We Wanted To Show Another Tool To Test Parasitic Draws Then This Happened!

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This was supposed to be a simple video showing how you can use thermal imagers to find draws, but we had no idea it would become so much fun! You'll see the benefits of the imagers very quickly, but you'll also get plenty of other tools along the way and see something that the Professor has yet to see as far as a diagnosis goes. You can see the joy in his face as he gets the answers on this one! We hope it helps. Enjoy!
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@advancedleveldiagnostics 3 месяца назад

Wow, that's a great case study. You're really lucky you had the wipers on! On the Pico, you can just type zero in the box, and the cursor will move to zero.

@jnorton772 3 месяца назад

It is really refreshing to see someone whom is 1 training others 2 as fastidious and humble enough to ask someone who knows more than me , most are wanting the quick fix and on to the next instead of doing the job right first time hence they replace multiple parts which works and costs but they don't learn and then they teach others to do same , WELL DONE SIR

@johnrpizzaguy 3 месяца назад

Great video Sherwood, I’m a 40 year master mechanic who found out very early to really focus on auto electrical diag and repair although I’m a bumper to bumper technician, I love electronics and it’s allowed me to earn a good living and stay clean ( I know I don’t like greasy stuff including my hands) again thanks for the video.

@alexanasta7578 3 месяца назад

When the wipers moved, your expression was telling everything 😂

@dogdooley4495 3 месяца назад

I have the Topdon. It's really all you need for quick, easy, temp imaging. Sure, there are better cameras, but for a DIY guy, I'm happy with it. I use it around the house for AC and heat vents as well.

@harrylumsdon6773 3 месяца назад

I do as well. Excellent stuff from topdon

@rayp.454 2 месяца назад

Great real-time diagnosis Sherwood, you are exciting to watch and learn from. Your cameraman (son) is outstanding as well. Thanks!

@samheumann5640 3 месяца назад

Interesting diagnosis......thank goodness you accidently turned the wiper on and you got to observe the issue. Nice job, thanks for sharing.

@generationxdad 3 месяца назад

To add to my previous comment, moving forward I will defiitely now always put an easily-visible accessory like the wipers into the ON position after the key has been pulled so that if something like this does happen during a draw test, it is easy to see. Thank again for this guys!!! Such an awesome video!!!🙌🙌🙌

@speedy_pit_stop 7 дней назад

Learned a little bit about one of my own cars here today. I'd open that switch up to look inside and see how they manage to make ignition switches that fail so early. I have 45-50 years old cars that most likely still have their original switches.

@kismofer1 3 месяца назад

This guy is very good to diagnose...that's why I subscribe great work 👍🏼

@Amarillobymorning777 3 месяца назад

Yes , it does . When u was hitting on it was changing status . 30:54 GR8 vídeo clip Señor.

@thomasriske1594 3 месяца назад

Great video! Wipers being accidentally turned helped out for sure. Sometimes things just work in our favor

@spiculum1836 13 дней назад

Nice troubleshooting. Even if the wipers were not on, you would have figured it was the ignition switch because you would have done the load and no load voltage test on that accessory wire. As a computer Engineer who troubleshoots computer hardware and software problems for a living, I know the feeling when you find the faulty component. Something that was not obvious from the start but smart, logical troubleshooting technique lead to finding the faulty part. Nice work. 🙂

@luigirubino1487 3 месяца назад

Excellent diagnosis, sir! Very-well executed plan.

@paulbrown3180 3 месяца назад

This was a master class diagnosis indeed !!!!

@jnorton772 3 месяца назад

Oh also love the creative use of new tech and your honest evaluation and inclusion of price , If your ever in west Australia my honor to shout you a beer or ? .

@kevinbosse8866 3 месяца назад

For the pico, for your voltage cursor you didnt need to have both cursors since on the left side the cursor marker was indicating you the voltage you set your cursor to! For the amp clamp it was simply a "zero drift" since you had it on for quite some time, normal on must scope clamps. Nice diag! Thank god you bumped those wipers 😅

@gskjr01 3 месяца назад

Very well done Sherwood Perfect time because I just purchased a thermal camera to teach parasitic load diagnosis. Received it yesterday but haven’t had time to experiment. Thanks

@Michael-yi4mc 11 дней назад

4:00. Shop dog. Cute 🐶

@generationxdad 3 месяца назад

This was one of the coolest parasitic draw videos I have watched to date for the tools and methods you used to chase it down and find it👍. What I love about watching case study videos like this is my learning process from them. I try to put myself into the situation and think during it what I would do at each step of the way it if was me with the problem vehicle in my bay. There were definitely a few times during this video I realized I would have got a snag and had to stop and rethink my path or do more digging, and it is in those snagged moments of the video where I am humbled and learn new diagnostic methods. Thank you gent 🙌👍. I also have to say that when you made the "I'm on a struggle bus with this ting" comment, I died laughing. I have not heard that term in quite a while, but I am now going to use it any chance I can whenever I find myself struggling 🤣😁.

