They aren’t even parents. They are “contemporary slave owners”. I hope Phil does a deep dive on this. Estimates say over 400k slaves exist here in the US.
@chellyblue I agree, but Phil referred to them as parents, the court probably is too. I'm honestly still stunned, I can't believe ANYONE could treat children that way
I’m a former local WV reporter. I’m BEGGING Phil to dive into the Mountain State Spotlight coverage of the failures of the WV foster care system. From the failure to stop a *reported* mother from killing her children and herself in Greenbrier County in 2021 to the constant reports of the state underfunding of the department, the foster care failures in this case are *systemic*
I'd like to add Texas to that list. They are notorious for ignoring the abuse of children and actually have a program that sells foster kids to out of state adoptive "parents".
It's not just WVU. It's everywhere. The foster care system will look the other way for basically using kids as slave laborers or with abusive parents, but if kids are put in a home with parents of a different race than them then holy cow they'll be sure to move those kids quick. I know that there was an issue many years back with indigenous kids not being in homes with indigenous foster parents, and I understand the desire to try to prioritize foster parents who hold a similar ethnic background or culture. But it isn't everything. CPS, at least where I'm from, has overcorrected in this department and seemingly don't want any kids in homes with parents of a different racial makeup if it can be avoided. My friend works with the foster care system and he's seen white kids taken away from wonderful non-white foster parents and he's seen non-white kids taken away from wonderful white foster parents, only for them to end up in abusive homes, because the system cared more for the racial makeup of the foster parents than they cared about more important factors.
They don't need more money, they need to hire better workers. Even you suggesting that all the adopted children scandals are due to underfunding screams of LOW IQ.
I mean.... Let's be intellectually honest for a second... this is a wild instance for sure, an outlier even, but, with the US judicial and lawmakers history of enshrining racism.... is it REALLY a stretch to believe that this could happen?
Sorry Phil. Had to skip the first story. It hit too close to home. As someone who was stripped naked in front of the school board to show them my heel to neck bruises and cuts from a recent beating... just to have them call my abuser, tell them what I said, and then turn me over to him. You have no idea the abuse people will ignore untill you've been ignored while being abused...
Wow, holy shit. I had a similar experience at a police station, but they went that night and picked him up. Disgusting that the school board would react that way
As someone who grew up on a reservation, I'm sadly not shocked that that couple was able to adopt those black children so easily. Social workers and agencies often view families of colour as inferior and think the children are better off with white families. The 60s Scoop was a prime example of this. In Canada during the 1960s, a bunch of social welfare policies were enacted that empowered social workers to come into Indigenous communities and scoop up children en masse and place them in foster care. Social workers would come, make inspections, come up with nonsense reasons and take the kids away from their parents. They viewed Indigenous parents as incapable of being proper parents, and the fear around social workers stuck. Growing up they were basically viewed as the boogeymen.
You do realize many of them were incapable correct? My buddy wishes he got scooped instead of being tied to chairs with his brother every night so his parents could go out drinking and not bother paying a babysitter, because the service workers told them numerous times they can't just let little kids run around by themselves all night. And he had it lucky compared to a lot of his friends, he was only beaten a few times a week instead of every night. They were given plenty of chances to fix themselves for their children too, he should have been taken but wasnt. Of course people like that don't like social services coming around. Your insight into the scoop is heavily one sided, but hey what isn't when it comes to these issues. Most of the country is still dense enough to believe the headlines about mass graves being found everywhere. And guess what, social workers have always had the right to take kids, that's their job. Do some kids get taken away when they shouldn't have been? Yes, it's impossible to have a perfect success rate when we're talking about a large system. Of course some natives are going to be affected by that as well. It's still better to have than not. I was taken away because my mother was drinking. No prior issues whatsoever and I remember it happening. She got herself right and jumped through the hoops she needed to to get me back. Many parents don't, and that's the reality you seem to be leaving out of your post. And even despite that tons of native kids are getting put back with parents who shouldn't have them. The foster system isn't perfect but it's better to have it than not. Guess what, most parents who have the system taking their kids aren't going to give you the real reasons/full story. They're going to play the victim, or act like it was totally out of line for it to happen etc. And sometimes that is the case, but not most of the time. And even though I was taken and feel it was an overreaction, it was still a good wake up call for my mom. The way people talk about the scoop people with little knowledge of it get some impression that most native kids were being rounded up for no reason other than being native. And that's just not the case.
@@kltil5082 The overwhelming majority were perfectly capable you generalizing racist. Native children were just being rounded up just for being native. That was the goal, to separate native children from their parents to prevent cultural transmission. You come across as the type of ignorant person who defends residential schools.
unfortunately discriminating against LGBTQ and or polly ( or USA religious minority's like non-creep-LDS/FLDS and possibly still Jewish/or/atheist-Polly couples but im not up to snuff on court records in 2024~ ) or trans/born-intersexual-as-the-parent parenting happens as well, look up Tennessee/others court's and you can clearly see my points i get "farm/divorced-suburbia choir's " as my childhood had some ( my family/normally-parents-ect lifestyle choice's OTR/contractor-commercial-mostly are different from queer-mine and parts we don't agree on etc ) but this's isn't how id treating my minor's/kid's time-out for 2~ hours in the shed/barn doing homework at desk or rock-picking/weeding maybe but that's for violent and or super rude/disrespect there moms/bi-wifes or me or school-teacher's-ect my-childhood/single mother looking back failed myself/younger-sibling them being worse off, so im not sure if CPS-Idaho/N-Utah would have been better or not but i know i carry regret of not enforcing changes like having them living under my roof and away from the boyfriend/step-parent-etc and ranch as the outcome by 25yo sucks nowadays etc
@@kltil5082 That is 100% a bs racist trope I doubt your story your friend or anything you said is true. Indeginous people NEVER DID WHAT YOU CLAIMED till they got addicted to alcohol from the white man. Pls you probably never new a single indigenous person in your life with that star tour response.
