'We're going back to 1947': Tory MP pressed on Sunak's mandatory national service plan

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As Rishi Sunak plans to bring back mandatory national service if he wins the general election, Paul Brand wonders why we're putting this 'burden' on the younger generation.
18-year-olds would have a choice of either joining the military full-time for a year, or volunteering for a weekend every month carrying out a community service.
Speaking to Tory MP, Tobias Ellwood, Paul Brand asks: 'Why are the Tories claiming that Labour would take us back to square one, yet they're taking us back to 1947?'
In response, Elwood says it's because we've entered a 'grim chapter in our history' that we simply must prepare for.
Brand also interviews Naomi Smith, Chief Executive of Best for Britain, who stresses Sunak's plan 'smacks of desperation' and 'feels like a punishment for the young'.
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@beverleyprice7468 4 месяца назад

I am 63 yrs old and 5 mins in and livid on behalf of young people at the arrogance of imposing on a generation that your government have taken so much hope away from now you want them to ‘offer their lives for their country’ - FU!

@yatesy57 4 месяца назад

61 year old here, and I totally agree 👏

@reiw5802 4 месяца назад

👏 👏 👏

@hastekulvaati9681 4 месяца назад

Hey kids. We just spent 14 years gutting the Armed Forces. If there is a war soldiers will have to go into battle in an Uber ride share armed only with a wry sense of humour. Wanna join?

@danielhornby5581 4 месяца назад

Many people wanting younger people to potentially make sacrifices for those who have never been asked to and knew it would never been asked of them either.

@ianhill4585 4 месяца назад

Conscription? I predict a Vietnam war draft evasion will become a thing...... A dinghy over to France will suffice........

@jake751 4 месяца назад

My son is not fighting for a country that has zero respect for their citizens.

@danielcraig4974 4 месяца назад

Come on for brexit, for uncle Boris

@zoltan-zq3xe 4 месяца назад

I can understand that the country is ruined since Blair in 97 and these pathetic weak Tories.

@zoltan-zq3xe 4 месяца назад

Britain has been on rapid decline since 1997 I quite agree.

@col.hertford9855 4 месяца назад

⁠@@zoltan-zq3xeyou seem to forgot to log into your other account to agree with yourself. 🤡

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

it increases the skill shortage UK young citizens would like likely choose to live abroad instead of facing national service here. These days it increases emigration wherever it exists

@goatsummoner 4 месяца назад

As selfish as it seems, I don't want to put my life on the life for a government that has done nothing for the young. I'm well past 18, but I'm still "young". I've worked hard and paid taxes only to be treated poorly.

@lasttango7522 4 месяца назад

@user-SubvurzIV You owe no government anything. The tories have been a sell out. But it was Labour that took us into the Iraq war. So you are mot being srlfish.

@freddywilson 4 месяца назад

Exactly, plus they don't even listen to us. Rishi and his kids should go join the army

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

Putting your life on the line for somebody like sunak !!! How Sick Cant It Get !!!...

@jamesbarbour8400 4 месяца назад

Not to mention that the Government has allowed our Country to be invaded without a single shot being fired in retaliation, in case some sheet wearer gets upset that their 'human' rights are being breached ! What we currently have in the UK, is a Trojan Horse situation of epic proportions, as it's Country wide !

@swanvictor887 4 месяца назад

HIS daughters will be safe in California!! Hypocritical or what?!! @@freddywilson

@riffraff9506 4 месяца назад

Reintroduce national pride, vote a Tory out

@LD-by7ko 4 месяца назад

And put who in?

@m20fuzzle36 4 месяца назад

Voting doesn't work...

@JD83000 4 месяца назад

Great. And replace with whom?

@ianhill4585 4 месяца назад

Relock the asylum ,springs to mind, the Tories are getting more bonkers by the day😮..........

@iskrajackal9049 4 месяца назад

Never mind nationalist, jingoist claptrap, reintroduce a sense of social justice and of uniting against the so-called elites

@scottcuk1 4 месяца назад

As someone with 3 children under 16, there is no way I’d trust the government with their safety.

@JamesHardaker 4 месяца назад

At best they would be making coffee and at worst belittled and abused by the people in charge of them

@Aethul-wd9ke 4 месяца назад

@@JamesHardaker You mean at worst bleeding out missing a limb in some trench

@JamesHardaker 4 месяца назад

@@Aethul-wd9ke 95% would go to a public institution like the police or fire brigade and be branded useless because of the way this scheme has been worded

@real_wakawaka 4 месяца назад

@Aethul-wd9ke 100% last time this was inacted it was pre ww2 and second war started it was pushed from young people (early to mid teens) to 18 to 40. So no thanks! Only person who I can trust is myself and not some country ! Just look at Ukraine

@real_wakawaka 4 месяца назад

@radicalbyte 4 месяца назад

"About time some people do something for the country” - I totally agree, it's about time people like Rishi Sunak start actually paying taxes.

