If you're also going to buy some good subwoofers, is there still any good reason to buy the Lintons? (I am in doubt between these 2 speakers, but I most certainly am going to buy 2 SVS SB-100 Pro's.)
It might not always be as clear cut as in this situation to make it useful but I am glad you appreciated the idea - a serious message but one that hopefully in its delivery gets a smile as well :)
Well I've auditioned both speakers (including the 4.4) due to space constraints in my office and my desire for front clustered raisins I'm opting for the Linton's
I own the Lintons and the example with raisins is a great way of explaining their soundstage characteristics. It’s their biggest weakness in my opinion, while their midrange and tonality are the outstanding features. What people prefer will come down to taste and what their priorities are. What a great and comprehensive review. Bravo!
Love my EVO 4.2's! The way Wharfedale combined a, too rarely seen, soft-dome midrange and the AMT tweeter totally sold me. It really is a fabulous match and what I think really separates the EVO line from the competition. As with almost any speaker this size, a sub or two is needed for deep bass, but most should know that going in. Wharfedale is really stepping up to the plate. Excellent review!
Your coverage at Bristol of the Evo 4.4s really shows how far they have taken the 4.2s while preserving all of the aforementioned in your review plus adding that bass and keeping the clarity.
It is very obvious that no reviewer would go too much in favour of particular model as it would affect the overall interest in long term. Evo 4.2 are such a good bargain that you won't be able to get same sound quality even after spending 10x more. Wharfedale totl Elysian series beats pretty much any speaker on earth, it is so good.
I own the Lintons, bought them 2.5 months ago without hearing them first and was instantly worried I had made a bad decision .... I am no longer worried, best decision ever. My next purchase may be an "All In" to get the center Evo 4.CS and the 4.2`s to go all Wharfedale.
Congradulations on your orignal use of raisons to describe the speaker imaging. When the US distributor changed, I got a pair of EVO2-20 speakers (~~$500/pr) and was so impressed, I ordered the EVO2-30 speakers ($800/pr) and the center channel for an eventual home theater system. The EVO line is the sleeper bargain of speakers, and the addition of the new tweeter makes it even better and a great value from Wharfedale that is not well known to reviewers. The tapered cabinet style was also used with their for their top of the line Jade speakers which are no longer available.
Terry, Good review!! I picked up a pair of the 4.2's at the end of last year, and LOVE them! A three-way, with AMT, curved cabinet, and a "nifty" port design, at this price point, is a SOLID DEAL! I paired them with an older Velodyne sub, and a older Carver M-500T. I listen to ALL types of music, and am COMPLETELY SATISFIED with these speakers. I keep the grills off, because they're beautiful to look at as well. Very intrigued by your DIRAC "adjustments" comments. I've been considering purchasing a component with DIRAC capabilities for some time now... Interested to see how you think they compare to the other speakers in this comparison. 👍👍
I have spent some time with the Warfedale Dentons and have really enjoyed their relaxing sound. I have recently moved on from a fairly bright highly detailed system and like you say with that type of system it generally makes you analyse the music rather than actually sitting down and 'listening ' to the music. Im now considering moving onto the Linton's . Love the old school look with 8inch drivers and a warmer tone. I have spent far to many year's listening to the 'sounds' rather than just enjoying the music!
Harry I asked my contact at Audiolab about using the 6000a with the Lintons - they said its a great pairing and its what they used at the last Bristol show where I made a video for it - thats probably the video you have seen
@@PursuitPerfectSystem hi Terry thanks for your reply, yes that was the video i had seen. After giving it lots of thought I have decided that a stand mounted speaker just isn't going to be suitable for my needs with children etc and im now considering the floorstanding evo 4.3 and 4.4 , i think the 4.4 is probably a bit too big for me but bass is also very important so could be swayed if the bass was much greater. Do you think the evo 4.3 would give a satisfying amount of bass?