Yeah I had to go back and watch that again! How fucking funny is that? Chris Hansen himself was like yeah this would be one of those situations where you would need to sit down and wait for the cops who are already on their way!!! Go Chris Hanson for showing up when you need to!
I'm from Canada, we have a public school board and a catholic board, both publicly funded and it drives me nuts. Canada doesn't have a separation of church and state like the US. It is a policy I and many other believe should be ended, but sadly I don't see that happening for various reasons, at least not any time soon. I'm an atheist and queer. Was forced to go to church until I moved out at 17. It is really demoralizing knowing that taxes I pay end up in organizations that have for years ostracized me and those like me.
The difference is our catholic schools are still under curriculum like public schools. I did summer school in HS to fast track a class in my local catholic and it was nicer than the public. Asked a friend who went to a different one and aside from 1 less elective it's the same. Even knew a Muslim guy in HS who went to a catholic elementary school because it was better, said he never had a problem there.
Canadian here too and in Newfoundland, I remember that, as a kid, during the class "Religion" in school, Catholic kids were sent off to another place while the rest of us were stuck taking that class. And then in Plaster Rock, NB, there is a school that is attached to the Pentecostal Church there, paid for by the members, and their kids go to it. I would hope that those in the US who might end up having a public "Religious" school would then push to have a Satanist Temple school, a Wiccan school and so on. Who knows, there might be tons of kids who would like those schools.
Heck we don’t have a separation of church and state anymore either. When/if Trump takes office(and it’s a very real possibility) you’re gonna see what a real terrible Theocracy looks like 😬
If your guardians want you in a religious school then guess what, you're going to a religious school. I don't know why you think that would have been any different in the US, children have little choice in these things. The US religious schools are way more intense than anything I've seen in Canada, they also don't have to follow the public curriculum if they don't want, so at least you got somewhat of a normal education in Canada. Boo hoo you had to go to church sometimes, tons of kids who don't go to catholic schools are still forced as well, you don't see them crying over it I'm gay too, just ignore the people who don't understand it. Don't have to act like a victim your whole life. I had to hide my relationships and I wasn't even in religious schooling. It's just not something you want anyone knowing about, especially 20 years ago. You had no problem ignoring their anti atheist stances so ignore their anti gay ones the same way. And newsflash, your taxes are going to way worse things than helping religious kids not have a completely useless education, so hope that makes you feel better lol.
I was adopted from Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 by my mother who was white and was Consul General for the US when overseas. I was lucky to have been adopted by Her. Not so many adoption go so lucky for the kids adopted. The adoption services need to be better and do better. That’s insane that those kids had to endure such horrible abuse by the ones they think love them. 😢 good job on the prosecutors not allowing it to be a slap on the wrist.
More good than bad. There's plenty of bad foster parents out there but it's not the norm. I knew plenty of foster kids, they all had way better lives than they would have otherwise. Only one guy I knew had parents that weren't great to him, but they weren't great to him because he was out of control and they didn't know what to do with this almost grown man in their house who refused to stop doing drugs and committing violent crime. His foster dad started smacking him not knowing what else to do and just losing his patience. Long story short my buddy went to jail for robbing someone, got off drugs and now he's totally fine. Still talks to his foster parents even though he's like 35. Again, not defending the dad hitting him, but at least he wasn't doing it because he got off on hurting people, he was just completely out of patience and it seemed to be the only punishment my idiot friend would somewhat listen to.
“Where was the social worker” “Where were the teachers” As a teacher, I couldn’t agree more. More forgiving to the teachers because there’s not much they could do, but the social worker? What the actual flip. Imagine letting a case like that slip by, and I’ve worked with social workers before and I can testify that whoever handled that case probably still has a job.
Yea well when the average social worker is handling 30+ cases simultaneously which is like 2x the maximum that is recommended its not a surprise. Not to mention how underfunded they are
They "homeschooled" the kids for this exact reason, and its partly why the neighbors finally said something because they wondered when they were doing any schooling if they were outside doing farmwork all day. Also remember, this is West Virginia, they had a teachers' strike back in 2018 because they didn't pay teachers' promised raises and I'm sure COVID didn't make things better. And if teachers aren't getting properly paid and suffering a shortage, you KNOW CPS is even worse. This is the type of shitshow that happens when the only civil service that is properly funded are the cops. Unfortunately this had been going on for "several years" by the time someone did something.
I’m guessing they never even sent them to school under the guise of “homeschooling,” so I’ll give the teachers a pass in this scenario. Probably never even met the poor kids lol
Don't forget that not much money goes into social work. Sometimes you have one person that's doing a broad area. And if the couple knew that they were coming they would just have the kids dressed up ready for them.