@PaulOneel 3 месяца назад

You guys mentioned Joe Auto Electric, I'm guessing it's the new York guy with long hair? If that's right, how is he doing? Hasn't posted in 3years. I really enjoyed his content.

@jdesaavedra0432 12 дней назад

I once chased an intermittent battery drain on a 1991 Camry that had been hooked up to jumpers backwards. One night I was sitting by the fireplace and saw the lights come on the Camry outdoors. After a while the lights went out. I changed out the headlamp relay and it was fixed.

@keltecshooter Месяц назад

If you play with the Topdon you can overlay the normal image with the thermal image for clarity. And buy icon wrenches with the money you save .....

@Arthur-sz7uf 3 месяца назад

Great find..! That was a good one..! Good job, and thankfully it was the ignition switch instead of the relay control side from the gem module.

@psubond Месяц назад

If i were a betting man id say there was some tiny shaving of metal from putting the key in or some other wear and tear. Maybe pocket junk. That probably made contact enough to turn on a fet that controls the relay or sends logic signal to computer. When you put the load on it it burned up the short. That is an old trick with nixie tubes when they short (turn up current till short melts). The contamination on nixie tube burns WAY before you hurt the elements of tube. Very nice troubleshooting, really enjoyed it. When you said "this is a good one" i smiled cause i totally understand that feeling

@KissTamas3 Месяц назад

The best diagnostic tool was... the wiper switch. :)

@rodvan-zeller6360 3 месяца назад

At 4:31 I think you need line of sight, removing the fuse box cover is necessary.

@drewscarcare4998 2 месяца назад

Thank you Sherwood!

@davidmiller1938 2 месяца назад

Intelligence, persistence and luck combined to get a good result. How many customers get that fortunate?

@swampyfox8688 3 месяца назад

If only us shadetree guys had access to all those wiring diagrams. Another great video Sherwood 2 & 3. Really appreciate you!!

@djosbun 3 месяца назад

You do have access. All manufacturers offer short term service subscriptions for a small fee.

@davidsawyer1599 3 месяца назад

Eric O. has a video explaining his cost per manufacturer as well as the aftermarket companies that offer diagrams and schematics. As stated above. There are short term usage fees available. One can download a specific vehicle for later availability. I believe Eric O stated he pays roughly 1500.00 to 3000.00 for access on a yearly basis. That's per OEM and aftermarket.

@lyfandeth 3 месяца назад

Many liraries also have subscriptions to those services. Ask the reference librarian. You can look for the problem, then print out the pages you need.

@josevaldes846 25 дней назад

ALL DATA DIY has a subscription for 59.99 a year, per vehicle. When you purchase the 3- year plan they give you a discount, I believe there is a discount code available for further savings. I find it useful for diagrams and it also contains TSB’s that is constantly updated.

@julesviolin 12 дней назад

⚠️Many ignition switches disable AUX power at the cranking position. It's to divert all power to help start the engine, so that bit can be normal on some vehicles

@floydwilliams3321 3 месяца назад

Very cool video nice work man

@alanw5879 3 месяца назад

type in 0 (zero) in the ruler section and it will bring the ruler right to the zero mark.

@roywhite7833 3 месяца назад

Eric O from the South Main Auto channel uses the Pico machine frequently.

@billseay6399 Месяц назад

Hey thanks and wow great job

@DavidChewning-mr4jp 3 месяца назад

Video recommendation: a video on battery memory savers, if you use them, and why or why not. I see a lot being sold and then see shops not recommending them.

@matttretheway5107 3 месяца назад

Easy way to set ruler on Pico to zero is to click the ruler number in the floating box and just input the desired measurement. So in this instance you would click the box under 1 and type 0.

@SouthMainAuto 3 месяца назад

Was just gonna come write this 👍🏼

@antaris8111 3 месяца назад

@@SouthMainAuto Great minds and all that haha... I also watch pretty much all of your videos too Eric. It was in fact your videos that inspired me to buy a Pico 4425a (also many other tools)! I have learnt so much from watching you and your approach to diagnosis. Guys like you, Paul Danner, and Ivan from Pine Hollow are masters of your craft! Keep up the great work!

@JessClearyAutoRepairLLC 3 месяца назад

I hate when a problem goes away during a diagnosis. It would've been nice to have an opportunity to pull fuse 3 out of the "smart junction box" to isolate the switch and rule out something on the circuit backfeeding voltage to the switch (the windshild wiper motor also has a hot at all times feed). It seems strange that the small load from the test light pulled the voltage down, but the previous time, it carried enough current to supply the wiper motor. Nice video, I really like my topdon imager, it's saved me a ton of time.

