We Were RIGHT ALL YEAR? - Dude Soup Podcast #49 

To be fair, I honestly think that funhaus (especially what they do on the know) is the closest thing I've got to actual games journalism. Professionalism and research included while still remembering that these are video games and don't have to be taken that seriously

You guys may or may not have been right all year (w/ HL3 I couldn't agree more), but one thing's for certain, everyone in the FH community has been really appreciative of the dedication that you all have put into entertaining us with really fun and engaging content all year long. I think that you guys leaving IG and joining the RT family was one of the greatest things to happen to RU-vid without a shadow of a doubt; gracing us with Gabor, scrobbles and Baby-Hunter to leave a concerning grin plastered on my face throughout all of your videos. Thank you Funhaus for contributing to this really great year.

This was one of the best Dude Soups so far. Gameplay was entertaining and conversations were enjoyable, especially the final one about addiction.

Did you say INSIDE GAMING circles?

They are the dads I never had.

I think the addiction thing boils down to this: If these companies are trying to exploit people with addictive personalities, then people should know about that, and in the case of videogames people might not know about that.

This was the most educational and intriguing bowl of dude soup I've seen. I love that everyone could give their opinion and explain why and then have a civil conversation about differing opinions

59:00 and on. Very real. I think these are amazing, almost no-effort, ideas that could be easily implemented and would help a lot of people.

Kovic's kinda contradicting himself...On an interview with Greg miller he said he doesn't play Fo4 cause its has a quicksave option and hes not a child.... Now he says he plays it because of the quicksave and jokingly that he's a "old man"

I think James hits the nail on the head with every argument he brings up, and Adams taking his arguments either to an extreme level to make everything sound ridiculous or he's making specific arguments that don't relate to anyone else BUT him. Super interesting and entertaining to watch as always though

Probably one of my favorite bowls of dude soup so far. The last discussion about addiction was really interesting and i so wish they could've talked a bit more about it.

I don't think $7000 will fix literally quitting life for Fallout.

This dude soup was fucking awesome. The gameplay was actually really fun/funny to watch, and the conversations were really engaging and I loved it. The dude soup ep's that make me think are personally my favourite. Good job!

i have depression and video games make me happy. if i could ill sleep eat game repeat. but there is all ways someone to get in the way.

I'm so glad that James and Lawrence were calling Adam out on his bullshit

Did Adam just call all of the fans losers with no friends?

57:50 I'm happy James hit the nail on the head with his thoughts on mental health. I have major depressive disorder and 99% of people don't think that's not a real problem.

Feels a bit weird that I have been listening to this while playing Skyrim for 8 hours straight at almost 4 am. I should sleep.

It's not the government's job to protect me from myself.

just checked the Boonty Wikipedia page. Didn't know Funhaus acquired Boonty in May 2015

The argument at the end was basically Socialism (State has responsibility to the individual) vs Libertarianism (State should not restrict the market).

Who else thinks Lawrence is the coolest in the group. But James is by far the funniest.

That guy suing over Fallout 4 is as stupid as the guy who sued McDonalds for making him fat. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for yourself. Saying you got addicted to it is just a cop-out for you not taking responsibility.

This has to be one of the best Dude Soups. The constant back and forth debating is podcast entertainment at its best.

One thing that annoys me about Funhaus is that they act as if game devs can do no wrong. Even when devs do fuck up, Funhaus sweeps it under the rug and acts like it's no big deal. An example of this is with Battlefront 3. Everyone knew the game was gonna be shit, but Funhaus acted as if it was no big deal and that the game was fine. Lo and behold the game is panned and they probably stopped playing it already. While being over critical towards development teams is harmful to gaming, so is acting as if everything is fine and nothing should change.

It's amazing how entertaining and informative they can be in every video. It's truly impressive!

Stop having such thin skin. Jeez reporters will face criticism.

It's 4AM, I have work in like 5 hours, and I'm just watching, then you say I might be addicted to this... then I think NAAHHH and just fucking keep watching. Love you guys. LOVE MEEEE!

I'd say Stalin or Mao was worse than Hitler

Anything that triggers a reward response in the brain can become addicting, literally anything. Some people get that from self harm, others from drinking themselves to death and others from video games. Computer/internet addiction is a thing, why not video games? I am not saying that if someone's life gets ruined because they were playing the game, they should be given a compensation from the publisher, but it is a growing problem. And with games becoming more and more realistic, it's not that far-fetched to assume it will start occurring more often. Anyone remembers the South Park episode on World of Warcraft? People like that do exist, sitting in front of the computer, getting morbidly obese to a point moving away from the computer hurts them both physically and mentally.

In the 6th sense, Bruce Willis was dead all along.

These guys know the business well and even if they are mostly known for their comedy, they have been working in this business for years.

