Weed Barrier Fabric | When and Where You Should Use It (Landscape Fabric)

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Learn all about landscape fabric (weed control fabric) and discover when it is beneficial to use and when it is detrimental to your soil and plants. #weedcontrol #landscapefabric
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@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

What's That Plant? SUBMIT ANSWER by clicking the link below: airtable.com/shrjAMu607LZNAg1M

@breathnstop Год назад

Should have millions of views. Thank you for your knowledge. Appreciate it.

@RumbleRooster7 Год назад

I agree 100%. I thought I was doing a great thing to install fabric in my landscape beds. Although water can go through the fabric, it beads up and runs off long before it permeates. I have also seen that it is quickly exposed by rain, wind, squirrels, deer etc. This is true even more so on any terrain with a slope. Immediately after installing a pretty thick layer of mulch, I had exposed pieces that need to constantly be touched up. Thanks for the info. You verified what I suspected, that it was bad idea to install fabric in landscape beds. I have also had a fungus problem in those beds.

@jillpooley6844 2 года назад

Thanks. I have always suspected that it is bad for soil. Now you have convinced me of this.

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Your suspicion was well founded! Glad we could help solidify it 😊💚

@TamsMarie 2 года назад

John: This was great information about a product I knew so little about. Very helpful.

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Glad to hear you found it so helpful and enlightening! Thanks for the comment 💚😀

@ricoo25 2 года назад

Thanks John for the info here. We moved into a house a few years ago and the landscaping was jaw dropping beautiful for the first couple of years. It started declining and I found it difficult to enrich the soil with the fabric in place. Maybe it was the fabric itself hindering the soil and I did not think of that. We have lost a lot of attractive and expensive plants over the last year. The only plants that really had no issues were the LANTANAS and I think that was your mystery plant in this video!

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

The fabric does make it difficult to enrich the soil. Have you been able to remove all the fabric so you can start enriching your soil? Sorry for your loss 😞 Correct!! The mystery plant was a white lantana 😀

@alexgoumilevski5864 2 года назад

Fantastic video, this is great to know before putting down weed fabric!

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Thank you Alex! We are happy to be of service! -J&B's

@iwannachopbladeslawncare Год назад

I've made lots of money because of this guy. The knowledge I give customers that "want it all" but on a mow blow budget really see what I'm talking about. One mentioned they watched your video then asked me to show them something and I showed them a customer's beds I did... opened up new doors. I love your stuff sir! I'm going to check out your bio products now actually I need something that works great and every video shows!

@JohnandBobs Год назад

We thank you sincerely for your kind comment, bringing life into your soil really does change EVERYTHING.. and Liquid biotiller is definitely a game changer!

@AlbieVlogging 2 года назад

We have clay soil, was contemplating on weed fabric but already bought it. Now, I've made my mind against it. Thanks so much!

@grannybee573 2 года назад

Thank you so much for this video. It came at the perfect time. We had a beautiful garden bed put in about three years ago. It’s a long bed which is next to our neighbor’s property. The landscaper put in a good quality weed barrier with mulch on top. However, this did not block weeds coming through and under the fabric. As the mulch began decomposing, we began to get even more weeds on top of the mulch. It makes weeding extremely difficult. I would never again opt for weed barrier in a garden with plants. I am actually in the process of getting some help to remove it and put in a new layer of mulch. Thank you for your straightforward information.

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

You are most welcome! 💚Sorry we didn't get this video out before your landscaper spent all that time putting in the landscape fabric. Definitely something that is harder to take out than it is to put in - smart choice to opt out of using it in the future! Once removed, healthy/lively soil and a 1-2" layer of mulch are the best (and organic) ways to control weeds.

@infiniteadam7352 2 года назад

Same experience here... definitely not worth it...unless using it to prepare a bed by leaving it on for a few weeks then removing it after everything has germinated and died.

@pleaseletitgo1818 Год назад

There’s an audience for everything, I’ve seen great results using weed barriers if done correctly.

