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What’s Next for LeBron After Another Denver Defeat?| The Bill Simmons Podcast 

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by J. Kyle Mann to discuss the playoff series between the Lakers and the Nuggets. They also talk about LeBron James after this season.
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@dionysise5008
@dionysise5008 5 месяцев назад
That Westbrook trade was the absolute disaster
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 5 месяцев назад
Le GM at his worst.
@davincerica7232
@davincerica7232 5 месяцев назад
KCP, Kuzma... They chose THT (who LeBron constantly overpraised) over Caruso 😂
@AndrewWright1998
@AndrewWright1998 5 месяцев назад
That sank them
@ineedsaltplease620
@ineedsaltplease620 5 месяцев назад
Did em in
@Edd_LShore
@Edd_LShore 5 месяцев назад
Increible. Literally I still dont get it. How to destroy your own career for no particular reason. He didnt even like Russ. This wasnt about friendship. Insane
@chrissilman8495
@chrissilman8495 5 месяцев назад
The '14 Spurs played the prettiest basketball I've seen maybe ever and I am a die hard Jordan era Bulls guy.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 5 месяцев назад
Wow apparently we are the same guy. I'm the same. "The beautiful game" like the Brazilians do about soccer. It was a perfect basketball machine.
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 5 месяцев назад
1986 Celtics.
@brianbiswell7591
@brianbiswell7591 5 месяцев назад
They were talking about this century though. So 86 Celtics wouldn't be mentioned by Bill. He has the 86 Celtics as his best team of all time when he wrote his book back in 2009
@NetoHernánÇòrtēz
@NetoHernánÇòrtēz 5 месяцев назад
17-18 warriors dummies! Lol
@untexan
@untexan 5 месяцев назад
That 2014 Spurs team ripped the Big 3 Heat a new one, it was beautiful basketball
@DavidBagga
@DavidBagga 5 месяцев назад
Lebron after G2: “what are we doing with the replay center?” Lebron after G3 : “it’s just basketball” This guy is something else 😂
@KobaniacMinded
@KobaniacMinded 5 месяцев назад
It makes it extremely hard to be a Bron fan with his attitude 😂
@Jays119
@Jays119 5 месяцев назад
Lakers in 7. Thank me later
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 5 месяцев назад
@@Jays119Like the Lakers will be out of game 4 within the first 7 minutes? That’s definitely probable.
@shorewall
@shorewall 5 месяцев назад
@@Jays119 It's one thing for a Lakers fan to be delusional. But to say "Thank me later", like you're giving out some hot tip? Lol.
@Sam19509
@Sam19509 5 месяцев назад
@@shorewallROFL Lebron … “Don’t let us get one”. Jokic “Ok guys if we finish the sweep can I go home to Serbia for a week.”😂😂
@Royaltrueorange345
@Royaltrueorange345 5 месяцев назад
MPJ's jumper is a thing of beauty to watch.
@Spider-Complexion
@Spider-Complexion 5 месяцев назад
The way they talked about Denver and Jokic reminds me of “old school” teams. And I’m a younger fan, so I’m just mostly getting it off of the history and documentations that I’ve watched.
@LouSeph
@LouSeph 5 месяцев назад
They play very much like the Spurs with Tim Duncan and Tony Parker as Jokic and Murray.
@anthonymelendez333
@anthonymelendez333 5 месяцев назад
Yea but that wasn’t like the lakers of 00’s as a Celtic fan that laker squad was ridiculous
@KoolTism
@KoolTism 5 месяцев назад
Take a shot everytime bro with A's hat says "like".
@michaelmccollum2879
@michaelmccollum2879 5 месяцев назад
2014 Spurs!? Come on Bill.
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 5 месяцев назад
They were so pissed by missing their chance in game 6 in 13 that they came back and decided to play perfect basketball again the Heatles.
@jlui21
@jlui21 5 месяцев назад
@@David-iv6je -- The revenge series of Spurs in 2014 against the Heat, amazing. Honorable mention: 2011 Mavs where Dirk beats a superteam.
@prod.snqwfall1347
@prod.snqwfall1347 5 месяцев назад
I love the 2014 Spurs, one of my favorite teams of all time. But they really almost lost in the first round fr and we can’t pretend that didn’t happen
@eude2409
@eude2409 5 месяцев назад
He’s being a prisoner of the moment smh 😂
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je 5 месяцев назад
@@jlui21 Oh hell yeah. The 11 Mavs were theoretically a lesser team but they executed perfectly. It was a beautiful run.