I love Funhaus so fucking much

I feel like I learned SO MUCH about how the video game industry works over the course of knowing this channel. It's so refreshing to hear intelligent conversations about how this very specific business works.

wheres shenmue! it got more views then most videos yet they stop it half way?

Another great discussion this week! These podcasts are always the best hour of the week. Merry Christmas to all of you!

Why was the thumbnail changed?

This podcast was incredibly refreshing, because I love to just switch my brain off and watch content, but there is something rewarding about listening to an intellectually stimulating conversation about some relevant social issues.

Yes you were right about everything, even battlefront being an amazing game- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I like how when you get in arguments/discussions you start putting your point in such a way that you go past the part of what you actually think, but still try your hardest to defend it because you already stated your stance. It happens to me a lot actually, where you go "Hey this is my thought on this." But someone says something slightly different from what you believe and slightly off topic, but enough so that it could be interpreted as being on topic. At that point you go way beyond what the discussion was about. For example I can use addiction. You start talking about how addiction, but end up talking about freedom and rights. Then again to make valid points you have to cover all the things that go directly or indirectly with those things. What I found out with me is I have to pause and try and find out what the original topic was. In a way it just brings things in endless circles and talking about them does nothing, but making things happen or talking about changes that could happen and how it affects it things is productive. I think the society today is all talk and that's our biggest problem. I really hope they do put "Game Responsibly" in videos games, because who cares? That's not affecting your freedom. You still make the choice to keep playing, but maybe that little message helps you. Even if it only helps one person out of billions, its a step in the right direction. We need more actions and less speculations. In the end of it all you learn nothing by saying things, but changing them shows what actually happens. #trollbait

I have a very addictive personality. I LOVE Fallout: New Vegas. But I do not believe in games being addictive like cigarettes or heroin. In my opinion, this Russian guy doesn't deserve any money from Bethesda. I know that I'm going to want to play it for days, but despite my addictive personality, I can stop myself. I really don't believe that not playing a video game will cause physical or SEVERE mental problems. Example: Quitting smoking = Anger, weakness, sickness, etc. Quitting heavy drugs = shakes, excessive sweating, extreme emotions, etc. Quitting video games = boredom. =\

I'm 30, love poop jokes and enjoy well thought out and articulated internet conversation... THANKS FUNHAUS

Maybe you guys shouldn't be talking about medical conditions you have no knowledge about. Fuck, watching this almost made me angry

I've studied addiction for many years, and what I've found is that actually most things can trigger the wet stuff in your brain to become hooked. It's just that the mundane things, such as watching TV, drinking tea, etc, go unnoticed. Nearly every corporation that's selling something is trying to tap into that primitive area that gets us addicted. Whether it be payday loans or branded lipstick. I think it's important to understand that addiction, in most cases, is not necessarily down to ones 'addictive personality', but more the conditions of how the person lives. As one of you touched upon, the person with no social life is more likely to form an addiction to watching videos of RU-vid personalities. With video games, it's probably a similar thing. I believe that addiction can be the result of indulging in a mimic of reality that's fills a void in your life (such as an Internet-based social life), or an escape from a harsh reality as is the case with many drug addicts. I do believe video games should always come with a warning, but the bigger picture is that we as individuals must realise the superficially of such things, like seeking satisfaction through reward systems, and become more attuned to the things that really matter, and I think the result of that would be less addictions to these things all around. But hey, I've smoked cigarettes like a mad man all my life. The best thing we can do is attempt progress ourselves, as opposed to demand everyone around flash warnings in our faces.

the addiction debate near the end was just beautiful. nearly everyone had different opinions on it. enjoyed that immensely, good job guys.

What are you guys talking about? Tomb Raider was announced as a timed exclusive since day one. That wasn't a prediction of any kind. Microsoft explicitly said "Available THIS YEAR only on Xbox and PC"".

Hey guys, I'm 33 and don't feel old. I love games and have played them along time. I love this channel and what you guys do. No matter of the age of your audience, please continue with the excellent quality you keep putting out. I would love to meet you guys one day. It might be difficult as I live in the UK and I'm stuck in a wheelchair. You guys make my life worth living after my motorcycle accident. Thanks so much and "Happy New Year"

Thanks Funhaus. I watched this, this morning while making chilly from scratch and decided to have a beer. I don't know if it's the onion or the shame, but I can't stop crying.

MGS 4 had warning messages during the loading times between each act. Simple things like "You should take a break every few hours to rest your eyes." and "Smoking may cause cancer." To be honest, whenever that "take a break" message showed up I really did take it seriously and went for a glass of water to stretch out. (Not mentioning the fact that those download times took more than a few minutes get done) Like James says, it costs really nothing to put something like that in and it can save both parties of stupid situations like people playing for days at a time.

If this discussion had lasted another hour, I would have gladly watched. There aren't many places in our society where you can find such deep discussion and debate. I applaud you guys for marrying humor and fun with intelligence.

