My #1 opener is definitely Roy Frederick. For me he was One of the Best and Finest players of fast bowling. His 169 against an Australian opening attack of Jeff Thompson and Dennis Lillie in their Prime is One of the Best and Finest displays of an opening Batsman unto this Day. This Fact and Statement is all about Sound Speech which cannot be Condemned. MVP. GOD is Great.
I have a video of that innings and the hundred Lloyd made on that tour both were phenomenal batsmen who doesn’t remember his six out of the ground at Lords in the 75 World Cup final before he stepped on his stumps. He didn’t worry about Lillee or Tommo
Aah, what a team! I might have made a couple of minor changes e.g. Fredericks for Haynes and maybe Lawrence Rowe for Chanderpaul ( such an elegant batsman!), but how can I argue with a team which includes the 3 most exciting batsmen I've ever seen (Lara, Richards, Greenidge) and the best bowler I've ever seen (Marshall). I know some people might argue for Weekes/Worrell/Walcott but I never saw them so can't really comment. Anyway, thanks for this interesting video
No problem at all! I enjoyed making it. Their back catalogue of players is so deep that I think their 2nd team would be competitive with all the other bests.
@@keithcampbell6806 Rowe was a great batsman, the only reason he wasn't consistent was because he had a bad allergy to grass that affected his eyes very badly
List is spot on! Expect I personally would put either Kahnai or Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul and Andy Roberts ahead of Ambrose. That bowling attack like the opening partnership doesn’t need to break up imo. P.s it seems like I’ve commented on a ton of your videos all on one day but I just found your channel a week ago and I’m absolutely loving your content. Keep up the great work, not many cricket channels out there preserving and promoting the traditions of test cricket!
Hi mate. Thanks so much for the nice comment. I love test cricket and I love chatting with people from all around the world about it! Cricket has the nicest fans.
How could you have left out George Headley who finished with a test average of 60 at a time when West Indies as a test playing region was in its embryonic stage?
Thanks mate. You almost can't go wrong with their strength in depth. Wes Hall was a great bowler but I just like the bounce that Big Bird could get out of any surface.
i don't think we can produce those anymore--i always believed that the greatest cricketers should have passed their knowledge to the young upcoming ones but that never happened
This Second team would be a world beater also. Roy Fredericks Conrad Hunt Ritchie Richardson Seymore Nurse Rohan Kanhai Clive Lloyd Derrick Murray Andy Roberts Charlie Griffith Wes Hall Courtney Walsh
Probably Haynes for George Headley he was noted as being the black Bradman he was WI first star batsman Rowe and Chanderpaul can battle depending on pitch conditions Roberts deserve mention also but it would be hard to drop any of those master bowlers
I made one on my other channel a long time ago. A Barbados All-time XI. As well as the other Islands. Needless to say, tjat Barbados team alone was dangerous in itself😅
To be honest the batters was spot on to me but the bowling was hard to pick but in a squad those you mentioned at the end could be in it for sure. You would pick your most inform bowlers
The question is how far back You went. You mentioned the great Sir Garfield Sobers, which tells me you began from the 70s. How about Sir Lawrence Rowe of Sabina and Alvin Kallicharan. These Fellas took centuries off the fearsome Lillie and Thompson in their prime.
This selection comprises possibly the greatest players of the last 40 years, plus Sobers. It would be interesting to think of a 2nd XI with players pushing for a place in the first team. Clive Lloyd, George Headley, Frank Worrell, Everton Weeks, Lance Gibbs, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte, Colin Croft, Wes Hall, Deryck Murray, Andy Roberts would surely be up there.
What a great WI team you have chosen and you could have selected a few more greatest WI teams😊 This team would have beaten any other. My thoughts would be Rohan Kanhai instead of Chanderpaul a straight batsman swap. But Kanhai had much more variety in his strokeplay and ability to change a match result from iffi to victory. If you have left out our greatest off spinner Lance Gibbs, Sobers would give the side the necessary variety in our bowling attack, with his ability to bowl medium fast swing as well as left arm spin. What a rahtid legacy they have left us. Has it been all for nought.🙄
Very very difficult task picking an all time greatest west indies 11. 7 players i wud definitely pick are greenidge, richards, lara, Lloyd, sobers, dujon and marshall.