@aligee6277 2 года назад

Excellent Excellent Excellent

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Thank you so much 😀

@kt9495 2 года назад

This was really helpful, thank you. I knew I didn’t want to use it anywhere around plants, and landscapers seem to not agree on this. I have an area 51’x6’ on a side yard that I’d like to do a gravel walkway only and I think it might be wise to use it there. 🌿✌🏼

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

You're welcome! Using it with a gravel walkway is ideal 👌🏻👌🏻 You should check out our other video about making a gravel pathway: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5yyHFbIVaoU.html

@kt9495 2 года назад

@@JohnandBobs Will do! Stay awesome 😊

@dougb8207 2 года назад

I agree! This video is very helpful, as some landscapers, as you said, don't seem to know better.

@richardbotha777 9 месяцев назад

Thank you. Your videos are very informative. Should I use a piece of landscape fabric on the bottom of my large outdoor planters to avoid the soil from escaping through the drainage hole? Thanks in advance.

@JohnandBobs 9 месяцев назад

That is a good use for landscape fabric, and thank you for the support!

@opglawncare9801 2 года назад

John, that makes a lot of sense, I, was thinks about putting mulch around my arborvitae trees I have planted 25 of them in my backyard for a future screen for privacy, there all about 3 - 4 feet tall and was waiting to mulch them at the fall season wanted to get water to the roots and establish before winter what will be best using a weed barrier fabric or a good barrier of mulch?

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

I recommend 2-3 cups of our "Blend" over the root zone of each Arborvitae topped by a 1-2" thick layer of a wood based mulch or compost - no weed fabric at all.

@opglawncare9801 2 года назад

@@JohnandBobs Thanks placing my order tomorrow!

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

@@opglawncare9801 Awesome! Use the code FALL21 at checkout to get 10% off for our Fall Sale 😃

@marytaelliott 11 месяцев назад

i love your dog!!!

@JohnandBobs 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! He’s very lovable ☺️🌱

@sambormann2369 3 месяца назад

We have landscape fabric on one half of our front garden. The side that has it gets very few weeds and grass - and the plants and trees seem to grow well and its been down for over 20 years. The side that doesnt have it gets weeds and grass all the time and even ivy

@JohnandBobs 3 месяца назад

That's interesting! Your weed barrier success has not been my experience, but I'm not one to argue with success. Thanks for sharing.

@bobwallace6812 Год назад

I have a small drainage ditch that only a little water runs thru. Most of any water is absorbed before it gets to this area. I was planning to use a barrier with a 30 year life guarantee. I am using 4” and 6” stones with some 2” pond stones poured in to give it an authentic look. Will this work for me?. Thank you very much for your most informative video.

@JohnandBobs Год назад

The weed fabric as you describe will work well and is appropriate. -John

@maryk1668 10 месяцев назад

Would never use it around plants!!! Voice of experience 😊

@Mani-Real-estate 2 года назад

Thanks John We have different soil in Winnipeg (Manitoba, Canada) we have very deep rooted weeds which are very aggressive, here all my neighbors have to use landscape fabric(even we don’t want it) Do you recommend to use more mulch? Or any other alternative

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Mani, You are correct, Winnipeg has mostly very deep soil, which can facilitate deeply rooted weeds. We've done a few videos that explain the weed controlling possibilities of building fungally dominated soil with complex microbial life. It's amazing but true that truly healthy soil has fewer weed pressures than lifeless or bacterially dominated soil. In addition to healthy soil, diligence and mulch are effective components of an organic weed abatement strategy. Weed fabric creates lots of problems in terms of building really healthy soil as per our video. Thank you for the comment, we appreciate your interest! - J&B's

@mikewashmuth8812 Год назад

I've been wondering about the impact of weed barrier on the soil food web and your video confirmed my suspicions. We have bindweed on our property so I'm concerned it'll come thru mulch without weed barrier.

