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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 3 дня назад
What's your favorite book and why is it actually Travels with Trolls?
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 дня назад
Goblet of fire! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 So epic. Loved the TWISTS
@SilkBuckets
@SilkBuckets 3 дня назад
jokes on you, its actually Year with the Yeti
@toribellmar7623
@toribellmar7623 3 дня назад
hot take but it’s actually wanderings with werewolves 😉
@Anza2700
@Anza2700 3 дня назад
Wagical We by WILDEROY SLINKHEART
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 3 дня назад
Sorry, I'm a Gadding With Ghouls man through and through.
@mollyhorrell9307
@mollyhorrell9307 3 дня назад
Let’s remember Harry isn’t just a moody 15 year old in OOTP - he’s literally suffering from PTSD after the graveyard! Watching Cedric die, seeing his parents - Wormtail cutting off his hand would be traumatizing enough. Then he has to return to an abusive household and kept in the dark for months. Would be enough to turn anyone “angsty”. Really he’s just been traumatized!
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 2 дня назад
Traumatized and then left alone to deal with it in isolation!!! And then victim-blamed and not believed and targeted by practically the whole Wizarding world!!!!
@karenb4577
@karenb4577 2 дня назад
So true!!! Poor guy has had traumatic experiences each year at Hogwarts up till then, and quite possibly the worst until book 7! And that’s not mentioning his poor excuse of a childhood. Harry came into Hogwarts with PTSD, and it’s only been compounded since then. Plus puberty. Can’t forget that. Harry (and everyone else) needs to visit a Wizard therapist. I’m honestly quite proud of Harry handling everything as well as he did.
@randomnerdery6511
@randomnerdery6511 2 дня назад
Doesn't change the faxt that book 5 is still a slog.
@katywolffis7678
@katywolffis7678 2 дня назад
Not to mention lack of sleep from nightmares, having to relive trauma again and again through his “lessons” with Snape, being tortured by Umbridge and gaslit by the entire wizarding community, and deprived of his favorite activities like Quidditch. Yeah I think I’d be a bit angsty and peeved too. But Order shows the power of standing up for the truth and what the consequences of that could be. It’s one of the most psychologically deep books out of the series.
@mollyhorrell9307
@mollyhorrell9307 2 дня назад
⁠​⁠@@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 YES, the victim-blaming is so frustrating!
@nicoleb581
@nicoleb581 3 дня назад
Book 1: 01:32 Book 2: 12:54 Book 3: 22:58 Book 4: 35:22 Book 5: 45:04 Book 6: 56:23 Book 7: 1:09:30
@RockyRZ
@RockyRZ 3 дня назад
Appreciate it
@schwartzcenter93
@schwartzcenter93 3 дня назад
Thanks!
@manodipanmahakuda5630
@manodipanmahakuda5630 2 дня назад
thanks mate
@ArmstrongEA
@ArmstrongEA 2 дня назад
You. Are. My. Hero!
@TolliverHiker
@TolliverHiker День назад
More valuable than Jury duty 😂👏👏👏
@robsooooz
@robsooooz 2 дня назад
Got the craziest Ad timing ever watching this video: The clip of Hedwig dying happened then immediately an Ad started for Stouffer’s Food saying “Hmm Whats for Dinner?”
@PotterGeek0731
@PotterGeek0731 2 дня назад
Oh my word!
@michaela8426
@michaela8426 2 дня назад
Chicken
@theycallmejodamo
@theycallmejodamo День назад
The algorithm shows you the deepest desires of your… stomach?
@UncleSmiley96
@UncleSmiley96 День назад
Lol
@juliajohnson4080
@juliajohnson4080 День назад
That’s hilariously dark 😂😭🦉
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 3 дня назад
One detail about Horace Slughorn that I want people to remember: he, a consummate Slytherin, duelled Voldemort alongside McGonagall and Kingsley. When the critical moment came, he stepped up to fight the most lethal wizard in the world. Respect.
@patrickmohr6985
@patrickmohr6985 2 дня назад
Love that. Thank you for mentioning it.
@tylarjackson7928
@tylarjackson7928 2 дня назад
Man, why does stuff like this make me teary-eyed? Geez louise
@Kupferhans
@Kupferhans 2 дня назад
Yeah, Slughorn represents the "good" version of the Slytherin "values". Yes he is elitist, looks for his own advantage and is a bit manipulative. But he also connects other people he believes are talented, presents them opportunities, builds lifelong connections and has moral values that he puts first when it really matters.
@forestgrump4723
@forestgrump4723 2 дня назад
It goes to show slytherins are not all evil. Ambition doesn’t mean evil
@BoHorn
@BoHorn 2 дня назад
People sorting themselves into slytherin on pottermore has really given people rose colored glasses when it comes to the house. Slughorn being against Voldemort doesnt even really make him a good person when you consider they wanted him dead, it wouldnt even make him a good person if they wanted him alive. Opposing a bluntly evil and irredeemable character that basically represents an end to the world as it stands isnt even a virtue, how low must we stoop to give slytherin something to feel noble about?
@00juls00
@00juls00 3 дня назад
How hilarious is it that it took an entire school year for the Ministry of Magic to decide whether one Hippogryph would die or not, and the crime was barely scratching a student. 😂 The amount of time that wasted for so many wizard adults.
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 2 дня назад
Beurocracy at its finest.
@AshCox-u2k
@AshCox-u2k 2 дня назад
Well have you seen how long it takes governments to do things in the real world? The ministry were efficient in comparison lol
@mrgreatauk
@mrgreatauk 2 дня назад
Very efficient compared to actual muggle governments lol
@BoHorn
@BoHorn 2 дня назад
As others have said its in keeping with our world. But also ask yourself this: if its as small and unimportant as one hippogryphs execution over a small injury, wouldnt that make it a non-urgent issue? If my boat had a bunch of leaky holes in it my first thought wouldnt be to polish the mast.
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 дня назад
It's even funnier in the movie because Buckbeak doesn't even scratch Draco, he just pushes him. They thought that was a crime punishable by death.
@jessylee9202
@jessylee9202 2 дня назад
"teach your son better villany dude" is gold, I really don't know how Lucius lives with himself
@PotterGeek0731
@PotterGeek0731 2 дня назад
Okay this sounds like that scene in movie 7 part 2 where Voldemort asks him the same question but I totally agree!
@jessylee9202
@jessylee9202 2 дня назад
​@@PotterGeek0731lol that's what I was going for, I should of put (in Voldemort voice) in brackets
@PotterGeek0731
@PotterGeek0731 2 дня назад
@@jessylee9202 “How can you live with yourself Lucius?” “I don’t know…”
@kevinalston5441
@kevinalston5441 2 дня назад
I always read when the professors tell Lockhart to deal with the chamber as "You play over there while the grownups talk." Harry being 12 just misunderstood their meaning.
@projectnightfall6882
@projectnightfall6882 2 дня назад
It's also worth considering the reason they weren't racing to save Ginny is that the message heavily implied she was already dead. Their duty of care was to the other students.
@toriandtilly
@toriandtilly 2 дня назад
Oh 100% it was exactly that! Maybe even hoping that he would run like he tries to do so they won't have to deal with him being in their way
@kevinalston5441
@kevinalston5441 День назад
@projectnightfall6882 which definitely fits which the grownups are talking
@Vi_Vi_1
@Vi_Vi_1 День назад
Same, I always read that as them getting rid of the distraction so they could focus on the real work, with Harry and Ron just not picking up on that because they're kids. The fact that they don't end up in the Chamber with them doesn't mean they just went to bed, just that they were caring for other students and formulating a plan (which would be tricky!)
