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We Tried Your Suggestions - The FR541 rim CAN NOT DIE 

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We asked for your suggestions on how to break the new DT Swiss FR541, and you answered. This time we've got this downhill/freeride rim mounted up (tireless) to a hardtail, and we're casing jumps, bombing staircases, and smashing curbs. We've also asked our resident clydesdale Sam to give it a good smashing (on a heavy ebike, no less), all in the name of seeing if we can finally break this mountain bike wheel.
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@higherbasemedia
@higherbasemedia Год назад
Put that wheel in the MTB hall of Fame. It's earned it.
@nathanshipman4900
@nathanshipman4900 8 месяцев назад
I have one of these.. on my ebike and with Cush core and 37 PSI I have the rim out of round. I wasn’t as impressed with the wheel. I have had to have it trued 5 times so far and I have the strongest spokes in it as well. I am 240 and ride downhill very fast. So with out a tire I am sure I could destroy the rim in no time as I already have with a DH casing and Cush core and 37 PSI!
@loganjacobson2335
@loganjacobson2335 7 месяцев назад
@@nathanshipman4900doesn’t necessarily mean the rim is at fault. Could very well be the wheel builder. And no offense but no products are built around your stature. Typically built for the average joe. Like 6 foot 180 pounds for the most part. No need to overbuild smtn for
@Dwaynefreeman
@Dwaynefreeman Год назад
I now aspire to be the rider who this wheel is made for.
@DailyMTBRider
@DailyMTBRider Год назад
Hands down, this is the most entertaining and amazing product video yet..... I'm now considering a FR 541 wheelset 😁
@jimi272
@jimi272 Год назад
If only they where available anywhere
@jmgmtb
@jmgmtb Год назад
The best marketing campaign I've ever seen for a bike product
@hxcdynasty
@hxcdynasty Год назад
as a MTBer on the bigger side, I truly thought that carbon would be the only rims i would even ride again. but these are truly impressive!
@fpsgenerator
@fpsgenerator Год назад
What carbon rims do you ride?
@conman1395
@conman1395 Год назад
If you're heavy, what you need is more spokes. The rim itself really isn't meant to give you strength.
@dit4963
@dit4963 Год назад
Why have you even thought that? Carbon is stiffer, but not stronger given the type of impacts a rim takes. That stiffness might give a false impression of strength. IMO carbon rims are the biggest marketing success in biking to sell riders extremely expensive stuff they don't need. Next are carbon cranks.
@conman1395
@conman1395 Год назад
@@dit4963 yield strength of carbon fiber is much higher. I don't know why you would think carbon isn't stronger. Carbon is also stronger on impacts too, as aluminum yields and bends/dents. Aluminum isn't stronger just because aluminum bends and carbon cracks
@dit4963
@dit4963 Год назад
@@conman1395 Carbon fiber is not stronger on sharp impacts (plenty of sources for this). And not even extremely sharp. Look at Bernard Kerr's crash at Hardline in slow motion, the rim exploded even before the suspension bottomed out. Such impacts are business as usual for alu rims at the Fest Series or Rampage. And a bent or dented alu rim still works perfectly fine as long as it still holds air. My rear rim keeps adding dents and works perfectly fine. That is strength, defined as: still being able to fulfill its function. Meanwhile carbon fails catastrophically.
@CornellHarris
@CornellHarris Год назад
Props to Logan and his ankles! 😬. You guys have sold me on these being my next wheel set.
@cassgil8448
@cassgil8448 Год назад
Agreed, great job you guys, glad no one got hurt in the making of this video. Now, can you please check if you can still get a tire on that monster!!
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop Год назад
@Dan P that would be fascinating to see! Also, how would you re-tension the spokes - what will be the readings on the tensometer for, say, 5mm total runout
@cassgil8448
@cassgil8448 Год назад
@Dan P, Ya I figured it was almost done, I just thought it would have been a great outro, fitting a tire on, filling it up and riding off. Still super impressive.
@jerridstory2531
@jerridstory2531 Месяц назад
Well, I am sold. I bought a set of WTB rims a year ago and have had three replacement rears already. I need this in my life.
@TheShift1313
@TheShift1313 Год назад
I cant wait for you all to have them in stock. After your last video i placed my first order with you all. Great content!
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Cheers! Thanks for watching! - Dan at Fanatik
@coinroyale
@coinroyale Год назад
Fanatik videos are just lighting it up. Very enjoyable. Thank you.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Thanks for the praise! Glad you're diggin em. - Dan and Logan and the rest.
