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A note to all who post here. This is MY thread!!!! I have just had to block a user and remove his comments because he was abusive. You are entitled to express your opinion BUT I INSIST that you respect me and others. I hope I do not have to do this again. I HATE it!!!
Judgement at Nuremberg Spencer Tracy as the US judge in this great scene (to match Lancaster's speech) in which he lays out moral responsibility for the Holocaust. Pay attention, Sudan!!!

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@ToughXArmy69
@ToughXArmy69 13 лет назад
Spencer Tracy's great speech was done in one take. Visitors from other sets and stages came over to Universal to see this great actor at work. At the conclusion there was a standing rousing ovation. Magnificent.
@BlaineLisner-qt9kr
@BlaineLisner-qt9kr 7 лет назад
Everything about this movie and Annie hoffman,'s script unforgettable! Magnificent.
@barbarabaldwin7120
@barbarabaldwin7120 5 лет назад
Thanks for this information.I never knew. How wonderful!!!!!!
@margeshilling7983
@margeshilling7983 4 года назад
Spencer Tracy was a flawless actor. The very best.
@ddmck1972
@ddmck1972 Год назад
Probably one of the most powerful speeches ever in a movie. I heard Spencer Tracy did this in one take. Brilliant actor.
@billhuber2964
@billhuber2964 7 лет назад
spencer tracy came from old school . class , real class .
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 11 лет назад
You are welcome! Judgment at Nuremberg was that rarest of all Hollywood events: a star-studded blockbuster that was also a superb movie.
@montanagal6958
@montanagal6958 Год назад
This needs revisiting badly.
@angelodarden342
@angelodarden342 9 лет назад
Isn't it amazing that you get such high drama and focus without any music to give cues on when the dramatic moment is occurring? Just from the actors performing their lines.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 9 лет назад
This was my favorite speech of this entire, classic film. How many actors today could have delivered it with the natural eloquence and gravitas of Spencer Tracy in the twilight of his career? Thanks for posting.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 9 лет назад
You're welcome! Gregory Peck also had a commanding voice and presence and James Earl Jones still does...but there aren't too many who can do that for sure. Sidney Poitier maybe is another. Of course, it helps when you have great material and Tracy did.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 9 лет назад
saulpaulus As an actor myself, you must always consider casting not only the best actors, but the best actors for the PART. Greg Peck was far too young, Poitier and Jones are black. This role called for a " an old backwoods hick from Maine," and none but Tracy specifically filled the bill.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 9 лет назад
tiffsaver Yes, of course. I was thinking more generally of the vocal abilities of the actors although at 45, Peck probably could have been made up to take the role.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 9 лет назад
saulpaulus Better still, he would have made a perfect prosecuting attorney instead of Widmark, who I thought was the weakest of the all-star lineup.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 9 лет назад
tiffsaver Maybe. He'd have had to approach it differently. Widmark was the agitator who got under everybody's skin. Don't see Peck playing that sort of role. Heard either the producer or the director interviewed some years ago when the show was reprised on Broadway and he thought Lancaster was the weak link.
@snafulife1772
@snafulife1772 7 лет назад
IT'S Sooo Important what he is saying!!!! I nation must stand on principle at all times! Through hell or high water!! When things are so confusing that you don't know what is up or down. WE must always stand for TRUTH, JUSTICE, and THE VALUE OF A SINGLE HUMAN LIFE!!!
@allenjones3130
@allenjones3130 Год назад
AMEN!!!
@mello22u
@mello22u 4 года назад
Thank you for this post. I saw this movie when I was 11 yr. old. Now at 70 I am so grateful it was made. I never forgot "Were we blind" part. It all started with "Love of Country". No...America is not blind to the erosion of our culture and will come out better for it in the end.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 4 года назад
It was an incredible movie. Glad you appreciated the post. As becomes clear later in the movie & in this speech, the movie was a critique not only of Nazism but McCarthyism as well.
