Hey, Race from the future here. If you're curious after this stream I downpatched again. I had to end up blacklisting most of the DLC items out of my game while playing it just to enjoy it, and with using the new updated umbral there was no reason for me want to fight false son, so I was just left with a worse buggier experience that had a new coat of paint. DLC content is going to be rarer on this channel and unless enough mods are made, or its updated enough I probably won't engage much with it. I could make a lot of shitty content I don't enjoy on the DLC but I play this game because I like it so things like money or views or whatever aren't gonna move the needle for me here. These videos are just uploads of my live experiences, not scripted success farms. I had a moment this week where I couldn't even turn on the game/stream because the thought of playing the update and DLC was so personally unenjoyable to me lol, so that was my line. I'm sending a lot of bug reports directly through gearbox contacts and I'm trying to give as much helpful feedback as I can to make the game better for everyone in the meantime, and already I've helped solve some frustrating issues, so I'm not just turning my back on it. Just means I'm not going to be playing it for 'fun' as it is. Thanks for understanding (✿◡‿◡)
No problem dude I'm here more for the commentary...the game just looks more painfull any way and im sure most of us want you to just enjoy the game your pkaying
Totally feel you man, and it's definitely the right call. If you aren't having fun making the stream then I think it kind of defeats the point! Who knows though, maybe through this, some really cool mod work will come into play and the DLC will find new life. Either way, I'll be watching these :)
I don't stream but I got that same feeling no personal enjoyment when I went to open the game yesterday to play with a less experienced friend, so do you know if downpatched works with multi-player?
I was listening to this while playing the game myself. Race said "Everyone at launch missused a sale star at least once", and before i had time to process it, i missused my sale star
I really wish the SotS designers would be like Hugo Martin and talk about what they are thinking. Then we can see if it is what they thought was sound and the implementation was screwed up, or they truly do not understand how this game works on a fundamental level.
While I am dying to know I also feel like this just puts them in a spotlight position for harassment which I don't think is good. Gamers are very vocal and emotional creatures and if I've already gotten super nasty comments in the last couple weeks for pointing out things about the DLC I could only imagine what they'd go through
@@RacesVideos Something like the Factorio Friday Facts could be implemented though. In case you didn't know, every Friday, the Factorio devs post a blog on what they are working on, implementing, or fixing. It works very well, and makes them more transparent to the community.
Yeah idk, as someone who followed the Helldivers 2 community, I've seen first-hand just how awful people can be to specific devs they've identified as "the problem", and how quickly that can completely poison the relationship between the game's devs and their fans.
Even if everything in SotS was great, and not buggy or broken in anyway, let's see what it has to offer in comparison SotV: SotV added 41 items. SotS adds 19. SotV added 11 monsters. SotS adds 3. SotV added 5 environments. SotS adds 5 as well. SotV added 3 bosses. SotS adds 0. SotV added 1 special boss. SotS also adds 1 (albeit with nowhere near the spectacle). SotV added 3 new chest 'types' (Cradle, Potential, Category). SotS adds 0 (unless you include the Aurelionite Shards). SotV added 2 elite variants (Mending, Voidtouched). SotS adds 2 as well (Gilded and Garbage (Twisted is terrible game design)). SotV added a new game mode. SotS did not. SotV added 9 music tracks. SotS did as well (unless you include song of life, in which case it's 10 but like :/ ). This looks bad, right? Let's see what SotS did more of. SotS adds 3 Survivors. SotV added 2. SotS adds an Artifact. SotV did not. SotS adds 16 skins. SotV added 2. SotS adds 2 shrines. SotV added none. So out of all this, SotV has more content in 5/13 categories, they are equal in 4/13 categories, and SotS has more content in 4/13 categories. What is important to note though, is that in each category they tie in, it isn't actually 'equal'. Both DLC have 2 elite types! But, they aren't the same. SotV has Mending and Voidtouched. Mending is both good and bad, as it heals enemies but also the player when killed. Voidtouched only comes about when a Void Infestor touches the enemy, controlling them and fighting other enemies. Voidtouched gives the enemy