@MTBDennis
@MTBDennis Год назад
Them FR rims from DT can't be killed. Been riding a set of FR 1950s and have done everything from square edge hits with low pressures to big cases. Never had to true 'em. My body will break before those things. 😂
@micheandmikey
@micheandmikey Год назад
This is hilarious! LOL Thanks for the laughs while I'm stuck here at work! That said, I have one buddy who I think COULD kill that wheel. I'm going to send this to Davis now. 😆
@Graeleaf
@Graeleaf Год назад
Incredible torture testing! Indestructable! Wow!
@betterthannotgoodmtb
@betterthannotgoodmtb Год назад
Brilliant video and wheel! Hardtails yay!
@armorhobbies
@armorhobbies Год назад
woooo! got my comment on the suggestion board! man it's the little things in life that I love the most.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Hahahah thanks for chiming in! - Dan at Fanatik
@PatHenry-kt5du
@PatHenry-kt5du 15 дней назад
I just ordered the 541 wheel with purple one up hubs for my enduro!
@gialtro
@gialtro Год назад
I've had a set of ex471's since 2019, they've survived quite a lot of cases and hard drops. They're a little beat up, but straight as an arrow, and hold pressure even without sealant no problem. Dt Swiss seems to be a guarantee.
@MTMXBL
@MTMXBL Год назад
Can you do a "scientific" test comparing FR541 resistance to pinch flats?? Using various different tire casings etc? Comparing to other DT rims (560, EX511, etc.). Thanks
@Ropetable
@Ropetable Год назад
would be cool to see the same video with the fr541 rim but laced with berd spokes. That would prevent spoke bending and spoke pull through and basically eliminate spoke and nipple related issues.
@DPCPhotos
@DPCPhotos Год назад
+1 @fanatik
@jonnybrown5715
@jonnybrown5715 9 месяцев назад
nice video, ordered a pair of these on hope Pro 5 hubs before seeing this video, looks like i made the right choice for my Turbo Levo :-)
@andrewsteavpack9079
@andrewsteavpack9079 Год назад
I’ve had a good wheel get more out of true on a decent set of Ibis aluminum rims which are pretty stiff. And they also were plenty true to still ride around no problem.
@aka_rancor
@aka_rancor Год назад
fun seeing all these bham places on youtube! loved the vid The gopro really doesn't show how steep some of the hills are on the ebike follow cam either haha
@tobiasflath8316
@tobiasflath8316 7 месяцев назад
Have it Brand New on my specialized demo. Will test and enjoy this year 💪😎
@DaveHyde
@DaveHyde Год назад
All time great vid
@sussexperformance185
@sussexperformance185 Год назад
Love my FR560 if i ever need ti I’ll upgrade to these.
@daveisom
@daveisom Год назад
Damn, DTSWISS for life!
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 Год назад
You guys must be so cool to work with!
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
I sure hope so! Thanks for watching! - Dan at Fanatik
@vheck56
@vheck56 Год назад
I wanted this wheel but it sold out quick then you made these videos so I'm thinking there never gonna be in stock 😂
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Back in stock ~February!
@melwalshmtb9121
@melwalshmtb9121 Год назад
It's going on my enduro bike on Saturday, just got a set built up with hope Pro 4s
@TommyShlong
@TommyShlong Год назад
Now you have to do a similar torture test on other wheels to see how long they'll last
@Stigvergnuegen
@Stigvergnuegen Год назад
That's a wheel win for DT Swiss!
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
😉
@xestrix420
@xestrix420 Год назад
this is legit the best advertisement for a product ever
@ToxicTechpriest
@ToxicTechpriest Год назад
Sounds like it became the Nokia 3310 of MTB parts lol
@Kev.in-Bike
@Kev.in-Bike Год назад
😮 amazing
@COOLBIKEyt
@COOLBIKEyt Год назад
Awesome :)
@MC39333
@MC39333 Год назад
Okay now I am convinced, one last wheel built and even better...I can get rid of these tire inserts. Even with the weight penalty of this rim, one Cushcore less saves me more than that
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Год назад
Cush Core saved rims from slamming rim into stairs but did not save my rim from 1m drop into steel plate wall. But not tried without in a long time, but the insert reuses the volume in the tyre, allowing lower pressure yet have support
@LittleJigaboo
@LittleJigaboo Год назад
if the wheel is still standing by the end of all this you need to try put a tire on it and see if it still works properly
@felipeesteve3258
@felipeesteve3258 Год назад
So basically if you put a DH casing tire and an insert on that rim it will never give up on you, or break, ever?