@gerardmclaughlin2584
@gerardmclaughlin2584 Год назад
One of the best movies ever made and needs more credit than its ever been given. Needs to be shown more often
@Femsa2012
@Femsa2012 Год назад
There's not a weak performance by anyone in the cast, always the mark of a great movie. Maximillian Schell won a deserved Best Actor Oscar for his role as the passionate German defense lawyer but everyone else is very strong. Burt Lancaster and Spencer Tracy, obviously but Marlena Dietrich is powerful as the widow of a war criminal, William Shatner is poised as Tracy's aide-de-camp. Werner Klemperer (better known as the incompetent Colonel Klink in "Hogan's Heroes") is well-suited for his role as the most bigoted of the defendants. Richard Widmark, Judy Garland, Montgomery Clift, all of them just outstanding in smaller roles.
@mattirealm
@mattirealm 4 года назад
Just a fantastic acting school in this fine movie. A star studded cast, but no massive ego is seen onscreen. Every actor/actress just kills it in this film. And the subject matter must never be forgotten. A grave and deep film, but it holds up after 50 plus years. If you haven't watched this, do yourself a favor and rent it soon. The 3 hours are paced really well and pull you into the story.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 4 года назад
Absolutely agree! Some years ago, I went to see a Broadway rendition of it with Schell in the part of Judge Janning played by Burt Lancaster in the movie. The producer or director of the movie was involved in the play and was interviewed. He mocked Lancaster's performance suggesting that it was wooden and pro forma. The play was a disappointment. The movie, including Lancaster's performance, was not.
@mattirealm
@mattirealm 4 года назад
@@billboth4814 Definitely one of my favorite actors ever, Lancaster. His speech in JAN is one of the best ever; frankly so is Schell's for that matter. I rarely see such movies where everybody just kills it in their respective role. Even though it is fantasy, Once Upon A Time In The West also has massive performances from all actors/actresses in it. That movie might be the best Charles Bronson ever did; Hard Times is also arguably his best performance. Henry Fonda kills it, but I still think nothing can ever top the movies Fonda did in the 1940's, and especially his fine works with John Ford and William Wellman. And mocking Lancaster? Clearly the person you were speaking of never watched him in The Train, or the Oscar winning Elmer Gantry. Understated sells Burt's character amazingly well in Judgement at Nuremberg.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 7 лет назад
A note to all who post here. This is MY thread!!!! I have just had to block a user and remove his comments because he was abusive. You are entitled to express your opinion BUT I INSIST that you respect me and others. I hope I do not have to do this again. I HATE it!!!
@docmalthus
@docmalthus 5 лет назад
@Jack Wehrung Or frei sprechen, as it was known in the good old days.
@chrisbowen9043
@chrisbowen9043 4 года назад
Are you 4 years old?
@angelamwatts
@angelamwatts 16 лет назад
Although this was only a movie, this speech was one of the most powerful I have ever heard. We must keep in mind that when law becomes corrupt, sadistic and criminal, it is up to each individual to stand up, speak out and fight for JUSTICE. Life, love, liberty and justice must ALWAYS prevail against a corrupt government!!! Every individual owes it to our fellow man to stand up for crimes against humanity! If we don't learn from this tragedy we are doomed to repeat it.
@exposethenwo6491
@exposethenwo6491 5 месяцев назад
Tracy wasn't acting. He was directly from the heart.
@johnfriendly5358
@johnfriendly5358 8 лет назад
Great movie.
@seanlally7384
@seanlally7384 2 года назад
These words have become more relevent recently in the face of "COVID health precautions."
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
Yes, too many people think that their personal freedom is of greater value than that of the lives they endanger.
@seanlally7384
@seanlally7384 2 года назад
@@billboth4814 Too many refuse to accept that their messiah is actually a wolf in sheep's clothing.