Conrad hunte, rohan kanhai. The 3 Ws, Lawrence Rowe, alvin kallicharan, Wes Hall, charlie Griffith, sylvester Clarke, patrick patterson . Etc... we could easily pick two strong teams! Oh, Seymour Nurse too... headache....
I'm 66 years old and was fortunate to see all the players you mentioned in this great 11. But 50 FRENCH MEN can't be wrong so even though I never saw GEORGE Headley the stats alone in the comments justifies his selection.. Sir Viv Richards is the greatest batsman ever on Earth or Mars. I would leave out Ambrose for Walsh and Holding for Roberts . Dujon was the best wicket/ keeper batsman. Sobers was such an asset to the team because he can bowl spin, and medium pace so no need for Gibbs
Super Cat Clive Lloyd deserves not only a place in this team ahead of Chanderpaul but also to be skipper due to his accomplishments when in charge over a 10 year period. Also Andy Roberts was the Daddy of the fearsome quartet in the 70s and I think Big Bird Joel or Mikey Holding wouldn't complain too much if Andy was picked ahead of either of them despite both being great bowlers.
frank worrel as batesman and captain at any day. he united the team west indies and shown world that they will dominate in comming future by leading his bat with grace and style. can select walcott as keeper opening batesman
Great selection but what a group to pick from. I might have been inclined to go for Roy Fredericks instead of Desmond Haynes but then I am "of a certain age" and well remember the carnage Fredericks would cause every now and then, never more than one day in Perth.... I think Chanderpaul ahead of Clive Lloyd is justifiable and the great Rohan Kanhai could have come into the equation as well. How freaky is that, three Guyanese competing for the one position? For the bowlers, I would have the peerless Andy Roberts instead of either Joel Garner or Curtly Ambrose, both of whom are peerless as well. Can argue that Ambrose and Garner are both "tall man bowlers" and you only need one in a side but which one?? No Lance Gibbs is fair enough because Sobers does the spin.
Hi Mark. Thanks for the comment and your picks. I suppose Andy Roberts was the hardest for me to leave out and I completely take your point about the similarities between Ambrose and Garner. Many thought Roberts was actually the best of the bunch. It's almost a case that you can't go wrong though, both with the Windies and Australia.
@@frankjones8442 Justifiable means that strong arguments can be made for it. Inclusion of Clive Lloyd ahead of Chanderpaul is also justifiable. Chanderpaul may possibly have batted for his personal average and possibly not but I don't think so because if he was he would have retired sooner. I reckon he was chasing Brian Lara's most runs record. He figured out a way that worked for him and he wrung out every run that was there and in doing so he put a very high price on his wicket. This made him a good supporting player. It made it possible for big team scores if the guy at the other end was going for it. One person like that in a team is good (two is OK but you wouldn't want them to be batting together). Clive Lloyd was an exceptionally capable batter (and cricketer) and good as his figures are he was a better player than his figures suggest. I don't think he quite did full justice to his immense ability. Possibly he might have been a bit reckless at times, but perhaps if he had toned down a bit then he wouldn't have been the great player that he was.
@@frankjones8442 All the points you make are good. Lloyd always a magnificent fieldsman; in his younger days in the outfield then graduating to be a really good slipper to express pace bowling. He also achieved against the odds because he had to overcome a dodgy back and having to play with glasses (a right pain).
The point about Chanderpaul not sheltering the tail is very accurate. I always made that point to my friends. Taking a single off the first ball of the over batting with number 10 or 11. Sellfish to the max.