I started teaching in 2017 and had 3 good years before covid. Since then it seems like more and more states are pushing legislature to divert public funds from public education. (starting charter schools, voucher schemes, etc.) Recently the fun thing going on in my state is they are trying to pass a voucher program. In 2023 there was a successful petition drive to let the voters decide if the bill would get repealed or not this November. So what our state reps did in this years session was was: come up with another bill that would still divert public tax dollars (like the voucher program would do) regardless of how the vote turns out. side note: our state legislature also floated a bill that would outlaw the Mercator projection maps in all public schools.
The thing I find wild about a public religious school is how the entire point of religious freedom was the ability to VOLUNTARILY participate in it. Say you're a parent that lives by the new school who can't afford to move, that makes the admission of your child to a religious environment entirely against your will. Churches and other places of worship are a place you can go at anytime whenever you so choose. Schools do not uphold those same guidelines. How then is it fair to mix the two?
@@evials9123 when the school forces religious conduct and rules on the students, a kid not being religious wouldn't stop the faculty from enforcing religious based ideologies on them. My brother and I spent about a year in a Baptist Christian school during elementary, and I saw teachers berate my brother for being left handed. He was forced to write with his right hand because, to them, being left handed is a sin. There were weirder things that happened, but point being that shit certainly doesn't need to happen at all, and definitely not in a public school.
Grew up with a single mother, dirt poor my whole life. We moved around a lot. If your parents didn't want to move then they obviously care more about staying where they're at then what you want schoolwise. That's the reality buddy. We didn't have enough to move somewhere rich, but there's always a way to move somewhere else if you really want to, anyone denying this is making excuses. No one has a gun to your head to rent one place over another. I wouldn't expect a religious school to not immerse me in their culture if I went to one. Suck it up and move if you don't like it, or else homeschool your kid. If my kid was having big problems with the school they were at then I'd be moving them to somewhere that wasn't the case. Even if that means living out of a car/couchsurfing and saving rent money for a moving van etc like my mom had to do a few times. But I doubt your parents were that poor that they'd even have to do that. Most people can scrape up a few hundred bucks if they really needed to for a moving van. And if you don't mess up your place you get the deposit back to spend on the next one. No one is stopping you from homeschooling your kids, which quite frankly was what nature intended anyways. And given how easy it is for online schooling these days, I mean you're just complaining about a non issue.
The government sponsoring a religious school would open up a Pandora’s box, soon every denomination in and out of the state would fight for state or federal funding of their teachings, and it’s very clear that there will be some double standards when it comes to the sponsoring of Christian and non-Christian religious schools.
I went to elementary school with a girl who was adopted. She was treated way differently than her siblings that were from the parents and it was absolutely horrible. They had extreme punishments for only her too. When she “talked back” they’d cut her braids to the stub in the front of her hair. They knew it would take years to grow back and embarrass her It makes my blood boil to this day when I think about it and I wish I did more to stand up for her but she also wanted to protect her adopted parents because they convinced her they saved her.
As someone who has served on a grand jury, the bar to indict is very low. Generally, if there is no indictment, it means the prosecution brought forth little to no evidence. This is a symptom of the closeness of District Attorneys and Law Enforcement. Way too chummy with each other.
I was wondering if you could being some attention to the wild fire current burning in Ruidoso, NM. It started on 6/17, and as of today it has burnt over 25,000 acres. Love your show❤
As terrible as that first story is the International Labor Organization says "Over 50 million people are part of modern slavery. Modern slavery occurs in almost every country in the world and cuts across ethnic, cultural and religious lines. 52% of all forced labor and 25% of all forced marriages can be found in upper-middle income or high-income countries." People act surprised but it's getting worse yearly.
Not to mention a non-zero number (hard to known how many) of illegal immigrants are committing to debt slavery to the criminal organizations to pay them for bringing them over the border.
@@ctg4818 the 13th amendment made slavery illegal and successfully got rid of the legal slave organizations, but there are countless illegal slave organizations that are still thriving in the United States.
It's absolutely insane to me that Christians don't see the hypocrisy in being against LGBT messaging in schools and then trying to shove insane Christian cult nonsense down kid's throats.
“Where were the teachers?” Do you really think the adopted parents were sending the kids to school to learn to read and write if they were using them as slaves? Tired of teachers being blamed for everything.
I just want to point out, the mod that turn on Doc about the adultery, they alluded to mentions "of questionable ages" when they spoke of the people involved.
asking for age or the whispers is insane... especially after doc himself admitted to it... what ever happened to protecting the victim?? the people asking for this kind of information do not care about the victim and just want to fuel their drama-filled minds
@@thatdamncrow9197 I think if Doc didn't know the person was a minor, he would mention that, because it would make him look less horrible. Likewise, if the minor was 16 or 17, I'm sure he would mention that too, since it would make the situation appear less... extreme. But he didn't. So now I'm assuming the worst. Either way... why was he being inappropriate with young people on DMs? Isn't he married?
I don’t think that’s entirely true. As someone who was too young to be in yahoo chat rooms but still entered them at the age of 12, I purposely lied about my age to talk to older guys and knew plenty of other girls who also did, and I wouldn’t call myself a victim at the time unless something had happened. No one knew my real age. Knowing now how stupid and dangerous it is, I know it still happening. I don’t think anyone is asking for the name of this girl, and no one should be IMO, but it does make a very big difference in the situation, as far as he’s concerned. If this person was lying about their age or not - when Doc learned the actual age and if he continued speaking to them after finding out. 1 makes him just a cheater to his wife, which we already knew from the same time period when this happened, the other makes him a pedo. I still find it gross if the person was 17 as he was 35 at the time. I also am not sure how the profile pics worked with the whispers platform, and he did say no pictures were exchanged. Not sure if that means at all or just sexting.
wow you really nailed that. The watcher stuff could definitely be seen as disrespectful to fans but soooo many people keep calling it a betrayal that it's just annoying to me at this point.
