and his ultimate doubles to secure objectives with smite as well as having infinite scaling off of epic monsters with feast.
I think with his play style of jumping in and staying there, he might benefit from a build I like. Been playing Shyvana for a few years and this is something I’ve come up with for the new items. Goredrinker, Ravenous Hydra, Sorc boots, into situational stuff. With PTA rune tree. This build let’s you jump into a team and stay in it. Also the Hydra change is big for aoe burst. And it has big omnivamp and AH. Sorc boots because a lot of your ad that you build is still converted to ap damage. W, E, and R all do purely ap damage, but W and E have ad scaling alongside the ap. Also, even when I’m doing this I still max E first and my preferred grievous wound option is Morrelo
So I just finished watching your how to get out of your elo mid, and was wondering if your opinion on Heimerdinger has changed any? I picked him up recently and love playing him lol
Good coaching, but I think that a lot of the uncertainty in movements and macro-decisions come from the questions the other coach asked him. The guy is playing the game, has the stream dbuff, and obviously is just "learning to play". The questions, to which he doesnt know the answers of, are making him insecure, because he has to guess or think for too long. When you (Neace) coach, the instructions are always cristal clear. Like the guy is not stupid. He is going to realise why you make him do something, but it takes a lot of pressure away. Part of why I love your coachings is because I am a student at university to become a highschool teacher in germany. :D
Sorry but you are wrong. He is using very good metacognition teaching technique. Rather than spoon feed him the answer, he's getting him to think about it make links between each decisions/play. That is the most efficient teaching approach. Humans are lazy and we're not very good at making those efforts ourselves when we have the lazy option laid out for us.
Yes but in long run its better to make client think and then correct his thinking and explain than give good instructions what to do at the moment. Coaching is about learning not wining.
Feels bad when you have to contest scuttle not just from the enemy jungler, but from your entire team as well. Edit: damn, not just the scuttle, but your own freakin camps, too.
O morgana not understanding blue buff and getting salty lol. Also this new coach is great I might get some coaching by him myself, could you please get more videos of his coaching up?
He is a good coach but, also when you are teaching something its important to not overwhelm the student give them some air assimilate. I like the way of making the student think and be part of the learning process.
Neace letting one rip at 20:37 and then stuggling to play it cool is just the thing I needed today! You can see it in his eyes when he realises he forgot he was on stream. Edit: after further forensic analisys, that may be the voice cracking from the dude getting coached but nevertheless combined with neace lifting himself off to air it out is pure gold.
So like, this may be me being stupid, but isn’t rocketbelt strictly better than night harvester? Yeah you don’t get the cooldown on each champion burst, but everyone you hit with the rockets takes the same burst as night harvester, plus you gain an extra 50 hp, 5% more movement speed than night harvester (towards enemy champs), and the utility of a dash, the only strict benefit I see is the mythic passive of 5 ability haste, but in exchange you get 5 magic pen so, technically even more damage? Is it worth that trade off?
@@zac1443 I guess I don’t agree, but like, I’m trash so I could just be stubborn and wrong tbh, thanks though I’ll keep that in mind and try it on more teamfight oriented champs
I have played shyv a few times but didnt know how damn strong she could be! So honestly im pickin her up.. I dont like dark harvest tho, is there any other runes that works? I was thinking about a more bruisery build with rylais and phase rush
Im shitty elo jungler but i think there were made some mistakes. I belive in that perfect and optimum fast clear gives huge advatnage on early game (like you are faster on Crab so its easier to make vison or start it so you have little advantage, with other champions you can gank before other jungler, you can do full clears way faster than other jugnler) that idea was not explained. Also client makes mistake which is not corrected im mean that big rapotr does same dmg as small one (so "baby raptors" do more dmg in total) so on non AoE dmg junglers its very important to attack smaller ones first and then big one or skipping that camp totally. Also i heard like smiting Red buff is a mistake cause he has minus armor and its more efficient to smite krags. Also client dosent know how to bug Krags so you take dmg just from the big one ( you stand in front of one and other one tries to reach you), taking scuttle or not on other junglers is also diffrent thing, like on amumu i think its better to skip them (you have small dmg so i takes long time on begining and you are pretty fragile). I think when client makes clear mistakes (bad kiting is worse than non kiting) he should be reminded how to do it corectly all the time cause making camps fast is still important in mid game (you have more time to do stuff and they respawn faster). Clear is constant, ganks and other lane situation is always diffretnt so its good to perfect this what you do always in games. Also side camps like gromp and krags give more xp than wolves and raptors so its more important to clear them, so if you do only raptors and wolves you are skipping xp, if there is no deeper idea to do this on purpose you are just behind. Wouldnt it be better to start with client in practice tool and tell him to full clear jgl and correct his way of thinking and explain how to take every camp and why? I dont want to sound like a douche or i dont want to show like im better or something, just i pointend things which i would like to learn as client. Also i loved that coach asks questions like "why you think we did that?" its teaching us how to think by ourselfs in game and corrects client way of thinking and coaching in total was very, very good. It would be great if you could post some more of Colin (other coach) videos if he agrees.
i don't know what to do to improve... Watching replays / videos is what i do but i can't improve!! And when i take a decision in game im almost always 100% sure its correct (even if i know it isnt because by that logic i would be challenger)
Pick 1 or 2 Champs. Find a really high elo streamer who mains them. Watch his vods. Write down matchups and how they play in different team vs team constellations. Focus on one thing at a time, like one time you watch the match Up, other time the wavecontroll, other time the macro. Always pause when they base to guess where they going.
@@jansettler4828 eh but i really don't enjoy playing her.. I have 750k mastery points on fizz and the other midlaners i play are: Ryze, xerath, annie, veigar, i also play teemo and gnar midlane on normal games sometimes xD