Joel shaking his head to that we are your internet friends: golden!

This is probably the most interesting video I've ever watched on RU-vid. That may sound a bit sad, but it was really interesting hearing these guys have a proper conversation about addiction and whether or not society and the industry should perhaps take it more seriously. I have a great interest in psychology, and some points brought up - particularly by James and Lawrence - were very interesting. I agree with James that a screen saying "game responsibly" or something to that effect would be a worthwhile thing to do. Most people would just skip past it of course, but for some it could be that subconscious "voice" that is blocked for them, which would usually stop and make them question if they do need to take a step back from the game and make use of some of that time elsewhere. Good podcast Funhaus. I recently showed a couple of my friends some of your videos to show what they've been missing out on and now they are regular viewers like myself.

As an undergrad in psychology, I can totally understand James' concern at 58:00. It's actually one of the pressing issues in clinical psychology and it is nice to see that James and (I hope) many others start to view mental disorders as not necessarily a negative thing but just something that is different.

I love how they dodged the question of them playing up the "internet friend" angle

really enjoyed this.btw, i was a heroin addict for twelve years and a meth addict for two, when i got clean i began gaming muc more and am now a daily gamer and it helps me keep my mind busy when i have down time and helps keep me out of trouble. my story isnt important but it was nice hearing the subject talked about in relation to gaming, just addiction in general i mean. love the cast and all the Haus, keep it up

I'm a 42 year old woman who loves this podcast and you guys are great!

I really enjoy the introspective thought that the conversation towards the end of the podcast provided. I'd like to get more of that from the podcast every once in a while. If not, that's completely fine.

I've been watching these guys for a long time and I can honestly say I like how Lawrence has developed over time. He's very well informed and very well spoken on the subjects, bravo.

When Adam was talking about internet friends, Joel was shaking his head in disapproval in the background.

I think I've watched this Dude Soup probably 10 times this month just to hear Lawrence say "LOOK AT THE TEETH IN THE MOUTH OF THE DINOSAUUUR!"

Do you guys remember when that Tomb Raider guy was on a dude soup podcast? And he gave very vague, hugely elongated answers about how great the console was and so on. That reminds me when they are talking about people from the company being as distant as they could when it came to answers.

Adam wants a world where we as the consumers have to put our faith in the goodwill of the companies trying to sell us products, that they aren't trying to dupe us into something. (Big Tobacco etc.. etc..). Regulation is necessary to protect the consumer.

I thought James' argument about game addiction was very eloquent. He made some legitimate points and defended his position extremely well. Funhaus as a whole provides some of the best games industry debate around.

Had to stop this video midway to commend the Funhaus crew for their (always) awesome insight. 30:00-31:00 they talk about being civil and respectful interweb chat, and I love that they do that. I'm so proud of this group of guys for I guess you could call advertising the idea of humility when you comment on the internet. I'm being sappy and whatevernothaveyou, but.. big thumbs up Funhaus. I love all you guys, all of what you bring to RU-vid. Such a great and entertaining channel.

This may have been the best Dude Soup I've watched so far, I really enjoyed the discussion in the second half of the video and I hope we see this side of Funhaus a little bit more often. Also, I really do enjoy the news stories you guys have provided for us this year and I hope you guys keep up the good work.

Lawrence i really appreciated the way you talked about the Fall out 4 addiction. The way you talked to adam and played devils advocate was really vital to the conversation movement. :D

Adam may as well just be spinning around singing "Look at all these fallacies I have!"

i was the guy who posted the thread about adam talking about fallout being game of the year over witcher in openhaus,I didnt mean it to be me saying "look how wrong adam was" sorry if it came off that way. :)

I actually work in the games industry as a concept artist. You guys are my favorite games news to keep up with. It's actually how i keep in contact with the rest of my industry and the going ons. Ps great discussion today mates, keep it up!

I'm thinking of all the PSAs that can come out. Something like just Spongebob(or whatever the kids are watching) in a darkroom then holds up a DVD and says "This is Fallout"

I look forward to Funhaus videos in the same way a child looks forward to Saturday morning cartoons.

I'm actually somewhat relieved that they know I have no friends and that I watch their videos because it let's me experience that atmosphere of being around a group of friends. That's something I don't get in my actual life, but I still have an urge for.

- I am addicted to Funhaus because of the intellectual conversations you guys have that I lack in my social life, because everyone I know has smartphones showing facebook for heads. -

I was really hooked into the discussion from this podcast, so hooked that It kept me from doing my job, I had no idea it was gonna be so interesting to hear, and I can't stop replaying some of your other videos! I think I'm addicted. Now I made less money and my wife is gonna leave me! I'm suing you Funhaus!! I'm musician so you're gonna pay me back with 7000 Scrobbles for emotional distress!!