@Emm10063 4 месяца назад

Thank you sir.

@bobbygee1771 4 месяца назад

maybe the national service threshold should be based on income not age, new highest tax band becomes risking your life that would balance things up a bit. Tax avoision becomes a life time subscription to frontline service.

@evidence4all-re6gf 4 месяца назад

Maybe Sunak should work in the Army for a year.

@jake751 4 месяца назад

Only because you're old and wouldn't have to go to a war.

@jake751 4 месяца назад

@@evidence4all-re6gfthey don't have uniforms in children's sizes.

@jayr9952 4 месяца назад

Why should young people be forced to volunteer for a country that offers them nothing.

@Maugirl2 4 месяца назад

This country offers so much that half the world wants to come here!

@tom4381 4 месяца назад

@Maugirl2 Yeah but not for the yt people who live here, they will be the ones who have the privilege of going to war while the newcomers sit with their feet up.

@Jamie-v5o 4 месяца назад

Because flags and kings and stuff.

@sandysimpson4785 4 месяца назад

*THIS, EXACTLY THIS* !!!!🙄🙄🙄

@tom4381 4 месяца назад

@@Jamie-v5o but you don't object if brown people were in favour of these things for themselves.

@stuplant6693 4 месяца назад

As a former soldier and recent reservist, national service is ridiculous. It's emotional nonsense of the Tories thinking we live in the past. Build a better military for the future, don't break international relationships with our neighbours, stop wasting money on corruption with your friends. The army does not want unmotivated people. David Cameron tried this with his volunteering scheme in 2010 to get elected then did nothing. Plus why young people, oh they don't vote. Try doing it with older people you Tory

@dnalor7553 4 месяца назад

Exactly - also, don’t they realise that the UK is a vastly different place to how it was 64 years ago? Society is fragmented, that’s not necessarily a negative per se - it’s just indicative of a more diverse and complicated (and more progressive) society.

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

You talk the truth. Feels to me like a desperate political stunt for the election. It could backfire.

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

Agreed I remember when cameron tried the same thing...

@kityhawk2000 4 месяца назад

I'd also be worried about things like national security. Forcing people to join the military against their will probably isn't going to fill them will a patriotic sense of duty towards the government that has put them in that position. It's also going to be inevitable that is will reinforce class divides as you can bet the people with money and power will be able to get their own children out of it.

@jayr9952 4 месяца назад

Better pay and guaranteed housing or a significant reduction in mortgage payments may incentivise some.

@professorpigeon6517 4 месяца назад

Better idea, why don’t we send the entire Conservative Party

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

That would be perfect ...LoL

@danielcraig4974 4 месяца назад

Yeah to prison

@mariokart6118 4 месяца назад

I’m sure Sunak will be sending his kids.

@Music_Light_Show 4 месяца назад

@professorpigeon6517 There's not many left lol

@franklingoodwin 4 месяца назад

Send them to Rwanda. It's a "safe" country after all

@julianshepherd2038 4 месяца назад

Anything but pay people a proper wage

@james970027 4 месяца назад

Can't do that Julian! Would mean their mates wouldn't be able to buy everything and anything they wanted anymore and may have to actually learn to budget!!!

@tomvandersteen5880 4 месяца назад

This is a disgusting policy, I thought we had moved on from the age of forced labour. Why should you get to order my children to go work for free to repair the institutions that you’ve intentionally run into the ground over last decade? If my kids want to volunteer or join a Public service it will be because they choose to not because these cretins tell them to. If you want young people to feel a sense of civic duty, try making this into a country they can feel proud of again instead of threatening them with prison if they don’t comply. 🤬

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

Very well put.

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

I afraid not, nowadays it's called compulsory volunteering or work exsperence or work placement ...

@owi3693 4 месяца назад

COULD NOT AGRRE WITH YOU MORE

@lizdocherty3067 4 месяца назад

@@jsd8981could also be called free labour for employers to help them improve their profits.

@deadpool3982 4 месяца назад

@@jsd8981 didn’t they get taken to court over that years ago? Swear they lost too but could be misremembering

@craigsphotography46 4 месяца назад

I am very sorry, I used to think Tobias Ellwood is the only serious person on the conservative back benches, it's now plainly obvious he is a clown. You lot cut our defense spending and capability to joke levels. 18 year olds should not be asked for mandatory service for a country that offers them very little

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

Not Tobias Elwood's finest moment. He must have known he was defending an electioneering stunt and he would look like a clown. Personally I would have said "This is an important topic and we need a national conversation BUT now is not the time for a policy like this". But the Tories look to be in panic mode.....'Don't panic Mr Sunak, don't panic!!'