This is the first truly meaningful review of the EVO 4.2's I've heard thus far. Very well done! Spot on! I have considered these speakers for purchase but there were certain aspects of the EVOs that I "needed" to learn about opposed to what I "wanted" to hear or learn about. You nailed my needs and wants perfectly and so I can now feel much more confident in making a purchasing decision. (Lintons versus EVOs). I am considering marrying up the EVOs with the Schiit Aegir (kinda class A continuity "thing") but given the low power of the Aegirs I may need to purchase 2 as in a mono-block configuration. I'd prefer not to purchase 2 so I'll see how a single does with it's 20 W power rating. I was really looking forward to this review and you exceeded my expectations - so a huge thanks from Canada!!!!!!!!!!!! Why am I suddenly craving raisins?? (Now that was very clever!!!)
Hi all, Great review Terry. After seeing your reviews about the Evo4.2 i was confinced that i should give them a try. Well i am in love with them 😉. I owned mostly mid range speakers such as Elac 180 and cinema serie, Klipsch RP series, SVS Ultra and Prime series, Totem Mite's and Rsinmakers. All hooked up to a Pioneer SC LX 58 receiver and supported with an SVS SB 2000 sub. I like bookshelfs to be played together with a sub. So i did not put them on stands but on my tv dressoir. Slightly turned them to the sweet spot. Note that i am very picky on harsch speakers. The Evo 4.2 surprises me in every way. They look good, do not sound harsch and have a wide soundstage. Sometimes they even let me think i am in a bar listening to a band and i am even there. The Evo4.2 blew all the other speakers i owned away. I can recommend them. But as i alwsys say....hearing is for everybody personel tast. Greetings Erwin
Been through a few amps with mine, the Arcam SA20 is a SUPERB match, the class A (to 20w) addresses a slight lack of detail and dynamism at very low volumes, and the sheer power (180w/Ch into 4ohm) really gets a grip of them at all volumes.
Realy well explained and presented Steve, thanks so much for this. Subbed. I bought the evo 4.4s about 10 days ago, and i recognise many of the key sonic characters you describe in the 4.2s, which tells me two things: The evos have a family sound, and yiu know your stuff and seem to hear what i hear, huzzah! Im blown away by the 4.4s, not least because they are so easy to drive and they can really deliver even just paired wuth a Naim Atom. Word of warning! These units need a lot of 'running in'. Pump em for two hours at least before critical listening or you will want to return them. Out of the box they sound broken. After two hours you can hear they are going to be great... Im 10 days in and Id suggest they are just about ready!
I auditioned Lintons and Evo 4.2's side by side in a store. I went in planning to buy the Lintons based on reviews, but I bought the Evo 4.2, and I am very happy with them. They sound somewhat different and it comes down to preference. I found the Lintons sound richer and forward in the mid to highs, which I did not like. In other words, I found the Lintons sound too forward and bright (in comparison), and preferred the 4.2's, which seemed more balanced and relaxed. Separately, I think the walnut Evo's are one of the best looking speakers around . I love the matt look. The Lintons look dated to me. But this is all personal preference.
It was particularly interesting to see how the raisins reflect what would be assumed based on cabinet design. With the predictable blurring caused by speaker grill/ recessed mounting board design of the Linton compared to the open and curved EVO. Sound waves from the drivers radiate along the surfaces they are mounted to. When the wave hits a boundary like the cabinet or grill edge, it radiates out into the room at a slight time delay causing the blurring. I sold Wharfedale in the '70's. Like the massive W70D. They were famous for filling cavities in the cabinet walls with sand to deaden vibrations. Most speakers from that time period suffered from the recessed mounting board design flaw.
Another superb review and comparison. The downside is the more I watch your videos the more I doubt in my mind what I want? I have only owned one pair of Wharfedale's a few years ago when I was first getting into HiFi, a pair of Diamond 9.1 Anniversary Edition. For a super budget speaker, costing less than £120 new, the quality of the matte Walnut fit and finish was totally off the scale and puts speakers costing 15 times as much to shame. I mean this, I was baffled how they could produce such an amazing quality finish for literally peanuts? What interests me with the Evo is the AMT tweeter. To get an AMT tweeter with a Monitor Audio speaker you'd need to spend more than double for the Gold 100 5G at approx £1400. How would this speaker at £599, stand up against a far more expensive AMT speaker like the Gold 100? That I would really love to see (hint hint ;) PS I also loved the raisin example. A picture paints a thousand words..
been using my amazing evo 4.2 for almost a year now and planning to upgrade to lintons. the raisins anology also means the lintons have significantly better center imaging which i like (i also saw this in other linton reviews). the evo have an amazing diffused and spread out sound but lacks imaging. also, the vocals tend to be shouty and forward a lot times (can be too much in my opinion). evos are not neutral in my experience with strong emphasis on mids.
