We've Created A World No One Wants To Maintain | Dr. Temple Grandin 

I would say the business either tries to be cheapskate so they can save extra money or taking government kickbacks for having a shortage on workers (there was some talk about it I heard floating around RU-vid, but I don't know how much of it that is true).

There is something going on with it. Same thing here. Everywhere is “now hiring”. But not really.

They want desperate workers who don’t know their value. Try applying to a job at a company you wouldn’t dream of being qualified to work at, and thank me later

Wow, this has been my experience exactly. Good luck with your search.

Ur 2/ova qualified.interviewer prob was intimidated not the company.

This is something that doesn't get talked about enough

Plus if you did get one to take you on the pay was small verses the work.

Machinist of 5 years here, our shop has same problem. Can't find people to hire, the ones they do hire aren't mechanically inclined. Half our shop including my mentor are retiring in next 5 years, and it takes years to learn some of the ins and outs of these machines, especially when production always come first.

@@supersmegma9801 Production has came first for 30-40 years from what I can tell. The employers don’t care about making sure that there is a sustainable work force. The only thing they care about is increasing their profit. I hate sounding like a cynic but that’s the truth of it.

One thing that tech companies are great at is creating new ways to cultivate talent. There are ways to improve a situation like that, but it takes an investment into building processes that aren't typically aligned with machine shops. Think six sigma, and what it takes to tool up for it. Another thought would be to start an apprenticeship program. You could also look for older "new machinists" that are transitioning out of other careers. Alternatively, you could go heavy into automation with the ever increasing complexity and usefulness of robotic CNC machines and processes where one person can manage many runs at multiple stations. Lot's of fertile ground for creative thinking!

Yes, as a retired high school teacher I totally agree with you

I can't even fix a leaky tap. I am confused as to how your brother could become an electrician without opening a book. I can't see how he could just figure things out by himself. Do you mean he was trained by someone or some people by showing him and speaking to him? If he didn't have help surely he would have electrocuted himself? Electricity doesn't have moving parts that you can look at and then figure out. I did 2 years of a degree and can barely wire up a plug.

Free thinking people rub public education the wrong way!!!!

@@richardswaby6339 Some people like me are no good at books and exams but when the machine is in front of us, I can fix it. I had a team leader once he was really good technically in books and theory but when he went out to fix stuff, he was useless.

@@richardswaby6339’m a tradesman and am competent in HVAC, plumbing, and electrical. I even work on my own cars. If I hear someone taught themselves everything and didn’t even bother reading a book about the basic concepts of these trades, I don’t want them working around me. If you don’t bother reading books, you don’t bother with reading wiring diagrams and sequence of operations manuals. These are the people that are dangerous to work with and tend to overinflate their skills and competency. I also see this completely self made mentality as a slap in the face to the people that helped you along the way. I won’t downplay the people who helped me out along the way to get me proficient in my trades.

Im 26 years old from Germany but what you say is what I am experiencing on a near daily basis for years now

🇨🇭 same over here - degrees where ever you look, but no idea what it means to work with your hands... Greetings from Switzerland.

I deeply apologize but I became a university lecturer with only a BA degree. My colleagues had PhD degrees. One or two everyone wondered how the “H “they ever got a PhD degree. It wasn’t that they were bad people, just stupid. I was never good with my hands at physical labor. But show me phonology or phonetics and I instantly understand and can elaborate like Mozart did on the piano. Hence dickering right now with Cambridge University Press over a book on English pronunciation I wrote seven years ago and left on a hard drive. I have never printed it out. We all have different talents. I see mine as a kind of cross between music and mathematics but not really like either. I was very bad at shop class. The funny thing is I know a woman who is a mathematician who is a great furniture maker, has her own power tools and workshop. For her it’s a hobby.

Read E.M. Forester’s “ The Machine Stops” 1909. Early SciFi. He also wrote “ A Room with a View” among other movies in the 19th and early 20th Centuries.

If it wasn’t for all the regulations the licensing, EPA, OSHA, etc etc…most people would be more inclined to be self sufficient but you have to jump through all these hoops and if someone finds out then you get fined by the city county etc..not to mention the planned obsolescence, and anti-right to repair culture we live in it’s no surprise more people don’t subscribe your lifestyle

most of that is illigal in denmark to do yourself. i am not even allowed to put up a lamp.

The more self sufficient you are the harder you are to control

From where i am from,its called yesterday

What Raspberry PI projects do you do? I want to be as self reliant as possible 😊

Amazing. A house. A violin. Shelter and music. Fond memories.