@Sam19509
@Sam19509 5 месяцев назад
I think Charles Barkley called it a few years ago if Michael Porter Jr. becomes healthy and develops into Nuggets second best player then Denver is on its way to becoming a dynasty. Murray is still important but Porter’s shooting and defence is the biggest asset on the nuggets next to Jokic.
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 5 месяцев назад
Yep, I agree. They’ve gone up 3-0 while Murray has shot the ball inefficiently so if Murray is shooting at his normal percentages plus MPJ ascending I could def see the Nuggets 3 peating provided everyone stays healthy. They have great team chemistry, a clearly defined leader that gets everyone involved so you don’t have guys getting upset that they aren’t getting their numbers. Really good player development and scouting. It’s def a good recipe for a dynasty, especially since their core is young. Jokic is 28 so likely won’t decline anytime soon.
@ivelinkamenov
@ivelinkamenov 5 месяцев назад
@@Romanus- Well, the only thing you are wrong about is Jokic's age. He is 29, not that young :)
@Sam19509
@Sam19509 5 месяцев назад
@@Romanus- Porter Jr was suppose to be the #1 pick in 2018 ahead of Ayton, Bagley & Luka. He sat out his lone college season because of back issues and back surgeries. Then got red flagged by multiple team doctors who investigated his medical issues. He fell in the draft and landed in the lap of Denver. He missed his rookie season and got hurt for most of another season but when he is healthy he is lethal.
@t-god2439
@t-god2439 5 месяцев назад
Idk if that’s ever going to happen idk if his back will let him be the player he was supposed to be
@dariusdragomir9414
@dariusdragomir9414 5 месяцев назад
@@ivelinkamenovwe ll see how fast he declines, but id say next year jokic is mvp again
@ManualsRBetter
@ManualsRBetter 5 месяцев назад
Nobody is beating Denver if they continue to play like this. They play the best team game in the league.
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 5 месяцев назад
Yep, reminds me of the 2014 Spurs except with Jokic being a much better passer than Duncan. Totally unselfish play and the ball is always moving
@pillcosby3949
@pillcosby3949 5 месяцев назад
I mean, if you’ve been watching this team, we’ve been playing like shit tbh
@cedccc222
@cedccc222 5 месяцев назад
2014 Spurs but Boris Diaw had the magnitude of TD's talent
@tomcustis9272
@tomcustis9272 5 месяцев назад
T wolves match up the best with Denver in the west imo. Still picking Denver tho
@davydignatenko8651
@davydignatenko8651 5 месяцев назад
@@cedccc222good take. Diaw is far underrated
@kultan2000
@kultan2000 5 месяцев назад
Nuggets is simply an OLD SCHOOL TEAM built in this era. Lakers had a template and won in that joke of a Bubble Championship then blew up all of their size and IQ advantage to chase people who'd CREATE and spread the floor for Lebron to make his life easier. 6 years. Two top 75 players. 1 ring. 5 underachieving seasons.
@YoungMaster_626
@YoungMaster_626 5 месяцев назад
@@poorchrisfacts bro 💯
@febrizey
@febrizey 5 месяцев назад
@@poorchris not even true, yall just be saying shit. The Lakers would be in the playoffs in every year except that Russ year even without the play-in. Go look at the records and use your brain.
@scarletspider1240
@scarletspider1240 5 месяцев назад
That’s the benefit of being LeBron…teams move heaven and earth to put players around you that YOU’RE asking for…then when they underperform and you lose..it’s the teams fault for not getting you enough help. James is a chump.
@fatpatlives1998
@fatpatlives1998 5 месяцев назад
​@lakerodom1325exactly 💯
@cmcgccjsl
@cmcgccjsl 5 месяцев назад
The level of stupid you have to have to call the bubble Championship a joke is impressive. Most folks ****ing quit there. They didn't want to compete or even be there. Denver did, and Miami did, and the Lakers did. Y'all forget that's where the Nuggets started. It revealed who can compete in bad circumstances. Lakers made a run to the conference finals. Miami keeps making runs lower seeds just by being able to compete. You're so eager to hate on someone whose life you're jealous of that you undercut what is obvious. Jokic is the highest IQ player since Bron that has a perfectly constructed team to take advantage of his strengths. And he matches that with effort and will. It's not "old school", it's who's "Next". 🙄
@lifethrualense1234
@lifethrualense1234 5 месяцев назад
What next for Lebron? Step 1: blame his coach. Step 2: blame his teammates. Step 3: rinse and repeat
@josephnagle4137
@josephnagle4137 5 месяцев назад
You forgot the refs.