@Want300
@Want300 День назад
I paused the video to come say this. The other professors didn't even know Ron and Harry were there with info, they hid in the closet during the whole conversation with Lockhart.
@endoftheline8061
@endoftheline8061 2 дня назад
I think Harry's attitude in OotP is very overstated. He has extremely good reasons to be angry too. But he gets called out more than once and relaxes afterward. Kid's pretty reasonable despite massive PTSD and having a world's worth of stress on his shoulders.
@RealGaIaxy
@RealGaIaxy День назад
Fr I'm on it rn and Hermione is constantly calling him out
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 3 дня назад
The reason Umbridge is so triggering is that she represents the kind of petty, bureaucratic evil we've all experienced. There really aren't supervillains like Voldemort, but reading HOA stories on Reddit tells you there are Umbridges everywhere.
@chrisconcannon6490
@chrisconcannon6490 3 дня назад
That's my take as well. The worst part for me is that if you just read the books and none of the supplemental stuff, Umbridge basically gets away with everything she did. She apparently didn't even lose her job and was given free rein to purge muggleborns and anyone else she deemed "unworthy" of having magic after Voldemort took over. I know the supplemental stuff says she was eventually hauled off to Azkaban, but my personal favorite head canon of her fate is that the dementors she brought with her for "protection" when she was interrogating muggleborns (and others she thought "undesirable") had a little snack after Harry knocked her unconscious and the trio got away. After what she tried to do to Harry two years before, I think it would have been poetic justice for her to get the Dementor's Kiss from the very dementors she was using to "protect" her.
@strongbraveloud
@strongbraveloud 2 дня назад
IS DOLORES A MAGICAL KAREN?
@chuckled125
@chuckled125 2 дня назад
they bring this up just about every time they talk abour Umbridge, I'm surprised it didn't come up here
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k 3 дня назад
Video idea: What if Lucius Malfoy sent the diary with Ron instead of Ginny his first year? (i.e. the same year the Hogwarts staff is hiding the Philosopher’s Stone) What would it have been like for Harry essentially dealing with both the plots of the first two books his first year?
@nilenas44
@nilenas44 3 дня назад
Petition to this comment
@antonypost19
@antonypost19 3 дня назад
Too specific of a concept imo. You just trying to merge two different plot lines into one book on top of who the plot affected...you pretty much just rewrite the whole series at that point
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k 3 дня назад
@@antonypost19I disagree. With the risks associated with the monster, where would the stone go? Where would Harry meet Quirrel/Voldemort? Could he defeat the basilisk, diary Riddle, Quirrel, and Voldemort all at once his first year? Would Voldemort prime reunite with his former self? Does Lucius rejoin Voldemort earlier? Would Flamel stay alive? There are a ton of questions this scenario brings up
@antonypost19
@antonypost19 3 дня назад
@@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k exactly my point 🤦‍♂️. It's too convoluted to come up with an actual story that would still make sense for the rest of the series to happen.
@antonypost19
@antonypost19 3 дня назад
@@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k notice how it all the bothers "what if" videos, the books still end up having the same overall ending as far as plot points. What you're suggesting is just a completely different story altogether
@cassifush6817
@cassifush6817 3 дня назад
in regards to lockheart, they don’t actually expect him to do anything. They can’t do anything because no one knows where the chamber is, them telling him to save ginny (since he has proclaimed he knows where it is) is them calling his bluff to make him leave. it’s to get him out of the way. Why do ron and harry think he’s going to do anything? that i don’t know.
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 22 часа назад
Because they are very young students who expect adults to know what they are doing. They are so callow that Lockhart must elaborate in detail the nature of his villainy. Only then do they see how terrible he is.
@lmungillo
@lmungillo 3 дня назад
Growing up, I 10,000% thought Harry’s dragon was gonna be Norbert! Missed opportunity
@nathanwinning8331
@nathanwinning8331 2 дня назад
The best way I can articulate my feelings on the first book is when you're replaying your favorite videos game and you have to go back through the tutorial at the beginning just anxious for the beef of the story to kick off
@Calpurnia917
@Calpurnia917 2 дня назад
I read HBP in one night, while working as an archaeologist in Poland. I remember having a deep conversation the next day with a fellow arch while mourning Dumbledore. That moment is still a core memory for me. ❤
@c.c.walker
@c.c.walker 3 дня назад
1:24:47 - going along with your marauders/golden trio+co parallels, i’ve always felt like draco sort of mirrored regulus! both were raised to be death eaters, both realized their wrongs only after they were in too deep. however brave he was, it was too late for regulus to do anything but die a hero. draco, on the other hand, got the chance to grow and become a good man. this also adds a whole new layer to narcissa’s fear for draco - regulus was her little cousin, she’s seen firsthand how dangerous it is to be “just a boy”.
@MatSjo
@MatSjo 2 дня назад
Nah dude, Regulus realises that he was in the wrong sure. But Draco (and the whole Malfoy family) just falls out of grace with Voldemort and just acts out of self preservation.
@c.c.walker
@c.c.walker 2 дня назад
@@MatSjo no yeah i completely agree that regulus had a full redemption, my point is that he didn’t get to live past it. draco might not have had a complete redemption arc, but he does have the opportunity to grow up and grow into it, and i would argue that he does show signs of this in deathly hallows when he refuses to identify harry for bellatrix. in that situation, it was in his best interest to give the trio up, but he knew it was wrong and so he kept his mouth shut. obviously he has a long way to go! but he actually gets to live it out, unlike regulus.
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 2 дня назад
Man... am I the only one whose favorite book is Order of the Phoenix?? I genuinely love the complex array of emotions that book makes me genuonely feel, from hatred and disgust for Umbridge and the ministry to pity for Cho and especially Harry and respect for Hermione and Harry and all the members of DA. I also absolutely love the DA and Harry's real time in the sun as not just someone who's overcoming these obstacles through luck or circumstance but it being shown that he does have this genuine skill in this area in addition to the circumstances around him. I just love that book and could gush about it forever
@HaveABiscuit
@HaveABiscuit 2 дня назад
💯 I'm on your side! I feel like people didn't like it because "Harry was so angry", but as someone who experienced death at a young age, I really related to hin in that book. Plus, there is so much emphasis on the other characters, which was fun. And the DA...come on people! Man, I must have read that book a thousand times!!
@김진희-e3q
@김진희-e3q 2 дня назад
You're not the only one! My favorite is Order of the Phoenix too, though Prisoner is really good to.
@anamiyashita444
@anamiyashita444 2 дня назад
Not the only one. That is one of my favorite books. Also maybe because I have more personal memories attached to it. I borrowed first 4 books to read from a friend. 5th one didn't come out yet. I was saving pocket money to buy it as I barely had any allowance from parents. I think it took me half a year to get the money and I had a special discount coupon for book purchase on the first day. After I bought it, I read it in 1 day. I was reading all day until 6am next morning. My mom woke up and was mad at me when I literally had last chapter to read. I finished the last chapter while sitting at the last desk at geography class while hiding the book behind the geography textbook. And boy I hated umbridge, but I didn't mind the feeling as I was so invested in the book. Also I was proud of myself finishing a 600page book as a high schooler.
@randomnerdery6511
@randomnerdery6511 2 дня назад
Y'all're weird, man... OotP ACTIVELY makes me angry. During the years I was actively re-reading the series, I would get so bummed when I would finish GoF & realize that OotP was next & every time I would consider abandoning the re-read or skipping OotP, but I would end up re-reading it & EVERY... TIME... I hated every page. Its just such a slog & unpleasant.