Thank you for sharing this heartfelt whimsical spiral 🧬🪜🧬 of a tale 🎻 🤎🎻 music is a salve.

Many highly skilled musicians work the same way. Right hemispherical thought or highly intuitive processes that don't need to be explained to be effective and highly productive.

We need to value these great minds (for that is what they are in their own way), and stop valuing the uselessness of smooth talkers (like bureaucrats and politicians).

Did you not have respect for them before

@@jamesfield6431 that was your take-away from my comment? I consider myself as “in the trades” - I’m an RN that went to a vo-tech school. My father was a welder in the military. And we homeschool our boys, hoping they will consider a trade. My comment was regarding the broad cultural “we”.

@@katiejon17 wasn’t talking to you

She is just amazing and more alive than most teenagers !

And pretty low on agreeableness. 😉

@@MrLuigiFercotti Because she's too smart to agree on the BS most people accept at face value. The world needs more people like Dr. Grandin.

@@angusorvid8840 And you, too. lol

Nail on the head. I was in Middle/High school in '85-'92, and I had a lot of friends who focused on shop, or just went to the VoTech school altogether. We used to make fun, but a few years later, they were laughing. Once I had my own kids in school, I kept asking teachers and admin where did these opportunities go?! Makes me wonder where unions (skilled labor ones, obviously) are finding their apprentices.

@@jasmadams As Jacqueline suggested, I'd expect liability to be a HUGE factor here. Most counties aren't financially equipped to handle the insurance costs for accidents caused by working this kind of machinery. At least when I was in school those hands-on classes seemed to have shifted over to architecture/CAD, graphics design, and programming. These days robotics has been added to that lineup for some school systems.

@@quin2203 our school district is “self-insured “ which basically means it isn’t insured at all and injuries would be expensive

@@jackiekjono I was a shop teacher for forty years, and no one in my classes ever lost a body part.

As CEO's outsourced to China & beyond for cheap labour, at home the public was being sold that the Trades were a dying industry & therefore investment in the trades was pushed as a bad investment. Our economic system is very much to blame as CEO's are incentivized by law to look for the cheapest production cost with little regulation (regulation that was created after years of fatality). The missing piece to this puzzle is human evolution. The industrialization of the late 19th & 20th century came at a MASSIVE cost to human life. Ie. Factory workers being locked in to work by factory owners & then burning to death in fire. Or a farmer having his body pulled into a grain combine/ harvester. Laws were then enacted to protect trade workers & regulation was a legal way to make this happen.

Yes I know exactly what you're talking about! From the start of my high school through my HS graduation, I watched the technology classes dwindle. The year after I graduated they got rid of the welding/metal shop to put in a computer center (circa 1993). It was also a sad time for the sales people who followed in my grandfather's footsteps. My grandpa sold machinery (Rockwell/Delta/South bend/Time Saver...) to schools and industry in the mid west (mostly Minnesota). By the time he retired his replacements couldn't sell anything because all the schools got rid of their tech classes to welcome in the computer age. Computers are fine and CNCs can do some great stuff, but seriously, a true machinist (e.g. RU-vidr "This Old Tony" is worth his weight in gold.

Rather terrifying!

The person paying for the project (gov) wants it to be cheap(where you think those fancy suits an dinners come from?) and our roads are a great example of that. So low bidders win, and now begins the process of squeezing out as much profit as possible from the project. NOT the attitude that what is being built is to serve society and should be of the highest integrity. Unfortunately this compounds like an upside down pyramid regarding the money/profit. And before you go saying ANYTHING about us guys doing the ACTUAL WORK. REALIZE its the political crap that dictates how refined and to what quality of work we are allowed to meet. How are we doing to build nice stuff with the crap tools they provide, or the low quality materials, or the underpaid labor that bangs everything up and doesn't give a dam because thats how they are treated??? Not to mention these subpar architects these days and their absolute inability to design anything aesthetically pleasing anymore and these builds are not fun... seriously designs these days are so bad that as a carpenter, half my work is doing the architects/engineers jobs out in the field, aka "make it work" or "figure it out". Thats mostly on a microscale but think of a tv and the picture on it, takes millions of pixels, these big jobs where you got all these little corners cut, ends up adding up to like what the guy said, could be catastrophic. Because the entire job is profit driven the true purpose of it is completely ignored. We have the materials, We have the skilled tradesmen, We have the money, We have everything we need to accomplish amazing feats(technology)! Unfortunately greed has poisoned mens souls and society is paying the price. Its in our face everywhere with everything at this point. Its a matter of having people speak up... but no one does out of fear. "i'll lose my job"...