@JohnandBobs Год назад

I'm not a fan of weed fabric or weed barrier. The only application where it's use might be appropriate is areas without plants such as decomposed granite areas or gravel beds,etc. Check out our video on this very topic - I think you'll enjoy it. -John

@JohnandBobs Год назад

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@erayapana 8 месяцев назад

Hello, could you please ID the plant at 7:15? And thanks for your informative videos. Wish you were based in Long Beach, CA so I could hire you! Tho I’m getting closer to DIYing everything…

@JohnandBobs 8 месяцев назад

The plant at 7:15 is Grevillea noelli. Thanks for your comment, we love making these videos for you all!

@adnan75300 2 года назад

I would love to know. If I do not have any plans growing any grass or improving soil is it better to lay down WeedBlock? We have only four trees in our back yard we intend to keep. I plan to get rid of all grass and go xeroscape all the way. What are your thoughts?

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Yes, in your situation you can benefit from the weed fabric, but omit it completely from the root zones of your trees (all the way to edges of the tree canopy). Use our Blend topically in your tree root zones and mulch about 1-2" thick over the Blend.

@JGD185 Год назад

I was thinking of using landscape fabric but not sure after watching this video. I wanted to use it in a plant bed in front of my house because I have a weed problem. What do you recommend instead for dealing with weeds?

@JohnandBobs Год назад

Regular mulching about 2" thick is a great weed deterrent. Disciplined and regular weed patrol in conjunction with mulching provides about 3/4 of the most effective non-chemical weed control mechanisms. Surprisingly, the other quarter is soil health - soil with abundant complex soil life has much fewer weed pressures than low life or simple bacteria dominated soil. If you aren't opposed to using weed control chemicals, the most impactful and least damaging to soil are properly timed pre-emergent herbicides like granular Dimension. They aren't good for soil so you should try to limit their use, but they are very effective at killing weed seeds just before or just as they are germinating. My opinion of weed barrier fabric is it should only be used in non-plant areas. Hope this helps! -John

@infiniteadam7352 2 года назад

I totally agree, I don't see a advantage at all. Weeds will grow in the mulch anyways and you end up pulling the fabric up when you try to pull the weeds, its so annoying to me when customers use it...

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Exactly! It ends up causing many more problems in the long run...

@tommyaaron4256 2 года назад

How do you keep weeds out of plant beds??live in Florida we get a lot of rainfall

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Surprisingly, healthy/lively soil plays an important role in weed control along with a 1-2" layer of mulch. Check out our previous video on weed control here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tg32nWbqOGk.html If weeds are chronic and overwhelming a granular pre-emergent like Dimension can be used, but we prefer to first attempt control without pre-emergent herbicides.

@lousifei 27 дней назад

Thanks so much for the very clear and instructive video. Although I realize that landscaping, gardening and farming are different things, I've pretty much deduced from this video that attempting to use weed barrier fabric in our tea fields would not be a good idea. In our particular area of Taiwan, high temperatures and humidity along with extended seasonal rainfall (usually then followed by summer drought), make battling weeds a constant problem. For health and safety reasons, herbicides are not an option. Also, tea is particular in that many factors may affect the quality and flavor of its finished product. The combined area of our two small fields is only 3/4 acre, relatively small as tea fields go, but more than enough for one "upper middle-aged" couple to maintain. Presently, we do our weeding with either weed eaters or hoes. Again, I realize you are a landscaper and not a farmer, but do you have any advice on weed management for our situation?

@JohnandBobs 23 дня назад

We are glad you found the video helpful! You could try to find an organic herbicide. Our other recommendation for weed suppression is using mulch, but I'm not sure that would work in your situation. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Best of luck! :)

@lousifei 22 дня назад

@@JohnandBobs "Gracias por todo" as they're likely to say in the landscaping market there these days. I really do appreciate your kind response. You well exceeded expectations just in responding at all, especially for a two-year-old video. I will take your advice and re-investigate the herbicide option. I re-injured my back recently hauling around bags of fertilizer, and thus haven't been active in the fields lately. Right now, parts of my fields look like the Amazon, so I'm anxious to find a less labor-intensive approach than spending two full days battling with a "weed-eater" only to have it all come back 2 or 3 days later. Yeah, I considered mulch, but I'm afraid you're right -- it's not too practical for our situation. No worries. Life is good and I really do appreciate your kindness in taking the time to try to help me. Blessings to you and yours, and I hope things go smoothly for you.