@lizdocherty3067 4 месяца назад

They don't like it up them.😅😅😅

@fin1131 4 месяца назад

Hes a WEF globalist warmonger

@gavinreid9184 4 месяца назад

When I was 18 I got my fees paid, housing was much more affordable, transport much cheaper. This policy robs our youth of another year with no recompense. Utterly unacceptable.

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

It's typical Tory policy.....a hark back to supposedly halcyon days when "conscription made a man of me", but without the resources or reward for the young people forced to do it. A army on the cheap!

@OmarOsman98 4 месяца назад

The world is different than the time you were young. If Trump is elected, NATO will be gone. Europe will be left to fend for herself.

@midge148 4 месяца назад

“Do it for the Nation” states Tobias. What has the nation done for the youth of today within the last 14 years.

@robotrocket1 4 месяца назад

Made houses.... Unaffordable....

@kanedNunable 4 месяца назад

@klaus1085 dont blame immigrants for tory failures ya melt

@robotrocket1 4 месяца назад

@klaus1085 Immigrants get 1% if our budget and I never see them in hospitals taking up all the space as some politicians imply, so it's not like everybody would suddenly be better off if they weren't around.

@Darkscorponok 4 месяца назад

I’m 32 this year and quite frankly I think this is an absolutely appalling conversation to be having this day and age. Absolutely no one should be made to fight if they don’t want to especially for some odious high society that think they own us and we are their play things apart from when they and their way of life needs protecting…

@Beyond_Belief534 4 месяца назад

Fully agree. Some people in this comments section are utterly insane

@alicejwho 4 месяца назад

Very well expressed!

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

well thankfully they wont be elected and it wont happen and thank you tories you will wake up the kids politically to make sure the tories never make as comeback

@norawright807 4 месяца назад

Deflection.

@Darkscorponok 4 месяца назад

@@norawright807 them or my comment?

@scmather333 4 месяца назад

Leave our children alone rishi

@shannybeautifulchannel2410 4 месяца назад

No his right kids lazy

@limpethead 4 месяца назад

Labour are already planning to do this. Building an Army to invade Africa and the Middle East. Why do you think they are emptying it of all its men. Lured away with free stuff. This is just Sunak letting the cat out of the bag. Labour love a war! Labour are well known for taking this country to war.

@kanedNunable 4 месяца назад

@@shannybeautifulchannel2410 why are all you right wingers illiterate? "He's"

@Ezzyazeze 4 месяца назад

Tories: "how do we gurantee older voters, most of whom aren't old enough to have done National Service, vote for us? Lets demonise the young some more! Plus we get to bolster the military on the cheap!"

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

I'd vote for young people to wash my bottom and clean the growths off my feet.....and it isn't going to cost me a penny. Free care. I might even manage to save enough for another cruise around the Med once a year. What a wonderful idea!

@Ezzyazeze 4 месяца назад

@@Sean006 Sounds like someone's voting to have a terrible "accident" 😂

@joseskoks 4 месяца назад

“About time young people do something for the country” -old person that never did National Service

@YellowfinGrouper 4 месяца назад

To be fair - he is a reservist.

@joseskoks 4 месяца назад

@@YellowfinGroupera reservist by choice.

@Ngamer834 4 месяца назад

Long as it isn't THEIR kids I suppose

@syttt7925 4 месяца назад

Keir Starmer was worried about how to get young people out to vote, but now he is going to send a thank you letter to Rishi Sunak instead. This is a great way to get the young vote out for the next 10 years.

@IMBlakeley 4 месяца назад

@@syttt7925 Ha. I thought that too when I heard that nonsense first thing. If I were a teenager that would guarantee my vote going to not the tory.

@sarahbarrett1247 4 месяца назад

More like 1847. They’ll have us all in workhouses with kids running around the streets in rags.

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

Exactly They would love that...

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

Unfortunately I don't think workhouses are too far away in a Tory future. Hopefully Labour can stop the rot. But we are becoming reliant on food banks and cheap labour.

@rewdwarf123 4 месяца назад

That was a very bad year in Ireland...

@janetmalcolm6191 4 месяца назад

The House Of Lords has said this Govt has regressed not progressed this country. Taking it too far back now.

@killneel 4 месяца назад

Ok... Let's also bring back council housing then.

@susannahhunt100 4 месяца назад

That would be a winner, that is why no Party has thought of it.

@janetmalcolm6191 4 месяца назад

More building and apprenticeships might help the young. No they offered them to pensioners waiting for their pension age knowing that would never happen. Not enough available for the young even! They just talk BS.

@susannahhunt100 4 месяца назад

@@janetmalcolm6191 Bringing back Apprenticeships is just common sense.

@Human_Herbivore 4 месяца назад

My dad did national service and was vehemently against it for the rest of his life.

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

sounds a wise man

@idlenavigator4980 4 месяца назад

Tobias, your party has created a country that people are struggling to feel patriotic about. Maybe if your party had spent 15 years making the country a better place, this policy would have been better received?