@LilithoftheCaves
@LilithoftheCaves 11 лет назад
Thank you for posting this speech. Always worth hearing again.
@alcd6333
@alcd6333 4 года назад
Great concluding statement from a powerful film. I enjoy courtroom dramas since they often invite the viewers to think about the proceedings. This is one of the very best.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
Concluding stattement from the trial. This is the concluding statement from the film and it is jawdropping: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jRSw_0zpNE8.html
@MrBodypro8
@MrBodypro8 12 лет назад
One of my favorite movies. Tracy is a great actor. There were many great performances in this movie. I've watched it many times. If the Japanese had an atomic bomb they would have dropped it on NY. Relativism is a facile argument. It turned the Japanese into a peace loving and industrious nation for the next 67 years. And they got massive aid from the US to rebuild their country. Was it a horror? Yes indeed.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 3 года назад
By 1961 Spence was wearing down and only making about one film a year but he never let up on his professionalism. One of the best ever.
@Sbamabelle
@Sbamabelle 5 лет назад
sadly, his words still resonate in this day and age. Humans need to treat one another as they want to be treated. No race is superior to any other. It's really that simple......it is.
@nancycatania7763
@nancycatania7763 4 года назад
Very true during the turbulent times we are going through
@mohdjunaid787
@mohdjunaid787 3 года назад
Country is what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult.
@NaokoSword
@NaokoSword 8 лет назад
Everything has value. Everyone matters.
@montanagal6958
@montanagal6958 Год назад
some are more equal than others...
@paulwaldrop2262
@paulwaldrop2262 Год назад
FInally saw this movie. Great movie.
@genehenrylindgren
@genehenrylindgren 5 лет назад
it is one of the finest film ever made
@Enkarashaddam
@Enkarashaddam 2 года назад
One of the most important films ever made
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
Important and best.
@Bodie007
@Bodie007 4 года назад
The courtroom provides a good setting for high drama. The characters have nothing to interact with beyond each other.
@davids.3534
@davids.3534 2 года назад
The greatest screen actor of all time, bar none. Absolute genius.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
Surely one of the greatest.
@stevenhall2408
@stevenhall2408 Год назад
American judges today need to see this movie, many are walking the path of these German judges.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 11 лет назад
EXCELLENT comment! Totally agree!
@kimmylovesvintage3931
@kimmylovesvintage3931 7 лет назад
Who only watches these to see dietrich? I do! I love dietrich!
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 16 лет назад
Judgment at Nuremberg. You should watch it. An allstar cast, superb script, and knockout performances. It is almost as much an attack on McCarthyism as on Nazism.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 16 лет назад
Before the people of the world, let it now be noted that this is what we stand for: justice, truth, and the value of a single human being.
@vasantinamdar2204
@vasantinamdar2204 5 лет назад
A great movie superbly acted and directed. A collector's item . Stanley Kramer at his best.
@larry1824
@larry1824 Год назад
Spence kept the movie grounded 😅
@madeleinebaier5347
@madeleinebaier5347 4 года назад
Bravo, Mr. Tracy. I don't have the words.
@sheiladesoysa3157
@sheiladesoysa3157 2 года назад
Spencer Tracy and maximillian Schell were just brilliant. This level of acting is rarely seen these days. The script was flawless. Great movie.
@1956paterson
@1956paterson 3 года назад
Claude Raines played the part of the judge in the Playhouse 90 production of Judgment At Nuremberg that preceded this movie. Claude Raines performed the role very well. And Maximilian Schell played the same role as the defence attorney in the Playhouse 90 version and so he was asked to play the same role in the movie version.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 3 года назад
Max played Janning in the 2001 Broadway play that I went to see. It was a disappointment but anything would have been compared to this.
@marce2409
@marce2409 2 года назад
Man, It must have been terribly difficult to pick Maximilian Schell over this amazing monologue by Spencer Tracy.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
It was loaded w/ incredible performances. Judy Garland was nominated for best supporting actress and Montgomery Clift for best supporting actor.