I am glad that my granduncle advised me to cross-train my educational background. I took up physics specializing in astro-physics while "CROSS TRAINED" in mechanical engineering specializing in MACHINE TOOL TECHNOLOGIES and that means getting our hands dirty and oiled up! We first learn how to use a basic manual engine lathe and use it to make an duplicate engine lathe directly and indirectly and multi-indirectly (several stages of machining) and use it to make a metal planer which in turn is used to make a much more precise engine lathe which in turn is used to make a much more precise metal planer and so forth and so on. Then we were instructed to make a much larger and much more precise engine lathe and metal planer and we did it all in "STAGES" and that also includes in making the micro-meter, calipers, rulers, angle measuring rulers, templates, indexing plates, disc plates, slide rules, vise, lathe chuck, and other work holding components, jigs, fixtures, modular - expandable jigs and fixtures, movable work tables, bolt lockers, tool holders, dies, tool bits, the list is very long and too long. Not only did we make the movable work table but we also make the movable machining equipment on top of it or side of it. We learn also how to make bearings and all of it's components and revolving metal seals using cross hatch machining techniques to make an airtight and water tight and oil tight and gas tight and pressure tight and vacuum tight revolving and sliding metal seals. NO HIGH TECH STUFF ALLOWED! It is because of these educational courses, which were still being maintained as the strict curriculum in Russia, that all scientists and engineers, a good proportion of them, can turn their mathematical calculations and blue prints into a workable machined tooled prototypes. And valuable hands on experiences in dealing with the unpredictable conditions and situations and circumstances and wisdoms and tricks and tips and techniques were all written down and recorded and microfilmed and recopied many times over for distribution. This is the advantage we have over these so-called high-tech CNC ROBOTIZED MACHINE TOOLS because they cannot handle or record or observe in real time valuable events and be able to comprehend and interpret them in REAL TIME AND IN TIME so that it can also be recorded and recopied and passed on to the others. And then from the basic and simple manual engine (1) lathes and (2) metal planers we went in making the (3) drill press, the (4) shaper, the (5) milling machine, (6) the bending machine, the (7) broachers, (8) hydraulic presses, (9) steam pressure gravity drop forgers, (10) steam forgers and (11) pneumatic forgers. Then we went to specialized and customized machine tools used in making screws, bolts, nuts, washers, and rivets which are the glue that held them all together, plus the braces and reinforcers to hold the multi-component based-machine tool platforms. Then we start making steam engines of all kinds. Electric motors of all kinds. Diesel engines of all kinds. Gasoline engines of all kinds. We were taught to learn how to use the machine tools to make the specialized machine tools and customized machine tools needed to make the final manufacturing machines in making the basic electrical metal components and basic electrical non-metal ceramic and plastic components (we started with bakelite plastic) and in making the machines used in making copper wires and the rubber insulating machines and the machines used in making the copper making machines and rubber insulating machines. And in turn in making the machines used in making synthetic rubbers and in used in mining-processing-smelting-refining copper ores into copper wires, and so forth and so on. These went on for more than 8 years alongside with my physics (specializing in astro-physics) and in mechanical engineering (specializing in machine tool technology). And then all of our teachers that all manufactured goods came from factories that in turn were built by machine building factories that in turn were built by heavy engineering factories that in turn were built by machine tool engineering factories which in turn were built by the same machine tool building factories themselves. For machine tools are the only machines that can reproduce themselves and manufacture themselves. On the 9th year we were tested again and again and again until all of our teachers KNEW AND ARE ONLY SATISFIED that their students has become better than the teachers themselves. Then on the 10th year were we allowed to graduate. AND I CAN VOUCH FOR ALL OF MY CLASSMATES THAT WE ARE ALL TIRED AND GLAD THAT WE ALL MADE IT TO THE TOP! ALL OF US. That was 28 years ago. Russia at that time was in turmoil but on the way of being stabilized by a small clique of core KGB-GRU responsible for our upbringing and care and now we are working for that small clique of Putin's circle as teachers of the next generation of students under our wings. This is what we call ourselves as the "BAND OF BROTHERS" which we adapted from a television series of yours.

@@darthvader5300 are you from Russia? your english seems quite good

It’s too bad JP will never receive this. Try sending an email, he reads those.

The real shame is that many such people will never become academics.

More like fifty.