@Emma-Ghanima
@Emma-Ghanima 2 дня назад
5th is my favorite as well !!! 💙🩵
@MrEvanNoyes
@MrEvanNoyes 3 дня назад
I’ve read/ listened to this series atleast 100 times by now and I genuinely can not come up with a list for this. Each book that I think of has to be in the top 3 and I’ve come to the conclusion that I love them all the same.
@XeiDaMoKaFE
@XeiDaMoKaFE 3 дня назад
i've listen to the audiobooks at least 100 too and definitely have favorites , its not something i can tell you the list , its more like chapter by chapter
@tylarjackson7928
@tylarjackson7928 2 дня назад
I know Prisoner is my favorite, but after that it's a 6 way tie for 2nd.
@jensvandegenachte8946
@jensvandegenachte8946 2 дня назад
I love the line: “i think you are trying to give more meaning to it than originally intended” at around 12:45. Basically a summary of the channel😂 Love the video’s guys!
@anthonyhodgson825
@anthonyhodgson825 3 дня назад
Fawkes showing up wasn’t a fluke. Dumbledor has the light put outer. So he can hear when people are talking about him by name. Which Harry does while talking to diary Voldemort.
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc 3 дня назад
That is a great point. To me, one clarification. You can hear when your name is used by those who you care for. I say this because Ron heard Hermione use his name.
@SAP712.SIMS4
@SAP712.SIMS4 2 дня назад
MIND BLOWN
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 2 дня назад
it isnt as much as fluke or not that he is but how much he does. Only cure to venom that is one of few things that can destroy horcrux and was able to blind snake and bring sword to the place that was not reachable by ghost
@MarkHogan994
@MarkHogan994 2 дня назад
It's called the deluminator, lol.
@MOE-db8oc
@MOE-db8oc 2 дня назад
@@MarkHogan994 We silly muggles. We just don’t get all the terms right sometimes.
@insertclevernamehere1186
@insertclevernamehere1186 3 дня назад
You know, I just realized that the Mirror of Erised's protection of the stone can be pretty easily overcome by Voldemort if Quirell left the chamber undetected and came back the next night with a student. He then threatens to kill said student's family and/or friends if they don't retrieve the stone from the mirror. Now that student has a desire to find the stone but not use it, in order to save their loved ones.
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946
@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946 2 дня назад
Huh, nice plot hole. I wonder if their biggest wish would be to survive though, not necessarily finding the stone. Hard to say.
@andreiiancu8969
@andreiiancu8969 2 дня назад
But would they realize that that's the protection?
@insertclevernamehere1186
@insertclevernamehere1186 2 дня назад
@@andreiiancu8969 Maybe. Voldemort told Quirell to "Use the boy" when Harry showed up, so it's likely that Voldemort would reach that idea on his own eventually.
@Huff-and-Puff
@Huff-and-Puff 2 дня назад
Idk if that would work. Dumbledore specifically says “someone who wanted the stone, but not use it…” and getting the stone to then give to Voldemort to use, seems exactly what Dumbledore meant. Harry got the stone because he wanted it to keep it AWAY from Voldemort and stop it from being used. If the student only wanted it to save themselves, to them turn it over to Quirrell and Voldemort, that defeats the purpose. It’s the exact opposite of what Harry wanted it for. I don’t think it would work like that. And as someone said above, the true desire wouldn’t be to get the stone, it would be to survive or save their family…
@EricOfYork
@EricOfYork День назад
It could have been Dumbledore's test of Harry's character. Dumbledore needed to find out if Harry had a desire for wealth and if he was frightened of death.
@DLPMouse8
@DLPMouse8 2 дня назад
The „care-of-magical-teachers-creature“ killed me 😅
@Forgotten_Winters
@Forgotten_Winters 2 дня назад
I always catch a little bit of heat for my list but heres my ranks... 1. Chamber of Secrets 2. Prisoner of Azkaban 3. Goblet of Fire 4. Half Blood Prince 5. Order of the Phoenix 6. Philosophers Stone 7. deathly Hallows
@nothingbuttamil8988
@nothingbuttamil8988 7 часов назад
Yes, you surely does 😡😡😡😅
@ChildElle
@ChildElle 3 дня назад
Ben Ranking: 7: Chamber of Secrets 6: Prisoner of Azkaban 5: Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone 4: Order of the Phoenix 3: Deathly Hallows 2: Half-Blood Prince 1: Goblet of Fire J's Ranking: 7: Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone 6: Order of the Phoenix 5: Chamber of Secrets 4: Prisoner of Azkaban 3: Half-Blood Prince 2: Goblet of Fire 1: Deathly Hallows
@aqwkingchampion13
@aqwkingchampion13 3 дня назад
Average Ranking Betwixt Them: 6/7: Philosopher’s Stone/Chamber of Secrets 4/5: Prisoner of Azkaban/Order of the Phoenix 3: Half Blood Prince 2: Deathly Hallows 1: Goblet of Fire
@braun_auge3954
@braun_auge3954 2 дня назад
Thanks, that is helpful
@nmgg6928
@nmgg6928 2 дня назад
Thank you! Having this up while they discussed really helped me follow along better
@NotAnotherDouc-
@NotAnotherDouc- 2 дня назад
THANK YOU! I have no clue why they didn't summarize/list this in the video themselves
@nmgg6928
@nmgg6928 2 дня назад
@@NotAnotherDouc- agreed
@demarkesgreen7362
@demarkesgreen7362 3 дня назад
"Holly... Wood!?" 🤯 Love it
@katiejohnson558
@katiejohnson558 2 дня назад
People complain that Harry is too angsty and annoying in OotP but it's my favorite book in the series because I think his angsty-ness is very cathartic. Throughout the books I think about how Harry /should/ be mad about what is happening to him. He should be mad at how he's been treated by everyone around him and what he is expected to do. It makes me feel really good during OotP because the entire time I'm like "YES HARRY BE MAD" I love to see him express those angry and resentful emotions during the book because I don't feel like he really does in any of the other books. It makes Harry feel more real.
@motorwaffle6700
@motorwaffle6700 День назад
The Order didn't care about the consequences of Voldemort getting the prophecy. They cared that Voldemort was expending the resources and risking exposing his return by trying to get at it, and that he was holding off on any full-blown assaults until he was sure what the prophecy said.
@aadvantagegold5220
@aadvantagegold5220 2 дня назад
Regarding the "I am Lord Voldemort" - the first time I read that book, I literally stopped what I was doing, sat down, and figured out that it actually worked.
@nothingbuttamil8988
@nothingbuttamil8988 7 часов назад
Yes, i am completely mind blown. Well thought...
@nothingbuttamil8988
@nothingbuttamil8988 7 часов назад
I was completely mind blown
@benjaminpityo4899
@benjaminpityo4899 2 дня назад
Thank you for the Cat, Rat, Dog shout out. That was my fave chapter for the longest time
@ashadeofstupid1329
@ashadeofstupid1329 2 дня назад
#1 - Half Blood Prince #2 - Deathly Hallows #3 - Goblet of Fire #4 - Prizoner of Azkaban #5 - Order of the Pheonix #6 - Chamber of Secrets #7 - Philosopher's Stone
@Shocktrue1
@Shocktrue1 3 дня назад
When they say "i remember laying on the bed and Dad was reading the first book to us...." And you just FEEL the wrinkles as you think "how much younger than i are these kids, since i read them all myself as they came out?" . Rip my knees
@failurenotsorry6600
@failurenotsorry6600 3 дня назад
your knees?
@ThatGirlShelbyy
@ThatGirlShelbyy 3 дня назад
@@failurenotsorry6600They're saying that J and B must be a lot younger than that person, because their dad was reading it to them as kids, but this person read it themselves when they were seemingly older at that time.