one or two abilities, from the Void items. This is fantastic, because instead of just adding MORE, it adds DIFFERENT. Mending being the only 'good' elite gives it tactical usage from the player, keeping them around or killing them depending on the fight. Voidtouched is either a choice, in regards to opening void cradles; or it's also an environmental hazard and a challenge, thanks to the void seeds and the need to kill enemies to get the loot (and sometimes the teleporter). SotS has Gilded and Twisted. Gilded is... fine. It takes money, and you get it back when you kill them; it's annoying, but it's not cool or tactical or special in any way. They have loads of health, though that may not be intentional (and Overloading is a way better use of that concept). Twisted elites... SUCK! THEY SUCK! Loads of health, LOADS OF DAMAGE! Making any enemies you hit in their bubble ZAP YOU TO DEATH IN LIKE ONE HIT???? Not only is this a joke since they only spawn post Stage 5, meaning you're already likely to be clearing the entire stage without touching the keyboard (causing them to just kill you without you even knowing it happened), they hit through walls. THROUGH WALLS!!!! Elite types are tricky, because balancing them is really tough. The reason SotV's elites work so well is because one is both good and bad, and the other is the challenge you fight to reach a reward, whether it be the Void Cradles or the Void Seed. SotS's elites on the other hand, either bloat the elite pool with no interesting challenge (Gilded: they eat time and money, and soak up damage like a sponge making it boring as hell to have them in the game) or just downright terrible game design (Twisted. The fact this got through even the ideas phase is incredible). Both DLC have 9 music tracks (technically SotS has more, but like, come on guys). Both soundtracks are fantastic! I love both so much! I think SotV is my favourite, but SotS has more heavy stuff, which is nice. I love Face of the Deep, They Might As Well Be Dead, Once in a Lullaby, and Who Can Fathom The Soundless Depths! They're so varied and crazy, with amazing twists and turns in them. SotS has some absolute bangers as well! I love how insane the tempos and time signatures get, the switchups and twists are great! My favourite has to be Oṃ Maṇi Padme Hūṃ, part II (yes I copy pasted it) the jazz piano is an amazing twist on the RoR2 style. Yane no Mori is another favourite, I love how soulful it feels! The chill vibes and the amazing guitar solo near the end give it such a great feeling. But I do feel like SotS may overuse the guitar? Might have to sit on it more, as I haven't listened to this soundtrack as much, but I do find myself more recognising the style of the soundtrack, rather than each individual song like in SotV. The last category they are equal in is environments. Honestly, I like both sets. They add great 'variety' to the game, and a new stage 5 was GREATLY NEEDED! But, I do have qualms. SotV has Siphoned Forest, Aphelion Sanctuary and Sulfur Pools. The variety is high, with fantastic new (and wildly different) tracks for the stages. SotS has The Shattered Abodes, Reformed Altar, Treeborn Colony and Helminth Hatchery. These... could have been better. I love them, don't get me wrong. I like the music, and I like the variety. But they still have the same sort of vibe? I love the verticality of Helminth, but it reeeeaaaallly feels like Abyssal again. The hell aesthetic is nice, but like... the red is just there again. Going from Abyssal to Helminth gives the sort of "ow, my eyes" feeling more than anything else. And the other 3 stages have the same vibe. Grassy ruins overgrown with life, similar music tracks (they each have their own flair (and are fantastic)), and they have frustrating enemy choices. Especially since there are only 3 new enemies! The Scorch Wurms are actually the worst enemy in the game, digging underground constantly where you can't hit them, having fire areas with hitboxes WAY bigger than the visible orb, and massive health bars. Childs teleport around, ignoring freeze and stun stuff for the first couple tries (They're only on abodes though), and Halcyonite (while cool) reuses Voidlings code for the laser and just is repetitive and bland in my opinion (also he spawns rarely other than the shrines, meaning the variety is, again, low). The new stages lack enemy variety, adding four new areas with 3 new enemies; 1 of which feel awful to fight and one that barely spawns. The director has loads of credits on these stages it seems, giving soooo much loot every time I go. This is fine, and is kind of nice, but still a bit op. But the worst, THE WORST PART OF THESE NEW ENVIRONMENTS IS: The Path of the Colossus. Do you want the new survivor skins? You do? Play the same four stages, every