@MG123BLD
@MG123BLD 9 лет назад
So Powerful!!!
@wrybreadspread
@wrybreadspread Год назад
Judgement At Nuremberg. The name of this movie should be lifted up and proclaimed. Like Gone With The Wind, Citizen Kane, and Casablanca.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 Год назад
Haven't seen CK but would rate this far better than the other 2.
@donallally4892
@donallally4892 Год назад
Spencer Treacy, Richard Widmark, Burt Lancaster, nough said they didn't need music or lights or anything else, brilliant stuff
@leeshepherd2891
@leeshepherd2891 6 лет назад
Timeless.
@michsylvan
@michsylvan 11 лет назад
Agreed!!!!
@varasuetamminga9519
@varasuetamminga9519 8 лет назад
I suppose Spencer Tracy represents International Law which has been evolving for 400 years beginning at the Hague with Gropius. I don't think the end of WWII with Truman's victory was Turkey. I'm glad our coalition won and I hope their legacy the United Nations remains true to these ideals..
@DannyEastVillage
@DannyEastVillage 3 года назад
So much of what is sifted in this movie is tragically relevant to what is happening in the United States of America today--October, 16, 2020--some two and a half weeks before a national election..
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 3 года назад
We certainly have a president who doesn't seem to value human life.
@izregistered
@izregistered 3 года назад
What an idiotic statement to make.
@izregistered
@izregistered 3 года назад
@@billboth4814 definitely agree, Biden has no respect for unborn human life, plus he’s got over 40k American Covid deaths under his belt already.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 3 года назад
@@izregistered He has plenty of respect for human life, far more than the "president" that preceded him. He simply does not believe that it is the government's business to invade womens bodies. However many Covid deaths have taken place since Jn 20 have really nothing to do with his policies as they have not had time to be implemented.
@izregistered
@izregistered 3 года назад
@@billboth4814 excuses Bill excuses.
@tripletxtreme
@tripletxtreme 16 лет назад
What movie is this from? I am inspired to watch.
@Atreus21
@Atreus21 2 года назад
Revisiting this since Roe, at last, is defeated. The value of a single human being.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 2 года назад
Used to be Pro Life but noticed Pro Life pols didn't care much about babies after they left the womb. Safe, legal, rare is my view now.
@steved8053
@steved8053 4 года назад
excellent
@angelamwatts
@angelamwatts 16 лет назад
I did know that this trial is a true story. Is this the actual speech that the judge spoke at the original trial because I have never seen this trial. I saw the most infamous trial when they sentenced Goering and the others but not this trial.
@Hooleo123
@Hooleo123 11 лет назад
This video needs to have been played over and over again when the debate about torturing prisoners at Guantanamo was going on. What do we want our country to be?
@danielgarcia-tn5iv
@danielgarcia-tn5iv Год назад
IHET WERE THE GREATEST ACTOS HE AND RONALD COLMAN ,,,,,,,,,,,,
@marilynarmstrong5237
@marilynarmstrong5237 2 года назад
What happened to us that we no longer believe this?
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 4 года назад
5:37, "the value of a single human being." That fictional statement of this movie is not just humanitarian, but Biblical. Every single human is important, because at the Great Day of Judgment, God Almighty is going judge EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING who has every lived without exception!
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 15 лет назад
220,000 died in those events, about the same number as the Japanese killed in China from biological weapons. Overall, the Japanese murdered about 10 million people in WW II--a war that, in the Pacific at least, that they started. Their criminal regime had to be ended & we had to nuke or invade to do that. An invasion would have killed millions. All wars are crimes & those that start them bear the primary guilt for all that happens. In WW II, that would be Germany & Japan.