She is one of the most well known scientists in the world…

@@Max-bi8fn well known for sticking her foot in her mouth?? She literally attempted to argue that schools aren't predominantly ran by women. Parents not raising children and schools raising them is a large part of societies issues today. Women are more likely to attempt to teach a child their way of thinking vs a man. Scientists should actually be able to question statements and make rational assessments

👍 dutiful vassals ... hard serving serfs .... good ol yard filler ... mulch .. . it's great, "to be more practical" = " be useful" Sounds better than " Get used, and take it with a smile. ........................................ "Do it Or else face punishment," Sounds better than "Face unwarranted vengeance/hostility/ oppression or violence" " or being put to disadvantage by over entitled peers whose belief of the vaule in their labor becomes threatened By your inactivity"...... ................. They will one day realize that all the money they had worked for Was only used to cheat them out of their time .. and thus had given away their entire fortune . Without even realizing it Business is all about the " Up sell." Because if not, there is no money to be made .... ..I can have ideas all day ... If people buy them, it's because people are dumb.or Indoctrinated.. anybody buying an item ... is actually selling their time..... And anybody who's selling an item Is stealing time ... and giving away their Expedient... ......... If I trade fair .. That means if I invest 1... I get 1 back. that means I'm not any wealthier than when i had started...PERIOD!!! Your joy is all you're paying for... And suffering can teach us how to find joy ... but there is no joy with Suffering that which entails no thought... They profess money.....choking on money....mouthfuls.... And that's if I even live long enough to see a return..... nobody is guaranteed tomorrow ....... now is all we get ... .................................... And "People are Growing up away from practical"... Sounds better for a premise than "People that aren't indoctrinated"

Yes very refreshing she is a class act with the voice of an angel. So encouraging and inclusive. I wish she was my mother

@@zachary7914 lol 😆

@@zachary7914 you obviously don't understand logical fallacies

This is the type you need to lead......

Same brother. I work in residential/commercial service plumbing. I'm trying to learn all i can before the older guys retire. So many people are just installers of parts. They dont know how to troubleshoot plumbing problems. They want to replace everything. Some of what i see is atrocious. I dont pretend to he the best, but there is a lot of sloppy and just dangerous work going on.

I am becoming an electrician and the union has all these tests and procedures. Aftet that thay put you on a waiting list. But that makes less sense because there is a shortage of labor and a surplus of demand. I would rather have 1 year of lower wage work and earning my aprentestship then wate for the higher paid work. So now I am scrambling for various work on my own just to move up the list faster. It goes like this, application, 2 aptitude tests, 3 interviews, put on a waiting list, get an approved construction job inorder to improve your list ranking, retake the interviews, move up the list, wate, receive the union contract, re- interview, your in. That being said you get 2 pensions, higher wages (even after union dues), union training (in addition to your on job training and aprentestship), contractor pays your insurance (you dont need to pay for insurance), additional optional training after completing your first training, educational partnerships with colleges that allow you to wave all general education programs and gain a degree (or 2 if you want), if you cant get a job after 1 year they can transfer you to another state for work.

@@johnjay370 this kind of crap is going on in every field that requires a license which also contributes to under the table work.

@@victorhopper6774 or working for smaller contract companies like I am doing.

@@johnjay370 well its obvious that if everything done was at prevailing wage not much would get done and a lot more people would be homeless.

Two very gifted, but different people. Yeah, I just loved the banter. Two very large, but different brains. But what is the title of her new book ?

Common ground of material competencies so fertile here. Love them both so much for this work! I took auto mechanics as a girl in high school in the 70s. I was later dxed autistic. Spent childhood deep in the woods, with horses and cows and goats, worked on dairy farms in college, ...I finally got advanced Algebra concepts from studying DC circuits. My analytical ability took off from the digital electronics course I took. HANDS ON is my style. Real world applications. Material competencies, yep.

@@ROTALOT I taught shop for forty years. I learned that there are eight billion persons in the world and that they all have different gifts. Gifts. Not disabilities needing interventions. Schools need to find the gifts and fan the flames of giftedness. You know immediately when a school system has nothing to offer when they rely heavily on one size fits all standardized testing.

A card?

@@Rawdiswar card is american slang for a type of comedian. I wouldn't use that term on Grandin. She wants to dominate the conversation at every step. Annoying

@@susampson278 never heard that term before, thanks.

@@susampson278 Maybe, but she's not wrong.

@@0utdoorsman You can be right on the merits of your argument, but you can fail that argument by virtue of being the vessel conveying it and how you go about that. Some people commented they could tell she 'had to stand up for herself a lot' (in life). That's not an excuse to interrupt somebody half-way through their point. Like some sort of verbal incontinence. You can still respond and make your point if you literally wait for like 5 more seconds. Instead, her behaviour plays into all the negative stereotypes about women, i.e. Karen etc. It's like a feminist's perception of what male behaviour is typically like and their adoption of it, i.e. loud, obnoxious, domineering, interrupting. This is almost an example of what JP talks about when he says - don't be harmless, become a monster, and then learn to control it. She is not in control here.