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

Tobias is right that we need this conversation. But to introduce it now as a cynical election stunt is disgraceful. He should have distanced himself from this policy. Now is not the time. And we need to offer the young people opportunities not force them to do things that we (the older generations) don't want to do. The Tories have lost the plot.

@jayr9952 4 месяца назад

@@Sean006 We don't need this conversation at all. The Tories have decimated the hopes of young people, and now they come with menaces to demand our children fight to protect them.

@col.hertford9855 4 месяца назад

@@Sean006 Tobias ignores the fact when we had national service the highest rate of tax was over 90%. So tax the rich and spend it on the military, create jobs and industry here. Not trying to do it on the effing cheap.

@andrewdobson813 4 месяца назад

Never seen a better reason for 16 year olds to get the vote.

@domispablo7992 4 месяца назад

Co8ncidently what labours proposing which has turned me to be pronlabour now. That one promise for younger people to vote is such a game changer to our democracy's health.

@kanedNunable 4 месяца назад

@@domispablo7992 meanwhile lots of tories pushing to raise voting age to 21!

@cannavaras 4 месяца назад

Morning Tobias...Bournemouth voter here. Dont worry, you will have plenty of time for volunteer work from next month.

@swanvictor887 4 месяца назад

lol!!

@Penfold197 4 месяца назад

"We've got rising authoritarianism..." Yeah, a prime example is this government.

@wrekin 4 месяца назад

A sign of desperation. The man is a joke.

@PaulStargasm 4 месяца назад

And he's one of the sensible ones.

@braxxian 4 месяца назад

You never studied history at school did you?

@pholdway5801 4 месяца назад

@@braxxian No point in history THE BOOKS NEVER HAD THE MAIN POINTS OR THE MAIN AGENTS NAMED. A history book is a cobweb . MOSTLY EMPTY SPACES

@runawayprophet4164 4 месяца назад

@@braxxiana superpower trying to force young people to bolster their standing army is indeed a sign of desperation

@Philljag 4 месяца назад

They won’t be forcing my son to join no army it’s his choice!! 😡😡

@kangomarbles7034 4 месяца назад

He needs to give his life so Randy Andy can live in comfort.

@TheBeardsShow 4 месяца назад

The sad thing is, the old angry tory codgers will fall for this nonsense. Pathetic.

@robmoore396 4 месяца назад

But they already vote Tory, so who else are they pleasing with this? It's a weird one.

@TheBeardsShow 4 месяца назад

@robmoore396 I think that alot of the older ones have fallen out of love with them so I think this is to shepherd them back

@james970027 4 месяца назад

They already vote Tory, I'm going to be blunt - they're dying soon anyhoo, and they've never cared about the truth or honesty anyway - it's the same bunch of old people who will argue that they are always right regardless of how clearly wrong everyone else can see they are.

@byzantium8851 4 месяца назад

Tories talking about values, national ethics? Are they oblivious to the irony?

@YellowfinGrouper 4 месяца назад

It might get the young vote out- to vote against it. This could be the solution to young people not being engaged with politics.

@ardouisur 4 месяца назад

This. I think it will loose them more votes than it wins.

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

It could backfire. But I expect they have crunched the numbers and factored in young people voting apathy. But this could create a social media storm, which is impossible to factor in.

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

i can see this giving labour another 5 percent

@romanticlizard 4 месяца назад

Tories are so desperate

@bobbygee1771 4 месяца назад

desperate to lose apparently

@lewdawg92 4 месяца назад

Why shouldn't we be prepared for an inevitable war?

@quittalkingpish 4 месяца назад

@@lewdawg92 Lead by example then, Lewis. Go sign up. Come back to us when you have.

@danielhornby5581 4 месяца назад

@@lewdawg92because there is not an “inevitable” war at all. Thanks for the fearmongering but a lot of us are not willing to engage in this attempt to bring further authoritarianism to the UK.

@divinity176 4 месяца назад

@@lewdawg92 No inevitable war. And if you want to prepare, rebuild the armed forces. Conscription isn't going to fly.

@scmather333 4 месяца назад

Youngsters will come back in body bags more trauma for parents

@rchas1023 4 месяца назад

Civic duty? What example has the Tory Party given us?

@martinturtak4901 4 месяца назад

Devious despicable Tories truly disgusting!!

@LD-by7ko 4 месяца назад

And what about Labour please?

@paul8161 4 месяца назад

@LD-by7ko what about them?

@LD-by7ko 4 месяца назад

Please please please! Let us know who are better? 🙏

@LD-by7ko 4 месяца назад

@@paul8161 You've just answered a question with a question?

