777: Carries tons of hazardous chemicals. 642: Carries a *NUKE*
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Another fun fact, derailment site was 6 miles from the nearest railroad, we transported the boxcars etc. On flatbed trucks laying them on their side with pilot cars......the set was in the metro Vancouver watershed area
Many simple solutions 1. Unhook the cars and use brakes and ditch the engines 2. Unhook the cars and slow them down with the rear engines 3. Out the loco in reverse and go real slow back to the yard 4. Do what they did and don’t let the rear engines ruin it
Or like in the 1987 movie Runaway Train he could've just pushed the emergency shut off switch in the cab but I'm not sure if Alco's had that button but I know EMD's have that button.
THAT WILL NEVER WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TRAIN IS GOING 100 MPH ITS IMPOSSEBLE TO UNCUPLE IT EVEN WHEN ITS GOING 5 MPH
On the up hill part they could’ve just turned off the throttle, & threw it in reverse. They’re traction motors, & they’ll do the same thing by using the dynamic brakes.
mlw m420w- a design ahead of it's time. hi tech wide cab. alco mlw. A robust impressive engine that movie producers couldn't resist. Gotta love 4 axle wide cab diesels
yup since the m420W is one of my fav engine. but is pretty sad to see most m420w are retired or being scrap. since only small railroad companys still operates/used the m420w in service.
Quiet Day we own a GP7, a GP9, a Baldwin diesel, 45 tonner, a Whitcomb a fireless cooker and a 1920s Baldwin steam locomotive. We could use an MLW M420 and maybe two F diesels
Agreed; one of my favorite locomotives to run on my HO-scale model train layout is a GE Dash 8-40BW in the BNSF "Fakebonnet" scheme (basically an ex-Santa Fe logo with "BNSF" painted on the sides.) It's a Walthers Trainline locomotive that I hardwired a DCC decoder into.
On 4:44 the West Rail 642 train was willing to derail at Silvergorge, but everyone was forced to take the derailer off the railroad tracks. The workmen were too scared to have the West Rail 642 train get stuck on the derailer and help it to stop the runaway. Everyone was afraid that the Atomic Bomb will explode and have a great way to have people in the city get killed or have a serious injury.
On 3:44 reminds me of Thomas, Terence and the Snow (Terence The Tractor) when Thomas pulled Annie and Clarabel in the snow without his snowplow after he broke it on purpose when he went through the snow drift, hit it and got stuck in it.
Not quite, what happened was that the WestRail 642 train brakes were not working, and the engineers, John Segar and the railway men were struggling to stop the runaway train, but nothing really works.
I hate how symmetrical this whole train consist is: Flat car with machine Gondola with red and yellow drums 2 box cars Centrebeam 2 box cars Gondola with red and yellow drums Flat car with machine And a caboose.
Here is a list of all the things that the movie got wrong about trains Airbrakes don't use hydraulic fluid Trains automatically go into emergency when a brake line separates All of the rail lines (that I know of) leading into Denver are either flat or uphill Hazardous materials wouldn't be stored in barrels in an open gondola they would be put in a tanker car or boxcar Trains have hand brakes A couple wouldn't snap from another locomotive pulling in the opposite direction especially since the engines are under power so the coupler is just working against gravity I heard somewhere in the move the engineer say "the dynamics won't hold" but the locomotive in the movie the Montreal locomotive works m420 doesn't have dynamic brakes Nuclear weapons have to be deactivated (made safe) before being transported Canadian locomotives would have a good chance of operating in America so the train should have been lead by an sd40-,2 gp38, gp40, 9-44CW, or another American engine Most cabooses were out of use in America by the 1980s 3:04 the engineer puts his hand on the bell switch for no reason Only one locomotive would be used for a downhill run with 10 cars Contrary to how the movie makes it look the train isn't going very vast when it hits the 1st derailer so probably the engines and maybe the first 3-4 cars would derail before it stopped
Soon as the pressure drops too low or when the air hoses decouple the train will go into emergency stop, locomotives and cars independently. It's a safety feature built in to ALL American trains by law.
I understand that. The rear locomotives could have stopped the cars easily (if the producers didn't have their heads up their ass they would realize there is a thing called a dynamic and independent brake. those 2 would have stopped the train easily)
@@stampycatfan01lol Yup, it was repainted in the later BC Rail color scheme (like the chase engines had) and has since been renumbered by the Mohawk Adirondack and Northern Railroad as 2042.
You don’t understand, though. UNSTOPPABLE: Based on a true story about CSX 8888 when the driver had gotten off and the independent was set to throttle. The runaway CSX had not crashed and that’s why AWVR 777 didn’t crash. ATOMIC TRAIN: Not based on a true story.
On 1:52 it reminds me of Thomas and the Breakdown Train (Thomas Saves The Day) when James' wooden brakes got caught on fire while going so fast with the heavy freight train.
(0:22, 4:39 - 4:49) "Oh, Sly Fox has two choices now! One, get hit by the train. Two, jump off the bridge!" "I think I'll go for choice... number two." (jumps off bridge doing a lousy Goofy holler impression)
@@mile290productions3 WestRail actually seems like a good company that has m420's going through mountains through the Western United States painted with that type of color not gonna lie
Air Brakes auto engage when air pressure drops. No Air means you stop where ever it drops. Even Tractor trailers have these issues. Fun Facts based on reality. Trains don't use Fluid for braking.
Here a fact the air bracks wend released to hold the bracks off, no air the train will just shut itself off you everything about this movie is all wrong.
Despite what some people say about this film, I do still enjoy it. It's not 100% perfect but it's a movie I'd not all horrible. It does have a few scenes that are hard to watch but I've come to deal with this over time.