That quite about soft men is true and all but when you consider how much the west vilifies masculinity it makes the problem even worse. In the UK they can't even recruit enough men into the military, they are erasing masculinity and eventually we will reach the end of our civilization.

Love your comment…

And it’s getting worse. Generation Z can’t even change a tire.

I think millennials are the first generation where the technology has become too advanced and changes too quickly for DIY to be an option. The only choice now is to throw things out when they stop working and buy new things built by wage slaves in third world countries.

It’s getting weird. I noticed something the other day. Both my parents were raised on a farm & growing up I never saw either one of them sit in front of a tv. They worked from sun up to sun down around the house. Never saw them being lazy. Insane work ethic that was 100% normal back in the day. It’s why I cringe now when I see a man sit in fro t of a tv watching sports or tv shows. Which makes me so odd in this world, but my parents were so mature. I don’t even recognize adults today.

@@kimberlybanks9969 reminds me of seeing the tv room in the army being packed with 19 year olds on saturday mornings watching cartoons. being a farm boy my cartoon life ended about 5 years old.

Born in 1946 and raised 18 years on an old fashioned dairy farm. All labor, little mechanization. At 18, I worked an entire year, 7 days a week on getting up at 3:30 in the morning to milk the cows. Never even thought of that as being abnormal work life until I went to the city to get 'educated'. I got educated in how totally slack most city people think... like sick leave, 3 days a month. Really? In over 60 years of work, I missed 5 days of work, because I got malaria in Africa on a job there.

I hear people complain about $100 oil changes for cars and i can't understand why someone would pay that much. 90 percent of the oil change is gravity. I find that people are buying electric cars for reasons like that, and they can't change a flat tire either.

There is also the problem of manufacturers making their stuff impossible to repair (even illegal to repair) by design. see also Louis Rossman. Now there would be a good guy to interview.

@@jackiekjono Yes, these new cars are a nightmare.

I get the impression you will not be a good parent.

@@WiseOwl_1408 Yeah, teaching children to have values is just sooooo last century. *eyeroll*

I'm on the older side as well, but when I entered high school in 1976, that was the year they moved shop classes to the new vo-tech school up the road. You went half a day, but if you did, you couldn't take the "college prep" versions of the academic classes. The schedules just wouldn't work out.

@@jkbrown5496 Channelizing the youth. As if a grounding in mechanics is no good for some destined for a university, and a knowledge of university subjects, doesn't benefit a mechanic.

The ideal when I was growing up was to be both literate and competent in physical skills, regardless of livelihood.

@@sanniepstein4835 That was gone by the late ‘70s. Not wrongly at that time as the trades were overflowing with all the 20-somethings dumped out of the factories when they closed. And now those men of the ‘70s are in their 70s and there are few in the pipeline as “to be successful in life you must go to college” has been the chant.

You got that from the movie "October Sky," didn't you? I remember a scene in that movie where that exchange almost happens exactly that way. Not complaining, just seemed funny to me.

Oh so right Jack. The This Old House tradesmen have been saying this for years. My Dad was concerned,too. He was a Tool and Die engineer and designer. Very sought after by the big Three for help with design and dies. I know carpenters who are very concerned. It's a huge concern.

But the pay and working conditions is terrible in comparison to getting a diploma and sitting behind a computer and coding for $80-$100K in comfort.

@@aorg9793 Can't argue that. I get through most nasty work days thinking, " Well look at the bright side, at least nobody is shooting at us ". I foresee the capable trades people being the most valued in the not to distant future. I always get a kick out this front line workers are heroes narrative. The trades are the line.

Too many that are in control of the coin believe it is management that build things. Management knows different but they are not talking.

Sadly we lost the Mind and Hand effort to make schools that train both expression by writing and speaking and by creation by hand. The effort was to teach by doing and use that to give the theory relevance. They are reinventing this as if it was never thought of before, but MIT was founded on the principle then muddied their mission with more theory than hands on. "In the light of this analysis Carlyle's rhapsody on tools becomes a prosaic fact, and his conclusion-that man without tools is nothing, with tools all-points the way to the discovery of the philosopher's stone in education. For if man without tools is nothing, to be unable to use tools is to be destitute of power; and if with tools he is all, to be able to use tools is to be all-powerful. And this power in the concrete, the power to do some useful thing for man-this is the last analysis of educational truth." -Charles H. Ham, Mind and Hand: manual training, the chief factor in education (1900) (1886)