@MrOneanddone91
@MrOneanddone91 5 месяцев назад
Step 4: Make up an injury Step 5: Lie about retiring
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 5 месяцев назад
COPE
@lifethrualense1234
@lifethrualense1234 5 месяцев назад
ABB: anybody but Bron
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 5 месяцев назад
Step ^: Praise himself and blame everyone else in his podcast with plumber JJ reddick
@thewalruswasjason101
@thewalruswasjason101 5 месяцев назад
This guy says “ like” A LOT.
@ineedsaltplease620
@ineedsaltplease620 5 месяцев назад
He's awful
@kedrprao
@kedrprao 5 месяцев назад
I legit stopped watching 4 mins into video. Like wtf is he talking about man. Like come on…!
@benjaminharrison5342
@benjaminharrison5342 5 месяцев назад
​@@bigkahunaburger7782 buddy if nobody tells him how is he supposed to know?
@Kagemusha08
@Kagemusha08 5 месяцев назад
@@bigkahunaburger7782 This may be shocking for those who live in California, but many people find it annoying when others use meaningless verbal ticks every 5 words. Especially when those others are 30-something men who should have learned to say a fucking sentence without sounding like a teenaged girl by now.
@wc4201
@wc4201 5 месяцев назад
2014 Spurs entered the chat
@bikramarora1819
@bikramarora1819 5 месяцев назад
The 2014 Spurs were a fantastic team and a real crowning achievement for the dynasty but I’ve always felt that team got a bit overrated just because they dismantled a Heat team that was very much on its last legs as a competitive force. I think any team that came out of the West would’ve destroyed the Heat albeit not as emphatically as the Spurs did. People remember the finals beatdown but they don’t remember that the 8th seeded Mavs took them to 7 games in the first round.
@juanstepbehind
@juanstepbehind 5 месяцев назад
Entered the chat and what? Beat the 01 Lakers? Beat the 17 Warriors? Losing the year before to the Heat? The 2014 Spurs have left the chat
@realbro1415
@realbro1415 5 месяцев назад
​@@bikramarora1819So 2014 LeBron was on his "last legs"???? What are you talking about???? 🤡
@Rooski245
@Rooski245 5 месяцев назад
@@bikramarora1819tf? Terrible take. They destroyed that Thunder team as well. That Heat team ran through the East. You guys just love revisionist history.
@Rooski245
@Rooski245 5 месяцев назад
@@juanstepbehindlol you mad. Highest point differential in finals history. Shut your mouth and never talk hoops again
@marbensamson1624
@marbensamson1624 5 месяцев назад
I don’t even understand why media keeps on forcing Lebron for GOAT conversation. His resume don’t even deserve number 2. Here are the list of his asterisk championships. 1st ring 50 games Lockdown champion* 2nd ring Ray Allen’s 3pointer* 3rd ring Draymond Green Suspension Stimulus package* 4th ring Disneyland Bubble championship* In Season tournament champion😂
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 5 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@omieg89
@omieg89 5 месяцев назад
Why is a lockdown championship an asterisk? Why is the Ray Allen shot an asterisk? Draymond was suspended because he had racked up a certain amount of points which meant he would serve a suspension. Every team played in the bubble. What advantage did it give the Lakers that it didn’t give to other teams?
@fatpatlives1998
@fatpatlives1998 5 месяцев назад
​@omieg89 LeBron the only player they do this stupid shit with
@FitMuthatrucka
@FitMuthatrucka 5 месяцев назад
They always hype Lefraud as the smartest player to ever play the game..I submit to you that is a false narrative. Jokic is a much more cerebral player with a much more comprehensive understanding of the game. Lebum will always destroy the team because he’s not a selfless player..if he was, Deelo would actually thrive as a PG.
@omieg89
@omieg89 5 месяцев назад
I actually think Lebron’s basketball IQ is overhyped as well. He has no feel for the momentum of a game and what’s required at specific times.