@gaspertolar7950
@gaspertolar7950 Год назад
i have managed to dent the old fr560 on my enduro bike. I was running tyre inserts + gravity casing tyres. idk how
@Bogdan_Ch
@Bogdan_Ch 3 месяца назад
⁠tell us how much do you weigh?
@PhysicalEngineering
@PhysicalEngineering Год назад
now thats what i need
@esmtb8
@esmtb8 Год назад
I love stair gaps but I hardly ever do them because I have these bontrager rims that dented after one gap with 32 psi
@Yhigma
@Yhigma Год назад
4:35 that's my favorite roundabout. I *always* do at least 1 extra lap. Bicycle or car.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Maybe I'll catch ya there sometime and we can do a couple loops. - Dan at Fanatik
@TeamCykelhold
@TeamCykelhold Год назад
As a dude who cracked a carbon rim just this weekend - ok I'm in.
@otsvantage
@otsvantage Год назад
Hey guys, do you mind if I ask what the song is at the outro because its amazing
@gaspertolar7950
@gaspertolar7950 Год назад
i have managed to dent the old fr560 on my enduro bike. I was running tyre inserts + gravity casing tyres. idk how
@cloud6074
@cloud6074 Год назад
The true mullet
@cloud6074
@cloud6074 Год назад
@Logan Nelson fr
@sp00n
@sp00n 11 месяцев назад
Now I would like the same treatment for a WTB HTZ i35 rim. Sure it's heavier (718g at 27.5"), but 5mm wider and WTB claims that "HTZ is the most bombproof rim you can buy for your e-bike".
@marianozarate7238
@marianozarate7238 Год назад
Now you can try the same with other wheels like Mavic, will be great to see that
@Alkhiman
@Alkhiman 11 месяцев назад
Probably too short
@eliaswiesenthal3419
@eliaswiesenthal3419 5 месяцев назад
Random question, but do you have a video on that bike to bike trailer that you used in the video?
@EMTBAFV
@EMTBAFV 2 месяца назад
Can you try this with Newman rims next please as seen these DT Swiss being put together on a machine in the German Cube factory last year! Yes I know their claimed to all be hand built but some know different! The ones that come on your new bike certainly are not! There being build along side the newman sl 30 wheel sets which I run and have never had an issue with there so stong!
@therealnorthernchungus3551
@therealnorthernchungus3551 Год назад
I should really getting into mountain biking. I live like 5 minutes away from Highland Park, NH.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Do it! It's the best!
@mattiasvanoverbeke1831
@mattiasvanoverbeke1831 Год назад
Yep, im buying those😂
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Unfortunately gotta wait till February :/ - Dan at Fanatik
@roilev
@roilev Год назад
- What is the best rear tyre combo for DHF? - FR541
@Vetefanasså
@Vetefanasså Год назад
Dhr 2 or disector
@danytheunicorn95
@danytheunicorn95 Год назад
I like the DHF on the back too, rolls fast and slides nicely into corners. If you want absolut grip then go for an assegai and a DHR is in between. Wtb schwalbe continental michelin all make great tires. Depends on what casing and trail conditions
@roilev
@roilev Год назад
What rolls faster than DHR2? FR541 and no DHR2 :)
@spicymountainbike
@spicymountainbike Год назад
You don’t need a rear tire for this rim. Just run it raw 😂
@MINIMALmtb
@MINIMALmtb 11 месяцев назад
Cement masons hate him for this one simple trick!
@Wiroe
@Wiroe Год назад
This has gone through some serious material engineering
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
It blew us away with how well it held up. Ridiculous. Thanks for watching! - Dan at Fanatik
@taol8258
@taol8258 Год назад
Do what the GMBN boys did to the spank 359 wheels. Bunny hop rear rim onto a square edge with a 240lb rider.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Год назад
And steel plate wall from 1 m drop. That can flatspot some rims.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-61BAyA3ozmo.html I'd say this is a pretty close approximation to that. 1m to concrete, and jump to a sharp, steel edge. I suspect doing it on a hardtail brings the total force subjected to the rims close to (or above, although I'm not going to do the math) what a 240lb rider would do on a full suspension bike. - Dan at Fanatik
@ericschairer9438
@ericschairer9438 Год назад
Off topic , but where did you get the bike trailer? or did you make it?
@niwrad84
@niwrad84 Год назад
Sick wheels Carbon would've died on this one. Time to put it on a wall of fame.