@gerileemakes
@gerileemakes 3 дня назад
I am their age (at least the same high school graduation year as J) and I also read the books to myself. There is also a third, younger Carlin brother who was probably just too little to read the books alone at the time. J and Ben also might have been a little younger than I was when they were introduced to the books (between books 3-4). It just seems nice that their family did this regardless of their ages at the time.
@Shocktrue1
@Shocktrue1 3 дня назад
@@failurenotsorry6600 ie: suddenly i feel OLD, watching these "kids" go over the books. I'm young enough to have grown up with them, but not to the same degree, and it makes me feel older than i am
@bonecanoe86
@bonecanoe86 3 дня назад
My mom read the first three books to my sister and I, but when nobody was looking I'd sneak off and read ahead because I was too curious to wait, and then when she'd read it next I'd act surprised when something big happened to cover it up.
@PotterGeek0731
@PotterGeek0731 3 дня назад
Please do a what if Draco was in Gryffindor and what if Dudley was a wizard!
@HugoGojibiter
@HugoGojibiter 3 дня назад
Would Draco in Gryffindor even be possible? He’d have to be a completely different person for that
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k 3 дня назад
@@HugoGojibiterI think it is possible. In the original story, Draco is self-seeking, a trait associated with Slytherin, but not really too ambitious. For Draco to be Gryffindor, he’d have to just not be as self-seeking. Draco would grow up hearing about the daring exploits of his dad in the name of protecting wizardkind. Draco believes this is noble, and wants to continue that line of bravery, even if it’s technically evil. The sorting hat sees this nerve and judges him best suited for Gryffindor.
@BrinkofMattness
@BrinkofMattness 3 дня назад
I mean I would watch these
@PotterGeek0731
@PotterGeek0731 3 дня назад
@@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k not to mention they went partially down this tangent on one of the podcasts and it was interest and now I just want MORE details!
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 3 дня назад
I much prefer the idea that Dudley marries a Muggle, but ends up with magic kids. That story would be fascinating.
@tictac-bl4so
@tictac-bl4so 2 дня назад
I literally searched this exact thing on your channel 2 days ago and was completely surprised you had never done it. What a coincidence
@TheAymanRahman
@TheAymanRahman 3 дня назад
I’m gunning for my favorite Prisoner of Azkaban!!
@Jodster223
@Jodster223 3 дня назад
This is my favorite book as well
@jish55
@jish55 3 дня назад
Honestly, it's always bored me. Even after recently re-reading it, I just wasn't that invested in what was going on.
@nether2227
@nether2227 3 дня назад
@@jish55 Thats what shocked me soo much that they said in the video. Its always been top 3 for me. Never even wavered. Ive always loved Loopin and Serius they could probably be in my top 10 characters, love Hagrid getting big emotional arcs not just some offscreen stuff happens that he then tells the kids about. Like the first book he was literally just a story device used for explaining stuff to the kids and why they knew too much and the second I felt he wasnt even in that much. Love Buckbeak and everything in the book just felt world biulding and slice of life. Voldemort cant be the problem every single year or that would be boring and old by the end, but yet it still leads into that because without Peter being found out and returning or Sirius breaking out, we dont really get anything from Goblet or him returning because the main helpers were Peter and I geuss Barty Jr but would he have gotten away from his fathers keep without the dark lord possibly returning? I geuss its a personal thing, but its just always been up there for me and im actually shocked when people rank it low. I dont even know what can be boring in it, if im honest. And I didnt even mention the awsome time turners or just the cool classes and learning we got from Pirisoner. And its very similar to 5 in my opinion which is my favourite and in the video they also didnt rank 5 too high, which i was shocked with. Is it 50/50 you love them both or rank them both low?
@Eden_Esther
@Eden_Esther 3 дня назад
Same!! I think it’s the book where Harry is happiest
@nether2227
@nether2227 3 дня назад
@@Eden_Esther Yes! Maybe the first one hes a kid, finally has friends, has magic, its so much wonder and joy but I think the 3rd he has family that love him, sure not biological, but Sirius and Lupin are family, the whole Leaky Cauldron time hes just a teenager having a cool holiday in london basically, ice creams everyday, then his friends and his other psudo or future married into family show up and he's so joyous, his happieness is literally how he has the patronas and its corporial!! Also the music notes when he talks to Lupin on the bridge in the film and its so emotional almost get me everytime with tears of joy, just because he has found his family after all this time. And they were obviously soo soo close, because he is Teddys godfather, even though he probably shares custody with the Tonk's when he is old enough to raise a kid and they are extra old, he probably takes primary care. So is a father to this guys son! And then 5 he has an entire army of friends! and family all in Grimmauld Place, that would die for him like family and who half of them do. They bring so much joy that people seem to forget about and its that most familial joy that cant be beaten, even by some flying brushes, magic sticks and some old guys in dresses
@peytonbond4886
@peytonbond4886 2 дня назад
McGonagall's sass to Umbridge singlehandedly carries Order of the Phoenix
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 дня назад
The biggest issue I have with Deathly Hallows is that the "payoffs" seem a bit forced and kinda seem to contradict previous lore. Expeliarmus changing the loyalties of wands? Like, why didn't this happen when they were in the DA? Why didn't this happen when Lupin disarmed the Golden Trio in Poisoner? Why didn't Bellatrix's wand give its loyalty to Ron? And for Draco's wand core being unicorn hair, it's supposed to be the most loyal of wand cores, but it changed loyalty due to Harry taking it from him?
@zodinator8241
@zodinator8241 2 дня назад
I first read this series in 2nd grade and have been re and rereading them ever since. My ranking: 7. The Chamber of Secrets- This book has always bugged me for many of the reasons Ben brought up: The convoluted way of getting Harry, Ron, and Lockhart into the chamber, although I do think the teachers calling Lockheart's bluff wasn't putting off the problem, only getting Lockheart out of the way of them actually doing their jobs. It is hard to bring up anything more than that because I love this book so much but if I had to pick one to cram to the bottom of my bag to only fish out when I want to reexperience a one of the phenominal moments from this it, it would be this one. Plus, the idea of the giant spiders, giant snakes, and just minding your own business and being petrified by a giant snake terrified me as a kid. Humm, so many giant creatures in this one, maybe I'm afraid of giants. 6. The Deathly Hollows- Hey J, sorry for putting this one so low, I promise I still love it. Anyway, this story had so many good parts, Snape's reveal, the Battle of Hogwarts, breaking into Gringotts, riding a dragon, Malfoy Manor, the sword in the lake, Bill and Fleur's wedding, Shell Cottage, The Battle of the Seven Potters, Xenophilius Lovegood's house, Godric's Hollow. So many amazing things but the one thing with this book that has always urked me is that there is so much saddness and miserableness in between, they are camping for most of the book, they keep losing friends to terrible circumstances! Ron is mean, they lose Kreacher just after he finally finds love, Mad-Eye dies, Hedwig dies, they get tricked by Nagini, they kept getting knocked down again and again and even though they always got back up, this one dragged on for me and I had to put it down a few times because I was so upset with Ron or Yaxley or Harry. I also have always found the ministry heist a bummer and, for real, they use polyjuice potion five times! The Battle of the Seven Potters, the wedding, The Ministry break in, Godric's Hollow, the Gringotts break in, they never even get close to running out. I think Moody's stash could've easily been a lot smaller than it was. This one has always bumped me a little but there are still so many more things I love about this one than that I dislike. 