run. WHATTTTT????? This, other than completely diverting the need for Dreaming for other environments (since the new ones have so much loot), you add the Halcyon Shrine which adds LOADS OF LOOT to stage 1 every time. Every time you ask? Yeah. It's real common stage 1, and if you don't see "You Hear Thunder Rumbling" in the chat, you restart. So that detracts from the difficulty a lot, but what else? So, every run aimed at the False Son is as follows: Fight Shrine, Go to Reformed Altar. Go to Treeborn Colony. Go to Prime Meridian. Go to Helminth Hatchery. Go to Mithrix. This is on Eclipse. If you don't play Eclipse, it's even worse. Shrine, Altar, Colony, Meridian, done. Game is over! Well played! This is just spitting in the face of RoR2's gameplay loop, in my opinion. The randomness and macro decisions of dreaming? Gone. Stage Fours that I love so much (minus Siren's)? Gone. The tough and grueling runs with difficult decisions? Gone. Obviously not completely, and I'm very opinionated on this, but the Path of the Colossus as a concept, in my opinion, sucks. Even though I like the stages, music, and the **idea** of fighting another boss on the way to Mithrix; this new 'path' is just not going to stand the test of time. Get the new skins, now what? There is no reason to go back! Edit: I tried to put the rest of this in the replies, but it wouldn't work for some reason, even when chopped into 10,000 character bites. So, I posted it on reddit here: reddit. com/r/riskofrain/comments/1ffs99w/seekers_of_the_storm_rant/ Remove the space between reddit. and com, not sure if RU-vid comments allow links but I accidentally spent five hours writing this shit so I'm getting it in here somehow.
Never managed to figure out the safer spaces host skip, but I still remember the first time I pulled off the easier host skip with head stompers. I got the biggest rush as engi launched himself high above the moon and this amazing feeling of “holy shit, I did that. I actually did that!”
Tbh they couldve left in the infinite beam for false son if they made it more costly. If they add a 50% damage debuff when you use the lazer for more than the normal time, its still good for proc but not for flat damage. Also you could nullify it with raincoat, making it useful for once. Or reflect it with noxious thorn and actually make a viable self damage build for mithrix, since needles would do a lot less.
I wish they would build upon the fact you can disable individual expansions in game. It would be great if we could disable individual items and enemies (cough twisted elites), while still keeping the new maps and such. even though there's mods for that already, giving that customizability to console and vanilla players in general would improve the game I think.
I think the next patch NEEDS to adress elites. The gilded elites are far too tanky for pre loop, normal elites spawn far too often, and the twisted elites are just STUPID BUSTED. Other than that i think the dlc is actually decent now.
yep! have heard that, though its through a slightly different interaction, the old interaction is gone for the other survivors, still feels bad we lost it for 15 characters
dw about uploading downpatch content, playing pre and post downpatch really highlights all of the subtle bugs that have randomly invaded RoR2, like yeah mithrix isn't inmortal anymore, but so many things about the difficulty or buggy interations mess up the fun stuff there is in the DLC
I know this video ended up mostly being a commentary on the DLC, but on a different note I just want to point out that this run is where game knowledge and experience really shine. I would never have thought to print infusions, print 11 so that the 10 scrap limit would allow me to keep the HP through 1 infusion, and THEN print 12 rosebucklers. And I'm willing to bet that few people saw that line either. I would just focus damage and assume that's my only way to win, but this shows that runs really are context-dependent and one run's trash is another run's treasure. You just have to know what to look for.
it was the stream that day, accidentally turned up the game volume and it was tied to the same audio channel as my voice, its fixed now (or for future vids and streams) sorry about that!
i personally want to play with the new content (since i enjoy playing seeker and false son for the moment), and the fixes are promising, but i very much miss the old item pool. nothing mods cant fix i guess but i wish there was more to them
I don’t know if this is a bug but if you turn off the dlc in the single player menu you can still play the new survivors with the old loot pool you just miss out on the stages. The reason I say it’s a bug is cause back when I tested it with the void dlc it didn’t let me play the survivors. Unless they just changed it idk.