As far as I am concerned this guy have no idea about cricket,I would like to know what it his criteria of selection. By performances or by who he really likes, because if Walsh is the leading wickets takers of all times for the wi team and. Cannot make the team,then you realized that this guy have no knowledge about cricket at. Walsh is the very first fast bowler to take over 519 wickets in test cricket and, with all the rest of wi fast bowlers. Not one of them is really capable of typing his shoes lacers, because Marshall, Ambrose, they are over rated based on their performances. Clive Lloyd should be the very first player to be selected in the team, because is he who turned around the wi team. To a world beater, Gayle should haveto be in any all time 11 in the world, because he has scored two triple hundreds in test cricket, that would puts him ahead of Greenidge and Haynes. Plus he is the 2nd highest century maker of all times for the wi team behind, Brian Lara, also all time 3rd leading scorer for the wi team. Maybe this guy is not looking on the players them stats all, because Gayle would be more of assets to the wi team than Haynes and Greenidge. Because he also took over 250 wickets within the 3 formats of cricket, so with his bowling skills. He is far above a lot of players in the team,I would like to know on what grounds. That some of those players get selection as all time greats for the wi team, and does not have enough runs or wickets To proved their worth in the team over players,who has performed more creditable than them. I know that you have some cyber bullies out there, they does not like to hear the gospel truth. This is not a matter of fact who you really look likes,it is going off pure stats. Anyway it is his opinion and not facts,it is what he really thinks. He is not going by the performances of each player, that is selected in the all time greats wi players.I will sit back and waited to see, if I am going to get any really sensible comments. Because I have seeing all of the wi players them played,who is mentioned in the all time greats,ok.
Listening to what this guy is about the best all times players for the wi team, he does not have a clue of what he is talking about. Because in any all times greatness players for the wi team. Chris Gayle should make it over Greenidge and Haynes as a opener.He is the 3rd highest runs scorer for the wi team of all times, with 19,508 runs also the 2nd highest centuries maker behind Brian Lara, also taken 260 wickets in all 3 formats. Plus he is the only wi batsman to scored hundreds in all 3 formats, plus he has scored 2 triple hundreds puts him way ahead of the rest of batsmen away
You cannot leave out Lance Gibbs. I would have dropped Joel Garner. Sobers and Gibbs have to bowl spin together. I would also look at George Headley or Rohhan Kanhai at No.3 and cut chanderpaul. I would not play Viv or Lara at No.3. Also someone else to bat with Greenidge up top.
I don't agree putting chanderpaul in the team. Sir Clive Lloyd has to play as Captain. I would push sir Sobers up to bat at five Lloyd at six. I agree with your bowling line up because Lloyd Richards and Sobers can bowl some overs when the fast bowlers get tired.
Garner only took 6 or maybe 8 5fers and no 10fers even though he took a fantastic 259 test wickets at 20 odd. He just didn't take many big test bags. So to correct you, it was Holding who took 13 5fers and 2 10fers. Still, you've chosen a magnificent pace bowling attack, even though there's no room for Andy Roberts or Courtney Walsh, although either of those two would substitute for any of the ones you've chosen without anything significant being lost. Like Marshall and Holding, Roberts had great pace, and Walsh was similar, although not quite as tall, to Ambrose and Garner with his height and steepling bounce combined with great accuracy and slippery pace when needed. Andy Roberts was probably second only to Marshall in his skill and ability to swing and cut the ball combined with great control and an excellent bowling brain. He's unfortunate not to get in as in many respects he led the way initially in creating the great pace bowling battery being the original spearhead. Having Sobers as a fifth bowler to provide quality finger or wrist spin as well as providing a left arm pace option also, makes it an incredible bowling attack. The batting line up is absolutely second to none and it's also a fabulous fielding side in all areas. There are also some seriously great batsmen to miss out. Your focus is more on the modern, or at least less historic batsmen which is a natural tendency for our generation as we got to watch them play