@paul8161 4 месяца назад

@@LD-by7ko that's up to you to make that decision no one else.🤣

@neworleans75 4 месяца назад

The military don't want this. Training people that don't want to be there is a nightmare

@wayneperry7413 4 месяца назад

Somewhat irrelevant anyway, pretty sure about 90% of 18 year olds would take up the once a month charity work, rather than the military service for a year, but I take your point.

@kerrywiggins 4 месяца назад

Charities don't want it either. Most volunteers are a drain on their resources. They need training and supervision. There has to be care given about access to vulnerable people and confidential documentation. Charities support volunteering as it is part of their remit, not because it benefits them (except where the volunteer becomes competent through long service).

@Skygrey2943 4 месяца назад

I'm sick to death of social policy that is cribbed from 'The Daily Mail'.

@Ngamer834 4 месяца назад

That will be the Tories manifesto a copy of the Daily Fail

@danielcraft1971 4 месяца назад

Nothing the Tories say matters. They will be gone in a few months and we can all forget about them for hopefully a generation.

@jamiecapes2644 4 месяца назад

Election day is in 5 and a half weeks.

@izzytrue8630 4 месяца назад

Let the politicians do something for our country before they ask anything of us!!!

@barryclough9648 4 месяца назад

Obviously SUNAK does not want to be elected prime minister.

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

It is quite clever and cynical at the same time. It appeals to older voters who vote more than the young and look back 'fondly' on anything from the past. It also impacts solely the young who probably aren't ever going to vote Tory in upcoming election and don't vote anyway in large numbers. It's sad, it's desperate, the public will see straight through it.....hopefully.

@birdnestratfest 4 месяца назад

he doesn't want to be the leader who led britian into WW3 that's the plan from the top. thank me later

@romeisfallingagain 4 месяца назад

he doesnt want to be a war time prime minister, and we are in war. andrew bridgen already exposed it

@walterjames9721 4 месяца назад

I am not convinced the election will be held on the 4th of July '24. They will start a bigger w a r b4 that day.

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

@@Sean006 conscription age is a group larger than you think and the too young to vote are future voters too do this for one election even if it worked it would cost you infuture voters and the old that supported it would soon be dead and gone its IDIOCY

@michaelpegg4288 4 месяца назад

How does a whole generation of 18 year olds working for Charity once a month bolster the armed forces?

@notpub 4 месяца назад

Feed the homeless who will be on the front; perhaps?

@lizdocherty3067 4 месяца назад

Or help charities that support ex-service people as this government does nothing to help them.

@scmather333 4 месяца назад

And I think it should be the choice of the young person to make that decision not rishi to make decisions for them

@jzilla1234 4 месяца назад

there's a 1930s feel and this time the uk is cosplaying as germany

@tom4381 4 месяца назад

How do you even come to this conclusion 😂

@epicphailure88 4 месяца назад

@@tom4381He's saying the British government are the bad guys this time around.

@tom4381 4 месяца назад

@@epicphailure88 Yeah, how?

@kanedNunable 4 месяца назад

@@tom4381 by using our eyes. we arent all tory simps like you.

@tom4381 4 месяца назад

@kanedNunable I don't and have never voted for the Tories. I would however love to know how they are in any way a National Socialist outfit in any meaningful way. I'm sure with your big brain and beady eyes you have all the information to help me figure out just how they are like 1930's German political party.

@MrLillywhite2011 4 месяца назад

Send their children first

@ignoranceisbliss6259 4 месяца назад

National service never did me any harm... Mainly because I was born after 1944.

@Beyond_Belief534 4 месяца назад

Forcing your will onto others Yeah, it did you no harm at all lol

@magnuscarlsson9969 4 месяца назад

@@Beyond_Belief534 I'm rather biased, but honestly i saw it just as a continuation of school. I did mine in 2005 before Sweden dismantled our mandatory service requirements... I went into the field medic program and basically more or less went trough a limited nurse education with military elements. Conscription don't have to be a bad thing depending on how you decide to set it up. I got offered top of the line education and decent pay, sure i wasn't allowed to make a choice if i wanted to go or not but there was choices to be made within the system. A lot of people went into civil service programs and became electricians, firefighters, medics, mechanics etc. which ain't useless skills to have and for many it was just a continuation of their planned education anyway.

@jakegibbs6003 4 месяца назад

@@Beyond_Belief534 the ahh, joke flew right over your head there, didnt it bud?

@lizdocherty3067 4 месяца назад

@@magnuscarlsson9969I'm guessing you have never attended a Tory work experience programme.

@vincentvangogh8092 4 месяца назад

@@magnuscarlsson9969 yeah but your country doesnt let their service personnel live on the streets when they come back

@neilfeder4625 4 месяца назад

What do the 18 year olds get out of it? In the US if you do military service you get free University education and if you extend your stay in the army, you could be in reciept of a discount on housing. Considering the young have had their prospects cut and cut and cut, what do they get?