I believe they are the best looking speakers I have ever seen, in all colours. Just wish they had more sparkle at the top. Judging by review only, which I think is accurate.
Terry's on a roll:D raisins were great and accurate for the Linton I would say from my demo. Just ordered the Lintons yesterday, they will go in the actual lounge Vs my projector AV room with my Dali iKON 6Mkiis and their dual soft dome + ribbon tweeters. These speakers are highly resolving in the treble domain and have wide dispersion so the imaging is good. But I fall into the analytical side of listening and they are overall too polite for me, my tastes have changed since buying them 8 years ago or so. What I want now is to enjoy the music as a cohesive whole. The Lintons are a warm hug of music with plenty of detail but your ears don't start focusing on things. Then they just make you smile. They're cheap enough that I don't have to worry about them being either side of the wood fire and here in NZ there are earthquakes so I'm sure they will be stable too:)
Nice review. Looking forward to the rest of the group. Having heard both myself I agree with your observations. Preferred Lintons though. They sounded more life like to me. Being an opera singer I'm very used to a real orchestral sound and instrument timbers and Lintons came closer to that sound.
Just ordered them and they will arrive tomorrow. Will give my feedback in a week or so. Looking forward to your head on comparison with the other 8 speakers
@@ld4974 They are good for the price, voices and mids are clear and natural. Base a bit too boomy for me (no not standing in the corner although with the 4.2 design it should work as well). I am now trying the Quad S2 against the Evo 4.2 and so far I like the S2 a bit better. Tighter base and great voices and mids. Evo 4.2 has a little bit more authority and thicker stage. However, I notice that cables make a clear difference. Running of a XTZ Edge A2-300 amp ( very good) and have several cables (Silent Wire LS7, Qed ZT400, Supra FLY 3.4S, The Wave....) Cables is also very personal. I dont like too bright and detailed due to listening fatigue.
L D a bit of life and energy in part. But also the soundstage is a a bit unconvincing. I could have put up with one of those things missing. Not both. They are detailed. I wanted to try a true ribbon tweeter, but that detail seems to be at the expense of a bit of mass and depth. I was wondering if the Evo’s fixed that.
A very good review, I like your presentation and raisining... I hear that they are both very good speakers. I prefer the EVO's bottom slot port over the Linton's back port, it should make room placement easier...
What really clicked for me was your comparison at 13:30ish between Evo and Linton which I translated to "how will you be listening to these speakers" I'm a life long B&W customer for my main system but am growing weary of their accurate/bright/fatiguing sound. More importantly I'm currently shopping for a home office system. just bought the KEFLS50 W2's for my office and I'm not a fan...to bright and don't sound good at low volumes (IMHO). So I think the Linton"s with a PrimaLuna in my office would be good...in my main system maybe an Ev o version. that is the what I'm going to research.
The Wharfedale Lintons and similar are a much more tradiitional Wharefdale warm sound. The Evo's, like the Elysians, have a AMT tweeter, that makes them a little more lively on the top end, and not really comparable at all to the speakers not using the AMT tweeters. Can't really compare the Diamonds to the Lintons either. Just different speakers. Your raisin analogy isn't too bada comparison actually. Not ideal, but it's complex to descirbe the way sound works and appears in the air. You've done a great job with this review / comparison
I just bought the Evo's 4.2 pairing them with Nikko Alpha 130 Amp Nikko pre-amp beta 20 with a 25 band Nakamichi EQ... currently I have on one channel ADS 8hms speakers that are probably 25 plus years old and B&W 707 S2 on the other channel A&B respectively. I choose to play each channel independently. The ADS are incredible with great low extension and extremely high resolution The Evos will arrive in another week and I hope they will surpass what I have already. The B& W are simply suberb incredible lows but not as full resolution as the ADS..