and of course they played more test cricket and so made more runs and centuries etc. However, some of their batsmen who could happily substitute in your 11 would be George Headley, Clive Lloyd, Clyde Walcott, Everton Weekes, Frank Worrell, Richie Richardson, Chris Gayle, Rohan Kanhai and even the likes of Roy Fredericks, Lawrence Rowe and Ramnaresh Sarwan. Other great bowlers could include Lance Gibbs, Wes Hall, Charlie Griffith, Ramadin and Valentine, and even Kemar Roach shouldn't be underestimated. Lets also not forget Colin Croft or Ian Bishop. Derrick Murray could've substituted for Jeffrey Dujon to. There have been other world class players from the West Indies to of course, but I think I've named the main unlucky ones. All that said, I absolutely agree with your team and wouldn't have chosen any different. The only temptation for me might've been to play Clive Lloyd at number 5 instead of Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Lloyd was a very great batsman and if I'd played him I'd have made him captain as well with Richards as his deputy, as was the case when the West Indies were at the their absolute peak of world domination in both Test and ODI cricket. However, with all those amazingly positive and dominant stroke makers among the rest of the top 6, including both openers, it's probably a good idea to have a player like Chanderpaul in there who could play the long, super solid defensive game if necessary. In the late 70s and 1980s it was the superb Larry Gomes who whilst being the least exciting batsman in the team, was often a middle order mainstay for them who could, and did, dig them out of trouble on occasions. Clive Lloyd was more of the explosive stroke maker type like the others. Desmond Haynes also, although explosive when he wanted to be, could also play the long defensive game being happy to score slowly when the need arose. Even more so than Gordon Greenidge, who in test cricket at least, was even more explosive and aggressive than Haynes. The two of them together were in my opinion the greatest opening combination of modern test cricket, even though one can't really call their era modern any more now that the game has moved on and changed so much, but still modern compared with other comparably great opening combinations such as Bill Ponsford and Bill Woodfall or Jack Hobbs and Herbert Sutcliffe. There have been a good number of wonderful test opening combinations in modern times but in my opinion Matthew Hayden and Justin Langer was the only one who compared with Greenidge and Haynes, who I still have at number 1. Speaking of how much the game has moved on, I'd love to see this team have a go at playing T20 cricket. They'd have loved it without doubt, and would be incredibly formidable at it. Top team! Picking each country's greatest test 11 is a very interesting and entertaining exercise. This West Indies team might just be the very best of them, although I'm sure a best Australian team would be super difficult for any imaginable team to beat.
Andy Roberts was tough not to include. With their depth you almost need 15! I'm doing England's all time 11 now and the gulf between WI and England is massive (and that's coming from an Englishman).
@@aviralspiral making all time best X1 for teams like West Indies, England and Australia is very difficult. Plz try to make the same for Australia as well. Thanks in advance.
Hi Anupam. I have just released the South Africa team and will 100% do one for Australia. I'm still working on my list for them, it's really tough as they have had so many good players.
@@aviralspiral My all time Australian test X1 is below. Mathew hyden Don Bradman Ricky Pointing Greg Chappel/Steve smith Stave waugh Allen border(c) Adam Gilchrist(wk) Shane warne Dannis Lillie Brett lee/Jeff Thomas Glann McGrath Honorable mentions : jastin langer, Mark waugh, M. Johnson, Nathan Leon, Michael Clark.
Let me first and foremost declare that number 3 should have been Sir Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards!No bowler made him hop and skip - none! The man who took on the quickest of the quickest bowlers WITHOUT AN HELMET! Number 3 all day everyday!
Dujon for wicketkeeper????? I guess you never heard of and don't know of Clyde Walcott, who scored 3798 runs at 56 average in tests with 15 100s and 14 50s in just 44 tests, compared to Dujon's 3322 runs at a 31 average with 5 100s and 16 50s in 81 tests. Such ignorance is palpable when applied to an "all time eleven". You should rename it a "my time eleven". I would even include Walcott as a pure batsman over RIchards based upon their test batting performances and records. Everton Weekes too.