@danielcampbell3686 4 месяца назад

What the tories always give empty promises, they take everything of value from you, and then kick you in the gutter

@salkoharper2908 4 месяца назад

The young get a chance to die in some far off land for rich men in the city to increase their stock portfolio or enable the price of oil to increase. Lok at Iraq and Afghanistan... At this point I would rather fight the Tories and there voters than any foreigns.

@sasserine 4 месяца назад

"The world us facing rising authoritarianism", says MP from authoritarian party.

@hastekulvaati9681 4 месяца назад

If national service is so vital why are they feverishly scribbling the proposal 10 minutes before their homework is due.

@simonbamford8441 4 месяца назад

Lunatic Party - The Tories.

@alicejwho 4 месяца назад

I will never EVER vote Conservative again. EVER.

@Beyond_Belief534 4 месяца назад

Why vote EVER?

@alicejwho 4 месяца назад

I'm not voting this time around, and neither is my 80yr old mother. The so-called pandemic absolutely woke me up! Yes...about time!

@annnickolls8741 4 месяца назад

Never did

@KidarWolf 4 месяца назад

And your fellow Brits will surely be grateful for that. This country cannot afford the Tories ever again in my lifetime. They have gutted everything, and given nothing back, and then have the gall to demand sacrifices of everyone but themselves.

@janetmalcolm6191 4 месяца назад

@@alicejwhoIf you waste your vote it won't help get this lot out!

@NibberKSmooth 4 месяца назад

Forced labour. No f*cking chance.

@samsoncooper1 4 месяца назад

"Over the last 30 years we have had it increasingly easy" No - You have had it increasingly easy! The young have had it increasingly difficult in that time

@alien4422 4 месяца назад

The rich people who have spent fourteen years taking our money want our young people to protect them. 🤣

@drummingtildeath 4 месяца назад

As a parent of an 11 year old, would I vote to make my son join the army!? Of course not. That's insane. I'd like him to get to 19 with all his limbs and no PTSD thanks.

@lipkinasl 4 месяца назад

Utterly ridiculous! If I 'd been told I had to do national service I would have point-blank refused. There should be no armed forces. Use diplomacy to tell the world to do what you want. And if they don't then use United Nations and international criminal courts to enforce what is needed.This is labour on the cheap, because the Government can't be bothered to properly fund the NHS.

@ThreeB78 4 месяца назад

I suspect that the Tories are actually terrified of winning at this point

@SnakeEater776 4 месяца назад

In a couple days "The tories plan to improve cost of living by introducing natural selection and regular purges to our daily lives"

@Jessjoe1956 4 месяца назад

I wonder if this will apply to Sunaks kids ?

@grahamdhv3812 4 месяца назад

They'll disappear to America.

@aNewbPlays 4 месяца назад

What a 🔔🔚 is this tobias, he constantly talks over Naomi when she says things he doesn't like but when he's talking bs and she talks he throws a mini tantrum...eff the tories

@quittalkingpish 4 месяца назад

One rule for me but not for thee. Straight out the Tory handbook.

@aNewbPlays 4 месяца назад

@quittalkingpish Guaranteed if it happened there would be a sudden outbreak of thing's like bone spurs amongst 18yos of the tory/rich.

@francesbrown5116 4 месяца назад

Didn't he get a telling off for his praise of the Taliban on a visit to Afghanistan lol .

@Sean006 4 месяца назад

They talked over each other. She was clearly passionate about this topic. It would have been interesting to hear how he could defend the indefensible but he spent most of his time complaining about being interrupted. But I suppose we got the gist of things.

@JamesMurphy1984 4 месяца назад

Used to have respect for Tobias Elwood as a voice of reason within the Tory party but after listening to his frankly arrogant sweeping aside of the argument that the young, having to go through generational unfairness that his Boomer generation has benefitted greatly from, he’s totally lost my respect. If you’re expecting the young to support your policies and instill the values you respect then you have respect them by introducing policies that will benefit not take away from their lives. Tories are TAKE TAKE TAKE from the younger generations.

@lehelisbored 4 месяца назад

I would hope that people lost respect for Elwood when he produced that concerning and frankly idiotic pro-Taliban advert.

@tug1345 4 месяца назад

I'm 45, I've worked all my life since 16, it took me 20 years to equal the wages my dad was on when he retired, and that was 14 years after he retired, wages for normal workers have been cutback a lot in the last 30 years

@coreymwamba5417 4 месяца назад

Paying tax is doing something for your nation. Something Tories consistently avoid.

@Welsh2505 4 месяца назад

Well done Naomi smith.

@michaelspencer6318 4 месяца назад

Bring it on and us 18 year olds will show you exactly what reaction you will get.

@adam8268 4 месяца назад

Which is…

@gm9460 4 месяца назад

@@adam8268mass no compliance I expect. To which the government will not be able to respond. It’s unenforceable

@kanedNunable 4 месяца назад

make sure you all vote then!