Am I the only one that likes the fact that there are more elites early on? Sure it's a bit too much because it's a bug, but I think it's more fun when you an increased number of elites, and the extra gold is really good on 1st and 2nd stage
@@a_cats I haven't played the new patch yet, so I'm probably thinking of the director bug where it spawns a bunch of stuff, so there's more enemies in general
Hey race is there a way I can see the credit cost for loot/interactiables or where I can find said information; that seems like really important meta knowledge I have yet to learn
the wiki or riskofresources.com/credits, i dont if either are updated to the new maps but i know the new maps have lower odds of spawning anything void related
@@RacesVideos tysm man Ive been needing a chart for a while now, ive been trying this new mod I found that adds up to E16 and its been super fun but this should help a ton 😎
2 questions: - how do you ping the legendary chest without a line of sight on it? (on Grove) - how do you scrap 10/11 infusions? I thought all of them get scrapped
Race as a hypothetical question, assuming the game was left as it is in its current state by Gearbox, do you believe the community could make balance patches/mods that would be able to sway your opinion on the “funness” of the DLC, and thus encourage you play it in a non down patched but modded version of the game? As someone who this approach worked for I’d love to know your thoughts on that and what mods would need to be made for you to do that.
Anyone know if merc can still slam flying enemies in the dlc? I've been taking random damage while trimping as well and wanted to know if anyone else was experiencing the same. Its making me kinda sad cuz merc was my favorite character and i kinda feel like the update neutered him
@@RacesVideos but vields for a while has always stopped time but aside from that I always it as a non looping way to catch up and I feel like the risk of enemies holding really dangerous items to end your run early is a pretty big risk especially if you want to full clear vields
I made a video about it, but clearly I just don’t agree lol. Vields has never given you more rewards than it does right now in void fields history, and time was only ever paused before chests spawned there because you HAD to do the vents. They gave the map chests with an unpaused timer to balance it, and then gearbox paused it again making it the freest way to get items in the game as is
one of the largest complaints about the DLC is just how muted a majority of the items are, 7.5% chance to... knock an enemy into the air? what? reflect 10% damage 55% of the time?? these are whites! the baseline for how much percentage should be in the 10% to 20% range, when in gods name is it going to be more useful for me to have a knockback fin over a watch or crit, I get 10 crit and i deal double damage, I get 5 watches and I get double damage that I can loose if I'm careless. I get 10 knockback fins and I knock enemies into the air 3/4th's of the time, its not even guaranteed! don't get me started on the lanterns damage threshold never increasing with more stacks and its anti synergy with every single healing item in the game. chronic is borderline useless without an FMP build but meh, buff to FMP builds is cool so whatever, fireworks fill a similar niche anyway so I'm not actually complaining much about chronic. I'm not saying these items should be OP or that they should just be stat boosters, but they don't fill any type of niche! knockback fin would've been infinitely better if it also added some kind of damage buff against airborne enemies, antler shield would've been better if it applied a debuff or something instead of just reflecting the already meager in comparison damage and could contribute to deathmark in a pinch. THEN THERES THE REDS! get gold at the start of a stage (wow!) fire a boomerang 15% of the time that deals 30% damage (totally and completely overtuned, especially compared to sentient meat hooks) get 5 buffs? 20% more stats (doesn't even decrease the amount of buffs you need when you stack it) nuclear bomb 5%* of the time every single percentage for the reds i just listed (not including warbonds because that shit is a white item) could have their percentages (except for *maybe* the runic lens) tripled and it would still be balanced for reds, I don't get why (for example) growth nectar gives a conditional 20% increase to all stats, why just 20%?! behemoth gives 60% more damage and an AOE on the first stack and a completely different effect of increasing that new AOE's range from there on, why couldn't it be something like 50% increase to all stats with a decreasing requirement per stack? yeah it means that stacking more than the required amount is useless but its not like the games a stranger to that. the electric boomerang is a goddamn green item with its stat line, its got less chance to proc and deals less damage base and stacking than sentient meat hook, deals less damage, and arguably the stun is less effective than pulling enemies together to hit them with AOE items. you can't even say that they were trying to be frugal with the red items because they added literally just the artifact of sacrifice as an item. and the greens are all middling as hell except for salestar. luminous shot is alright at best but wasting my secondary abilities for a minute straight just to get 750% damage just ain't worth it, at most it gets used as an opener or as a spike of 150% damage in the middle of a fight, it *seems* like it should be good but every time I get it it just doesn't do much at all (plus the character who would love it the most, railgunner, cant even use the damn thing) noxious is literally just worse razor wire unstable transmitter got me killed after having it for 5 minutes and chance doll increases its chance to proc by 8% per stack for some reason we have enough things to scrap already, we didn't need more scrapper fuel. and I feel the need to compare this to SotV, where we got a completely new type of item, *and* the regular items were for the most part interesting, with the only real outliers being hunters harpoon and maybe bens raincoat, but if I remember right it was busted on launch so 🤷.
