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Btw most of those ships are for 1940 to like 1960 maybe a little later but today battleships are considered obsolete and aren't used most today are museums or scrap, they were assassinated by aircraft carriers 😆
@@sniper_ninja1324 the Iowas were in service in the 1990s, upgraded of course to carry Tomahawks and CIWS but they still retained their main caliber guns and some of their original dual purpose 127 mm guns.
The Iowa class 16 inch turrets are three-gun turrets, not triple. A triple turret raises and lowers all three guns at the same time. A three-gun turret can raise and lower each of the guns separately.
According to an old 16" gun training video, those guns were a "Three gun turret" not a "Triple gun turret" A "Three gun turret" means that each gun can be adjusted for elevation independently of the other two guns. A "Triple gun turret" means that the guns are fixed together.
Great video, love the sailor for size comparison. Only thing I would like to see above that is adding more of the sailors to get a better idea of how many it took to man and operate the turret
For anyone wondering: MONTANA The five Montana-class ships (later three) were supposed to also carry the THREE-GUN 16"/50 Mk7 turret that the Iowas carried. None of the Montana-class were launched or even built for that matter. VERMONT The United States knew that it would be a matter of time before their weapons would be outclassed by something more modern during the first dreadnought era. In the 1920s, one extremely triggered-all-the-time Jacob Tillman created proposals for battleships that could beat out much everything that anyone else had to offer in return. One of these was Vermont, who was supposed to have FIVE 18"/48cal triple turret guns. Congress disposed of these plans, probably because the Panama Canal was gonna break open if one of these ships tried to pass through it. GEORGIA and OHIO These two were to also get the 18"/48cal guns, but in two-gun turrets instead. Neither of them were built. Georgia was an Iowa-class proposal that was rejected in favor of using the 16"/50cals instead. Ohio was to be a proposal for "after the Montana". Of course, Montana was never built, so naturally no plans for the Ohio were ever made.
How about an episode on IJN main battery guns? That would include the famous 460mm, and IJN destroyers have many models of 127mm and the dual purpose 100mm. That would also be very impressive to watch. It would also be interesting to list out AA weaponry in WWII. They also fought and saw many actions in WWII.
Helps you appreciate the scale of these guns as it shows a sailor for comparison. The choice of music adds to the majesty. Just that certain something of the old style gunships that modern vessels lack. What music anyway?
@@wheels-n-tires1846 best you can get is in the mod station, and it will change all gun calibers, even the ones that are read in mm, like the 40mm Bofers
This is simply fantastic World of Warships team! This puts things into perspective and per portion relative to the shear magnitude of these gigantic ships designed for one purpose………. War. Although terrible it’s amazing at the same time! Well done and thank you!
I really like the idea of a ship that is simultaneously huge and small, is both the fastest and slowest ship of its faction, and that uses both pitifully small and comically large guns in the same gun mounts.
having been on the USS BB63 Missouri myself the little sailor next to the guns is no real comparison. standing in front of one of the 16 inch turrets yourself is almost frightening
"Triple gun" most US battleships were able to raise their guns individually, making them 3 gun instead of "triple" or "twin/double," as the guns are acting individually and not as one. I don't know about cruisers and DDs, but I can say that about the battleship main battery. A good example of this: take an Iowa Class Battleship, their main battery has 3 gun turrets because the guns can go up and down independently, meanwhile the secondary/multipurpose 5" battery are double/twin mounts because when you elevate one gun, the other goes too.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
Three of Arizona's four 14' guns along with two of the turret housings were removed from the wreck during salvage operations in 1942. The housing and guns for Turret 1 remain on the wreck, while just the housing unit for Turret 2 remains on the barbette. Some of her 14' guns were incorporated into two island defenses on Oahu, in case of a possible Japanese invasion. Some of Arizona's barrels were later removed from the island defenses and installed on the USS Nevada and were used to fire on the Japanese in 1945. One of her barrels is now in Phoenix, AZ.
Twin mounts could not separate elevations. They were locked together. Dual mounts could be elevated independently. Twin and dual are two different sorts of mount and triple and 3-gun are the same.