@MartinTeerly
@MartinTeerly Год назад
Can you do same test with spank wheel ?
@Poollux_
@Poollux_ Год назад
what is the name of the music 13.20 !? otherwise great video ! ❤️
@little_rider_maroshi323
@little_rider_maroshi323 10 месяцев назад
can you compare this rim with chromag BA30?
@havenoutdoors584
@havenoutdoors584 Год назад
Looks like a solid choice for my Turbo Levo? What is a hub you would recommend pairing this wheel with for an ebike @fanatik ?
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Honestly the regular DT Swiss 350 would probably be bombproof. The lower engagement one. www.fanatikbike.com/products/dt-swiss-350-mtb-12x148mm-32h-rear-hub Unfortunately we're out of these rims until February, but you can play around with building the wheelset here: www.fanatikbike.com/products/wheel-builder - Dan at Fanatik
@kompocik7220
@kompocik7220 Год назад
i just wanna know more about this bike trailer!
@garrettgriffin9613
@garrettgriffin9613 Год назад
Pretty sure Brage Vestavik rides these rims, now we know why
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
I sure hope he does, the stuff he's doing! Friggin animal!! Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Год назад
He rides the FR 1950 wheel set, I can't find out if it's the same rim or different
@vipervidsgamingplus5723
@vipervidsgamingplus5723 Год назад
That would be fun to drift.
@fluenggi
@fluenggi Год назад
swiss poweeeeer
@nathanshipman4900
@nathanshipman4900 8 месяцев назад
I have one of these.. on my ebike and with Cush core and 37 PSI I have the rim out of round. I wasn’t as impressed with the wheel. I have had to have it trued 5 times so far and I have the strongest spokes in it as well. I am 240 and ride downhill very fast. So with out a tire I am sure I could destroy the rim in no time as I already have with a DH casing and Cush core and 37 PSI!
@fredericmalo5152
@fredericmalo5152 3 месяца назад
Try it with no tyre on a steep rock garden please, not in streets hahah curious
@ngarmy6602
@ngarmy6602 Год назад
That is amazing, imagine have tier on you could never break
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
That's our thought! Kinda ridiculous. - Dan at Fanatik
@ngarmy6602
@ngarmy6602 Год назад
@@FanatikBikeCo is that best rim ever ? And how much it cost?
@mleavitt787
@mleavitt787 Год назад
To bad it's not in 26". These in 26" would (theoretically) be only 70 grams heavier than the rims I'm running on my street trials bike, and the ones I have right now are stiff, but they are soft and easy to dent. Wish I could get a set of these! I mean, DT Swiss builds custom 24" Street trials rims for Canyon, so why not just offer an existing rim in 26"? You'd get street riders, (dirt jumpers, too) and people with old 26" bikes buying your rims.
@eldelabicidecolores
@eldelabicidecolores Год назад
Yeah, I'm planning on building a custom NS Decade Dirt Jump bike next year, and these rims would be absolutely perfect for that purpose. Not insanely heavy, while keeping it's stiffness and resistance. It would be my first choice. Sadly it's not coming in 26"
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Check these. It's the rim Aaron Gwinn got that winning run on just the bare rim. www.fanatikbike.com/products/dt-swiss-ex-471-26
@MrScart35
@MrScart35 Год назад
you pretty much cold forged the flanges lol
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 Год назад
DT Swiss should pay you for this video . They couldnt do a better ad for their product .
@dawnpoint
@dawnpoint Год назад
Good gravy, it’s the Toyota Hilux of rims!
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Hahahah, it is indeed! - Dan at Fanatik
@CommonConnoisseurs
@CommonConnoisseurs Год назад
That wheel better be mounted in the shop
@LoganNelson
@LoganNelson 8 месяцев назад
I think the DT Swiss folks have it now :)
@lifebehindbars8504
@lifebehindbars8504 Год назад
I wanna do loops!
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Finally! Thank you! - Dan at Fanatik
@M2.Cycling
@M2.Cycling Год назад
i have destroyed many wheels. I'm sure I can kill it, would it fit on a gravel bike ?
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
It would have to be a gravel bike that accepted very wide tires. - Dan P.
@Jackthegreg
@Jackthegreg Год назад
Gutted there’s no 26 option I need these rims I’ve managed to kill a ex471 and 2 fr560 rims lol
@peteys_mtb
@peteys_mtb Год назад
do this with different spec rims as a comparison lol
@maxjbryan
@maxjbryan Год назад
red bull hardline on just the rim
@MinnesotaMTB_
@MinnesotaMTB_ Год назад
Take My MONEY NOW!