@trevorburton3290
@trevorburton3290 5 месяцев назад
If Lebrons IQ is as high as people claim, he would know how much of a negative impact he has at his current age. He just stands around whenever he doesnt have the ball in his hands, he blows defensive assignments sometimes what looks like on purpose, he constantly looks disengaged from the guys around him, he doesnt even set up great plays that often, not to mention he takes some of the dumbest ill timed shots I've ever seen. He just looks like a shell of himself that waits until theres a spot for him to score or get an easy pass to pad numbers. I always thought he was a great player but i dont see how his IQ elevates the team around him at this point. Giannis can honestly do what Lebron does and people dont rave about his IQ.
@michaelplant3036
@michaelplant3036 5 месяцев назад
As a Nuggets fan one of the things I have noticed is that anytime an opposing player drives and ends up on the floor the nuggets push and run consistently creating mis matches and 4 on 5 situations. Especially in this lakers series defensive rebounds and wild drives end up as easy buckets for us. love Jokers fire and motor, the nuggets fully embrace Jokers peesona its great to see team basketball!
@turner1291
@turner1291 5 месяцев назад
Why was Lebron so mad at the replay center last game. What, they made a mistake. It’s just basketball :)
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 5 месяцев назад
Listen to the whole quote
@_clownworld
@_clownworld 5 месяцев назад
LeTampon is officially the joke of the NBA. He needs to retire
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 5 месяцев назад
@@_clownworld U r gay
@17NateJohnson
@17NateJohnson 5 месяцев назад
Let’s let Jokic win a 2nd title b4 we get more excited. He’s now in the pantheon, but let’s let him actually climb the ladder. The sky does look like it’s the limit. 3-5 titles looks possible. But Giannis and co foundered and fizzled. It’s not easy to repeat and stay dominant, more respect to Ws for their competitive longevity,
@untexan
@untexan 5 месяцев назад
Why are there conspiracy theory videos in your "classical music" playlists comrade
@17NateJohnson
@17NateJohnson 5 месяцев назад
@@untexan can you be more specific? “Conspiracy theories” often means “views I disagree with”.
@wadehenderson1081
@wadehenderson1081 5 месяцев назад
Giannis is a diva
@mdquaglia
@mdquaglia 5 месяцев назад
Does Bill hate the Spurs??? How are the 2013 Heat better than the 2014 Spurs???
@adebih8126
@adebih8126 5 месяцев назад
66/16
@Tom-bn6pr
@Tom-bn6pr 5 месяцев назад
All Simmons can bring himself to say about Kyrie is “he’s been good” 😂
@gators9570
@gators9570 5 месяцев назад
Holy fuck this guy says like a lot
@daviday87
@daviday87 5 месяцев назад
He says it so much that it bleeds into Simmons’ speech patterns after a while 😂😂
@ElonDaOmnissiah
@ElonDaOmnissiah 5 месяцев назад
“Not to shift this to the Celtics …” no one else has to say that lol.
@deanwalker7216
@deanwalker7216 5 месяцев назад
Celtics. 1 title in 37+ years. Move on, Bill.
@beefhammer270
@beefhammer270 5 месяцев назад
Just let Bron retire. Hes already like the 8th best player of all time, at least until Curry passes him before retiring. Man can relax finally
@yousefl3335
@yousefl3335 5 месяцев назад
8 th best? Who’s in your top 10? lol
@omieg89
@omieg89 5 месяцев назад
I don’t agree that Lebron is 8th best but I do think that part of the reason Lebron continues to play is because he doesn’t want people to forget him.
@trevorburton3290
@trevorburton3290 5 месяцев назад
Trust me he has cemented that he will talked about after he retires. Klutch will make sure of that.​@@omieg89
@margincharge3657
@margincharge3657 5 месяцев назад
Great Convo on LeBron. What’s being left out here of the “types of guys that work with LeBron “discussion. The reason LeBron Has to have a certain type of guy to play with him is because there are so many holes in his game. With Jokić, we never ask this question Because he is so lethal offensively. You can’t guard him with just one player. LeBron has never commanded a double team in his entire career. That is why you have to resort to surrounding him with stand still jump shooters, or other guys that can Carry the load offensively. He doesn’t have enough reliable weapons at his disposal if the defense plays him in a certain way or his jumpshot isn’t falling. If you’re truly an all-time great player, we should never have to utter the words “if this or that role player doesnt shoot well then LeBron’s team loses “. Truly all-time great players can find other ways to win even when their role players aren’t hitting.