@daveerrington5166 21 день назад

Great diag

@viviantapp3870 3 месяца назад

Excellent work ! Cheers!

@jtjones4727 3 месяца назад

This was awesome. Like you, when those wipers came on out of the blue, I thought what the heck is happening, we have a real life haunted Ford.

@hunterpinnell6254 2 месяца назад

Man O man I could have used this video when chasing an open circuit on my Porsche 997 twin turbo. Something was staying hot and it would kill my brand new battery after 3 days of sitting in the garage. Sold the car never knowing what it was. Yes I disclosed the issue to the buyer and he wasn't concerns being a "car guy" but it sure was a hassle for me

@rwrobs777 20 дней назад

Waiting for Pico to make the TA189 with the BNC+….they said it’s coming !!

@MarzNet256 3 месяца назад

Excellent. I'm thinking the draw being stuck at 500mA was due to modules being awake from active accessory position circuit. I think around 50mA is reasonable with new switch and modules being able to go to sleep and stay asleep. I'm just a DIY dude (just ordered an obd2 breakout box, a pico 2204a and some hantek leads for some hands on learning on a 2006 Matrix).

@mrcogginsgarage7062 3 месяца назад

Great trip through the logic process there. Will you also be replacing the control relaythat has been overworked?..

@garysgarage3669 3 месяца назад

Another amazing video. I have a dumb question. I have several Autel scanners and I have always needed the key on accessory to establish communication. How were you able to see ignition status with the key off?

@stefanp8137 3 месяца назад

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

@anthonysova7117 3 месяца назад

Good diagnosis Second time where I never got a notification (any way) Glad you pointed out the difference between test light and DVOM always appreciate your knowledge CHEERS SHERWOOD

@jtjones4727 3 месяца назад

You can actually combine both a test light and voltmeter test leads together, so you can apply an electrical load and at the same time measure actual voltage. This can be very handy for some testing.

@paulsolovyovsky1702 3 месяца назад

Great job figuring things out. You can always try to ping Ivan from Pine Hollow Diagnostics, he's knows his stuff and helps mechanics..even the techs at the dealer. It's a learned trait and he's a master with the 4 channel pico

@hectorvelez8907 26 дней назад

Sherwood is the best. Has a style similar to Chris fix but more detailed and easy clear explanations.

@overload3996 3 месяца назад

for zeroing , go to the rulers box above , and below #1 right click and type a 0. It will place your cursor at the zero line.

@saiautorepairs 3 месяца назад

Good video thanks for all the diAg tips

@floydwilliams3321 3 месяца назад

That’s a good video

@josephcipriano2382 Месяц назад

boy i should be so lucky looking for a problem on 1993 940. i need something to jump out at me like that!

@jamesnabower6751 3 месяца назад

Is the gear shift fully in park sometimes that affects the ignition switch

@bywayz 3 месяца назад

You are amazing! 👏👏👏

@enzop.3227 3 месяца назад

The ignition switch comes with the housing so it would have fixed it

@darkwake3k 3 месяца назад

How are you reading data stream from the GEM with the ignition switch off?

@Jpilgrim30 3 месяца назад

Amp clamps drift over time. I always rezero any amp clamp after it has had some time to warm up.

@MotorWorksWest 3 месяца назад

We use that clamp with our escope

@AllenNix-iz6ev Месяц назад

And you can find cylinder's that are not firing as well .

@wingfoottech 3 месяца назад

I have the Klein tools TIC works on my android phone

@jdesaavedra0432 12 дней назад

I will bet there is a lot of metallic wear particles in grease that conducts a small current from time to time. Time for a new switch.

@rtarjwells 3 месяца назад

Break open the switch, look at the contacts. Just curious.

@sheerwillsurvival2064 3 месяца назад

Excellent 👊🏻👊🏻

@GlenBeattie 3 месяца назад

How much did the draw go up just from plugging in the scanner?

@MarkVanTasell Месяц назад

WOOD MAKE A VID WITH A POWER PROBE AND A MULTI METER(THINGS ONE CAN AFFORD)

@martinarrieta248 3 месяца назад

Grasias

@Michael-yi4mc 11 дней назад

All cars are the easy ones when you throw the parts cannon.

@taipan8021 3 месяца назад

It seems that you found a Christine

@ericwilkes238 8 дней назад

For those of us with adhd what happen to keep it simple

@damiangrouse4564 3 месяца назад

You asked for an “easy one”…god said “nope”but here’s a hint…just look at the wipers.

@tylerwilliams3868 3 месяца назад

please get back to us about the pico scope fault. dealership wants us to use the pico for draw tests but its so iffy!

@Jpilgrim30 3 месяца назад

It’s not iffy at all. All amp clamps drift over time. You should always re-zero an amp clamp after it’s been on for a little while to account for that drift.