The woman at 2:53 should think before she speaks. "They had to do farm work, well why didn't you speak up?" I lived in a small country town and our neighbors were farmers, I was 12ish and did farm work. I also did chores around the house and my chores included cutting grass, cutting down trees , dishes, taking care of the animals etc.... children learning things and getting their hands dirty with guidance is fine. NOW WITH ALL THAT SAID this couple are pure evil. They were clearly using these kids , neglecting them as well. The law will prevail on this one
This is so common, just not a blatant. It's one of the many huge issues the foster system is unable to combat properly while simultaneously sending kids to these houses
Disconnecting the battery will not shut the engine off. In fact, the simplest way to test for a bad alternator is to disconnect the battery while the engine is running. If it shuts off, you have a bad alternator. This is one of the most basic things that everyone learns when educationg yourself about automotive maintenance and troubleshooting. I can't believe they actually said that, and it got printed.
Nickmercs went from defending DrDisrespect to “I’m torn up about it but that’s unacceptable” to “I don’t really know the guy we took one pic together” 😅😅😅
Well Nickmercs is an idiot but at least he's not defending his actions, I'm sure the Tate type influencers would celebrate Dr. Disrespect, so like half the popular male Kick streamers.
I cant tell what pisses me off more. The poor children who thought they were going to a good home only to get treated like literal slaves; or the fact that this wasn't stopped til now.
What should piss you off is how many kids die every year working "family owned" farms, particularly those kids that suffer and die from nicotine poisoning on tobacco farms.
At their peak I would say Rooster Teeth was the closest thing to a community driven subscription model that say Disney or cartoon network would want. Cartoon network had destroy build destroy which was akin to slow mo guys… so basically get creators that fill a niche and don’t see them as expendable 1 season actors that have to worry about ratings or getting canceled
Stupid people will do stupid stuff. Important is to see it as as individuals failing and not a collective one. Those people advocating that in Oklahoma should have known better.
Or another case of why abortion rights are very very important. There are enough children out there that need loving homes we shouldn’t be forcing more kids into the world with parents who don’t even want them.
The whole "i wanna see what Doc said in those logs" and the "I want to know the age of the victim" that to me screams I want to try to justify his behavior. "Oh what he said wasn't that bad"
Most of the guys who desperately try and defend these types of actions are either kids who don't really understand the situation or older guys who are attracted to young girls and are basically projecting.
I dislike him and I'd like to see what he said. Weird blanket brush to paint everyone who is curious with, but alright. The victim's part should be blurred out, but his words should not.
@@kltil5082 I should've chosen my words more carefully that I am sorry for. A lot of his boys or people that were associated with him are saying that to me it seems like they want to just try to justify his behavior.
I appreciate the clarification. I think the details are really important-so important that they seem to have made all the difference, since Dr Disrespect apparently did nothing illegal. I’d like to know those details before forming any strong opinion. That’s not to justify his actions or to project anything about myself; it just seems like a sensible and measured approach to forming an opinion. Actually, in my mind, there’s much more projection, self-justification, and insecurity in all the moral outrage that’s based mostly on speculation. So many of the streamers and internet personalities now having their say about this Dr Disrespect thing-they’ve also been the targets of moral outrage in the past. You’d think they’d have learnt to tread carefully when it comes to this stuff.
The Yale professor said it, however the question was already answered. They can have a religious school no problem. It just can't be funded like a government simple, because that is the "state" and we separate that from religion
I feel heart broken for what those kids had to endure. but the comment the guy made in the video that He never thought he'd see slavery in America. He never seen what Prisoners are force to due for $0.02 cents an hour and the State or private business profit Widely from Slavery,
If you spend much time time working in Healthcare or Foster Care you learn some very demented characters are drawn to work in Psych & with children for very disturbing reasons.
I think it is unconstitutional that religious schools of ANY variety get tax payer money. "As no religion shall be favored by the government" is SUPPOSED to be part of the whole founding values... but we've been failing in that department since day one.
Our foster care system is notoriously HORRIBLE. Making it out of that system with a reasonably loving family is so incredibly rare, odds are most foster care kids grow up in the foster home. This story is not the fisrt of its kind and it wont be the last
Gay guy I knew was under extreme scrutiny from the American agency trying to adopt a girl from Vietnam.... Yet rich, white, straight couple has access to five black children from our own country. Despicable.
"If the battery were disconnected, the engine would stop immediately." This is not true at all. The alternator is what powers the car's electrical system once the engine is running. The battery simply serves as a sink for the excess electricity created by the alternator.
I came here to say this. The simplest way to test for a bad alternator is to disconnect the battery while yhe engine is running. If it shuts off, the alternator is bad. This lame ass excuse was put out there to try to create something to confuse the grand jury.
@@Svangen1 You're right, but jumping the car actually works best with the car running, because the alternator can put out more voltage than the battery does alone (14+ volts versus only 12). So really you're using the other car's alternator to do the jumping anyway (and if you're still having trouble getting the car started, you can rev the other car's engine for a bit more power, since the alternator is belt-driven).