@JohnandBobs 22 дня назад

@@lousifei happy to help! 💚😊 It sounds like you already do this, but using organic inputs to ensure you have an active soil food web can help decrease weeds some. Another thought is to try some kind of cover crop…have you ever looked into that?

@bluearcherx Год назад

what's a good rough cutout size? 2x the size of the mature foliage?

@JohnandBobs Год назад

To the outside edge of the canopy of the tree or shrub!

@MrVoice1 2 года назад

Can I use weed fabric for cabbage farm? I intend to cover 1000sqm of ground for cabbage planting

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

You can, but I think you're better off without it from many standpoints, as per our video.

@user-vf2kv2qi3s 16 дней назад

Would be helpful to discuss the difference between woven fabric and non-woven fabric.

@JohnandBobs 9 дней назад

Thanks for the suggestion!

@Itsme-jv4cd 2 года назад

On my, Chip is so cute! What kind of a dog is he?

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Thank you! 😀🐶 He was a rescue so we aren't sure what breed he is.

@ConfedVet 2 года назад

Instead of using weed fabric, could you use tarps, like the cheap ones at Harbor Freight?

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

As you know from our video, I don't recommend using weed fabric. Tarps would be worse because they would most likely be impermeable to water

@chipdouglas1079 3 месяца назад

We built a new home and the area we live in gets extremely windy at times. I believe if we were to use mulch that it would blow all over the place and disappear rather quickly. Therefore, I was leaning towards using landscape fabric underneath approximately 3” of decorative rock in conjunction with an abundance of trees and plants. Your comment about the weed fabric clogging up rather quickly has me concerned…particularly so being in a windy area. I would appreciate any advice you could give for my situation. Thanks

@JohnandBobs 3 месяца назад

I suggest you use the rock (no more than 2") without the weed barrier in all areas you have planting. Also there are some types of coarser wood based mulch that work good in windy areas because they knit together and stay put. These types of mulches can even withstand the blowers of gardeners who sometimes choose to blow leaves in mulched areas.

@chipdouglas1079 3 месяца назад

@@JohnandBobs Thank you for the suggestions. I can’t be certain, but I don’t believe the large supplier near me carries the coarse wood based mulch-I’ll have to look more into that. Do you have any opinion on mulch glue? In terms of using no more than 2” of rock without fabric, I have a couple of concerns and would appreciate your input: 1) much of the research I have done says that overtime, the rock will sink/disappear into the ground using such a shallow depth-in particular, without the fabric. 2) I worry about weed maintenance-not being able to penetrate the rock with tools and the shallower depth allowing weeds to penetrate more easily. I’m hoping to avoid using sprayed chemicals. I am open to using something like Preen once or twice a year. There is just some much conflicting advice out there and I feel like my head is spinning. Any further advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again

@JohnandBobs 2 месяца назад

I have never used mulch glue, but I have had success with using mulches that stay put. See what is available in your area. It might be helpful for you to get a sample of the rock you want to use and put down a 2" layer and a small 3" layer. 2" is a lot and I've never had trouble with it sinking in planting beds -- in a road being driven over that would be a problem. Weeds aren't non-existent with rock, but much less prevalent. You could used a vinegar based weed killer or citrus peel organic one like Avenger in order to avoid chemical weed killers. I'd start without using Preen or a pre-emergent and see if you even have a weed problem. Rock mulch is a pretty effective anti-weed treatment.

@michiganborn8303 Год назад

What about using it for a French Drain? I see some folks using it to wrap around the perforated pipe to keep the finer debris out of the French Drain where they're used I Where water tends to pond up in areas we're there's no out flow.