@Michael-kf7gm 4 месяца назад

Why should young people be forced to give to their country when their country refuses to give to them? Young people should not be forced to give their time and lives to the military when it is not young people starting these wars in the first place. Older people started the wars. They should fight their own battles and leave young people out of it.

@drasticplasticaustin 4 месяца назад

In 1947 I think British Politics would have had considerably more integrity and credibility. These days its an enbarrasing and cringeworthy shambles and something of which We as a Nation should be deeply ashamed. When I see our Party Leaders on TV giving it like they're the Nations saving grace and Your vote for them will somehow be of remedial value, it turns My stomach.

@maneshipocrates2264 4 месяца назад

The Tories should vote against themselves

@claudiafigueiredo4979 4 месяца назад

House for youn..no Work training..no High wages..no Uni fees scrap..no Better schools..no War yes lets spend the money we can not find for the rest

@danieloliver4558 4 месяца назад

A lot of people are for others doing national services. Tories have already taken us to war, they just ain't told us yet.

@andrewdeakins9945 4 месяца назад

Signs of a desperate and an unholy immoral bunch. I'm not a massive fan of labour either and I think there is a wider issue in politics but what I have witnessed over the last decade has been disgusting. This government has systematically destroyed the economy along with public services and wants the youth to do the work for nothing. I didn't think they could top zero hours contracts but they some how managed. The wellbeing of people is linked to actually being able to have some disposable income left and not feeling as though you are simply existing. Trying doing that after coming out of university with a 40 grand debt for trying to better yourself then finding having a family / house is unaffordable. What planet do these idiots live on?

@gregjones-x8c 4 месяца назад

The economy was destroyed in 2010, no money left, a legacy of mountainous debts due to uncosted, unfunded Brown spending. Unlike 1997, books balanced,...large Tory budget surpluses inherited by New Labour.

@jeevan8197 4 месяца назад

We should test this policy on the MPs who want to pursue it.

@BillyBobJoeSnr 4 месяца назад

Brexit was another cause of international instability.... The expert is very narrow minded.

@mikusb9011 4 месяца назад

What is the the benefits of Brexit??? Sewage into the rivers and sea?? Scraping bonus cap for bankers to benefit the super rich?? Extra cost to check the incoming goods in the UK?? Leaving the Erasmus program which benefits the young people??

@lehelisbored 4 месяца назад

@klaus1085Adding some cry-laugh emojis doesn't make your comment seem more clever and triumphant.

@BillyBobJoeSnr 4 месяца назад

@@mikusb9011 Yes the Tory party are chasing the over 80 votes as the youth generally are apathetic towards voting, but the oldies are always first out.

@traceymorris1379 4 месяца назад

My grandson has done 2 years in the forces...the WHOLE platoon was finished on ill health because of the intense training...my grandson pressure fractures in his spine and loss of hearing in both ears 😠😠😠

@lindacurrie8817 4 месяца назад

I feel very sad for your grandson. Having a bad spine and loss of hearing will be with him for the rest of his life. Do hope he maintains the health he has as the NHS will not be able to treat him if that should be required The Tories have a lot to answer for and yet answer they do not. Despicable. horrible vile creatures.

@simonwood1402 4 месяца назад

The Tories have done so much to bring about this 1930's situation (Russian money for Brexit)...

@francesbrown5116 4 месяца назад

The EU army .

@simonwood1402 4 месяца назад

@@francesbrown5116 if only there was one because Tory Brexit Britain hasn't got so much as a penknife for defence 🖊 🤡 🇬🇧

@EricRashid-u3b 4 месяца назад

I'm a 60 yr and wouldn't be willing to train in any part of the military where arrogant rich leaders will be hiding in their bunkers whilst I have to risk life and limb...

@cameronfateweaver2206 4 месяца назад

It feels like the 1940's because most of people voting for the Tories are obsessed with the 1940's. The british empire is gone and will never, ever, return.

@ignoranceisbliss6259 4 месяца назад

Do you remember when bojo put the son of a kgb into the house of lords? It's great to hear someone who supported that being concerned for what is best for the nation. That nation presumably being Russia.

@grahamdhv3812 4 месяца назад

Also refused to publish the report on Russia.

@jdolanout 4 месяца назад

Elwood is right that it feels like the 1930s. Particularly in how his party and their government treat and talk about minorities.

@dnalor7553 4 месяца назад

Ditto those that insist on using terms such as ‘illegals’ or (for the even less well educated) ‘dingy people’.