5. The Sorcerer's Stone- I cannot deny, like Ben, this one definitely won some brownie points for being the first but it really was such a good first that it deserves those brownie points! Just thinking about how perfectly constructed this book is, makes me want to read it again to make sure I wasn't imagining the whole thing. We got magic; we got scary two-faces on one head reveal; we got Neville learning to stand up for himself, which I don't think we ever think about because it became his new normal but Neville was being straight up physically bullied in his first year; we got Dudley pig tail, kinda horrifying if you think about it, and we got the golden trio coming together, which was perfectly and reasonably paced so that we were so glad and so happy that those three became friends. This one is special in so many ways but in the largest part because it hooked all of us, otherwise we wouldn't be here to click on this video today. 4. The Order of the Phoenix- No one can deny Umbridge's impact on this series, no one! She was the first villain we've fully hated, no questions asked; she was the reason we got Weasley's Wizards Weazes in the next one; she even appears in every book after to stick her snout into the golden trio's lives for all eternity if she could. On a different not, I never saw Harry as being eternaly anxsty in this one, I just thought he was traumatized, he was being oppressed by Umbridge and Dumbledore, and he was a teen with no guiding light because all of his parental figures were either argueing with one another or afraid that he was secretly a plant for Voldemort. He was having a rough go of it but he still found time to be happy during Christmas and proud of his students because he deserved to be. And, don't forget folks, this is when we first got introduced to Luna Lovegood, how can you write this one off? Just look at her and listen to jim Dale work his audio magic! 3. The Prisoner of Azkaban- This is one of my favorites to reread, especially as I fall asleep, I get the best dreams. I agree with J and Ben, the Hagrid-Buckbeak-Draco plotline, it wasn't the most interesting or realistic but I find merit in the way that it impacts Hermione, Ron, and Harry's relationships. When Hermione and Ron are fighting about Crookshanks and Scabbers and Harry is mad at Hermione for the Firebolt situation, Hermione continues to help Hagrid when the boys wouldn't because that is the kind of person she is. And, she was right about Sirius having sent the Firebolt to Harry. I just love the degree of depth and empathy we get from Hermione in this plotline and I can't discount how much it really really made me fall in love with her character. + Marauders + L + rat-io 2. The Goblet of Fire- A definite masterpiece of storytelling. If y'all haven't watched Jed Herne's video on sub-plots in fiction, he really digs deep into the things we all love about this book from Rita Skeeter to Bartie Crouch Jr., this book has it all. Cedric is the perfect spare, Hermione branches out from Harry and Ron with Krum, Hagrid comes out of his shell with Madame Maxime, Ron is revealed to be a jealous toxic character who is promising us some growth,and we get the first steps to Weasley's Wizard Weazes. 1. The Half-blood Prince- I loved this book from start to finish, Slughorn, Dumbledore bullying the Dursleys, Hermione's coolness under stress(minus Mcclaggin), Ron realizing his true feelings, Harry as the quidditch captain, but my alltime favorite piece of this whole thing is Draco's journey. Draco just became a whole new person through this story, we see him cry, disagreeing with Crabbe and Goyle, being resentful towards Snape, being an actual unsure teenager, and feeling alone. Chef's kiss~
@The-Variable
@The-Variable 3 дня назад
I thought Ben and I were on the same page about the worst chapter in the series when they were discussing Chamber. To my shock though it didn’t end up being the Death Day party chapter. I have read and reread these books so many times and the chapter I most dread going back through (and often skip over) is that one.
@michaelcheney2347
@michaelcheney2347 2 дня назад
1) Order of the Phoenix 2) Deathly Hallows 3) Goblet of Fire 4) Sorcerer’s Stone 5) Prisoner of Azkaban 6) Chamber of Secrets 7) Half Blood Prince Harry should have been closer to Lupin, he relied on him as a mentor for a whole year and only knew Sirius for an hour before they separated at the end of Prisoner. I never understood the leap from complete stranger to the most trusted confidant from the end of Prisoner to the start of Goblet.
@akshaymudia5421
@akshaymudia5421 2 дня назад
Lupin character gets misplaced post poa ending i felt.
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 2 дня назад
But at the same time, Lupin was very reluctant, a coward even. He didnt seek Harry out, the orphan child of his childhood friends who even made themselves animagi for him, not once did he try to contact Harry before Azkaban and even during that book, he reveals he knew his parents far too late after Harry's prompts.
@saulgoodman8501
@saulgoodman8501 2 дня назад
​@@thorthewolf8801 probably just due to the fact that Dumbledore told him not too.
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 2 дня назад
​@@saulgoodman8501Hagrid was appaled that Harry didnt know anything about the wizarding world, and Harry had his hand constantly shaken by random wizards on the street. From that, I dont think anything supports that Dumbledore would have told Lupin that.
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 2 дня назад
Sirius gave Harry the one thing that he's always wanted more than anything else, though. When Harry looks into the mirror of erised, he sees him with family. Sirius is the closest thing Harry has ever had to that. He's his actual godfather, he offered him a home, and he genuinely loves him. How could an orphan boy not latch on to that. It doesn't make as much logical sense, but it makes a terrible amount of emotional sense. It doesn't matter how well he knows him, Sirius represents the only thing Harry ever really wanted.
@laser8389
@laser8389 2 дня назад
On Lupin assigning the vampire essay: at first I thought it was Lupin trying to out Snape as a vampire, but the more I think about it, I actually think it was Lupin trying to throw off anyone who thought he was a werewolf. Like, of course Snape can't be a vampire, therefore Lupin can't be a werewolf, Snape was just being Snape.
@jayyfrostyy8359
@jayyfrostyy8359 3 дня назад
Please bring movieflame back more frequently, you guys have such a deep knowledge on harry potter that would lend itself so well to future j vs ben’s with him
@evanstensland611
@evanstensland611 3 дня назад
Gotta redo this after Through the Griffin Door is finished. As for my ranking, 1. Half-Blood Prince 2. Goblet of Fire 3. Deathly Hallows 4. Prisoner of Azkaban 5. Philosophers Stone 6. Chamber of Secrets 7. Order of the Phoenix Sorry, it’s just too long with not enough meat to the story. I was especially disappointed after watching the movie which I think is paced perfectly.
@robthekoopa
@robthekoopa 2 дня назад
Molly and Harry’s hospital wing scene in GoF makes it my favorite book. I bawl my eyes out everytime I read it. I get choked up when I explain it to friends as well lol
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800 3 дня назад
I’ve been waiting for this ranking for a long time. I think it will be great along with your movie ranking. Maybe after the podcast of going through each chapter your ranking will maybe change
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 3 дня назад
That is def effecting it a LOT
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800 3 дня назад
@@SuperCarlinBrothers Oh that’s interesting. I really hope my favorites are at the top. I know Jay said Deathly Hallows and Goblet if Fire were his favorites. I wonder if it stayed the same
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800 3 дня назад
@@SuperCarlinBrothers You may have to do an updated ranking after the podcast is done in a few years to see if your ranking has changed.
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 3 дня назад
I misread that as "chapter ranking". IMO, the best chapter of the series is the epilogue and the worst is The Unknowable Room.
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800
@harrypotteranddisneyfan5800 3 дня назад
@@coolnerdlll6053 i don’t really remember the epilogue and I forgot what chapter is the unknowable room, I think it’s from either half blood Prince or ootp
@Ourpalalex
@Ourpalalex 3 дня назад
I love them talking about the Mad Eye twist in Goblet. They describe it like "What!? That guy who loved torturing kids and putting one in magical gladiator fights, him!? He was EVIL!?!?!" Like, I'm not saying that I called the twist, but i just died the way they were talking about.