On r2modman click on the mod, click website, go to the versions tab, and then select the version that’s before august 27th, and it’ll install right though the launcher
The patch the game playable, but there IS still the problem with more elites. But the main problem are the items. They are so bad thst your run feels horrible. I still disable the dlc
Oh no, what a tragedy. He got the perfect combo, 3 chronobauble and a tentabauble! But because he incorrectly thinks tentabauble is bad he didn't take it.
it might be wiser to not immediately assume that people doing different things than you are stupid and wrong and instead ask yourself or them 'why' they'd be doing that instead
@@RacesVideos I'm not specifically calling you out, but ppl were talking about how gearbox should just quit and off themselves and I don't see the point in that. Then when you woolie disputed ray aka anyone with an impact says they won't play it. Gearbox gets dogged on again. The content isn't so bad to have to down patch. I agree the items are insanely bad. But the maps and the bug fixes still make it more then playable. I just don't see it. No hate to you or any of the guys love all the content y'all make.
I agree that a lot of the comments about gearbox and the devs have been awful and unacceptable. We should be able to be objective about the product and the situation instead of making it personal about these people just doing their jobs. That being said -- to me -- the content is so bad that I want to downpatch. I'm not having fun and to me that's just the line. It's okay if you don't understand, but try to understand at least from my perspective that there are a lot of direct and indirect changes that make me just not enjoy the experience. Playable shouldn't be the bar when I have a perfect working version a click away in a downpatch. I've responded to other comments on this video going more in length about what's wrong with this update to me and I don't want to spend time here doing it again. But thanks for understanding
@@RacesVideos i get it sorry if I came off as an ass, I think it's more then playable but I can see why you wouldn't want to. I almost did cuz I thought it would take over a month to patch it, but they did 2 pretty quick so I'm happy. I wish they did what sotv did with it being it's own item type. Kinda missed a pretty big QOL feature. I really like the maps tho.
This is just a little rant but every single bigger ror2 content creator I've watched is only tearing down the dlc and that's the only thing they've been doing. Like I understand answering some questions and expressing what's wrong with the game, but it's not good for the community when every video that's being made is just talking about how much you dislike what you're playing, and it's not that fun to watch. And at some points you're not even trying. Like there were multiple times in the video where you say you don't like something and then say you haven't tried it after the patch yet. It makes me feel bad for the devs because the dlc was rushed and it wasn't their fault, and they've clearly shown that they're willing and able to fix things and are listening to the community but the attitude everyone has been having towards them is awful. It's easy to tell that the way you talk about things is rubbing off on the people who watch you too. You were so in love with how the game was before that you're not even realizing that many of the things you have complained about have always been a thing. Like do you really think most of the maps in this game are well made and thought out? There were many useless items with no synergy that they completely changed since the game has been around, these things aren't new. The bugs obviously aren't fun but they are fixing those. They characters used to be very unbalanced and they had to make many changes. Hopoo wasn't perfect when they started out at all, and yet they improved and gave us the game we love today, and who's to say gearbox's team can't do the same. You can clearly tell that they're going through the same struggles that hopoo did when they started out, the only difference is that we've all been playing the game for years now instead of being enamored with it like we were before when we first played it. This is the cycle of a gaming community, everyone loves the game and then they create a version of how the game is supposed to be in their head, and then when things change they become so cynical. Many criticisms about the game are indeed warranted but it doesn't even feel like you like or actually care about the game, it just feels like you want to micromanage it and feel like you know better than the actual developers of the game you supposedly love so much.