@clairevancutsem6457
@clairevancutsem6457 4 года назад
I love this film. Horrible subject The Hollaucost.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 14 лет назад
@kicktotheballs Japan made inquiries with the Russians on terms that would have left the military in power. That was unacceptable. Your comments in another post which has been removed are also unacceptable. I do not mind if others disagree with me, but i will not tolerate crude language or insults.
@cenisantos1052
@cenisantos1052 4 года назад
IT IS THE BEST VERDICT.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 16 лет назад
I will try again to post a response. This is a movie about an actual event, the Nazi judges trial.
@barbarabaldwin7120
@barbarabaldwin7120 5 лет назад
You only need go to YOU Tube, view the whole actual trial with death camp footage, and then watch Spencer Tracy and Burt Lancaster, bring to life the personages in the fine , fine film. That is all.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 15 лет назад
It isn't a matter of reciprocation, although a lot of Americans wanted revenge. It is simply a matter that the Japanese militarists had to be shown that surrender was the only option. The worst firebombings the world had seen, some far more deadly than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, had not convinced them.
@michaelmcgovern8110
@michaelmcgovern8110 2 года назад
Teach this to the Trumpistas before they do this to us...
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 15 лет назад
Untrue. Some were willing to discuss surrender on their terms, not ours. Japan was preparing a suicidal resistance that would have killed millions. Even AFTER Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the militarists tried to prevent the Emperor from giving his surrender message by staging what would have amounted to a palace coup if it had succeeded. The Soviets are only relevant in that the US wanted Japan to surrender before they (the Soviets) could conquer occupy large parts of Japanese territory.
@frannyzooey11
@frannyzooey11 10 лет назад
So why do we have the death penalty ?
@johnfriendly5358
@johnfriendly5358 8 лет назад
+Jane Doe The murderers must answer for what they have earned.
@michaelnixon525
@michaelnixon525 5 лет назад
A young actor ......Mr Tracy , Mr Tracy you must try the new thing in acting - it's called The Method Tracy .............I don't think so. I'm too old, too tired ..........and too talented .
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 8 лет назад
Interesting that what the judge says could be applied to the SCOTUS and ROE VS WADE.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
And to the people who claim to be pro-life but consistently oppose programs that help poor women and their children.
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 8 лет назад
+saulpaulus Can you give an example of that? I can give plenty of the opposite. Christian organizations feeding the poor, the homeless, drug addicts. Christian woman's shelters taking in girls and women who, either keep their babies or put them up for adoption to loving families instead of killing them. Look at 50 years of government programs, it's replaced fathers, who just impregnate and leave, women who have baby after baby to get more money, the majority of people on subsidies, too many no longer have any will or reason to get off but complain nobody cares, it's never enough. You think abortion solves anything? It just makes us colder and less human, killing an innocent life because of a poor life choice, because it's a "burden."
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
There you are making excuses for cutting the programs that are in place to provide for poor women. Why do you think women get abortions? Because they will not be able to provide for them because of the holier than thou folks who cut those programs and condemn abortions, who make it too easy for the men who impregnate them to get guns to threaten those women and pressure them into getting abortions. And then, of course, folks fight to cut funding for contraceptives and foreign aid that promotes development and encourages smaller and more prosperous families. I help sustain a soup kitchen in my community. That is NOT a substitute for funding programs to help the least among us.
@brianboisguilbert6985
@brianboisguilbert6985 8 лет назад
saulpaulus You should be honored for sustaining a soup kitchen. I salute you. I volunteer along with my wife at a chain of Christian run second hand stores that employs former exotic dancers and prostitutes, battered women and single mothers. ( no federal money is taken) I'm also a Firefighter/Paramedic stationed in a low income part of town and my wife is an ER nurse so we have a pretty good idea of what you see. We just see how to help differently. Of course the government should help BUT there is a difference though between reducing or cutting off funds to those who have no drive, no incentive to better themselves, who just want to have it all handed to them, who think they DESERVE it, then helping those who TRULY need and deserve it and are TRYING. As I stated it's been going on for 50+ years yet the poor and uneducated are still with us despite BILLIONS of dollars being spent but now HIGHER numbers of families are on subsidies because it's generational, a way of life Planned Parenthood is a murder racket, founded by Margaret Sanger a bigot and supporter of eugenics who believed certain races and the poor should not reproduce. Consciously or not that's the view of liberal whites who support PPH though they mask it by seeming to be "caring" when it's just the bigotry of low expectations.. The largest PPH facility in the world is located in the 9th Ward of Houston where the neighborhoods are low income white, black and Hispanic. Think that is an accident?