@jrg46
@jrg46 5 месяцев назад
🚨🚨🚨moron alert🚨🚨🚨
@BM-si2ei
@BM-si2ei 5 месяцев назад
Swing and a miss on this one
@YoungMaster_626
@YoungMaster_626 5 месяцев назад
Facts bro 💯. Lebum is one trick pony
@ashwar3639
@ashwar3639 5 месяцев назад
Lol literally he has been double and triple teamed his whole career, there are reels of videos showing this. You have absolutely no clue about basketball at all. Just in one game footage from any year in his career, you will see step back 3's, post ups, turnaround jumpers, drives to the hoop, reverse layups. spin moves, midrange jumpers, floaters, alley oops, dunks, putbacks....not even mentioning his passing from every possible angle and his reads. Lebron never had a consistent coach and system like the triangle w Tex Winter and Phil Jackson with perfect role players to run that system with him as the focal point. Jordan and Kobe never won before that system and never won after. Lebron has won with different coaches and systems everywhere he has played. I literally just picked a random sampling of games...playoffs, regular season...and EVRY game he is being doubled and triple teamed. 100% wrong comment said w zero knowledge.
@margincharge3657
@margincharge3657 4 месяца назад
@ashwar3639 no he hasn’t. Not in games that matter. Thats why the spurs could guard him with Boris Diaw and the mavs could guard him with JJ barea/deshawn Stevenson and why the warriors could guard him with iguodala. I’m not talking about the charlotte hornets on a random Tuesday night. I’m talking about playoff series when he’s playing a formidable opponent. And yes, LeBron can shoot any shot, but he doesn’t shoot a high enough PERCENTAGE on those shots to rely on them down the stretch of big games. He has shot only 37% outside of 5 feet for his career. Which means teams that are formidable can live with whatever he gets as long as he’s not getting to the basket. He also has been a subpar FT shooter which causes him to run from the FT line at end of games and keeps him from closing out playoff games. See nuggets series last year and this year for examples. Thanks for playing.
@mrhollister8520
@mrhollister8520 5 месяцев назад
LBJ....IS the weakest link. He moved heaven and earth to poach Davis from NOP, and now he needs more help. Give it a break, he's a shot fighter
@cjgonzales8588
@cjgonzales8588 5 месяцев назад
Yeah well he’s also 39 now lmao
@nicoalexander774
@nicoalexander774 5 месяцев назад
As a Dubs fan, I got a lot of respect for LeBron and all that he’s accomplished in his life. That being said, if I’m Jeanie and Rob, under no circumstances can I give him the 3 year max extension he wants this offseason! 💰It’s not a Kobe situation and it’s just bad business. ❤
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt 5 месяцев назад
It was bad business with Kobe too.
@foundationsyth9825
@foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, a 3 year deal for LeBron would benefit the Lakers more than when they gave Kobe that money.
@mgee1723
@mgee1723 5 месяцев назад
@@WorldwideWyatthe earned it
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt 5 месяцев назад
@@mgee1723 whatever, it was still stupid. When Kobe dropped 60 in his last game that was the Lakers 17th win that season. Lebron is never going 17-65…
@leroygunnerman6340
@leroygunnerman6340 5 месяцев назад
@@WorldwideWyattyeah he is gonna get better aged 38 😂
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 5 месяцев назад
Python is the best description of Jokic ever.
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 5 месяцев назад
Would be a dope nickname if he didn’t already have a good one too
@beastmry
@beastmry 5 месяцев назад
Joker the Constrictor
@ErnestTokes
@ErnestTokes 5 месяцев назад
Nic‐boa jokic
@henryhall298
@henryhall298 5 месяцев назад
love the fact that Im not the only one openly Donaghying Scott Foster anyomore lmao
@hardknox1917
@hardknox1917 5 месяцев назад
2014 spurs was best basketball I ever seen and I’m a laker diehard
@eros727
@eros727 5 месяцев назад
Bill, I would include the 2014 Spurs.
@arashtadjiki
@arashtadjiki 5 месяцев назад
2014 spurs tho??
@genesmith3582
@genesmith3582 4 месяца назад
Good call, Bill!
@JonMunitz
@JonMunitz 5 месяцев назад
Lebron has only 3 realistic options this offseason: 1) Accept his player option & announce retirement tour 2) Opt out of player option and sign a 2-3 year deal with LAL or NYK 3) Take a major pay cut to go wherever Bronny gets drafted I think option 2 is the most likely, but I wouldn’t be surprised by him doing 1 or 3.
@mja4wp
@mja4wp 5 месяцев назад
God forbid he comes to Knicks.....