Hi Terry, I really enjoyed your video because I'm undecided between the Linton and the Evo 4.2. I ask you for advice but keep in mind that I am using a translator because I am writing to you from Italy. I can't make a comparison between the two speakers in my environment and furthermore I'm not an expert on technical things. So I'm forced to think theoretically based on my listening environment. I describe it to you. Room 10 mq, distance of the speakers from the side and rear walls 30-40 cm, distance between the tweeters of the two speakers 180 cm. My listening point is at the vertex of an equilateral triangle of 180 cm, in practice there is the same distance between the two tweeters as there is with my ears. I listen to various music genres except opera and country. I do long listening sessions for 70% of the time at medium volume and the rest I turn up. Together with the speakers I will also buy a Nad with Dirac Live. In your experience, which is the theoretically most suitable model for my situation? I ask for your expert opinion. Thank you
To me ATM tweeters have a special place in my heart. the air the speed its a sound u cant really explain it must be felt, btw the raisin u used is the best thing a reviewer could use it gives u a visual overview of the sound. keep on the good work
I recently got the Evo 4.2 as a replacement for my old B&W 602 s3's which are in terms of format the same kind of 3 ways. Don't regret the purchase, I love them. Few characteristics. The Evo has a lot of clarity in the treble but are not as bright as the 602 s3's (which are in the spectrum also not not really as bright as some small modern bookshelves) . Perhaps I can describe the EVO as more life-like. Ioften have the illusion that a real performance is going on in the room. A horn loaded speaker puts an extra dimension to that experience, but these ones get pretty close. What I also want to underline is that the Evo's have a great balanced bass. The B&W's were bloated in their lows and while their range was low it didnt reach sub levels and also didn't really "connect" to the lower end frequencies of a sub woofer due to this pumping bass which messed it up for any sub to really smoothly connect. One could conclude it would be great for dance music but I hardly played it because it sounded ugly. The bass was more developed for Rock and Jazz and I often wished I could have equalized the bass out to balance and tinker some other things to make a greater sounding speaker. It just feels like it has more potential. No problems here with the Evo's, they are absolutely perfect in their own signature. What I only noticed the B&W's did a bit better was how they sounded outside the location they pointed at. With the EVO's you really need to sit in their range to notice the details.With the B&W's you could stand far aside them and still have the room filled. This is not a big deal however :)
Hi! What amp would you recommend for the Evo 4.2? Denon any good for these, since they are more likely to have a more brighter sound as compared to Marantz. I am worried it might be too treble-y. Just can’t decide ...
Newly subscribed your channel. From India (Kerala) You really do great reviews with no non-sense, that's unique when compared to other audio reviews in youtube. You speak about the sound more and less about visual appearance. Now coming to the point have read that Linton's have a typical laid back characteristic, which is something I prefers. A more neutral presentation with less listening fatigue. Also read Linton has a bigger soundstage compared to Kef s R-3. Wished to buy a medium sized speakers with proper woofer, midrange, tweeter setup, always. And both these qualifies for that. Was seriously eyeing Linton, we have limited opportunity for an audition, leave the option to home test it. So have to rely on reviews heavily. Only serious buyers(while buying) are offered an audition here, India. So will it be a bad idea for a person having laid back preference to go and buy it to be paired with a rega elix-R. It is seen as a lifetime investment. Hoping that you may be able to throw some light.
Terry, I love your reviewing style, but I’m going to make this more difficult for you. If you added a sub, like any Rel or a Rel t9i or dual Rel’s or dual Rel t9is to the mix of this review, which speaker would you choose, Lintons or Evo 4.2? Given that both Rel’s or even one would clearly out perform the bass of the Evo 4.4. If you have not already done so, can you point out what tools you use for your DSP correction or do you sell those tools and could you talk about the procedure, just a little bit. I’m not expecting you to give all of your DSP secrets away because I believe it’s a service that you sell. Your example of the raisins was actually brilliant and should be used more by others because it takes the guess work out of it because sound is so hard to describe. If you have already covered DSP please point me to that video, thanks as always.