That first story, one thing is the two garbage cans disguised as humans; but the most concerning part is that the adoption system is so desperate to alleviate their overcrowding of children, that five of them were adopted to the same people and no followup was given. There is a lot of negligence going on here and someone needs to do a deeper investigation. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
There's such a disparity in the system overall when it comes to adoption. On one hand, you have these trashcans who were able to get away with buying children for slave labor, and on the other hand you have people who struggled to get everything put through that needed to be done and are being excessively scrutinized over everything that they do. It's not just a race thing, frankly it's a regional thing.
So stupid, it is not religious discrimination if it bars ALL religious institutions. If you want to teach your kids religion, do it at home or send them to a private school. The no choice party can't freaking help itself.
Exactly! Nondiscrimination is important, but much more vague than the non-establishment part. Our tax dollars were very clearly NEVER intended for any religious establishment.
Totally agree and I'm religious. I just want the school to teach kids. They shouldn't have to teach kids discipline or religion or anything like that. That is something on the parents.
@@jameskearney4100 ...but then you have private religious institutes being funded by the state, which is literally not supposed to be a thing in your country as said by the founding fathers...
“Why didn’t [the neighbors] speak up!?” I grew up abused in the south and I noticed that everyone who noticed anything off always thought that it was none of their business and didn’t get involved. Unfortunately, it takes a lot for some people to get involved because they always feel like it’s not their business or give people the benefit of the doubt.
I've grown up and lived in West Virginia for 30 years and am myself a black man who was adopted, so that first story hits pretty close to home. It's hard to believe it went on for so long. I've read that the neighbors called the police several times, but they didn't do anything about it. They were called months before and only responded after the third instance of someone telling them directly that they were locking children in that shed with a padlock.
Evil bastards, i will say that seeing kids doing farm work on a farm/ranch is not weird to me. I cannot fault the neighbours here as on first glance it looks normal. I had to help out with farm jobs growing up as well coming from a white British man. But there is a world of difference between that and treating them indentured slaves let alone locking them in a shed. In my view the blame lies entirely with the "parents" and the social workers whose obligation was to make sure the children were being cared for, even if the police had never been called it should never have got to that point. These people should spend the rest of their lives behind bars and the money should go towards housing and educating the children.
Neighbors are usually afraid to report things like child abuse because usually nothing comes of it (even when it's blatant), and now they have a paranoid, hostile neighbor that's not bound by morality like regular people.
First story is WILD, but it should also put a spotlight on the adoption process. The number of hoops my family had to jump through to legally adopt my (was) niece now sister just makes seeing stories like these infuriating, obviously on top of the SLAVE part
Sadly, the more child is wanted, the more regulations there are, usually the younger the child, the more light skin, the child and the more open the adoption is i.e., the biological parents are involved, the more vetting is somewhat done. However, there are also anonymous adoptions where you don't know the parent or close adoptions. Or maybe the parents know each other, but the kid will never know the bio parent, kind of a situation or whatever. We're going through an adoption agency that takes all the straggler. Kids like older kids. Black kids etc are often cheaper to adopt. It doesn't have as much checks and balances. The sad thing is there will be happy. Homosexual couples that are looking for a kid that gets denied because many of these adoption agencies are just bent on looking religious and having the whole nuclear family look..
The whole situation is Shockingly symbolic of the brokenness of foster care/adoption infrastructure. Desperate and capable parents are rejected having over the wrong dog breed, meanwhile horrific abusers are given the rubber stamp of approval. The letter of the law is not always indicative of the spirit of the law, and this allows predators to slip through protections.
As a former foster child (14/18 years of my childhood), I lived in at least a dozen abusive households, although none of them were nearly as bad as literal modern-day slavery. I wasn't a bad kid or anything, I was actually exceptionally well-behaved, I just had a lot of foster parents change their mind about being foster parents a few months after taking in kids. Not one of the bad households was held accountable in any way. Not even when I spoke to social workers about how I was being treated, or even when I begged them to just move me somewhere else. Our country is doing far too little to protect our kids, and I think a huge part of it is because the adults in charge of their lives just don't give a shit about what the kids say. They're treated like livestock, not people. Kids are people, too. Also the extreme racism here is pretty obvious, I'm so glad that those scumbags are getting the book thrown at them.
I have two adopted children. They were in multiple foster homes before we found each other, and some of the stories of what they went through still enrage me. People are often quick to point out how kids in foster care have problems and are tough to parent, but I feel like it’s not as publicly known just how awful some foster parents are. The difference is, foster kids are spending their formative years without a real sense of stability, through no fault of their own and against their will. Foster parents are making their own choices, and failing miserably. And the foster care system is so underfunded and neglected, the case workers have so little power to actually have a strong impact against these types of things.
I've only lived in two foster homes during foster care. One didn't even remember my name after being there for a month. She called me the girl. I never really saw them and they would warn me not to run away or I would be dropped off at the shelter which hurt to hear. I lost 10 pounds from depression until I went to a new foster care where they treated me right.
I'm a former foster youth, was only in the system for 4 years and through 6 placements I was given hell. Foster parents, nine times out of ten, do not care about the kids they foster. One even told me, word for word, that I was nothing more than gov't property. I wish I was making that up, and I wish I could take away the years of pain my brother faced separated from me, thrown in more homes than he can count and traumatized in a group home. Foster care is so severely underfunded, relies on so many horrific people that view foster kids as nothing more than a quick paycheck. Social workers have almost no power, when I told my social worker my foster mom was violating my rights regarding religion (forcing me to participate), she said all I could do was endure it. I know my social worker was doing her best, I don't blame her at all. Their case loads are crazy, and there's not enough homes. I hope these kids can be placed into a good home and finally be given peace, or. At least something more tolerable than this.