@RASTAGOOB
@RASTAGOOB 5 месяцев назад
@@mja4wpthat sounds good. Add LeBron to what they got, they may get a ring possibly. Idk about the Thibs situation
@seitostockman
@seitostockman 5 месяцев назад
Lebum will keep being a bum and people will keep hyping him up and making excuses for him
@t-god2439
@t-god2439 5 месяцев назад
My only issue and maybe I’m nitpicking but I think part of jokers success is. Comes from the lack of true powerful centers in the league today. And look no further than how Dwight Howard guarded him. That’s the only thing I can think of
@thomass7877
@thomass7877 5 месяцев назад
Thatt was 4 years ago.. Jokic is not the same player. Now he will eat him alive...
@t-god2439
@t-god2439 5 месяцев назад
@@thomass7877 I know that’s why I said nitpick. But ☝️ the question is how does joker kill you? He does it from his playmaking in the post. Yes joker can shoot 3s but he’s not Steph curry or even Seth. But when he goes down low to his spots nobody in the game expect embid or Giannis is strong enough to knock him off his spot. Or prevent him from getting there in the first place. Joker is a throw back big man body wise who can shoot for a big man in an era of small ball jack up 3s
@votdfak
@votdfak 5 месяцев назад
Bubble refs killed Joker not Dwight. LOL
@17NateJohnson
@17NateJohnson 5 месяцев назад
The python analogy is apt.
@lordsangone
@lordsangone 5 месяцев назад
Lebron fatigue is so real. Sure, hes broken the scoring record but hes also broke the losing record as well. He also has the record for most playoff losses, missed shots, turnovers, etc. His longevity is a double-edged sword and like a lot of his fans, he kinda ignores all his bad stats. Lebrons legacy is his longevity but its becoming a big drag.
@johnnythekid4601
@johnnythekid4601 5 месяцев назад
esp the turnovers.. when it comes to his turnovers its always masaging the numbers... "total turnovers dont matter its the assist to turnover ratio that matters" his assist to turnover ratio is lower than insert players name here" when as by jordan they would use and only go by the number of total turnovers he had
@brandonpotts54
@brandonpotts54 5 месяцев назад
If you are the Lakers, you move off LBJ. Keep AD and build around him. That was always supposed to be the point anyway.
@racimegacar
@racimegacar 5 месяцев назад
LBJ just realized last night that he is off from the GOAT race, he is done...
@whiteblaze-rk2ep
@whiteblaze-rk2ep 5 месяцев назад
Yes of course, this series finally did it. As we all know a 40 year old MJ who could barely dunk would've been giving this nuggets team the business😂
@gabrielalele8603
@gabrielalele8603 5 месяцев назад
​@@whiteblaze-rk2ep: Leave MJ out of this. Lebron is the one still playing in this series.
@sauceunlimited
@sauceunlimited 5 месяцев назад
He said like 1,000 times
@portapotty69
@portapotty69 5 месяцев назад
I feel like Jokic is laying the foundation of what will be a strong GOAT argument. The fact that he swept LeBron twice will probably edge him past LeBron in the all time rankings, if he continues to be a walking triple double for another five years or more.
@trevorburton3290
@trevorburton3290 5 месяцев назад
Its so funny because people act like Lebron is some unsurpassable player. Counting stats he will hold onto forever, but I can see a guy like Jokic getting like 3 rings at least and that just out does the rings lebron has outside of 2016.
@nicholasjohnson8428
@nicholasjohnson8428 5 месяцев назад
lol good lord some you casual NBA fans are bad
@Rooski245
@Rooski245 5 месяцев назад
This is the reason no one takes bill Simmons serious. If it’s not a biased take, this dude spews the most casual nonsense.
@jmilkie44
@jmilkie44 5 месяцев назад
Why are you watching him on RU-vid if you don’t like his opinions? There’s millions of basketball videos on here?
@jmilkie44
@jmilkie44 5 месяцев назад
I think YOU should start a basketball podcast and become more successful than bill. If Bill is a casual compared to you then you’ll have zero problem!
@jeffreyroedel9804
@jeffreyroedel9804 5 месяцев назад
I think Lebron plays 2 more seasons. I think he wants to retire with gas still in the tank and walk away as still, arguably, a Top 10-15 player in the league., still an all-star level player. I think he wants to retire with a lot of people saying "man he could have played another year or two for sure!"....And I could see him taking a small discount on a contract but nothing drastic like taking 2 million. I could see him signing a 1-year deal for $20 million somewhere that Bronny is playing or is a contender.