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
Most of the programs that RW Congressional reps like to cut benefit the working poor. So-called welfare reform of the 1990s made it very hard for anyone not working to collect benefits. Cutting food, housing and medicaid benefits for the poor makes it more likely that he mother will terminate a pregnancy. PPH clinics tend to be in poorer neighborhoods because they provide womens healthcare that wealthier women get at the doctor's office. Much of their work is focused on improving womens health and preventing unwanted pregnancies.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 11 лет назад
OK, but I would include those who have supported slashing of social programs benefitting poor mothers and children in that group.
@WarrenFahyAuthor
@WarrenFahyAuthor 10 лет назад
No. No.
@jinnymudlark1815
@jinnymudlark1815 4 года назад
'The value of a single human being'. Every human is a single human being. Should the single, innocent human being be knowingly and deliberately sacrificed to save two other human beings (innocent, themselves, or otherwise)?
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 4 года назад
The point of the clip is that no one should be sacrificed. All humans have value.
@seanlally7384
@seanlally7384 2 года назад
Do medical experiments have an element of risk involved?
@williamclark7969
@williamclark7969 6 лет назад
Ah ain't touchin' this thread with a ten-foot . . . um . . . nevermind.
@TheJohnswa
@TheJohnswa 7 лет назад
I understand the viewpoint of the anti Roe Vs.Wade decision. But if you're pro-life then you're against war,executing criminals,torture or any other form of government imposed human rights violations. Also,I never want to hear you complain about welfare,social assistance ,free school lunches or anything along those lines. Remember you're pro-life! Not just pro- birth!
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 7 лет назад
Absolutely. Also important to remember that with abortion we are talking about the government simply allowing a woman to make a decision whereas the Nazis decided to murder others.
@theproplady
@theproplady 7 лет назад
...Allowing a woman to destroy an organism that is genetically distinctive from herself. Oh, and if you're a black fetus, you have a 30 percent chance of being killed in the womb before you're even born. In 2012, there were more black children being aborted in New York than were being born. This sounds like race-based Genocide to me - you know, the thing this entire movie is supposed to be against!
@mikeseigle5560
@mikeseigle5560 5 лет назад
Self defense is the only justification for killing.
@hiddenfromhistory100
@hiddenfromhistory100 3 года назад
I love it when the nation that nuked 200,000 people in Japan claimed to stand for "justice, truth and the value of a single human life". Wow.
@billboth4814
@billboth4814 3 года назад
He references "our decision", not the entire US. He notes that "the real complaining party at the bar is civilization". All nations have skeletons in their closets. For example, China lost between 15 & 20 million to Japanese aggression. As many or more Asians were dying of starvation every month thanks to Japanese confiscation of food supplies than the 1-200 K who tragically lost their lives from the atomic blasts. It should not be forgotten that Japan started the fighting in Asia by invading China and brutalizing its population. It continued it by attacking the US & its allies. It continued the war after its leaders admitted to themselves in the summer of 1944 in messages that were intercepted by US intelligence that they could not win. They continued the fighting after the terrible firebombings (that surrender in 1944 would have prevented as well as the A bombings) that actually killed more than the A bombings. They themselves were working on an atomic weapon and they surely knew what was meant when they were warned of “prompt and utter destruction.” .