That is why it’s very important to listen for yourself because it’s impossible for me to predict what others rooms are going to be like because they are all so different. Also valve amplifiers vary so wildly
I replaced the q acoustics 3050i with the evo 4.3 which are the small tower in the range and smaller than my previous speakers and on another planet in terms of sound clarity even though I really liked the q acoustics which costed half of what my current wharfedale cost. Great speakers since I was shopping for something within the 2500 Euro budget and the wharfedale sounded better to my ears than most of the more expensive options I listened to, new kef R included
Top review! Thanks. I particularly appreciated your comments about analytical listening around minute 13 but the whole review was chockablock with interesting comments.
The Evo 4.2 seems to be a more modern speaker majoring in detail and clarity, whereas the Linton is more old school trying to give a balanced musical gamut. In any case the Evo seems great value for money. IMHO the Wharfedales offer more bang per buck than Focal or B&W. I do think Wharfedale are on a roll.
Great review Terry. Smart looking speaker and great to see new carbon fibre material used in the tweeter.. will demo these to hear what difference it makes to more traditional tweeters. I recall older ae bookshelf speakers also having Less agility or timing . I wonder if it’s anything to do with the pointed cone ae tend to use in their mid/bass driver
Incredible I get so many mixed reviews about the comparison among these two speakers. Crazy... really crazy. Electronics seem to make a LOT of difference.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I've made drawings and used beans to explain in pictures over messenger to friends what I am referring to, or what I am getting from such and such recording... I completely know where you're coming from. I am dying to see the Raisins diagram from the Fyne speakers compared to the others. I own Fyne, and I feel they are simply stellar, but then I might also be Jaded, lol.
Got a pair of Evo 4.2 for £350 ex demo from a local dealer. As new and sound great so far but only on an old Pioneer SA 500a amp. Next job is a decent AV receiver.
The KEF shouldnt sound like the Linton, they should sound more like the EVO - I would maybe have a think about a few other factors that could be the cause
They look interesting. I am coming from a pair of B%W 685 S 2' . And the two speakers are nearly Identical in Specs. THE B&W s, are slightly more extended than the Warfedale. Also they are more efficient at 93 DB. So, what am I gaining? Further , I am listening to the speaker test on the 685's. So, I am not sure what I am listening for? THE B%W are running 43 -25K. DO I replace my B%W's? What would be the definitive factor, that would make me want to switch speakers? THE one thing that got me hooked, are the Air-Motions. I am running Martin Logans on my main system, and I know how amazing those tweeters sound. Thank you for the excellent review.
The Lynton's are very much of the old school 'BBC' design (early KEF, Rogers, Graham, Spendor and of course Harbeth) to name but a few, albeit in an updated presentation and are voiced towards a more neutral sound and excel with certain musical genres, such as acoustic/vocals, folk, jazz, most blues, classical even - relaxed you might say. Whereas the Evo's are fast and dynamic across a varied and perhaps more recent genres - you're a bit late to the party though Terry, seems the word is out that these Evo's are a freekin steal (sssh don't tell Wharfedale!) my only quibble is that they are not bookshelf speakers - stand-mounters all day everyday. So, I guess your choice of listening may dictate your preference or you could buy both (ps I am not in the employ or getting any kick-backs from the manufacturers) cough...
Well been looking for a good 3 way bookshelf that works,not only these are absolutely gorgeous I hope they sound as good they look. Going pair them up with duals SVS-SB2000 home theater and music. You sold me on these speakers with raisins. Great review, I watched all of your bookshelves .Ive subscribed cheers from Canada.
Just watched a couple of comparisons over the weekend - liked them so much that I am now a subscriber. The raisins idea actually made sense. I'm feeling kind of partial to the Evo 4.2s and may replace my KEF R300's with them - I'm looking for a more non-fatiguing speaker. Speaking of which, how fatiguing/non-fatiguing are the Evo 4.2s after a few hours' listen?
I've had mine for 6 months now, I've got LS50's and a pair of Q Acoustics 3020's too The LS50 make a better job of TV but the Wharfies are a more neutral speaker....very revealing despite being totally non fatiguing....so they don't suit poor amplification...don't bother if you have class D or an AV amp...neither will let them shine the way a good 100 plus watts of A/B does...they'll work OK but just not quite as they should. They have more of a dig around in 4ohm than the specs suggest. They also take forever to run in, 3 months effectively with normal usage. But, no, no fatigue
@@DomRivers67 thanks Dominic. That's what I was hoping to hear. I'm picking a pair up this weekend. I've got a 76w musical fidelity m2si a/b amp and 130w into 4 oh with lots of current and using in a small 15x10 room. I think I should have enough power. It was plenty for the Kefs.