It was caused by shity writing. You have a train of their Avatar but you obviously know nothing about railroads otherwise who knows his complete b*******.
Ok this movie was great in all but there could’ve been many ways to stop the runaway. 1. When 643/4820 was connected to the rear of the train, one of the workers could’ve radio in Wally and his conductor to go the first car of the train and have them disconnected it and let the two locomotives run down the summit and let the train derail causing less threat to Denver. 2. When The 643 rammed 642 from behind they could’ve went to the gondola that had the air hose that was disconnected and hook it back up and had one of the guys set the breaks on the cars causing the rest of the train to slow down and let the two locomotives run down the grade and derail. But that’s just my option tho🤷♀️
Despite the completely incorrect depiction of air brakes... well, this sort of thing could have happened. If the air brake line was blocked, or if the brake shoes were too worn out.
Why didn't they uncouple it before they hit the summit? The movie could have been cut in half and be a lot shorter. . . Plus a lot of people would have lived.
The freight cars may have had enough momentum to carry them over the summit or roll them backwards into the TCN&R Units, which may have derailed them into the valley
Yep, I also remember it being used on the "Sly Fox and Birdie" railway safety video from the 90s. Now I wanna see fanart of Sly Fox on the railroad bridge or tunnel with a freight train led by WestRail 642 approaching him :P
@@tomtodd7744 Oh yes! I also remember it being used in the Rocko's Modern Life episode "Driving Mrs. Wolfe" and the Angry Beavers episode "Gift Hoarse."
Nice movie, but (a bit too unrealistic) they chose like the worst method to try and slow/stop the train. When the rear locos got attached to the runaway, one crew member from the front could just go to the second engine, and do what the protagonist did (by wrecking the second loco's wires or what with a crowbar, so they started to slow down at jackson summit), and the train would came to a halt. Or when the rear locos got coupled up, the crew in the lead, could put the front engines into reverse, or just detach those 2 locomotives, jump to the freight cars, and let the rear locos stop the train, while the lead engines would just fly off the tracks in one of the curves. Or even when they are at the top of the hill, they were going so slow that they could easily uncouple the lead locos and let the cars stop.
My dad is an engineer since 1997 and I showed him this and he said that isn’t accurate. The engineer would push the other guys out of the way to get off first 😂😂😂😂
Jebediah Kerman the frame is going downhill and wasn't on the power according to the script there a lot of easy way to could have stopped this but the writers didn't know anything about trains
You know they could have just thrown the train into reverse. Thats what the driver of the 1996 cajon pass runaway did but it was to late and the train jumped the tracks on a sharp curve
You know you could just couple on the other locomotives on the end. @6:23 Then uncouple the bad locomotives and you'd have perfectly good locomotives to use the breaks for.
The MLW (Montreal Locomotive Works) took over rebuilding and up-keep of existing ALCO diesels after ALCO went bankrupt and GE bought them out. The MLW was really good at locomotive building and their units looked like ALCOs but sounded like EMDs. That is just how they were manufactured by MLW.
On 7:14 this reminds me of Brake Van (Donald and Douglas) while Douglas pushed James with his freight cars up the hill, and when N.W. the Brake Van got squished, when the conductor got so anxious saying to 'Go Steady! Right Away!' before N.W. the Brake Van got broken and smashed into pieces.
Because they were helping the crew members hurry up to take that derailer off the railroad tracks before the runaway train derails, so that way it will not burn, catch fire and explode, so that way people could evacuate the city ahead of time.
WELL OF COUSE NOT IT WAS GOING 80+ MPH THERE WHERE 6 PILES OF SAND IN ITS WAY YOU NEED 4365436534653465346534653465 PILES OF SAND JUST TO SLOW THE TRAIN DOWN TO 79 MPH
if i remember right from the full movie, he was trying to catch up to get the other guys off the train. its been a while since i watched the full movie.
He was trying to save the two remaining crew members, and stupidity lowered the volume on the radio, disobeying the dispatchers to back off. Then realized too late, they were slowing down to a stop and he was already going too fast, which then he doomed the whole state.
I’ve already figured out a way to solve this problem since there’s a nuclear bomb on board of course that nuclear bomb would not be active it would be disabled plus, you could’ve also disconnected the load from the locomotives and apply the emergency brake on the load and the locomotives will continue while the load will stop
Same, my dad has known kids who have done that and the rock bounces back at them and a only one time has he seen someone die from it. Other times they smash windows and other stuff.
It's a stock train sound effect from the Sound Ideas Series 1000 sound effects library. That library has a LOT of good train sounds on it, both diesel and steam.
Why not then he locomotive off? They’re going uphill, correct? They’ll slow down and the train behind them can stop it if it tries to roll back! Boom I just solved your train.
Runaway train Productions not an engineer, but I’m not sure that would work. With the loco offline, it would act as dead weight, and the grade was downhill to Denver
SeaboardSystem ChessieCSX I did that in trainz (the Amtrak falls into the water I uploaded) I didn’t slow down in time but I put the reserver up and it worked a few cars stopped
They shouldve closed the angle cock and release the damaged locomotive from the train. Then bring the good locomotive online and use it to stop the train
@@azuki2919 i get why it was going faster than a train is supposed to go, it was going 67 mph and it went down a summit and since the brakes didnt work that made the train really fast
There goes yer' knuckle buddy. One thing. He coupled. slowed down but didnt bother to change notches. Im talking about the front ones. Use your throttle. Putting it to notch 0 would help!
This is the movie Atomic Train and this guy is cutting out a lot of it, if you want to really see it search it up on RU-vid, there’s basically a whole series.