That’s cool and all but I literally made a video going over all of the positives of the dlc to point out the good things lol. And have always been vocal about the things I don’t like that Hopoo has also done, not from a game science way, but just as a player. And I’ve been able to talk to gearbox directly to help fix a lot of the issues and have been helping. You think I’m just complaining but I’m doing more to help this game than you think, and that’s because I care more than most. I appreciate your psycho evaluation on me but most of what you said is absolutely wrong lol. I am a negative person a lot sure, I do like complaining, and I am rather cynical, but don’t assume who I am or what I’ve done because the dlc isn’t fun to me. I’ve actually been as fair to gearbox as I’ve been to Hopoo historically also. Maybe ask yourself why every single content creator is unhappy with the product they’ve been given and why it means a lot to them instead of
For example, did you know roost used to have 180 credits to spawn loot while plains had 220? Sometimes resulting in players having 1-2 items on the first stage. I complained about this to Hopoo, because at the time there was no incentive to play roost. I thought their way of randomly picking credit values per size of the map was atrocious and after pointing out to them the stages took similar lengths of time to cross at level 1 they actually agreed and changed it for everybody. I think Hopoo didn’t have as deep of an understanding of how impactful the credit system on stages really affects runs because they designed their game thinking time was more important than items. I will always call out bad maps like sirens call until the end of time, as I do every single time I go there. And is why I use dream portals when I play. I just play with so many mods on Hopoo versions that it wipes away most of the issues. You think I’m not being fair but I’ve been much more than fair, I have over 100 videos mentioning how bad some of hopoos decisions were and only 3 mentioning gearbox’s new mistakes. Just so happens gearbox didn’t have a lot of wins this time around so there’s more to talk about
@@RacesVideos yeah that’s fair and i do remember the vid you made about the positives. i probably was going a bit overboard because it wasn’t just you that i was seeing being negative and because of the way the video was edited the negativity was a bit overwhelming. i’m sure you know a lot more about the game than i do and your perspective is definitely different because this game is far more important to you than it is to me. i was just getting worried because i’ve seen many gaming communities become toxic because of similar things and i was afraid of it happening to this game. i apologize for taking out some of my frustrations on you.
I appreciate that, but you have to consider we're disappointed because we love the game. I can't speak for everyone else, but it really actually kinda hurt to see this update and dlc happen. Risk of rain was never perfect, I've always said the opposite, but it was the best. I just want to see it get back there and I'm doing everything in my power to actually try to get that to happen, more than other creators and definitely more than everyone here in the comments calling me uselessly negative lol. I'm sorry that that isn't very visible to you guys, but I can't really betray gearbox's trust either and talk about things. Just know I am trying and I do care. Me pointing out the mistakes of the dlc and update is just that, pointing them out, and it feels like theres a lot because there is. But if I'm pointing out something it's because I want to see it fixed. If I didn't point out anything and walked away from the game then I wouldn't be helping and I wouldn't care and who knows if the game would get better. Some part of you just has to trust that I have more of my life tied to this game than others and I want to see it do well actually, -- but to me -- lying or covering up the truth doesn't solve that, I need honesty to fix it, even if that comes off as negative to some people. *Sorry if I've come off as especially bitter in the comments, its been a long two weeks of this, people taking their frustrations with the entire community and dlc out on me*
@@RacesVideos we appreciate all the work you do man. i wasn’t reading other comments so i didn’t know about all the other people saying stuff like this. i knew you cared about the game, and i know the things you’ve been doing to help, but just as you tell me that if all the creators are saying negative things about the game then something must be wrong, if people are having a negative response to that then that is also worth something. obviously we shouldn’t be rude to each other so i’m not talking about people like that, but if people are criticizing something then just because you are doing good behind the scenes doesn’t mean that you are now immune to criticism. i personally just wanna see you enjoy the game because that’s what we all enjoy watching, and no i’m not saying you have to enjoy the dlc. that passion that you have is a good thing but it’s easy to tell when you’re forcing it so downpatching was probably the best idea. again i apologize that my first comment was like that, i was too emotional at the time.
