Welcome to Wrexham Will Make You LOVE Soccer! 

We are welsh not English ! 🙄

Point No.2 is explained in great detail in Ep 7 - The Wide World of Wales.

@@Red_Snappa oh ya, great episode! John Green did like a mini crash course explaing it, and being a fan of his and knowing his history with the sport that was so cool. Then when I recorded all that info fell right out of my head.

Had South American friends that lived in Cardiff. Their parents would call regularly and ask how London was. In those moments they would feel Welsh, explaining it’s actually a different country who have their own language. Calling the Welsh English is a great way to insult.

MLS is the pro US soccer league

It's a real shame that they weren't cleared to globally stream, but I'm definitely with you on this. I didn't expect to become a fan of them, and although I'm kinda wrestling with feeling like a traitor to Wimbledon, I still bought a scarf lol

Thanks for your support! I’m from Wrexham and it has been very odd watching our town in high definition on tv with Rob and Ryan 😅 It’s been great to see our town and football club through the eyes of people who’ve never been here - makes me realise how lucky we are to have such history in such a beautiful setting. I love that Americans seem to be appreciating football a lot lately - I think it won’t be long before you can stream the games. ❤ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

My mistake, thanks for the correction on this!

@@BaileyOrdiway just to add, the reason a Welsh team is in the English football system is that Wales does not have a professional league. So the teams of the largest Welsh towns and cities (Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham) all play in the English leagues. I guess a bit like Toronto being in the MLS.

@@Brownwhale7 Wrong. The Welsh clubs were invited to play in the English leagues in the 1800's because Welsh football clubs were getting far higher attendances at their matches than the English clubs. We do have a league in this country where the clubs qualify for European competition. It's called the Cymru Premier.

@@goattm2 I stand corrected, diolch.

@@goattm2 Wrong again...... the top Welsh clubs which were competing in the Southern league many many decades ago were invited to join the Football League in the early 1900s when there was a supremacy battle for top dog between the Football league and Southern League as to which was the top football league in England, Cardiff, Swansea, Merthyr, Aberdare and Newport in South Wales all joined up by invitation as well as Wrexham in North Wales at some point, with a number of now famous English teams who are also now competing in the Football league as opposed to formerly playing along with the Welsh clubs in the Southern League which lost the battle for supremacy of the two leagues.... nothing to do with crowds numbers at all.

It’s not, it’s like calling a person from Brabant a Hollander

Brabant and Holland don't have separate national teams, Wales and England do. As far as we are concerned, the English are our oldest, and only, enemy. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 So it's like Netherlands and Germany.

​@@MabDarogan2 🤣 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 you love us really taff

@@tobytaylor2154 like genital herpes

@@MabDarogan2 oh dear, full of hate, that's why you need ruling and hence all the castles 🤣

Good theory! But the reason UK Football leagues are named what they are is the result of a mess. In the olden days, all football was organised by the Football Association (FA). There was the 1st Division, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th. Logical. Then the teams in the 1st Division weren't happy with how much money they were earning. They thought the FA (a group of old men in blazers) were holding them back. So they formed the Premier League. Then the "new" 1st Division, formerly the 2nd Division, did the same and formed the Championship. So the former 3rd Division was then the 1st Division of the FA. The result is what we have now.

I just looked it up after I read your comment cause it seems interesting... So I learned that they broke away and created the Premier League to sell TV and broadcast rights and nowadays they have an audience of 4.7 BILLION people. Largest watched sports broadcasts in the world. Thats a wild number. Thanks for the comment :)

@@BaileyOrdiway You're welcome. 👍

In fairness to the documentary… it’s does explain the difference between us ‘Welsh’ Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿…‘English’ England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.. I mean it ain’t rocket science!🙄🙄🙄

They play with in the EFL the English Football League so keep your xenophobia under control. Without England there would be no WAFC

@@BVking509 nope incorrect. There is the ‘Welsh premier league’ also! For many years we could play in the Welsh cup and it’s a route for ‘Welsh’ teams to play in Europe on the back of winning this!

So Welsh that they don’t even play in the cynghrair pel droed cymru😂😂😂

Nothing to do with the English, eh? Yeah, how strange that anyone should associate a club that's played in the English football league for over a hundred years with England.

I slip back and forth between the two a lot, mainly cause if I said football instead of soccer where I'm from than people get confused, so it's more of a habit than anything. Glad you liked the video, though!