@cjwhiterabbit1 4 месяца назад

Has anybody asked the Army if they want them ? Or have the infrastructure to deal / cope with a several thousand raw recruits ? ... The alternative being which Tory donor gets the set up / out sourcing of the civilian side .... am sure there's a plan for graft and corruption around a whole swathe of supply / service contracts on an epic level

@steveharrison4176 4 месяца назад

Ellwood condradicts himself ,let him do it along with his tory mates

@mjrhitchin 4 месяца назад

How many posh kids would end up doing national service in the military?

@lindacurrie8817 4 месяца назад

Have to make sure they do. If the media and press do not ask that question then citizens must force them to and do the same re Tories. Their children as in young adults have no more value than working class children young adults.

@finleyplympton 4 месяца назад

It's wrong. It's disgusting.

@SarahTheNearlyInSP 4 месяца назад

Easy for Ellwood to say as he never had to serve under conscription!!

@lawrenceblunden428 4 месяца назад

The majority of "champions" for this policy are people who didn't actually have to do compulsory national service.

@Truthseeker1515 4 месяца назад

It's insane. As a French citizen, I completed my national service in 1996. I was in one of the last contingents as it was abrogated in 1998. (1) Those with connections either did not do it or landed in cushy jobs. (2) Graduates were treated as cheap, educated labour by professional NCOs, most of whom did not even have the baccalaureate (3) Those graduates who expended their national service by 3 months for officer training were considered as worse than privates by professional NCOs. (4) That one year (it was 12 months at the time) delayed entry into the world of work. (5) who would want to serve for an institution that serves greedy politicians who wage illegal wars? There is no such thing as society anyway, who knows best than the Tories!

@lincslegend6936 4 месяца назад

Naomi Smith 👏👏👏 thankyou for talking sense.

@FRU.No.1 4 месяца назад

Every MP and Lords children need to spend 18months in the armed forces no exceptions, short of disabilities. Then we can talk about national service

@netyoda 4 месяца назад

Without automatically getting into officer training

@danielcampbell3686 4 месяца назад

No officer's just privates like everyone else, let then earn rank

@davidjames2910 4 месяца назад

The difference is that, in the late 1930s, the UK government fought against fascism instead of promoting it.

@DaBigBoo_ 4 месяца назад

you fought the wrong war

@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo 4 месяца назад

We can’t even supply and run a small professional army properly… Sunak is in cloud cuckoo land 😂

@Anmeteor9663 4 месяца назад

We could, but the political choice is not to. Same as things like de privatisation and adequate funding of the NHS or local councils, social housing and on and on. All political choices and not a question of funding. Government can create and spend as much money as it wants. Just look at where the Government borrowing is now compared to 2010. They spaffed that money on themselves and their mates in a wealth transfer from the future taxes of the people. They didn't spend it on the things we need, defence, schools, hospitals, transport infrastructure, utilities..... Those are all just vehicles for the money transfer. See the water and rail companies use of our subsidy money to pay the massive dividends to shareholders and board members bonuses. Sorry for the rant😅

@enquirer2.0 4 месяца назад

He's desperate for this because he got beaten up by a group of kids he told off in the park

@mikewallace1723 4 месяца назад

So we’re going to train them with even better fighting skills 🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂

@jsd8981 4 месяца назад

You read my mind !!! LoL😅

@Base612 4 месяца назад

Maybe the UN would be in a better position to lead the world if the US and UK stopped trying to discredit it.

@AntonSmyth-od6rc 4 месяца назад

We dont have a housing crisis, if we have no young people. Problem solved.

@mum5276 4 месяца назад

What a horrific thought!

@ianchisholm5756 4 месяца назад

National Sevice was abolished in 1960 because the army was sick of spending money and time training young men who didn't want to be there, and because the public were horrified when young conscripts came back from Asia in body bags. This is just throwing a bone to older voters, very few of whom actually did National Service.

@TheSimonhardacre 4 месяца назад

Perhaps for young offenders, knife wielding gang members could be conscripted into national service, but the armed forces surely wouldn’t want them.

@danielcampbell3686 4 месяца назад

Bad lads army, all over again lol

@robertcreighton4635 4 месяца назад

Keep the army professional. Tories are really out of sensible ideas. Rishi sunk 😂

@mikewallace1723 4 месяца назад

Who’s going to train them? Oh yes the overstretched army🙄🙄🙄 pathetic policy 🤬🤬🤬

@satyasyasatyasya5746 4 месяца назад

There's a pre-war feel to the world because that is where things are going. The Fash is back, and there's massive instability on the horizon, so...

@ClipMania247 4 месяца назад

If you think il put my son or daughter through that you’ve got another thing coming

@Bert52 4 месяца назад

My daughters generation were let down so much during covid missing school and getting half an education and now this!!!!

@silver4831 4 месяца назад

Let's be real the Internet is a better teacher than most actual teaching staff.

@alvinburrell 4 месяца назад

So parents with Children under 17 - vote for your children to be the new soldiers on the front line in the event of conflict, whether they want to or not. Vote Winner!