I like your raison d’etre (!) for using a visual aid to describe the different sound presentation between speakers, by means of comparison. Overlaid comparive frequency response plots between speakers is the only other visual method I can think of, that could give some idea of the differences. I am looking forward to your upcoming speaker reviews.
thanks, i gave crutchfield a call and bought two evo 4.2s and a cambridge audio cxa81. i know nothing about, for me, expensive speakers and amplifiers. i hope i like these things. i'm moving from edifier r1280t's, $100 and they have their own amps, to what i just bought. $79 for the usb connector. i really know nothing about the things i've just bought.
Pair these wharfedale evo 4.2 with tt2+ m scaler and benchmark ahb2, both ahb2 and tt2 in low gain mode and you could have a system which is unbeatable at any price point.
Hi Terry great work ! Love watching your videos ! I'm adding EVO 4.C Center Channel along with my EVO 4.2's for watching Movies. What sort of budget AVR or Amp combo to give the descent sound ? Thanks in advance.
i think that all is perfect about the wharfedale evo 4.2 but I am a little convinced that the space between the speaker and bottom plate was more an aesthetic choice than sound wise as some suggest. They needed a space to put the name of the speaker and on standmounts it just looks classy.
I have epos es14s. Wanted new upgrade,but didn't want to risk over a grand on the Linton's,so looked at the Evo. Alot of reviews rated the Denton as a nicer sounding speaker,so I ordered them. Oh dear,they were a definite downgrade to my Epos. Fortunately,I could return them to Amazon. Probably stick with what I got. Reviews can get taken you in wrong direction.
Excellent video and comparison!If you like you can test the new Mission LX-3 MΚII 350 euros.Mission is sister company (IAG) with wharfedale and this new speaker was designed by Peter Comeau who i think also design the wrfs 225s!!
Also i think the best affordable speakers are : Wharfedale Diamond 11 series , EVO series and Elysian series designed by Peter Comeau. They sound and look like speakers that cost 3 or 4 times more , they are unique and very good built. I HAVE SPOKEN
I'm torn between the 4.1's and 4.2's. I'm thinking for an extra £150 it's a no brainer. Saying that, a chap on a different vid commented that he heard the two together and said the 4.1s sounded clearer. So he went with the 2 ways. I think a trip to richer sounds might be the best bet (when they're open!)
i learnt the importance when i got my wharfdale evo 4.2 speakers it sounded terrible on my desk which is big and made of plywood i kinda knew this would happen so i put them ontop of my old speakers since i blew the woofers when family annoyed me but anyways tannoy Mercury m20 speakers are a great height for the wharfdales still sounded muddy close to the wall moved it bit by bit till it was about a 1 m away the midbass evened out and lower tones really came to life for anyone who uses wharfdale evo 4.2 speakers i would remove the black foot piece of wood so ur left with the speaker box the plinth at the bottom doesn't sound good with the down firing port i assume this is because the plinth allows for bass to come from the sides and not the fromt or back it brings the speakers into an audiophile happiness for me
Another great review, thanks Terry. So I guess I am going to have to try and home demo both the Evo 4.4 and the Lintons and decide which sound I prefer. Do you know which retailers in the UK would facilitate this? Thanks again
The Evo 4.2 does a great job in this. Source: own experience and another review comparing them to the Kef ls50 meta. I only noticed one thing. Radio broadcast with those multiband compressors and limiters on top get really exposed for pushing dynamics in the mids away. Not disturbing but more noticable than with my old B&W's.
Thanks, great interesting review. We want more raisins! I would like to know : if your only parameter was the emotional aspect, wich speaker would you chose?
Hi Terry, It would be very interesting to compare the Evo 4,2 with the Dynaudio Emit 20. It would be nice to see what the results are since the are both highly capable speakers in a sort of the same price range. Keep up the good work!
800 pounds for one single speaker? Wow that indeed is quite a lot compared to the prices here in the Netherlands. Over here the Emit 20 costs 475 euro's for a single speaker.
