Man do I ever wish I seen this video a month ago . I started cutting the wheel well out of my vw rabbit pickup and I’m still trying to figure it out. You made it make sense. Thank you sir
Great work, wish I had the tools available to do this myself. Although I’m sure it wouldn’t look as great as yours it would look better than it does with the rust
Yea, I was just going to tell him the same thing. Johnathan is right. Butt welding the entire patch panel and then grinding down the welds harms the structural integrity of the repair. It's going to be infinitely more durable if you: -Lap weld it - Grind the welds down a bit - Then hammer the welds down - After denting the welds, put filler over the welds so that way it will come out leveled with the rest of the panel when you prime and paint it
Thank you! One of the best videos out there... Would have loved to seen you do the inner fender repair as I ahve to do mine as well. getting ready to do this exact job on both sides of my silverado. Thank you again for the information as very helpful! NEW SUB right here 🙂
@@Johnnymidnight Any vids you can make on rust repair are helpful. I am also in the rust belt and do the work myself but like to see tricks other people use! Thanks again
I use aerosol undercoat where I can reach, and then I have an old undercoating gun that I fill with used motor oil and soak the inside of the panels so that it gets right into the pinch welds, and anywhere that I can’t reach with the undercoating
I always brush coat the inside with rust paint, like POR15 or similar, and also spray the inside of the panel with oil at the end so it seeps into the pinchwelds, and inner panels
Newbie Question. What was it you welded inside the panel. I assume in the inner wheel well area there was rust to. Did you use scrap metal for that or is there a specific replacement part to order? I am ordering a replacement bed arch for my 2012 silverado, and expect the inner wheel well will have some rust, and I should be replacing that inside lip also. Also, I see alot videos where the inner foam/stuffing is removed. Is it replaced with anything? I assume not because it was the main cause of the rust to begin with. Thank you for any response!
On this one the inner wheel house was rusted through unexpectedly, and I just patched it up with some sheet metal. Most often I replace the wheelhouses as well . I have another video, how to replace GM truck bedsides and wheelhouses, although the earlier body style, that will show you what’s involved 👍🏼👍🏼. The foam doesn’t need to be replaced with anything.
John, how much time does it take you to do the wheel arches per side? I need to do mine on my 2012 F150. Need to do the cab corners and rockers as well but I am going to start with the wheel arches. If that goes well I'll then tackle the rockers. Have to finish restoring my old studebaker first so I have some room in garage.
Thanks John, Based on that I think I'll tackle one side per weekend. Looking forward to the next video today! Also I am enjoying watching you do the metal work on the delivery sedan.
Great video! I’ve always wanted to see auto sheet metal being butt welded, but I wanted to ask: how do you attach the fender liner to the patch panel? Is there a way to keep it from happening again, would drains in the inner panel help or hurt?
The wheelhouses weld around the lip of the panels, I always treat the inside of the panels with oil, to coat the exposed welds, and always recommend to pull the taillights once a year and pressure wash all the accumulated dirt from inside the panels 👍🏼
Any tips for someone that’s never done something like this before? I’m not expecting something perfect for my first time but would like to get the rust gone.
Overlap the new panels 1/2” or so , I wouldn’t try butt matching if just starting out. Also check out my video on gluing panels with structural adhesive, maybe that would be helpful as well 👍🏼
does the foam crap comes out easy with pressure washer? I have a 13 years old truck, no signs of rust on the box, but concerned about it. what would be the other best way to remove the foam.
Hey man I read a comment your in Quesnel BC. I was born and raised there and all my family still live there. Unbelievable. I'm an autobody technician aswell and I'll be tackling the same job on my Silverado. Unbelievably small world. I wanted to ask you what you used to treat the inside of the repair with? I figured I might be able to remove the light and spray cavity wax
I always try to brush paint the backside with POR15 or similar, as well as coating the inside with oil (I use an old undercoating gun) so it seeps into the pinchweld as well
Fenders rust out and the rocker panels under the cab rust out. I’ve washed mine out behind there at every wash job with a power washer and it still rusted out. Cheap Chinese sourced sheet metal is my theory.
They really do, and all the manufacturers seem to be the same. I believe they’re engineered to rust out in about 8-10 years to keep people buying new trucks.
never understood doing all that work for a dam patch why not put a new bedsides on all that welding you d does nothing but burn off the e coat on the back side put on a new bedside then you know what you have
Usually comes down to budget , I do full bedsides all the time too, and it’s about the same labor wise, but roughly double the cost. (Depending on the truck, 800-2200 per bedside vs 200-400 per patch panel, that’s just parts)I always coat the inside of the panel to seal up all of the exposed welds.
@@Johnnymidnight i have had body shop for 52 years yea i know customers dont want to spend the extra money but i do not do any patch work anymore i try to tell them it could start rusting outside of the repair area in a few months and it will but they keep going back to the cost difference i say new bedsides or go somewhere else lost of couple of friends because a couple years later it started rusting 8 to 10 inches past the patch to me it is not worth it
I always give customers the option, if they’re just wanting another 5-6 years out of an old truck, patch panels are ok, but I always say if they’re keeping it forever to do full bedsides. The Dodge stuff is rarely worth patching though, because they rust through in several spots…..
@@Johnnymidnight this shit that we do is hard work how about the cost of materials its crazy i remember back when i started i had a pretty big shop had seven full time body men during the day and two full time painters that worked all night we were open 24 hour a day i remember buying body filler buy the case it was 24 dollars a case