@giggle251
@giggle251 2 дня назад
1 Order of the Phoenix 2 Goblet of Fire 3 Prisoner of Askaban 4 Half Blood Prince 5 Deathly Hallows 6 Sorcerers Stone/ Philosopher Stone 7 Chamber of Secrets This is my order. I always loved OotP. It might seemed too long for most people but I’m hoping that they realize how important it actually is in the whole story in “Through the Griffin Door.” It is the book if I did patron I would want a page from that book
@ericliberti4359
@ericliberti4359 2 дня назад
Shockingly, I read the books for the first time this summer, and I’ve been absolutely obsessed with the Wizarding World since. I love this channel, as I was craving a deeper dive into the lore and having burning, unresolved questions answered, and you guys absolutely have satisfied that for me! I’ve also been listening to Through the Griffin Door, and I’ve had the urge to share my own thought about the series. I’m not sure if you have already talked about this in other videos (I’m just scratching the surface on all your content), but I feel confident the entire series was written using a literary device called a chiasmus. This means the themes presented in the first half of the series reflect in the second half, with the moment that the plot begins to mirror itself is in the chapter Priori Incantatem, where Voldemort’s spells begin to seep out of his wand in reverse. So, themes, characters, plot points and artifacts from Pholosopher’s Stone show up in Deathly Hallows, things in Chamber reappear in Half-Blood, and things in Prisoner return in Order. I really feel like this is true, and makes me appreciate the series and the deep thought and planning that went into this beautiful work.
@Itz_Mont
@Itz_Mont 3 дня назад
If my Super Carlin Brother knowledge is correct, they ranked both movies and the books on a tier list at one point.
@jenniferpajor5365
@jenniferpajor5365 2 дня назад
I know Movie Flame did that, but I don’t know about SCB
@tylarjackson7928
@tylarjackson7928 2 дня назад
Long time viewer here, dating back to around 2015. I'm like 98% sure they've never ranked the books before this.
@Itz_Mont
@Itz_Mont День назад
@@jenniferpajor5365 Yeah, being a longtime fan of both I probably got that mixed up. Harry Potter information overload!
@Itz_Mont
@Itz_Mont День назад
@@tylarjackson7928 I respect how long you've been watching, I myself have been watching since only about 2016, I grew up on this channel.
@tylarjackson7928
@tylarjackson7928 День назад
@@Itz_Mont Hey, 9 years and 8 years are practically the same man, no worries. I'm 30, so I didn't quite grow up on them, but my son was also born in 2015, and he definitely has!
@mattbabineau197
@mattbabineau197 День назад
My Roman Empire and maybe my favorite movie change is the timing of when Fawkes heals Harry. In the book Fawkes heals him BEFORE he stabs the diary. They switch it in the movie so that Harry stabs the diary while in agony and believing he’s about to die, but uses what he thinks are his last moments to save Ginny. That’s WAY better and a way better reflection of Harry’s nature.
@samyates9661
@samyates9661 3 дня назад
1. Goblet of Fire 2. Deathly Hallows 3. Prisoner of Azkaban 4. Half Blood Prince 5. Philosophers Stone 6. Chamber of Secrets 7. Order of the Phoenix
@hollynixon9570
@hollynixon9570 День назад
It broke my heart to see Prisoner ranked so low, and I liked it for all of the reasons they didn’t. I love that Voldemort wasn’t in it because after the first two the reader is kinda like “queue Voldemort” and he doesn’t show!!!! It’s awesome! I was glad to see Goblet ranked so high though. When I got that book when I was a kid, I was so enthralled I read almost the entire thing in a day and I had no idea the day passed. My mom came home from work and I thought she had forgotten something and come back, but actually she had been at work all day 😅. I am glad J ranked Order of the Phoenix so low. I agree that the prophecy seems flimsy.
@ShireLeaf
@ShireLeaf 3 дня назад
Wait hold on one second there please fellas! Remus Lupin is one of the best teachers ever! no doubt about it. But better than Flitwick? Don't cast me as Prejudice for Ravenclaw but LUPIN could never be a dueling champion! Plus he's too tall! HUGE TARGET!
@jackwilson1281
@jackwilson1281 День назад
I really wish Hagrid got a solid few months as a good teacher allowing the introduction of a few more cool creatures, and allow Hagrid to be himself for a portion of Prisoner, also could’ve used the first few classes to show Draco losing attention as he fails with creatures leading to the Hippogriff lesson
@asallee2
@asallee2 3 дня назад
I would love to see a book written by JK with Harry in his prime and how powerful he is
@laydarr
@laydarr 2 дня назад
at 19:00 you're talking about how the other teacher where giving Lockhart the opportunity to prove himself. i have always read it as what you're saying they should have been doing, saying to him "go ahead and take care of the problem, you said you could... ok now that he's gone, how are we going to rescue the Weasley girl?"
@Silver_Girl178
@Silver_Girl178 2 дня назад
The Diary was "worthy" of being a Horcrux because it belonged to Tom Riddle. It was probably one of the few things he was allowed to put his name on-that no one else at the orphanage was going to use-and he wanted to see his own personal "artifact" on the same level as a Founder's object. Also, if we're going to go really dark, it's the same reason the "bad Germans" kept such good records: they thought they were going to be the heroes one day and that everyone would want to know exactly how they did what they did and how it started.
@ArchiveINC
@ArchiveINC 3 дня назад
Imagine if Hermione went to Ravenclaw
@BradDiBenedetto
@BradDiBenedetto 3 дня назад
I feel like that has to come after they finish Ron in hufflepuff
@marcinz.3570
@marcinz.3570 2 дня назад
I feel like Buckbeaks storyline could’ve been pushed to, say, spring time. Hagrid would have established himself as a really good teacher by then, so the verdict would feel even more unfair. And the whole storyline wouldn’t feel so stretched out.
@stevieboysmith
@stevieboysmith 3 дня назад
There might be some hot takes in here, but: 1) Goblet of Fire 2) Sorcerer's Stone 3) Prisoner of Azkaban 4) Half-Blood Prince 5) Chamber of Secrets 6) Deathly Hallows 7) Order of the Phoenix
@jerameymanuel9083
@jerameymanuel9083 3 дня назад
We share the bottom 2
@stevieboysmith
@stevieboysmith 2 дня назад
@@jerameymanuel9083 I have to disagree with J, I think the way Harry beats Voldemort via elder wand technicality is super dumb. Every single time Harry has faced off against Voldemort, he's basically lucked his way into winning. I think it would have been way cooler if they could have an actual duel and Harry is allowed to actually beat him. That alone really drags Deathly Hallows down for me
@nether2227
@nether2227 3 дня назад
I think Draco's redemption arc is the same as Dudley's. Harrys 2 biggest antagonists really are his 2 bullies his cousin and his classmate. Dudley has his 'I don't think your a waste of space' and Draco has his face pulls to the Hermione torture and refuses to tell them its obviously Harry and his little acknowledgement at the end at the train station, which could just be a film thing no in the books. But he could have said 'yes its Harry' Voldemort is summoned immediately and then he kills his 2 friends and gets Harry's horcrux, maybe even actually killing him. So I think as a whole Draco could have gotten more definitely, but he absolutely got some definitely.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 дня назад
Been waiting For this one for a long time guys! Thanks For this Guys! You're the Best! My favorite is Goblet of fire! Your podcast has also been great 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@musicsmith14
@musicsmith14 2 дня назад
Book 5 is my favorite. To me it’s the most relatable and realistic. It teaches so many life lessons about big things. I was surprised you didn’t mention Luna in your discussion of it!
@dashwithhash6106
@dashwithhash6106 3 дня назад
We need another rating the covers, that was a great video
@gregorykollarus8190
@gregorykollarus8190 2 дня назад
1. Half blood Prince. 2. Chamber of secrets. 3. Deathly hallows 4. Philosopher Stone. 5. prisoner of Azkaban. 6. order of the Phoenix 7. Goblet of fire. Disclaimer I love all these books so take this with the grain of salt.