As a black person I've known since i was called a slur at 4 years old what the world can be like. Even after all this time i don't think some people can understand what it feels like to be simultaneously the focus of so much hatred, but to also be completely ignored when you need help! To hear multiple cases of black people being seen as less than dirt, being stepped on for profit, or being used as a commodity, and then just putting away all the feelings of heartbreak and disgust because it's the same crap on a different day.
That moment when you try to call out racism by making essentialist statements about people’s physical appearance… The couple are pieces of shit though anyway
LMAO! Right? Just like when you see certain types of black people and you immediately know they're *******. Oh wait, this joke can only be woke. MY bad.
I’ve been a mechanic my entire life. If a battery becomes disconnected while the engine is running, as long as the alternator is in good health, the motor will still in fact be operational.
She also ignored the fact (or doesn’t know) that farming is a family business and seeing teens working on the farm is common. The fact they called means that they saw the work the kids were doing was beyond what’s reasonable
I agree. This is total bullshit. have friend that uses Grindr a lot and he makes everyone show him any form of ID with a picture. It’s not awkward, you can even make the request funny, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone claiming they were lied about someone’s age.
This is one story, I unfortunately imagine there are many instances of crap like this in this huge world that we don’t hear about. This is 2024 America.
@@TiggaknockI remember hearing one story about a white couple adopting some black children. They were very abusive and racist to the children, and one day the mother drove them off a cliff and unaliving the adopted children and herself.
@@Tiggaknock I remember hearing one story about a white couple adopting some ⚫️ children. They were very abusive and “anti ⚫️”to the children, and one day the mother drove them off a çļïff and unaliving the adopted children.
What’s so upsetting is how many kids in foster care and adoption are abused. Any system is going to have bad actors, but I’ve heard of multiple situations where kids are being used for their labor in similar situations.
I’ve been watching the Dropout shorts and clips on RU-vid for years at this point and finally got a subscription this week. Did I need to get it? No, they generally post the best clips, but I want to support them and see the whole thing
West virginian here. I was fresh from Leaving my CPS job when this news story hit. Horrific. We recently had another death of a teenager who was emaciated-all skin and bones. There's statewide reform to CPS coming. These kids deserve better. And the workers deserve better conditions too. Many of our workers have 60 to 90 cases and kids slip through the cracks because they can't be every where all at once, nor given the time to devote to each kid. It's rotten the whole way through.
@@Playingwithproxies That's what they're saying is that it's the system failing children and workers alike. We don't have enough people that want to do that job to help with the caseloads. If only all CPS critics would turn around and apply to actually help as well. I've been looking into CPS work to do alongside freelance court reporting.
The problem with Neckmercs' response is that he had way more energy when he went after Ava and did his "leave the kids alone" shtick, but this timid response to his friend actually having inappropriate discussions with a minor feels cowardly at worse and insanely inconsistent at best.
Mr Beast has a trans friend? Nickmercs spits venom and says Jimmy should drop her and disavow her. Nickmercs has a friend that admits to getting inappropriate with a minor? He starts going "Idk what you guys want from me"
@@rosenrot234it never is. They are monsters that just want to take no accountability for their actions while demonizing others based on what they think they might be doing. Keep in mind too the crowd that says “innocent until proven guilty” when it comes to people with actual credible grooming allegations against are the same that thinks Drag Queens reading a book to a child is on par with PDF
Ava simply existing, and doing literally not a single thing wrong and hurting no one: HOW DARE SHE JDHFKSIEHF Someone who has had a public relationship with and who he defended being an actual pdf fiIe: crickets
Anybody remember the Atlanta Episode where a white couple fostered several black children and forced them into labor? It’s crazy seeing something like this happening in real life
That first story is.. scarily relatable. My parents used me as physical labour, I was working on making an entire house at the age of 10. They pushed me so hard I have spinal injuries now. Being black and a child is crazy NGL and people just never believe you or tell you to get over it.
White person, here. But I was used as the solo laborer on two separate family owned farms from a young age. All of my joints are shot so badly that just swimming hurts. I'm 27.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b yeah, and due to a disability that makes me overheat in a matter of minutes when it's warmer than 40 degrees out, for most of the year it's the only form of exercise I can actually do. Unfortunately I won't be doing any better. My condition is chronic and I will have it for the rest of my life.
My little brother's dad and his two sisters were born and used for free labor. They weren't allowed to trick or treat on Halloween, just sit and watch all the other kids. They got mcdonalds toys for birthdays and Christmas. They were fed gross foods. Meanwhile, their dad was paying thousands upon thousands to fight the city to keep his mounds of junk and trash on his property.
for those kids i suspect many of the neighbors DID speak up, but in my experience CPS demands you provide them with proof before they'll even attempt to investigate
8:48 -- I don't know anything about the details, but in regard to Lewis' battery being disconnected: The engine will still continue to run if the car hadn't been shut off. The battery is just needed to restart it if it was shut off. Once started, the car's electrical power comes from the alternator. So it is possible that, if Lewis' engine was not shut off when he ended up in the ditch, he could have been revving it
An article by CBS News says the investigators performed a field test on Lewis' vehicle, and claimed removing the battery terminal, or lifting the air filter lid, stalled the engine. That makes this whole deal messier, and imo an expert should have diagnosed the issue. Normally the engine would keep running in both of those scenarios.