@@john0270 you can’t build bridges without math

​@@john0270 Dude, math is heavily involved in building bridges... I learned how to build bridge models in shop class... How do you not know this? You must be generation Z...🤣

@@GadsdenHomie1776 you could also completly miss what John was talking about... And insert your "Math is important" BS

I’d like to point out, that many of the old bridges and structures in Europe were built at a time when less than a dozen or so mathematicians existed and could do basic long division. Many of the bridges and aqueducts were constructed in Ancient Rome before simple algebra was a thing. My point isn’t to debate the importance of mathematics and science in structural mechanics, but to however point out that trial and error and experience can take you a very very long ways. As a Society we tend to over emphasize calculation, over experience and I’m concerned we’ll pay dearly in the coming years.

Oh fuck like honestly if they aren't super sharp scissors then like I always feel like I struggle to cut what I need to cut sometimes if it is super flimsy

Maybe I'm fucking useless oh well you got me haha

Yeah it's getting sad out there I worked with a guy 32 years old he was stuck because he didn't know how to pump gas. His parents always did it for him.

they dont care there is going to be no jobs anymore so why have any skill? thats the plan.

@@dojocho1894 Who is they? And how would that benefit any one?

This really is it. The US has more single moms than any other place in the world. Kids are crappy because parenting is hard - even with two. A single mom simply can't instill the discipline and respect a boy needs in order to be productive.

Was that in the 90s? I feel like my high school had a hell of a lot of that shit too. But welding a chair to the wall is pretty hysterical, actually!

@@Captain_MonsterFart At least they learned welding. Actually, its nothing so ominous. Just look at where the jobs are. Learning carpentry is going to give you a pretty precarious existence. I know, I'm a carpenter.

Oh Lord...kids always do crazy stuff... In welding class we had this Mexican kid thats family was cartel and he brought in this giant bag of meth because I jokingly said I could sell....anyway him and I were the worst welders. But later on he got his welding cert and worked as a welder until dying in a car accident.

The trades we're looked down on then. That has come to an end. Shop class will now have a different view.

Bingo. That is why I don't believe in "Project Managers" and any other high-power-distance hierarchies. Hire the doers and they will understand how to manage their own projects. Hire deferential meeting-goers and all you will get is chaos clouded by blown smoke, and meetings about how to micromanage something that isn't working.

Watch the pilot episode of The IT Crowd.

@@jmfs3497 "Project Managers" are what you get when Academics study the Construction industry and completely misunderstand what "General Contractors" do.

@@thatotherguy8138 And they are in every industry. I started in Radio and 40 years later I work in VR and 3D and I still get Project Managers who want to micromanage something they have zero experience in. It's like their entire job is to squeeze themselves between me and the clients and smile and laugh and say yes to everything, and even the clients ask if we can meet in secret without the PMs, because the PMs can't even ask the right questions. Makes zero sense. The most life affirming thing I saw this year was the dump truck driver who laid my gravel driveway and only got out of his truck to shake my hand and take payment. I missed being around someone that couldn't fake being good their job.

What an excellent way to describe it, EIB :) I also agree with those who have said unqualified project managers are a blight all over most industries. The good ones are those that know enough to know when an employee knows their job and stay the heck out of their way.

is that a polite way of saying that she's kinda kookie?? ;)

@@jaybefaulky4902 Wow... My first thought was Chris Chan really pulled his life together.

@@jaybefaulky4902 you don't make it anywhere near the top being average

@@markymark4756 It does look very similar to Chris Chan.

@@markymark4756 who is chris chan?

Intelligence is liquid. I suppose mine sloshed to some strange adjustment focused side of my brain.

They ran those hands in the early 90s.Im the steering wheel holding brain child that replaced them in the name of SAFETY(Newsflash:the safety numbers hardly moved). It was all💰grab & they've f'd over supply system w/their game playing

Agree. It should be done in person, let alone with temple grandin

I think way more of his conversations should be in person. They are the anomaly. I think we would all benefit if it was the custom

That's like learning to play chess. If you had to learn and memorize all the chess rules beforehand you'd probably struggle unless you had a very high functioning IQ in that area. If you start playing chess while simultaneously learning the chess rules it'll be a more satisfying experience and ultimately you'll be better for it. I just repeated what you said but using way more words. What do I win?

I substitute taught computer classes for a coworker with an Art degree. I studied computer science in college and worked in the field. The students apparently liked my teaching better than his, because several went to the Dean. She caught up with me one day to ask f I had a degree, in ANYTHING, to work there. But since I didn't, and they were an accredited school, they couldn't hire me. But the guy with the art degree who just sat there reading a book during class was fine.