Hi I think u have team bad ass lot of younger players can't make that team u have no space if one player sick bench lot of 1 player bat bowler Clive Lloyd could relax on field and just clap thank keep doing job I am from jamaica love cricket I play
Let me say that this is not the greatest West Indies team of all time. Such a team would have George Headley, Everton Weekes and Clyde Walcott in place oh Haynes, Jeffery Dujon and Gordon Greenidge (as great and talented as they were). My opening batsmen would be Headley and Chanderpaul, followed by Lara, Richards, Weeks, Walcott (wicket keeper), Sobers, Marshall, Holding, Garner and Roy Gilchrist (sorry Ambrose, you're not in my top 11). This team would be a better reflection of West Indies might and greatness. The captain would be Sir Garfield Sobers.
I respect your selection but I would of included Gus Logie , good stiker of the ball , grate fielder , reflexes like a feline picking up some of the.most deficit catches and someone who will sick around and frustrate bowlers
All-time West Indies team and no Headley, Weekes, Walcott or Worrell mentioned? Joke!!! These four to replace Greenidge, Haynes, Chanderpaul and Dujon. Frank Worrell is captain and Clyde Walcott is the wicketkeeper. The composition of this squad would mean Lara and Richards opening the batting as both have opened previously in international cricket...Richards in tests and Lara in 50 overs. The exclusion of Headley especially is scandalous.
Chanderpaul cannot make an all time West Indies Team ahead of George Headley. You also need to be fair in your comments. Brian Charles Lara is not ONLY the Greatest Batsman of his Era. Excuse me. He is undoubtedly the GREA7EST West Indian Batsman of ALL TIME. Know yuh place.
1. Sir C Gordon Greenidge 2. Sir Clyde Walcott (wk) 3. Sir IVA Richards 4. Brian Lara 5. George Headley 6. Sir Frank Worrell (c) 7. Sir Garfield Sobers 8. Malcolm Marshall 9. Sir Andy Roberts 10. Lance Gibbs 11. Sir Wes Hall
South Africa: Graeme Smith* Barry Richards Hashim Amla Jacques Kallis Graham Pollock AB de Villiers+ Mike Procter Shaun Pollock Dale Stein Hugh Tayfield Allan Donald 12th man Trevor Goddard.
@aviralspiral yes lara is a great player but I wouldn't want him to be at the crease if we lost a early wicket, his foot movements can be off at times in his early innings, more so with a fearly still new ball remember sarwan use to bat ahead of him, viv would soften the new ball abbit with his aggressiveness
Sir Everton Weekes, Sir Frank Worrell, and George Headley would have to be in any all time West Indies Team. Headley and Weekes have the highest batting averages by far. Worrell was the formidable Captain and allrounder who moulded the West Indies into a formidable team. Chanderpaul does not come close to winning a place
Bangladesh: Tamim Iqbal Soumya Sarkar Mominal Haque* Amin ul Islam Shakib al Hasan Mushfiqer Rahim+ Mehidy Hasan Riaz Tajul Islam Taskin Ahmed Mustifaza Raman Ebadot Hossein 12th man Mohammed Mumudalla.
You left out George Headley and Everton Weekes - surely ahead of Chanderpaul. Also, Richards was better at taking on pace than Lara. Richards at 3 and Lara at 4.
I was surprised that Richards wasn't chosen at no. 3. The only player that I can ever remember batting at no. 3 in test matches ahead of Viv Richards was Richie Richardson. Richardson by the way was very unlucky to have been left out of this team. I cannot remember a batsman who played the hook shot and perfectly bisected the fielders in the deep better than what he did. He more than any other batsman turned the 1992/'93 test series against Australia in Australia on its head.
Thats an insult not to have george headley in the team 22 tests in 20 years 10 hundreds average 60 33 hundreds average 70 in all first class cricket No fault of his own that war Intervened missed 7 years
Yes, where is the great George Headley!. He carried the West Indies team for many with is solo outstanding batting mastery. You could not set a containing field to limit is extraordinary betting prowess.🏏