I’m heart broken as a black man. This is literally the third time I’ve seen that SAME HEADLINE in three years. I can’t remember the third family but feel free to look up the Hart couple and their 6 adopted black children they drove off of a cliff in california. EDIT: I remember the third case. A mentally unwell man, Johnathan Christopher Smith in South Carolina was forced to work in a restaurant for five years without pay. Beaten, abused, exploited, even if you don’t know the story you know what happened.
man that makes me sick to my stomach, this has seriously happened 3 times in the last 3 years? i cant believe nobodys talking about the other two. i hope Mr. Smith sued and got a big paycheque. i still cant believe what i just watched. fuck i was lied to as a kid that these things were getting better, i dont like to be pessimistic but america and the whole world still needs a lot of change. im sorry you have to feel this way brother, its not right.
Holy shit 😮 How have I not heard about the Hart murders? Also, what a failure of every system in place to "protect" children. Jesus. Utterly dumbfounded.
I was more listening than watching and I thought, well maybe these were two different clips. Went back and watched it, and nope, same guy, same clip. Absolutely insane, and no sense of irony.
Thank the gods for the prosecutor who pushed for more indictments for those monsters. I've always said that there should be more regulations regarding who gets to be a parent, not removing safeguards for those who DONT want to be parents...
The troubling part is that there are likely so many more children who get missed because people don't take the time to fight for those who can't fight for themselves. People care so much about children and preach that life is precious, until the kid is born...
If the courts argue that a religious entity(school, whatever) cannot be excluded from state funds like tuition and scholarships, then the courts must also argue that a religious entity cannot be excluded from paying taxes. As it stands, they're trying to say a religious entity does not have to pay taxes, and on top of that can have access to tax payer funds in the form of scholarships and tuition aid? Fuck that nonsense.
That's not quite right, what you're saying. The distinction that matters here is that all religions institutions must be treated equally. All granted access to charter money; or none. All excluded from taxation; or none. These are two separate issues under law; what religious institutions pay or are paid matters on the local law; and as long as they are treated equally, it is constitutional.
@@jer1014t2th Not if other people are exempt from those same benefits just for not being religious. You don't have true freedom of expression if your rights are dictated by other people's opinions/biases about your beliefs.
@@D_YellowMadness got a topical example? The entire discussion is whether religious entities can or should gain access to resources that are currently being directed....pretty much to anyone else.
Churches and other religious institutions don’t pay taxes because they don’t participate in politics or things like public schools. That’s supposed to be the exchange. Don’t preach on behalf of a political candidate from the pulpit, don’t pass the plate for a candidate’s campaign, don’t indoctrinate school children in your religious beliefs (education about one’s religious beliefs as part of a lesson about world religions or something similar is fine, but proselytizing is not), etc. Church leaders should not speak as an authority on governmental matters, and the government (including public schools) should not speak as an authority about religious beliefs and practices. And as part of this deal religious institutions don’t pay taxes. But increasingly lately, this line is getting blurrier and blurrier as a deliberate campaign from the right to push conservative politics in churches and Christian beliefs in public schools. The same people that would go to war if they thought their kid’s school was teaching Islamic beliefs or Hindu practices, are the ones pushing Christianity on non-Christians.
As an Oklahoman, I was furious about my tax money going to any religious school. Our governor does nothing but waste public money on policies and laws they know are unconstitutional.
And they cover for it with bullshit like "We didn't waste time trying to do something we knew we couldn't get away with! We _managed to PREVENT_ something you DON'T want to happen and that would never have actually happened anyway!" Like, there's a stretch and then there's the bullshit that guy said at 16:04. I mean, DAMN.
Stitt and his cronies are radicals. It's absolutely amazing how many people like him would actively denounce theocracies where Sharia Law is practiced, but they are actively trying to turn their state or the country into a theocracy. We have plenty of private schools if people want their kids to be educated in a religious school - but I don't want my tax money funding any sort of evangelical institution.
I'm from Oklahoma too. I have a major problem with them using my tax dollars to fund a Catholic charter school when the Catholic church's pay zero in taxes. It's a great deal for them. They get to spread thier form of Christianity while everyone else pays for it. No thanks.
I feel like asking why the neighbors, who called the cops on the "parents" didn't speak up, is kind of crazy. They did speak up. They called the cops. Kind of the most speaking up you can do.
I'm willing to bet the thought process of the neighbors went something like; "oh the kids our helping out on the farm" to "hey that's too many chores for/those kids are spending too much time out there" to "We need to call the cops, we need to call the cops right now".
As far as the neighbors for the slave owners...apparently they called the cops multiple times. Which somehow makes the fact they weren't helped sooner even worse.
Dude this happens with adults too… I worked for a older white lady a woman who came here from South Africa and her “husband” i say this because she treated him In Public at work as a beck in call slave and constantly threatened to send him back to Africa if he wasn’t fast enough for her. Then when i saw how she treated him at “their” home. He lived in a small Locked room in the Basement and had to be on constant movement at the moment any one of her kids or her needed him to do anything. All of those complete monsters acted just like her if he was slow or they just wanted to be mean they would threaten to send him back and tell him he had no rights call him the n word and everything. I quit and consistently tell all the businesses she cleans for about this complete crap i saw.
As a South African this checks out man - people from the apartheid generation treat others like property fr There’s a reason a lot of them left in the 90s
If I remember correctly a few years back there was another couple in Long Island that did something similar. It’s shameful of what’s going on and I hope justice is served.