@@recoveringsoul755 smh

The university requirement every place has is total bull. I've got 10 years experience in the world of work and can tell you that the stupidest people I've had to deal with have usually got degrees, and some of the smartest and most competent people didn't. A degree is meaningless. The system is more like a club, a club of the indebted that simply doesn't like people who didn't get suckered for 50k plus interest just to enter the world of work. It's just a way of outsourcing intelligence testing to a third party, but that third party (the universities) will pretty much give anyone their stamp of approval just because of the money.

College these days just make people more stupid, anyway.

@@Hashterix I studied a year of music at a certain decadent Australian conservatory(where some faculty+student got away with serious academic misconduct) in 2017 and I ended up switching to an non-music degree and getting music tuition privately(from field leaders abroad via online). Although it was difficult to maintain 2 careers simultaneously, I got far more international opportunities in my music career than I ever did in that conservatory, and I learnt far more stuff as well- all that was missing was a degree certificate and a huge amount of uni fees for that career. Unless you're in something STEM or law, there are other ways to build yourself career at a far lower cost!

Just a by-product of the giant college loan scam that has financially devastated thousands.

No kidding. After a friend of mine finished his bachelor of mechanical engineering, the first job he got was for civil engineering. The degree and the job didn't have much in common. What was even more ridiculous is that a co-worker of his, with the same job mind you, had a bachelor's degree in theology. He then told me that it didn't matter what your degree was in. To get hired, all that mattered was that you have a bachelors or better.

🤣 it's funny cause ur delivery. 😢Its sad cause it's true

My wife is an Occupational therapist. Today it requires a master's degree. The pay is $50,000 at best. No one is going to spend the amount of money required to get the degrees for that pay level. You don't need a degree to teach kids to weld. You do need to be a journeyman. Hell I learned in our farm shop just out of necessity.

@@williamoarlock8634 She’s a lot more human than you will ever be.

@@derrickj925 Or you for that matter.

@@williamoarlock8634 good thing you delete that last comment. I’m glad what I said took out that nasty comment that you made. Cheers

She doesn't just sit on her ass and complain about the patriarchy.

@@randallgoldapp9510 Grandin benefits from corporatocracy.

Is it possible at my age (58) to learn some kind of trade skill like carpentry?

@@elzoog it's never too late. First, take care of your health to he sure and live a long life. Imagine that 58 is not old if your life expectancy is a robust 100+ therefore the potential for a 40 yr long career.

@@elzoog Never too large, but do not underestimate the effort and time that will be required. Remember that mastery of anything requires thousands of hours of practice. Consider taking aptitude tests to see where you are strong before embarking on your journey. Also, find some skilled tradesmen in your area and talk to them. I am sure many would be glad to help you and may even be an entry ramp to apprentice into new career. Finally, in my experience, those who excel at any endeavor are they who have genuine passion for the field and are driven to create superior results (good enough is never good enough) -- find your passion and fan the embers of your drive into flame.

@@elzoog Of course. As she mentioned there are community colleges in Colorado with such programs. We have a tech college here that teaches trades. A two year program includes hands on experience helping with Habitat for Humanity projects. Contractors hire them into apprentice programs. At your age you should consider the physicality of the occupation and your own ability. Most folks ended up learning to code because we were already trained in technology. Kind of stupid and ignorant to tell people who just lost their second job coding before Y2K to learn to code. Still several were able to finish a degree and one person, Karen, started a cake business that is well known and has several location in the Metro.

@@OldBillOverHill "Kind of stupid and ignorant to tell people who just lost their second job coding before Y2K to learn to code." That's what happened to me. I was doing C++ programming (with a bit of Visual Basic) back in the 1990s but got laid off in 2001. Because I was having a hard time getting another programming job, I decided to go to South Korea in 2003 to teach English. Been living in Asia ever since (currently in Shangrao China). I have a bachelor's degree in mathematics, for whatever that's worth. Mainly worried about what I can do if I go back to the US.

"I was not really welcome by the men who had dominated the industry in my area but I had a bit of a pit bull personality" Do you see a cause and effect between these 2 things?

Polanyi and Hayek on tacit knowledge.

Computer models are a stupid way to predict anything, anyway, even just speaking academically. All they do is generate a set of coefficients for a gigantic, impenetrable equation based on a bunch of input data. Anyone who understands how science is actually supposed to work can see how that would go wrong. And in fact, the problems with doing it are extremely well known by the people who develop all the mathematical frameworks; they have names like "over fitting." There are all sorts of techniques for trying to eliminate the fact that the equation is based only on a small sample of test data. But there's obviously nothing you can do if you're actually missing important variables or if the input data isn't even reliable to begin with (e.g., climate). The people who work in the field either can't or are unwilling to draw the correct conclusion from that: the methodology is bogus from the get go, probably because admitting that would mean having to find a new career.