I feel like you exaggarate the issues of this update too much. You say there are a lot, but the main ones were already fixed, and you don't give ANY specific examples of some things that you make out to be such a huge deal. Even if you gave one example apart from the elite enemies and bad items I would understand, but right now the game is completely playable and I don't see any reason to downpatch. The maps and general content is so good, I can't imagine the game without it anymore.
whilst I think the maps and other content is good one of the reasons I want to downpatch is that the new items saturate the item pool without really offering alternatives to some of the roles the old items had, meaning the game feels really rough until you can pick up some key base game/sotv items which were made rarer. still some of the items are great and mechanics like growth makes old items have a much better life so when the bugs get fully resolved I'll update to the latest branch again
Hey listen I'm glad you like the game, but I actually literally point out plenty of bugs during this video lol, actually live footage lol. I'll take a few off the top of my head from the 150 bug list I have and share though. Pizza broken audio Vagrant orbs broken No spawn sound on enemies randomly Ai pathfinding issues Hit registration issues on both players and enemies, especially on tracking attacks Kin and delusion artifacts broken Noxious thorn doesn't work, code missing to stack other debuffs Unstable Transmitter makes you take lethal fall damage when jumping All projectiles lag/buffer Halcyonites still damage you after death, scaling broken Captain deletes his own diablo Stages don't always spawn enemies Pieces of the moon are broken/missing Falling through floor when using abilities sometimes War bonds doesn't work always Scrapping more than one prayer bead can give you nothing Scorched wurms just hit themselves instead of throwing projectiles, sometimes invisible Enemies still walking and falling through walls There's a million little issues that just contribute to me not having fun, and I think it's reasonable that I don't have fun. This is not even covering the blatant design issues that I have a problem with either. Having a 'final boss stage 4' also with bad boss design, chefs abilities feeling awful with .5 proc and cancelling each other in weird sequences, false son's abilities having awful animations and feeling, seeker's meditate making you choose between extra stats or a revive and being unfun, the new elites being poor design, the item system creating bloat and taking away actual real synergies. They added no actual synergy benefit to any existing specific damage synergy in the game (crit, missiles, fire, etc) making every single one rarer. They made items where you have to take damage on purpose and added no healing so its rarer and harder to use the new items. I don't like the design and again that's reasonable for me not to. I think it's actually perfectly fine to ignore all the issues with the DLC because you're craving newer content but please don't tell other people they're overreacting for not doing the same.
Putting aside the fact that you didn't watch the video, there's no way you have any more than 20 hours in this game. The game balance is fucked. Captain, Acrid, and REX(on eclipse), I used to consider challenge characters, but now they're just bad because of the shift in the item pool. Crit, proc, and attack speed are all marginally harder to come by in lieu of "take damage", or niche requirements for negligible buffs. Now, Delicate Watch and Plasma Shrimp are anti-synergies with four new items introduced, which also happen to be DPS items. Then there's the gilded and twisted elites that are so awfully designed that even if gearbox intended on introducing a defense meta, would harm it. Having elites that retaliate on hit in a game full of aoe items, AI you can't guide, chain items, automatic retaliation items and lingering hurt boxes, is moronic. There's also no arguing that knockback fin, and warbonds are objectively awful items. Seeker's primary, and Lost Son's secondary have awful projectile speed, seekers whole kit is kinda bad, needing more time, focus and input, to match void fiend's healing, while also having worse damage and attack speed. Chef's knives have a low fire rate, manual recall , and a 0.5 proc coefficient. Not to mention any exploits that make lost son more fun to play are removed as fast as possible. The lost son fight itself isn't great either. The only scary move in its kit is that it disables your kit, making it harder to be properly prepped for lost son than mythrix and voidling, which I think would be less of a problem if you didn't have a whole stage less of loot to work with. Tldr: even if all the bugs got fixed, and it ran and played flawlessly, it's fundamentally a worse roguelike than pre-patch
I have been having a lot more fun with the DLC disabled. The director is still really broken. But at least I have a higher chance at speed items. I do miss the stages though.