Sadly even if justice is served those poor kids will forever be traumatised by this and probably still won’t get the therapy and help they actually need to recover
@@Jirangaaa I have to agree, I really hope those children are taken care of, it’s heinous to see this unfold and with the direction we are headed, it’s causing even more worry
That first story is wild! My husband and I are adopting and we are also farmers. As part of the homestudy process, we had to write up what expectations would be in regards to our children farming. Farming is a family business that does make money. If our children will help with farming, they will be paid as it goes above and beyond traditional home chores. At an age appropriate time, it will be expected for our children to help with farming but we hope to instill a love for it and if they refuse, they don’t have to. It’s like getting a job in high school
@MelodicQuest yes but tough on them. It has to be all or none. In the UK I went to a church school Protestant. We were taught about a lot of Faiths it was fascinating. We also had kids of other Faiths attending.We didn't foce kids to pray if it was not their faith and nor did they have to attend church visits the few times a year we did. We managed it by RESPECT if all faith and not racing it down others throats.
My daughter just asked me yesterday if there are still slaves in other countries, and I told her there were still slaves in this country. There still remains a significant section of Americans that see people of color as less than. That is the evil that leads to this.
Uh you realize enslaved women are far more prevalent correct? Why does everyone just ignore this reality and focus on race issues. It's infuriating. Not to mention black people have done this to white people, stop teaching your kid biases unless it's actually one sided. Black on white crime is far more common than the other way around. But something tells me you're going to leave that out of your lesson.
And in many states they don’t even educate kids on the fact that slavery ever existed. Making it much more likely that similar atrocities happen again Great country this is
The Oklahoma funding story is really interesting, not because of the validity of the arguments provided but due to the lack of validity of the argument for state-funded religious institutions. It isn't discrimination to prevent the establishment of any religion in the state/ in state funded programs, yet there are people acting as if it is. It's ironic, because the people who cry "snowflake!" every time they see someone with pink hair or a lip ring are the same people whining that the state won't fund their religious teachings. I've said it once and I'll say it again: Conservatives have always been and will continue to be precious little snowflakes. Ugh
Me being absolutely not surprised that the children in slavery were in West Virginia: 😐 Please let those kids have the safety and security they deserve, because a trauma like this - on so many levels - will destroy a soul.
Agree. And then people wonder why some individuals turn into violent criminals or drug addicts when they grow up. Maybe because they experienced something lile what these kids went through. Prayers to all of them. I really hope they're safe now.
Yes but the factors on how they where raised is super important if they where raised right we woupd not be having this problem in the first place, yes tramua explains bad actions not justifying them but never the less we should strive to help them raised right because like mr rogers said the most important thing we can teach a child is that they are loved and they are capible of love.
I really hope those kids ended up ok. I've seen SO MANY horrible parents around me! It's shocking and made me not want to have kids because every parent seemed completely miserable. Especially my own.
@@D4rthsunny Why would you need to go back in history when slavery of women and children is alive and well in every country propped up by disgusting men doing far worse to them than just telling them to do free labor? The labor jobs these girls get are a welcome BREAK from what they're actually there for.
Bro that first story sounds like a straight up parody, or somekind of dark joke like "Oh yeah this nice white couple adopted 5 black kids, the farms never been more productive!" or some shit like that
@@evials9123 your country would flip its shit if started funding a Muslim school. Also you guys should probably start paying teachers a living wage before you ask for gov money for your indoctrination school
@@evials9123 I don't know how someone could be so wrong about so many things all at once. I'm sure you have no idea how many Muslims live in the US. Saying they are any kind of security threat is so gross and stupid, I don't even have the words. btw... More unions for everyone!
@@evials9123 Nah I'm not about taking taxes from other programs and infrastructure repair, or paying more in taxes to fund a group that doesn't pay their own taxes. The US is not a religious country. If Christian/Catholic schools want to be publicly funded, they should pay taxes and allow other forms of religion to have their own schools as well. Muslim, Hindi, Jewish, Presbyterian and others should all be allowed as well. And they should all pay taxes. Public and Charter schools are already underfunded.
You know whats crazy is I grew up in foster care and this kind of stuff happens A LOT. Everyone in this country is concerned with everything else in this world except for the children that live in the U.S.
Oklahoma resident here. I am constantly amazed by the cognitive dissonance shown by people in this state. They would lose their minds if tax dollars were used to fund a Muslim school. How about instead of funding a religious school, we actually pay our teachers an actual wage?
WHY IS THERE EVEN AID FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS?! Is among many questions I have about this debate in the first place. Do you know where the US rates in education in the world now? It's not as high as it used be. We've been falling consistently since standardized testing, then villainizing immigrants WHO WE BRING IN FOR BEING SMART AND HAVE SINCE .... It's why we promoted immigration! then "No Child left behind Act" and basing districts funding from local property taxes and individual school test performances. I'll repeat a quote that answered " why should I care about and fund public education especially if I don't have a kid in it?" " BECUASE STUPID PEOPLE MAKE YOUR LIFE HARDER!"
After the courts desegregated the schools, the first religious exemption schools kinda kicked off. They just didn't want their ⚪ kids hanging out with others, lest they realise that racism is stupid. It does cost money to send kids to private schools, and so they're making everyone else pay. I personally believe in making churches pay for the schools. It's not taxation, churches do cry about secular values being evil, so let them pay for schooling and brainwashing the kids.