I’ve been on the U.S. Kidd before when I was stationed in baton rouge Louisiana. THAT had huge cannons. I’m in Hawaii now and I can’t even imagine the size of the Missouri with it being an Iowa class 😳
Great video, i love everything about it, though at the end, i half thought all the gun would raise their barrels and fire either all at once or go in order
Cool. Except some of the "twin" and "triple" turrets are actually "two-gun" and "three-gun" turrets. Meaning the rifles aren't linked in elevation, the tubes can be raised or lowered independently of each other. E.g. for sequential fire.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Like to copy/paste useless responses, do ya? The OP is right. The creator is mistaken, regardless that we know what they mean.
Multiple mistakes made in this video. 1) there is a difference between a mount and a turret. A mount is bolted to the deck while a turret is held in place via gravity. 2) there is a difference between triple and three gun. Twin, triple, quad, etc. means that if u move one gun, the others move alongside with it. Whereas 2, 3, 4, etc. gun turret/mount means each INDIVIDUAL gun can be raised, lowered, and fired individually, all together, or in any combination of the total
This post shows several misconceptions, albeit commonly-held ones. First, turrets need not be held in place only by gravity - most later "turrets" were, but if you want to get hyper-technical, they are gun houses, not "turrets", mounted on barbettes. If you look at the original naval turret, on USS Monitor, it had a central spindle, which was a definite weak point. Second, mounts are not always bolted on to decks. Turrets have mountings too, and even by your definition, they clearly can't be bolted to a (not "the") deck. (What of mounts ON turrets?!) Thirdly, the distinction you draw between a triple and a three-gun turret is a distinction only drawn by certain American authors, and is used nowhere else; where turrets are classified as having individually sleeved mountings or not.
The person standing next to the gun could be changed to indicate how many men it takes to man each gun/turret next to the gun itself, more useful than just 1 person next to each gun…
True to the extend, and as a big fan of Yamato, I agree likewise. Perhaps we'll have another video on battleship's main guns from all factions someday, but lest we forget, this video is about the Americans.
The funniest content from the most serious profiles. Like here. Accurate representations of battles and exact replicas of ships. Hilarious. A little further on game, you will find Godzilla and Kink Kong fighting aliens and a company of people sleeping and waking up looking for ways to get from you euro. Reliability Zero.
People that watch these videos need to understand that the makers are only including real ships. You won’t see your favorite paper ships in these videos.
Well as most of the Russian ships in the game we're never built, I imagine they'd have a hard time with that. IJN, RN, KM etc would be good to see though!
@@xtod9892 They did build the guns tho. Maybe instead of turret they could do gun comparision instead. Or well they could stick with cruisers and destroyer turrets at worst
I would not call most of them twins or triplets. Twin and triplet mean that all barrels are connected to each other and elevate at the same time. If barrels can elevate in a single mode, those turrets called two gun turrets or three gun turrets.
I don't know how many, but quite a few of them did have all the barrels connected like that. It was a feature they used to keep the turrets narrow enough to fit on the older hulls.
IIRC the Pensacola & Portland class 203mm guns are "triple turrets" and were not individually sleeved - they had to be elevated at the same time. It wasn't until the New Orleans class that the 203mm became "3 gun turrets" which can elevate independently.
Aren't the Alaska's, North Carolina's, and Iowa's turrets Three Gun turrets and not Triple since they can be elevated and depressed independently? (Note: not sure about any of the other cruiser's turrets)
Well they can but not in-game. Also WG is Russian so it probably doesn't matter to them much if they stray off of naming once or twice. And it's Wargaming, I mean look at "The whole Russian Line of ships"
Once again the art department comes through. Why are they the only ones carrying WG? One thing to critic, the ship names would be better under the gun information. You don't always see the ships names on the left side for the DD's
Yeah, I wonder what is the reason of why did some European navies (i.e German, Italian, French, rarely UK) choose 15 inch over 16 inch, with higher caliber guns you got higher penetration and range right? (generally). I only see odd number calibers (i.e 11, 13 and 15 inchers) on EU ships.
I would guess because land based guns tend to use metric more often than imperial units? For example 120mm guns instead of 122 mm guns, 75mm instead of 3 inch. Furthermore land based vehicles are often based on metric dimensions, while ships tend to use imperial units more. But I`m not an expert on this subject ;)
Well, Mogami did use 155 mm guns, but that's it. IJN tend to use metric (i.e 100, 140 mm, 155 mm, , 410 mm, 460 mm) caliber on their guns instead of converted imperial (102, 127, 152, 406, 457 mm) afterall