@MrBodypro8
@MrBodypro8 12 лет назад
One thing though, how come Tracy never paid for his hot dog? He gets it and puts mustard on it and no money ever changes hands. That's the scene outdoors in the ruined city and a young German lady is smoking a cigarette and speaks German to Tracy and he asks the hot dog vendor to translate.
@barbarabaldwin7120
@barbarabaldwin7120 5 лет назад
That's what you got from this great film?
@barbarabaldwin7120
@barbarabaldwin7120 5 лет назад
It's DIETRICH, THE GREAT ACTRESS, PLAYING A NAZI WIDOW, DURING THE TRIAL OF NAZI 'JUDGES' WHO SENT MILLIONS TO THEIR DEATHS. DIETRICH IS A TRAGIC CHARACTER---- ONCE HER HUSBAND IS HUNG, SHE IS HOMELESS-AND HER NAZI VIEWS AND HIS, DESTROYED MILLIONS.
@BRuane-pw6xq
@BRuane-pw6xq 3 года назад
Trumpmerica no longer stands for these things .
@gsimon123
@gsimon123 8 лет назад
Abortion.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
+gsimon123 I am not a fan of abortion either although I have decided that I cannot substitute my judgement for the mother's. But, to be consistent, you have to also support measures that help mother and child AFTER the child is born. Most pro-lifers I know of do not.
@gsimon123
@gsimon123 8 лет назад
saulpaulus The point is still unchanged though that basically everything that this speech is about could apply to abortion as well. If a fetus is a human... I'm just speculating. Keep in mind, some might say we can't substitute our judgement for the judgement of the nazis in this movie or in the actual real world events that occurred. But clearly we did when it got way too out of hand. Makes me wonder with the advances in science making fetuses viable earlier and earlier if abortion will one day be looked at as just another barbaric thing humans used to do but moved past.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
+gsimon123 You aren't REALLY comparing the mother to the Nazis, are you? And you can only fairly apply this to abortion if you are ready to stand with the mother and help her in every possible way after she gives birth.
@gsimon123
@gsimon123 8 лет назад
saulpaulus Well I'm not in any position to provide anything to any women. However, if you think I'd let some kid starve or something absolutely not. Of course children should be taken care of after the fact. That point is sort of irrelevant though if you are arguing that they should be killed before even getting to that stage. There is a weird misconception that being pro-life and pro-baby are mutually exclusive. They aren't. You value human life at any stage. I mean if you find a pro-lifer who hates babies by all means criticize them but I have yet to find a single one in my entire life that says "ok fuck off" as soon as a baby is born. No one allows you to kill a human after it is born; I'm saying why is it ok to kill right before it is born? Why? Because it isn't a "person" is often the answer. I'm comparing the logic that allows both the nazis and abortion to happen. No two people are alike. Mothers and nazis are not the same people. However, the logic of allowing "personhood" or your personal opinion of how you much you value a human being so that you can exterminate it is almost identical between how the nazis viewed human life and the pro-choice movement. When you look at a human and say it isn't a "person" (and personhood is some arbitrary opinion) so you can kill it for virtually any reason you want... what degree of moral corruption should come as a surprise after that? Just like this video surmises the value of a single human is where it all falls apart. If you don't value a single human life you don't value ANY human life.
@saulpaulus
@saulpaulus 8 лет назад
+gsimon123 I personally would not want my wife to have an abortion. Comparing the pro=choice movement to the Nazis is not really a good comparison. You might also compare those who cut benefits for poor women and children to Nazis. Those policies promote abortion. The Nazi analogy is way overused. Only the Nazis were Nazis.
@charlyhoermann5446
@charlyhoermann5446 Год назад
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@charlyhoermann5446
@charlyhoermann5446 Год назад
fucking pst - funny bullshit trash present - any change??? - ok the numbers of deaths - and the way of killing / in-justment - fucking this failure of evolution - this fucking trash humen race - after all.
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