@believe8263
@believe8263 Год назад
If DT Swiss made planes there would be no plane crashes, only rough landings.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Hahahaha, get em on it! Thanks for watching! - Dan at Fanatik
@jubalvw3302
@jubalvw3302 Год назад
10:03 highlight
@XavieRibeiro25
@XavieRibeiro25 Год назад
Send it to Bernard Kerr 🤣
@MTBDennis
@MTBDennis Год назад
Thoughts of his Reynolds wheel grenading after that jump. Oof!
@Ben.N
@Ben.N Год назад
How much does it cost
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
www.fanatikbike.com/products/dt-swiss-fr-541-29-rim
@wonderwatch2239
@wonderwatch2239 Год назад
Soooo Logan is a rim tester, and part time filmer for Jeff kendelweed ?
@tobiass6092
@tobiass6092 Год назад
funworks trackmack also a killer (and cheap)
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Год назад
This looks very promising. But I am curious how it would do landing on a steel plate wall. I flatspotted a Hope Enduro 29 rim that way even with Cush Core, but I knew it would not be a miracle protection. Probably had top little pressure or tape gave out or had a puncture. But I increased the pressures to avoid it happening in the future. But I think the new Dt Swiss Fr 541 will be my next rims. I tried the brass nipples from Dt but they seem to round off and wear faster than Sapim those on the Hope wheels were great had them for years minimal wear. But DT Swiss did round off a bit after some truing. One did even during first install but was at the part inside the rim. But I know there are different types of brass. But so far Sapim nipples ar emy fav. The Dt spokes seem to do good still, but nipples could be better I guess. But so far only had them for few months. But the alloy nipples were usless, corroded and cracked. So went to brass. So my dream wheel would be Sapim nipples and spokes, Fr541 rims, now I know they are very robust, not sure on hubs yet. Currently habe 350 hubs with 54t ratchet. But want even higher engagement. Concidering Onyx, I9, Project 331.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-61BAyA3ozmo.html Boom! Steep plate wall. No tire. Hardtail. Ask and you shall receive! - Dan at Fanatik
@aljalilhamor3814
@aljalilhamor3814 Год назад
watch Dany Mac and Sam pilgrim rim test and try there test to see how strong that rim is 🙂
@baccarah7010
@baccarah7010 Год назад
This video got me thinking the rim is made out of captain americas shield metal
@adammoffett6935
@adammoffett6935 Год назад
I killed it in 2 weeks jump to flat and huge dent with 40 psi in my tires
@Zphyrus_
@Zphyrus_ Год назад
Halo vs fr541??
@haydenwem5202
@haydenwem5202 Год назад
i have managed to snap it on my 6th ride on it with a cushcore. I still recon carbon is alot better
@li04am
@li04am Год назад
only rim I've ever had break is a dt Swiss rim lmao
@alecfotsch3533
@alecfotsch3533 11 месяцев назад
Logan must have a RU-vid channel! How do I find that?
@LoganNelson
@LoganNelson 8 месяцев назад
I haven't formally given the RU-vid thing a try. Considering it now though...
@alecfotsch3533
@alecfotsch3533 8 месяцев назад
@@LoganNelson if it is interesting to you and makes you happy I bet a lot of people would enjoy it. I'd for sure give you a subscribe!
@joeyh7892
@joeyh7892 11 месяцев назад
I have flat spotted and dented my fr541 in two spots after only 3 days of bike park at 26psi with cushcore. It’s un usable at this point and don’t understand how I managed to destroy it while you guys have done nothing to it with no tire or cushcore.
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo 11 месяцев назад
I don't get it. We've seen a few where that happened. It really doesn't make sense. - Dan P.
@574film
@574film Год назад
you should get up some speed and then skid sidways in to a curb to attempt to destroy it
@retiszabolcs4323
@retiszabolcs4323 Год назад
Where can i buy that rim? 😲😄
@FanatikBikeCo
@FanatikBikeCo Год назад
Once we have them in stock (February), right here: www.fanatikbike.com/products/dt-swiss-fr-541-29-rim
@steptorn
@steptorn Год назад
Next rim target locked on
@Asecrethe6969
@Asecrethe6969 Год назад
If you skid with that I bet you get sparks 😂
@Chops00
@Chops00 Год назад
Send it to Sam Pilgrim next
@tobiasstock8432
@tobiasstock8432 Год назад
k ill buy one stop
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