@HaveABiscuit
@HaveABiscuit 2 дня назад
Reading through the comments, the thing I love most is that there is actually no consensus on which book is best. Every book has its specific purpose in the overall story, and they all deliver. There isn't really a "weak point" because every book has its own charm and moments that stick with you. Ootp will always be my number one, but the rest of my personal list changes every time I reread the books. I just think it's incredible how well the overall story is told, and it was absolutely amazing to be part of this phenomenon in real time as each book was released. There was never anything like it, and i seriously doubt there could be again. Just an incredible body of work that contributed so much to young adult's literature. I am so proud and happy to be part of this community. Much love to you all xx
@animecrazy90
@animecrazy90 3 дня назад
J still working the stache 😂
@dudeface1279
@dudeface1279 3 дня назад
Did he loose a bet? Lol
@jessicacain114
@jessicacain114 3 дня назад
​@@dudeface1279no he did it as part of a fundraiser. But he likes it. So he kept it.
@dudeface1279
@dudeface1279 3 дня назад
@jessicacain114 thank you so much lol. I'll start getting used to it then
@chrisconcannon6490
@chrisconcannon6490 3 дня назад
I wish I could grow a mustache that good, but it's definitely giving off "Barbershop Quartet" vibes.
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 3 дня назад
1. Deathly Hallows - I love the change in setting, the action, the emotions, the finality, just all of it. 2. Order of the Phoenix - It's a little too long, but I can't say no to the Ministry scenes, the political subtext, Umbridge or the DA. 3. Goblet of Fire - Basically a tie with Prisoner, but I like how scaled up it is. 4. Prisoner of Azkaban - Probably the most basic of the series, but it still has a lot of great stuff and I love that it's the darkest of the first three. 5. Chamber of Secrets - It suffers from early book syndrome, but I've always loved the mystery aspect of it. 6. Sorcerer's Stone - Even worse in terms of early book syndrome, but as a standalone children's book, it's a modern classic. 7. Half-Blood Prince - I love the Riddle scenes and everything once they get to the cave, but I can't stand the romance subplots. I am open to debate, but my mind is made up.
@madisonrudd6538
@madisonrudd6538 3 дня назад
Agree 100%
@jakeferreira1211
@jakeferreira1211 3 дня назад
I would flip Order and Half Blood, but other than that mine is the same. Order is without a doubt one of the best written books in the series, but the issue with that is that it's so incredibly frustrating to read. Like Harry is being all angry and frustrated with everyone the whole time, and I feel exactly the same way. Other the the DA scenes, which there aren't many of, the entire book just feels like people intentionally driving Harry crazy, and you as the reader feel that. And I know that's the point, where the Minestry is trying to make Harry's life difficult and Dumbledore and the Order are trying to keep Harry safe, but it's all too much for me. I could have dealt with it more if it's one at a time, like if Umbridge was the DADA teacher in Half Blood but Dumbledore was still having his lessons with Harry, and vice-versa if Dumbledore was keeping everything from Harry but you just had Slughorn as the potions master, but both at the same time is just too frustrating.
@chrisconcannon6490
@chrisconcannon6490 3 дня назад
I'm with your explanation for Half-Blood Prince coming in last. Maybe it was because I was well into my 20s when that book came out, but the romance subplots overwhelmed everything else in the book for me, and not in a good way. I'm not someone who thinks that jealousy and relationship drama is entertaining, so you can imagine why that entire subplot didn't work for me. If it was supposed to sell me on those two relationships working long-term, it did the opposite.
@jakeferreira1211
@jakeferreira1211 3 дня назад
@@chrisconcannon6490 The Ron and Hermione thing especially is understandable. It was mildly annoying, but it definitely wasn't a big enough deal for me to really affect my opinion on the book one way or another. And I do really like Harry and Ginny together. Ginny is such a great character ask throughout the books, and she's this sort of light in the darkness for Harry in Half Blood, especially once they start dating. I'm not usually big on relationship plot lines either, but I think that one works well.
@67buick
@67buick 3 дня назад
While I don’t have it even close to last I agree with you about hbp. As an adult the romance aspect is definitely a little cringey at times. I definitely see a necessity for some of it as the characters mature, but it can be a bit much at times
@00juls00
@00juls00 3 дня назад
Wow, 1 1/2 hr video! 😮🎉🙌🏼 So fun! Timestamps for your enjoyment! 😊 1:30 - Philosopher’s Stone 12:52 - Chamber of Secrets 22:57 - Prisoner of Azkaban 35:22 - Goblet of Fire 44:49 - Order of the Phoenix 56:23 - Half Blood Prince 1:09:24 - Deathly Hallows
@GrantDolanMusic
@GrantDolanMusic 3 дня назад
Goblet being so high is surprising. Thats the one I don’t like because of how much the school doesn’t like Harry and that Ron and Hermione have a falling out. I also don’t like it because Harry was forced to do something he really doesn’t want to do and no one stops it. It’s 6th in my list.
@Godly_Yeagerist_140
@Godly_Yeagerist_140 8 часов назад
My ranking: 1. Goblet of Fire 2. Half-Blood Prince 3. Order of the Phoenix 4. Prisoner of Azkaban 5. Deathly Hallows 6. Philosopher's Stone 7. Chamber of Secrets
@Kags
@Kags 2 дня назад
my personal list because nobody asked 1.Azkaban (best for character development and introductions of Sirius and Remus) 2.Half Blood Prince (slughorn good, potions book good, solid story) 3.Order of Phoenix (umbridge good, DA good, Ginny good) 4.Chamber (lockhart goofy ah, bit immersion breaking that the basilisk kills nobody ever [oh what a fearsome monster...]) 5.Sorcerers Stone (story mediocre, well written and standout for being able to capture new audience) 6.Deathly Hallows (very plot armor, such contrived) 7.Goblet of Fire (terrible plot [really the dark lord of evil sets up a rube goldberg machine instead of just turning his school chair into a portkey?], never really explained how voldy gets his baby body
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 3 дня назад
HEY BROTHER
@shane2934
@shane2934 5 часов назад
Prisoner is also the first time Harry really shines as a Wizard. Learning the Patronus Charm at 13 is pretty crazy
@keyblademasterclark
@keyblademasterclark 3 дня назад
1) HBP 2) OOTP 3) POA 4) DH 5) SS 6) COS 7) GOF
@ALLFSGIVEN
@ALLFSGIVEN 3 дня назад
GoF on bottom really surprises me, but still good list
@keyblademasterclark
@keyblademasterclark 3 дня назад
@@ALLFSGIVEN it was the only book I stopped reading my first time around
@ALLFSGIVEN
@ALLFSGIVEN 3 дня назад
@@keyblademasterclark can I ask why? I put it ironically 4th
@failurenotsorry6600
@failurenotsorry6600 3 дня назад
​@@keyblademasterclarkwhy'd you stop?
@keyblademasterclark
@keyblademasterclark 3 дня назад
@@ALLFSGIVEN to be clear this was back when the book first came out. As a kid it just didn't interest me as much as books 1 and 3
@Paradoxymoronic
@Paradoxymoronic 2 дня назад
You guys putting Prisoner in 4/6 made me actually gasp out loud as it's my favourite book. My personal rankings would go 1 - Prisoner 2 - Order 3 - Goblet 4 - Stone 5 - Hallows 6 - Chamber 7 - Prince
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k 3 дня назад
3:55 Philosopher’s stone is my favorite movie though
@Shaymin357
@Shaymin357 2 дня назад
This comment is slightly irrelevant
@levitentia
@levitentia 2 дня назад
This comment is slightly irrelevant
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 дня назад
One channel gave Chamber of Secrets an alternate title: Chamber of Plot Conveniences.