I get what James is saying about the PNG that games may be addictive in nature. Its the same thing with the warning on seizures and the one that states to rest every hour around ten minutes. Personally I've never had a seizure due to light patterns or really have felt tired but still take breaks around every two hours if I am playing for long periods of time. However, I still appreciate companies putting that info in there to warn potential buyers about these different medical issues.

"Peake himself should've gonne to bed but he kept playing" - Fallout 4 review 10/10

Keep doing what you're doing, guys. Can't imagine a day without some of your content.

Good idea for a podcast. Clever way to send off the year, looking back at everything that has happened and has changed.

Man that Turok gameplay gave me motion sickness

i appreciate the hell out of you guys. im in my mid 20's and i feel like there isnt much out there for me to consume in the gaming community. you guys make something that i can consume and understand, and comes to my level. your content also entertains, which is a big plus. keep up the good work guys, and thanks

"we are peoples internet friends" *joel shakes head 1:05:44

I was proofreading a psychology text book just before xmas and it had a chapter on addiction and a section for studies that were done for video games, the gist of it was, people who get addicted to video games already have addictive personalities. Also, other studies done looking for a correlation between violence and video games (over the last 17 years or so) found 'normal' well adjusted people were no more likely to have violent tendencies after playing violent games and it only slightly increased the risk in people who had already demonstrated a more violent personality .

Love watching Lawrence speedrun Turok. Funhaus sometimes outdid gaming journalism better than IGN & Gamespot, I really appreciate their effort for that.

Bruce is scientifically right. Anything that generates a sufficient pleasure response can be addicting. Addiction boils down to a learned response without control. It's simple learning behavior, you learn something is good and you constantly crave it because your brain itself is telling you you need more.

@ 1:05:39 I love Joel's reaction in the background to what Adam's saying

Me: "I should go to bed.... but just one more video of Funhaus, and than its bed" *Watching the whole playlist of Funhaus Gta V, goes to bed at shit o'clock"

I don't really want to blabber on about addiction but as someone who has experienced it and thoroughly looked into why it happens, the common factor of all addiction isn't the thing you are using, it's the experience and the 'high' you get from it that you become addicted to. Your body and/or mind cross a line from casual use to needing that experience or high to function. You said yourselves before about Call Of Duty having a reward system of having loud guitar noises and a big WELLDONE YOU WINZ HAVE A COOKIE every time you do something to make the player feel accomplished from playing well, that is basically how it works in general with addiction whether it be to substance, drink, gambling, skydiving, anything. Moderation is a healthy way of living with anything in life, too much is bad (even too much fruit causes problems). You just gotta take a step back occasionally, be smart about what you're doing and think. Anyways good Dude Soup as always, hope you guys have a good Christmas/etc x

Baldur's Gate 2 had a loading screen that said something to the effect of "Take a break and have a sandwich... we don't want to lose any of our dedicated players."

Loved the discussion/debate at the end. Great Vid.

thank you for touching on mental illness like depression and addiction x (y'all are awesome)

Brought up a lot of really good points about consumers and how companies in some ways control what the player wants.

im not much of a gamer, in fact i dont really care for it but you guys are great and make it seem interesting, well at least to me..

Honestly, FunHaus has gotta be one of the best things to come out of RU-vid this year. In addition to your fucking /hilarious/ game plays, you guys are probably the only legitimate source of gaming journalism outside of TB or Rev3 (if they're even still around, I haven't seen them anywhere). In fact idk if those guys even count at all, because you're all incredibly quick to point out that rumor are just that- RUMORS- while still offering your own very well-thought-out and informed opinions, very often going against the grain of most RU-vidrs' mindsets, which causes a lot of controversy and debate in the comments section. Plus, you guys remember that all-important but so often forgotten axiom: GAMES DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE TAKEN SO DAMN SERIOUSLY. On a side note, y'all have also spawned one of the most respectful and good-natured comments sections in all of RU-vid. So thanks guys, for making 2015 an awesome year for RU-vidrs.

I see one problem with Bethesda adding in the warning screen. For legal reasons, the lawyers can now say "look...they knew it was addictive enough that they added a screen after the fact". This would almost ensure them as targets for multiple cases.

On their discussion about warnings in computer games, there was a loading screen in Baldur's Gate 2 (I think) that read "Your party does not need to eat, but you do!" or something like that.

One of the best podcasts you guys made this year, great work you have done here!

this is the "sorry weve been assholes all year" podcast

Nothing like multiple commercial breaks while watching this.... And I know im addicted to fallout 4. First game in a very long time where I play every day.

It's cool to see you guys taking a story or concept from gaming and use it to discuss larger topics like addiction and regulation. One of the most interesting and enjoyable dude soups!

You really touch the deep things there in the last half of the podcast. Super-work, guys, real interesting. Thank you SO MUCH for this and past years, keep up the good work. Cold hugs from Sweden