Both are acceptable. Especially since the term 'soccer' was invented in the UK to specify which type of football was being described. SOCCER, which was 'Association Football' to specify from the other popular football games in England which were Rugby and Shrovetide. Rugby became the more popular in the US, Canada and other countries. In the US and Canada, it evolved into what they call football. Canada has its own football game that is extremely similar to the US version. Thus, in countries where other forms of football are more popular than Association Football, soccer is still used. Instead of being butthurt over a WORD, just be glad a person is getting into the game. Edit: One could argue that Aussie rules football is a sort of hybrid between rugby and shrovetide football. Shrovetide is the actual original football game played since the Middle Ages.

If you don't like the word soccer blame the Brits they came up with it. Oh btw the sport was called soccer for up to 70 years until the early 80s when football became the norm. We on the other hand have called our sport football for over 140 years since it was first played in colleges in the 1860s.

Yes you may call it soccer,but show respect it’s Football.

​@@brianeleighton dude Aussie rules is just Gaelic football on steroids.

Felt a bit pretentious, but accurate either way lol

Thank you! I almost didn't cause I thought it might be a bit much, but I'm glad I did.

Fair enough but these guys seem to mean well and if it does the city of Wrexham good then 👍, Salford uk

AFC Wimbeldon has an amazing and complicated history. A club screwed over by ownership and revived by fans. You should read up on them, I think anybody would find it hard not to like them.

Exactly. Which is why when Wimbeldon FC was moved and reformed as the MK Dons, they're not The Dons. AFC Wimbeldon are The Dons.

I've heard it used to describe a company once in a meeting, but all I could think was that in applied to sports teams perfectly. I'm glad you liked it!

I got that reference from wandavision

Been grinding at it a few years now, I'll get there! Thanks for the support :)

I still don't really get why

@@wsp2000 'Soccer' was used as an insult by the English Rugby Union crowd. They denigrated the working class and were against professional (paid) players. Rugby Union was an amateur sport until the 1980's, primarily because the players were from privileged backgrounds and had independent, often inherited incomes so they didn't need to play for money. 'Soccer' is a class war thing.

and obviously every american is supposed to know this…

@@trym7549 Of course not. Americans have earned their reputation for being ignorant about other countries and cultures through sheer, ceaseless and dedicated hard work. My bad for forgetting what we all know and forgive.

@@lewilewis3944 i’m not saying they are not ignorent about the rest of the world, I have never understood the anger when americans call it soccer 🤷‍♂️ it’s what they have been brought up calling it since they got their own sport called football. For most europeans the reason they dont call it soccer is not because we know the history behind the word, it is because we are brought up calling it football

Thanks! I'm happy to see people enjoying it just as much as I am.

Oh damn, ya, and Paul Mulin is fantastic. It was fun rooting for them last season, but with them getting promoted to the same league as Wimbeldon I can't anymore lol

@Bailey Ordiway Yep Paul was absolutely brilliant for us in League Two a couple of years ago then took the big money move to Wrexham. I was disappointed to see Wimbledon relegated last season, one of my favourite Cambridge United away days and we 29n it with a brilliant goal from Adam May. Hopefully you'll come back up soon and beat MK Dons along the way

It's not even the UK football league. As you say, each country has its own leagues and the same is true for the countries of the UK. There are English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish leagues in the UK, each run by their different national Football Association (governing body). However, just because each nation has its own leagues, this does not mean all the teams competing in those leagues are from that country. There are various reasons, usually historical, why some clubs play in the league of a different country. Wrecsam (Welsh spelling), Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Merthyr are the current Welsh teams playing in English leagues. TNS are a hybrid English/Welsh team following a merger of two teams, who compete in the Welsh league but are based in England. The English club that was part of the merger, historically competed in the Welsh Cup. They are also based in an English border town that was historically Welsh and there are many Welsh speaking families that live in the area. One English club currently plays in the Scottish league. Berwick Rangers, who are based in an English border town. Berwick is similar to Oswestry, given their history as a border town and the town historically changing hands between each country. There are teams in Northern Ireland that play in the Republic of Ireland league like Derry City FC. This happens in other countries. Such as Canadian clubs like Toronto FC Montreal and Vancouver playing in the US league of MLS, despite Canada having her own league. There are many examples of this across Europe and the world. Each national league, even if they have foreign teams, will all have a majority of teams from their own country. Many clubs have historically been apart of the leagues of other countries because of historical reasons. Especially older clubs that predate many of the national leagues. But in recent decades many of these clubs have moved to the leagues of their own country.

Well they're in League 2 now, the first league that's actually considered professional. My team was relegated last season so plays in that league too.