I really ..really ...really want the 4.4 but I found a set of Kefs Q700 from their site for $700 a pair when the new Q750s came out. Wharfedale is making some really impressive speakers up & down the price scale. Up to about 2 yrs ago, I wasn’t too aware of wharfedale until I heard set of Denton 85. Recently just heard the Elysium. I personally think they sound better that the B&W 803D. Better balanced less emphasis on the highs. Really impressed me with its flat full range sound.....yes.....airy too. I need an excuse to my wife to buy a set of 4.4s
Great review thanks. I'm very tempted to an upgrade to either the Evo or Linton but I can't decide. Just goes to show that the perfect speaker doesn't exist as I like attributes of both speakers
To get the attributes of both you will likely have to spend more money, I don't mean that offensively or to insult you in anyway but you will find speakers that do both at higher price points - for example the Wharfedale Elysian look to have the AMT of the EVO and mid range driver of the Linton and the cabinet of the EVO but likely all better - I have my eye on them :) They cost a LOT more though
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Hi Terry no offense taken. To be honest this would just be a temporary upgrade until I invest in something serious. I had planned a big upgrade for my speakers this year and getting plenty of auditions in and the elysian on that audition list along with the likes of Dali Rubicon, KEF r series, b&w 7 series, spendor d line etc but that hasn't happened with covid. I am always impressed with the wharfedale room at the Bristol show and this might satisfy my urge to upgrade for the time being.
@@BJyelhsA I am glad you didn't take my comment in the wrong way Ashley mate and I can fully appreciate its a hard choice and without getting a demo its even harder.
Hello Mister, First of all, Thanks for all your great and honest video !!! I enjoyed all of them :-) My actual system is : Q Acoustics concept 20 with a NAD 320BEE and Chromecast Audio for spotify. I enjoy it especially with musics with voices and acoustics. (Bass is light but not bad according the size) I would like to upgrade my system with approximately 2500 euro to try to go futher (Soubd quality, stage, bass etc…) but unfortunately I got only room for Bookshelf speaker….according my wife :) I found your channel because of the Wharfedale EVO 4.2 that I was just discover on a previous video on another Channel What do you advice me for a 2500e Budget ? What would you prefer between LS50 and Wharfedale EVO 4.2 (For Wharfedale I need a Way to purchase them in France) Speaker : LS50 / Wharfedale EVO 4.2 / others ??? Amplifier : Cambridge CX81 / Marantz PM7000N / or something else ? (that I can find in local store) Thanks in advance for your help and Advices. Best regards Cedric
Awesome review, and is something I'm going through at the moment, and I'm err-ing to the side of the Lintons. One question is, while I appreciate there isn't a matching centre for the Linton's, what centre would you pair with them? I thought a Diamond 11.CS as it has the same driver material etc, but I've been recommended by certain shops to just go for the 12.C. It's not ideal, but unfortunately I can only have one system! What do you think? Thank you
Cheers Chris, I was a little worried about doing it because I didn't know if people would appreciate the serious message hidden in a light heated jacket - but so far so good :)
I had a pair of EVO2-10, and there punched way above their weight class. I don't listen the way I once did, I have a pair of Klipsch R-15M these days, but I do miss those Wharfedales.