@FifthConcerto
@FifthConcerto 2 дня назад
As you were talking about Goblet of Fire, I had an interesting thought. Many argue that for hero series, the origin story is the best story, and it all falls to some extent from there. In a big way, this is Voldemort's origin book. OK, sure, we get his backstory in Chamber, so it's not his origin in THAT sense, but it is the first time we see a fully returned Voldemort, and from a certain viewpoint, the entire story is him orchestrating his return by way of Barty Crouch Jr. We see that, as poor as Voldemort is at planning many things, when he delegates this to his most impressive and useful Death Eater, the plan goes spectacularly well. Even when there are roadblocks, Barty is good enough at what he does to overcome them over and over. He poses as the teacher who is tied as my favorite alongside Lupin, and then he turns out to be one of the most evil and insidious characters of the series. Once Barty is gone, Voldemort is doomed because the next greatest Death Eater he has is Snape, and Snape is "always" going to be against Voldemort in the end. I don't know if Goblet is my favorite; it was when I was growing up, but now, I'd have to reconsider. Fortunately, I started re-reading the series to follow along with Through the Griffin Door (I am now at the start of Halfblood Prince), so I should be able to make that determination soon.
@Majormindandsoul
@Majormindandsoul 2 часа назад
Harry isn’t “moody” in book 5, he’s suffering from PTSD while being called a liar about. That is compelling as a storyline.
@jonathanbeck63
@jonathanbeck63 3 дня назад
I was a little surprised at how low you both ranked Order. That's my personal favorite. Overall, I think I matched up with Ben a little more closely. I would go: 1. Order; 2. Goblet; 3. Hallows; 4. Prisoner; 5. Prince; 6. Stone; 7. Chamber (I hate spiders at least as much as Ron!). But, like you guys, those are fluid depending on what I pick up in each re-read, and I love them all. Not a bad one in the bunch.
@amyconcepcion7148
@amyconcepcion7148 2 дня назад
LOL “you can’t pick up book 5 & expect a retelling” - Order was the first one I read, at age 10 😅 can confirm, was definitely confused.
@Adam-s_YouTube_Account
@Adam-s_YouTube_Account 3 дня назад
I love that you had envelopes so that you could do the open envelope reveals, then just wrote the numbers on the back like they were notecards
@zoofit5604
@zoofit5604 День назад
In regards to your commentaqry on Order of the Phoenix, I knew the most AMAZING Umbridge cos-player. The Harry Potter fandom when these books and movies first came out was EPIC, and people CRUSHED their costumes!
@SilkBuckets
@SilkBuckets День назад
ben sniping chapter 12 in deathly hallows and it being the ministry sequence could not have been more perfect lol
@therandompineapple3805
@therandompineapple3805 День назад
My favorite is either the order of Phoenix or goblet of fire. I think goblet of fire is the better book, but order of the Phoenix came in a very vindicating time for me because I was a 15-year-old in high school with not one but two umbridge caliber teachers and I felt very seen when I read that
@willardj49
@willardj49 2 дня назад
Per your statement that anyone's blood could have been used to resurrect Voldemort: I actually disagree. I believe that it has to be someone that Voldemort considers an enemy, not just anyone who opposes him. The other 2 ingredients in the graveyard are given from the perspective of Voldemort. It's HIS father, not just A father. It's HIS servant, not just A servant. So it stands to reason that blood of the enemy would have to be HIS enemy, not just AN enemy. Most people opposing Voldemort are more just generally opposed to what he represents moreso than the man himself. (i.e. it could've been any dark wizard, it just happens to be Voldemort this time) There's only 2 people that Voldemort would consider worthy enough of being HIS enemy: Harry and Dumbledore. They're the only two individuals that Voldemort shows anything akin to respect towards. Everyone else that's opposing him is just a fool, not worth his time. Like dirty dishes. "Eh, I'll get around to it eventually". Since he's terrified of Dumbledore, and with no feasible way to get him, he HAS to use Harry. (which he wanted to do anyway to get around the love protection) And with Harry, it's also personal both ways. Harry more directly opposes Voldemort himself because he killed his parents, as opposed to just his ideals. Voldemort is HIS enemy, and Harry is Voldemort's enemy.
@ahtiulanen6122
@ahtiulanen6122 4 часа назад
Halfblood Prince, Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, Deathly Hallows, Order of the Phoenix, Philosopher's Stone, Chamber of Secrets
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k
@AkhilNagulapalli-f5k 3 дня назад
1:27:01 Amazing video. All your points were so validating. Like when you were talking about not understanding the Hallows at first, we could all feel that
@doppss
@doppss День назад
My list would go as follows: 1. Goblet 2. Half blood 3. Deathly hallows 4. Prisoner 5. Philosopher 6. Order 7. Chamber
@doppss
@doppss День назад
Order and philosopher are the only ones I would switch
@r.m.morison2636
@r.m.morison2636 2 дня назад
My favorite is Half Blood Prince, because you get to learn more about Snape and his motives behind everything and I really like that.
@philopharynx7910
@philopharynx7910 22 часа назад
Ah, I always love watching the Cerebral Horn Purists. And never forget that Cranberries Hurl Pots and A Brunch Terrier Slops.
@betaeta08
@betaeta08 День назад
Listening to Jim Dale's read with my dad is a core memory...listening to Prisoner of Azkaban again got me through my first Christmas without him ❤
@nanogarcia9056
@nanogarcia9056 День назад
I like to think that the elder wand truly is just a regular wand, and HARRY is so pure of heart that HE is the only PERSON who is able to repair a wand...
@Godwilla39
@Godwilla39 10 часов назад
Have you all ever covered why the portkey has to be the Triwizard cup? It is a plot point in goblet that has always bothered me, and honestly hurts the book overall for me. BCJ was in place at Hogwarts in close proximity to Harry. Couldn’t he have made anything a portkey? A quill? A piece of parchment? Why does it have to be the Triwizard cup? When you step back, there is literally no reason for the entire plot to happen. The most common explanation I hear is that “Voldemort likes symbols of power” which I just don’t buy. We’re talking about a guy getting his body back, I think he would sacrifice symbolism for ease. It bothers me to such an extent that if I were ranking, I would put Goblet at 6
@Celticsw-yb8hu
@Celticsw-yb8hu 3 часа назад
1: Half Blood Prince 2: Deathly Hallows 3: Goblet of Fire 4: Prisoner of Azkaban 5: Order of the Phoenix 6: Chamber of Secrets 7: Philosophers Stone
@thehufflepuffhermione
@thehufflepuffhermione 3 часа назад
I think the #1 reason Prisoner of Azkaban is often the favorite for most fans is the Marauder’s. They have a beloved 3 part fan fiction written about them called All The Young Dudes.
@marcinz.3570
@marcinz.3570 2 дня назад
That sentence that Snape saved Jameses life may be more of a “The fact that James and Lily married and had a child and died made Snape change his life and go back to the light side”
@howdyitsmak
@howdyitsmak 3 дня назад
this came out WHILE i was rewatching the ranking video of all the films, blessed be getting this video on my sick day!
@nothingbuttamil8988
@nothingbuttamil8988 2 дня назад
Philosopher stone 6 Chamber of secrets 5 Prisoner of azkaban 3 Goblet of fire 2 Order of phoenix 7 Half blood prince 1 Deathly hallows 4
@Thomas_Ade
@Thomas_Ade 2 дня назад
Books 1. HBP 2. GoF 3. DH 4. PoA 5. PS 6. CoS 7. OoTP Films 1. OoTP 2. DHp2 3. PoA 4. PS 5. CoS 6. DHp1 7. GoF 8. HBP
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