Your Welsh,l ? Sorry too hear that 😢

@@pinkfloydmayweather861 stay on the dark side of the moon la 🙄

Best part of the moon la

@@pinkfloydmayweather861 shine on you crazy diamond

I think anybody that is a Wimbeldon supporter can appreciate the story of Wrexham and root for their success. Wimbeldon had their club stolen from them and had to rebuild from the ground up as a community, and fought their way back up. Wrexham seems to have an amazing community behind the club and I want them to do well. The only club I truly hate is the MK Dons. Fuck them.

@@BaileyOrdiway It's a shame you didn't say "I respect them and I appreciate their story", but instead "I am also now a Wrexham supporter". There's a problematic culture of glory-hunting in football, particularly among US fans unfortunately, and the Netflix documentary only perpetuates that further. You're much better off sticking with the Dons, if they're your first love.

Thanks!

What did you play? I played goalkeeper in grade school, which I'll admit is slightly less impressive.

@@BaileyOrdiway started as left back...then left wing nothing special

Much appreciated!

Honestly, yes lol. I never learned anything about it in school. So I'm gonna shift blame to the public education system.

@@BaileyOrdiway haha no worries I can imagine how it might be confusing. Thought that was a great line from ted lasso. Sums it up pretty well actually 😆 We are 1 country, but we're also 4 countries too :)

@Midnight Wolfee LOVE Ted Lasso! In the middle it rewatching it right now.

The United Kingdom consists of England,Scotland,Northern Ireland and Wales. Hope that helps 👍🏻

Thanks! I definitely like them quite a bit, but I won't lie, if they get promoted and play Wimbeldon next year, I'm backing the Dons lol

Very polished? He seems literally fucking clueless, idk how u can even say that

Just covered it in my most recent video actually :) check it out

I honestly just searched like "Wrexham badge" or "Wrexham logo" on Google lol. I'm not familiar enough with the club to have known it was the wrong year. Good catch though!

@@BaileyOrdiway A researcher found a reference in a newspaper from 1879 which referred to the Wrexham club being founded “15 years ago”, so the badge was amended to 1864. Meanwhile, the club had opened its “Centenary Club” in 1973, when it was thought it had been founded in 1873…

I'm aware of the history, I don't think you can really be a Dons fan without knowing it.

@@BaileyOrdiway oh good have u done a vlog i’d love to hear your thoughts

@@daffyduck1974 No I've never really talked about it, but I'd say my thoughts are the same as all Dons fans. Moving the club and expecting the fan base to remain was a betrayal, and naming them the Dons was downright stupid. But out of it came AFC Wimbeldon, who have many problems these days, but had a historic rise through the league and are completely fan owned. If any club other than Wrexham deserve a documentary it's them.

​@Bailey Ordiway And you'll be playing Franchise FC (sorry MK Dons) next season, we basically sent them down. Hope you beat them. I went to Wimbledon away with Cambridge last season, it was a shame to see them go down

I'll check it out tonight, thank you!

That's a great watch too

I just did a video on Mythic Quest! I watched it cause I wanted to check out more of his stuff after watching this show.

From what I know it was originally football but then incorporated parts of rugby and evolved from there but as it evolved it just kept the name.

There used the like that with a single governing body… - premier ship - English football league - National league Hop this clears it up

I'm not a fan of American football, I don't call it soccer cause of that. I only call it that cause it's what I was raised on. Our pro league is called "Major League Soccer". Calling it football here would just be super confusing in any conversation. It's like fries/chips trunk/boot. Just a cultural thing.

@@BaileyOrdiway No I understand 100% that was tongue-in-cheek. I always wondered who come up with the word 'soccer' as football, handball and basketball, for example are obvious they depict the sport but 'soccer' where did that com from?. BTW I love the NFL, watched it on Channel 4 from '83 onwards in the UK, top sport.

English invented it not welsh

@@pinkfloydmayweather861 I say 'WE' As we share the same passports and fight wars together m8. I can see how you mis-read it it though.

When it suits ey

I check scores WAY too much lol. It's not an easy thing to watch 4th tier football.

They play in different leagues, so I don't have to worry about them competing. If they're ever in the same league, Wrexham can go to hell. Lol

Elijah Wood and Charlie Hunnam is the craziest pairing I've ever heard if. I'll definitely check this out.

I wouldn't it's shit

Its more of a cultural thing than anything. In America its called soccer, even in our pro league. It would be confusing as hell to call it football. But I played for years in school, and have been closely following a team for 10 years, so I've always liked the sport.

Insulting the English tbf