Well consider it like this, this is not me having a pop at anyone but just looking at the alternative - when someone reviews something like speakers they are hearing maybe 50% of their room and about 50% of the speaker - because the room dominates the sound of the speaker in key areas, this is unavoidable and different room sizes and placement the speakers will sound different. This has been the case since the dawn of the first speaker The reviewer may say well I know my room and I can listen through the room and you can of course, but you are still hearing the rooms effect on the speaker - so their opinion is of the speaker in their room which is a totally different room to yours and you have no idea about the sound they are hearing in their room when they review the speaker. So that review is no more relevant or less than mine for starter except I am ultra transparent and try and show as much as I can because video allows for more than mags and websites. I don't take that approach I do my best to take my room out of the equation as much as possible to try and just hear the speaker - this is impossible but I try - this is how I want to listen anyway. So DSP helps to undo the negatives of my room on how the speakers should sound so I would argue I am hearing more of them as an overall speaker rather than less from using dsp - that is my take on it and I am happy for others to have a different view of course. Are my reviews more or less relevant that is up to you to decide but when you take into account the true full picture I dont think so. I also record the sound of my review system and make a video demonstrating this sound to give you the best idea I can of the sound quality I am referring to in the review, to give you the most context I can for the review overall. I cant do anymore right now, if I could I would - review, demo, graphs what else is there :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem yhea, never thought of it like that, I suppose every review of every speaker, or other piece of kit for that matter, is influenced by its surroundings like you say, I like the reviews on RU-vid, but suppose if you take them as gospel and expect exactly what's been described to take place in your personal space, you maybe in for a suprise,, Anyway thanks for going the extra mile, I'll put my sub in,👍
@@paulwibb.8944 yes its a negative of the subjective nature of the beast but if your aware of it you can spot things like reviewers listening spaces and when you know a little about how that space sounds you can guestimate what the room is doing to how the system sound I.e a lively room will emphasise treble and bass and make mid range sound more reverberant
@@PursuitPerfectSystem yes I know first hand of how people ignore the room, trying to convince someone their not getting the best out of there equipment or space is no easy task I suppose, not always easy though depending on lifestyle.
Hello All, I finally received my Wharfedale EVO 4.2 in walnut yesterday, wasn’t my 1st choice in color but I do not regret this choice since the finition is so beautifull !!! My Room is a « L » Shape, my stereo system is set in one branch of this « L » in a 4x4m square. I place EVO 4.2 at almost 2.3m from eachother. They got wall begind them at about 15cm, and wall on their side is at about 50cm. They replace a Q Acoustics Concept 20, on 1st track played from spotify (do not even remember what it was) I Was surprised by the fullness and precence of bass in a good way !!!! I needed weeks to get decent bass on my concept 20 after the Break-in. But after 30 minutes compare do my Concept 20, I felt : - Bass are too much present and « BOOMY » in some tracks not as tight that my litle concept 20 - Midrange is Thinner - Less impactfull in drums restitution (I was surprised, due to break in not done ?) - For the moment I prefer the voice representation on concept20 By toe EVO 4.2 in, is a little less Boomy and I also set Bass to zero on my Marantz PM7000N (they were set at +1 from Concept 20). I do prefer this restitution So far I do not know to much what to think about their performance and sound restitution since my tracks no sounds like I used to. I will let time for the Break in speaker and work on speaker placement after it. I got some question/help for you all : - How long do you think the break in could last ? - May Midrange and bass reponse should change ? - I am surprised that midrange sound thinner and shyier than Concept20 - Should I get the speakers closer to eachothers ? Thanks
Yes give them time and different speakers with more and or less bass output are going to behave differently in your room. You may have had the qacouatics positioned to reinforce their bass where as the much larger evo 4.2 might be giving you more bass and require a different setup. Great sound is 80% setup so take your time and don't assume the same room spot will be optimal for both speakers Bass boom is the speaker room interaction not the speakers man - room acoustics 101. This message may sound harsh and I am sorry if it comes across like that but I am trying to be honest with you to help you
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks a lot for your fast answer and above all, your great advices that I will follow :-). I am not desapointed by the speakers, I was just surprised by the sound, but everything your just explained make sense to me now :-) I will enjoy music for some days/weeks and after when the break in will be over, I will try to find the best location for the speakers by trying to get them closer or further, toe in or face to me. Thank a lot for taking time to answer my thought and for all your great advices !!! I really really appreciate it :-) Greets Cedric
@@glennelliott4989 Hello, yes I kept them. To answer you in a short way, you should consider to watch this video and the ones he recommended inside : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DVyR4fXAQxs.html They sound bigger that their size, placement and room is more important that it ever been with all my other speakers. I enjoy them but if I change them will be for more forwarded voice speaker... (I realised in time that its more the way I enjoy sound reproduction) You should also rewatch "pursuit perfect system" conclusion and chose the one you may pick according sound rezponse you prefer and not focus too much on the rank. So far I am happy with them and I will keep for a while. (In real they are so much more beautiful & quality is amazing for 700e) Sorry if I confused you but I am not as good as this channel to put word on it 😉 Cedric