@@BladeOfLight16 agreed. People who live in an academic bubble are rarely capable of accommodating real world complexity. Especially when you're high IQ and regularly rewarded for your accomplishments. Try explaining to someone like that that the little program they designed fails to account for millions of variables.

No, just rude

And how is that good?

@@sillymesilly I think she's on the autism spectrum (obviously high functioning) which can result in being "rude" sometimes.

@@sillymesilly she is autistic and they are clearly having delay difficulty on their call

@@sillymesilly lol, you don't know much about Temple Grandin, obviously :) She's autistic. Social cues aren't everyone's strong suit.

I know guys who went from practicing trades to teaching them. They were happy to make the change even if the pay was not so hot. The hours were steady, the work way easier, vacations and benefits much better. A guy who is getting older and wants to take it easy would take the job even if it paid less. Such very experienced men can make excellent teachers. Not all, but some have the verbal skills and knack of working with newbies. The hitch is they have to go back to school and earn a teaching qualification. There should be some way to streamline this requirement and make it as easy as possible for those teachers who already have the life experience.

@@mrdanforth3744 Yet another time when I have to explain statistics to someone. The exception is not the rule. What you're saying is irrelevant.

@@tedlogan4867 What do statistics have to do with it? I was explaining that there are other factors involved than the rate of pay. I suspect based on my experience, that they could find experienced tradesmen willing to teach if it wasn't too difficult to qualify as a teacher. If they require a university degree that is obviously going to reduce the talent pool to almost zero.

@@mrdanforth3744 The people you're describing are statistically irrelevant in any conversation about this specific topic. Statistics have everything to do with accurately understanding broad issues. Pointing out the "I know a guy" reality, while not trivial, is pointing out the exception. It is not relevant, not useful in any way. There are always exceptions, but those exceptions are so rare as to be a non-factor.

@@tedlogan4867 Wow, this is a comment section. If you do not care for what he said, then just skip it. And, I will disagree, statistics are not everything in a conversation. Mr Danforth 374 made a very good point about why it may be hard to find teachers for shop type classes.

Part of the problem with devs is that during the education, a lot of the things you try get shot down. In my experience most educators in IT (as well as Physics, Math aso.) tend to be weak socially Students try to be creative and solve something, but they got shot down for deviating from the optimal solution. Instead of nudging them towards the optimal solution, these "educators" make these kids feel incompetent. People who are great at IT and great at teaching are extremely rare.

@@dansuniverse9642 I noticed in software development that you might have to employ an unoptimal solution if you want to get it done in a timely manner.

Check out what Bonhoeffer said about stupid people.

I’m certainly of the opinion there are different types of thinkers. People that use information and their brain in different ways. I’ve experienced this in people around me in my life. I think not recognizing these differences and teaching them to people can waste a lot of resources for them personally and within the community. People need to be able to recognize early on what types of skills they possess and how that relates to mapping out their future, both in social and professional directions. In the US we do a horrible job at this with the ‘common core’ setup. The education system itself needs to be dismantled and rethought to better serve the people.

@@camerakid76 The voucher system idea has been around a long time but it disempowers the powerful and so is unacceptable.

A friend (woman) called a service to come out and change the light bulb in her refrigerator. The service man showed her how simple it was to do and then gave her the bill for $75. She was a bit meek thereafter!

When I was young, everyone in middle school took Industrial Arts (metal shop, wood shop, and handcraft) and Home Economics (cooking, budgeting, and sewing). Most useful classes I ever had.

Funny enough, as a man the same thing happened to me. Was brought up in academic school but my talents was more technical. Following my desire to build things, I got tools and pretty much taught myself. Really wished I went to Tech instead.

I was trying to figure out what Peterson’s tie was trucked into. His pants or some kind of vest?

Can't help but notice how colorful these two are.

@@craigb3154 No lie it might be a cumberbund haha

@@timothycreamer8610 She dresses like my great grandma did. 'Merica.

You're right, I think if they both opened fashion companies they'd have extremely successful side business as they have some serious style going on!

So true. 😢It makes me sad.

IBM started that in the 60s

What is an A/P?

@@richardswaby6339 - airframe and power plant. Aircraft mechanic.

oof i guess you have too leave out some of your qualifications if you want to work for those people

I just went to the a welding class to have them make me something.

A monstrously deformed tool of the meat market...