@charlesmecum5009 21 день назад

Can you help me get to appex I can pay, but can't go cuz I'm self employed but not long story but gd one sherwood

@ccgrider1014 2 месяца назад

I have experienced the same look of what just happened...so I laughed out loud...sorry. Its great when you win tho...

@ncooty 21 день назад

Pet peeve: Price, not price point. There are prices and price ranges. "Price point" sounds like salesy pseudo-jargon. There, I feel better.

@MikeCoats-y3k 12 дней назад

been in the business for most of my life hard to watch a mechanic with girly braded hair and a micky mouse watch band really ??

@c.h.r.i.s2253 16 дней назад

I don't know what just happened...... It's a Ford that's what happened

@spelunkerd 3 месяца назад

Fascinating story. When the switch was turned off, a weak thread of high resistance connection to power was still coming through the switch, but downstream that voltage had nowhere to go. So on the meter you read 12V. The test light resistance is much lower than the corroded bad connection within the ignition switch, so voltage is drained off by the test light between the two, with tiny current still moving. Downstream electronics noted that drop in line voltage and put the module to sleep. It becomes a simple Faraday's law example of two resistors in series. Effectively all of the voltage drop was eaten up by the upstream high resistance bad connection within the switch, but when the test light is removed the voltage will trickle back and the problem recurs. It's pretty cool the way you proved that with the test light.

@SouthMainAuto 3 месяца назад

Great video Sherwood👍🏼 Cool "accident" bumping the wiper switch on. Good piece of the puzzle for sure!

@psubond Месяц назад

I spent 17 years as an Aviation Electricians Mate on Hornets and Super Hornets. I dont say this about many people but you would have made an EXCELLENT AE. bonus points for mentioning the engineering (the reason for and the bane of a technician's existence). 🍻

@Bozemanjustin 14 дней назад

25:43 watching this guy who is an absolute professional struggle makes me terrified that I'm going to take my car into a local shop and they're going to charge me $3,000 and go. We don't know what's wrong with it

@mattnsac 12 дней назад

FYI, Accessory by definition should turn off while cranking. If it stays on purposely while cranking, that would be on ignition. Thats not to say that ACC should be on with the key out, but your thought about cranking and it turning off was misguided.

@robertgreen4050 3 месяца назад

That was a great diagnosis excellent job one thing I can say for the average diyers without a wiring diagram you are screwed and information on these systems and how they operate or you will fall into that rabbit hole

@mikeo610 3 месяца назад

Hey Sherwood amazing video! Very informative, I appreciate the different ways to tackle them battery draws! My question is when performing a diag like this how to you charge the costomer? Do you start with 1 hour first or do you get the 2 hours up front? Just wondering something like this could some time. BTW I enjoyed meeting you at STX this year!

@Kelvinbellrose 13 дней назад

My Blackview phone has built in FLIR

@jdesaavedra0432 12 дней назад

Expectation bias sinks ships, crashes airplanes, and sells a lot of unnecessary parts.

@jameymccray7275 3 месяца назад

What is that box you have connected to the obdii? My autel just has a wireless adapter. Does it give you more access?

@veritasaequitas9838 2 дня назад

Or the relay is welded closed, but why?

@1957cajun 18 дней назад

I really wish you would have taken that ignition switch apart so we could see what went wrong in it!

@JOHNPHUFNAGEL 3 месяца назад

For the pico just pull your bar close to zero and just type a voltage into the display volts and the curser line will snap to whatever voltage you type in

@mandytuning 3 месяца назад

amp clamps have to be zeroing its offset all the time cause it starts accumulating residual magnetism on the clamp . some crap like that.

@johngillen-d3p 11 дней назад

this guy loves the sound of his own voice how many times do you need to repeat your self

@johnweiland9389 3 месяца назад

I wouldnt have figured this out. Your over my head. But I might have fired parts cannon and changed both the ignition switch and the housing. But the old switch would have tested good.

@gregrobsn 3 месяца назад

Sometimes it's just easier to check out the obvious first. You have a relay that's powered by the auxiliary circuit and you know the ignition switch is in the off position then the auxiliary power should be off. The door switchs showed off so I would look at the ignition switch first. It’s a heavily used switch and they fail regularly. The troubleshooting methodology of tracking every possable fault is fine after you check the obvious. I'm a retired maintenance electrician with over 45 years of experience and after spending 35 years at a major brewing company I have seen people try to troubleshoot a simple problem by digging through hundreds of pages of programming, changing out input and output cards on the programmable logic controler and crawling under valve manifolds trying to track down a valve that was not indicating open on the main control board. When I was sent to help, the first thing I did was to pull the indicator cover and check the lamp bulb (Before LED lamps). Hours wasted over a burned out lamp. 39:46