@JohnandBobs Год назад

That's a good use and there are quite a few good ways to use it. I'm just not a fan of using it around plants. -John

@michiganborn8303 Год назад

@@JohnandBobs Thanks. That helps

@mwcleaning Год назад

Landscape fabric is a no no for French drains! You need the actual fabric designed for water flow. I bought mine from the French Drain Man in Michigan.

@michiganborn8303 Год назад

@mwcleaning Unfortunately I don't live in Michigan anymore.

@JohnandBobs Год назад

@@mwcleaning This is a confusing area with lots of conflicting information. My experience is it is not accurate to say "landscape fabric is a no no for French drains". It is more accurate to say, "Not all landscape fabrics are appropriate for French drains". There are a number of different types of landscape fabric. For French drain use look for Geotextile Non-Woven fabric. -John

@pops1pops178 11 месяцев назад

How about if you put gravel do you need the weed barrier 😊

@JohnandBobs 11 месяцев назад

I don't use it under gravel, but it's use can be justified in that situation. - John

@melilu2845 2 года назад

Lantana, though I have never seen it with white flowers…

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

Correct! And lantana can come in many different colors 🌸🌼🌹🌻

@varun7376 2 года назад

If you don’t recommend using weed barrier fabric then how one can prevent weeds from growing up?

@eliasross4576 Год назад

Mulch?

@lokksable 5 дней назад

Have you ever used weed fabric to install artificial grass instead of a road base or DG

@JohnandBobs 5 дней назад

We actually just posted a video about using base rock & DG under artificial turf! I have never personally done it with weed fabric underneath. My guess would be that just weed fabric underneath would not be enough to keep weeds and other problematic things from happening in the future. Would probably be a shorter lifespan of the artificial turf....maybe you could use it in addition to the DG?

@LataushaTheAuthor 2 года назад

My bushes and flowers come up so beautiful then they die. I couldn’t figure it out for an entire year. Then I said okay it’s this fabric.

@alcambero 2 месяца назад

The ground cover is Myoporum...🤔

@user-vf2kv2qi3s 8 месяцев назад

Informative but no mention of whether it's all weed barrier's or woven vs. nonwoven.

@JohnandBobs 8 месяцев назад

Non-Woven is preferable to me because it's more permeable. All my reservations that I mention in the video apply, but if you are going to use it around any kind of planting, non-woven is better. - John

@philisbramlett6890 2 года назад

Sir , I am sl . disabled but , I cannot keep up ! My $ are not capable . I invested in a few good tools which include an EGO lawn mower and high grade hand tools . By God's Grace & Strength I can do it but the weeds take me down on a continum and I feel so broken down . I Just Want Someone To Tell Me How To Lay It Next To My Grass And At What Depth ( Dirt Level Or Above Ground Level ) Showing Close Up Video So I Can Mow Right Up On It Without Tearing It Out or Pulling Weeds On Yet Another Border Line . Do You Or Anyone Have This Type Of Instructions For Me ? I've tried natural , newspaper , plastics ( i pulled it up when i bought this home and i have had my regrets . I took out the miles of cinder rock beds i've never regretted OUCH ! WEEDS !OUCH ! ) PLEASE . I already have good quality with "some" natural fiber ground cover to get me on a different path. The perennials are in ×2 years ago and have mulch / wood chips . I'm clearing it and placing up next to the grass . Just tell me at what level please ? It's Already dug out ! Large stones are on the sides so now , I'm weeding 2 lanes ❗ If I could afford it I would . I have my hands . I have time . I have the gift of prayer to find an answer here . Do you have one ? Thank you sincerely 🌤

@JohnandBobs 2 года назад

I believe you're asking if you choose to use weed fabric, at what grade or level is it properly installed? You would install it right before your mulch, meaning you install all plants/amenities and establish your final finish grade. Then, apply the weed fabric and if preferred a mulch right over the fabric, although you also could omit the mulch and then the fabric would be completely visible and walkable.