@vanslang5385
@vanslang5385 5 месяцев назад
To put a regular season winning streak over all of the 90’s Bulls title teams deserves more than an asterisk
@chaunt100
@chaunt100 5 месяцев назад
Jokic is nowhere near Magic or Bird. He hasn't eclipsed Hakeem Shaq or Duncan
@MrSheduur
@MrSheduur 5 месяцев назад
I hope he opts out and finally leaves the Lakers alone. With Lebron, the Lakers have had six seasons with just one relevant season which ended in the bubble title thanks to AD and team chemistry. The other 5 seasons they had 2 where they did not even make the playoffs, and three in which they barely made the playoffs to then get bounced in the first round and soon it will be TWO sweeps of them. It is time to cut ties. Either let him walk himself so he can save face, or simply wait till he opts in and then trade him after that. The Lakers deserve a shot to build around AD with younger talent...
@manz7860
@manz7860 5 месяцев назад
Let lebron walk. Target Donovan Mitchell who is pretty clearly unhappy in cleveland
@Sam19509
@Sam19509 5 месяцев назад
Where did Bill find this guy? At the Bus stop?😂😂
@garyspence2128
@garyspence2128 5 месяцев назад
Too bad you weren't there to share your profound insights...
@ThePenitentSquirrel
@ThePenitentSquirrel 5 месяцев назад
Lebron is in the Muhammed Ali vs. Larry Holmes era of his career.
@twilitezn
@twilitezn 5 месяцев назад
More like Apollo Creed vs. Ivan Drago : "THROW THE DAMN TOWEL!!!"
@trespatines305
@trespatines305 5 месяцев назад
Miami Heat fan here but how can you leave out the 2014 Spurs?!
@MrMathsimon
@MrMathsimon 5 месяцев назад
Hey how about the celtics losing game 2?
@michaelmarlowjr7896
@michaelmarlowjr7896 5 месяцев назад
Dense D will be in LA next year. That doesn’t guarantee success but he from West Coast. He’s way better and consistent that D lo. His mid range is great 3-5 3’s a game. He gonna give you 20-25 a night efficiently. Not injured a lot. D lo and Rudy with one of those picks.
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 5 месяцев назад
If Lebron is still there it won’t matter. He’ll be the scapegoat once things go south! Dense D will be scared for life!
@thomasbrown8816
@thomasbrown8816 5 месяцев назад
Denver wins one championship. Is beating the 7th seed who are the lakers in the first round, and Now they are one of the best teams of the century! Come on man. Shit has to stop.
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog 5 месяцев назад
Second is coming.
@thomasbrown8816
@thomasbrown8816 4 месяца назад
@@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog are you still this confident in the Nugget’s?
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog 4 месяца назад
@@thomasbrown8816 hell no 😂. Minnesota is kicking their behind....
@Heywoodjablome1964
@Heywoodjablome1964 5 месяцев назад
If Denver doesn’t figure out the first half problem they aren’t winning it all. Not everyone will choke the 3rd quarter like the Lakers do
@pillcosby3949
@pillcosby3949 5 месяцев назад
Totally agree.. I live in Denver and local media are like “we’re not even playing good and we’re still winning” I’m like yea that should be a concern that we aren’t playing good
@markmittens
@markmittens 5 месяцев назад
how are the spurs not on the list of best teams when they destroyed the team Bill said was great
@danielwebb8402
@danielwebb8402 5 месяцев назад
Because times 1 only?
@justdl
@justdl 5 месяцев назад
Fake retirement to do his sleight of hand like last year's sweep.
@HerbHerman-le5ux
@HerbHerman-le5ux 5 месяцев назад
Can someone please explain why jokic gets a pass for the postseason without Murray but Giannis doesn’t get that for his without Middleton in 22? I mean the guy avg. 34 15 7 against Celtics in 7 game series
@IanIvey
@IanIvey 5 месяцев назад
Because MPJ was also out... and the rest of the roster was so bad that most of them are out of the league now. Will Barton, Bryn Forbes, Austin Rivers, JaMychal Green, Facundo Campazzo...
@pillcosby3949
@pillcosby3949 5 месяцев назад
Who gives him a pass? Also look at his numbers during those 2 playoff runs where his second best player was will barton
@razkable
@razkable 4 месяца назад
2016 warriors won 73 games they up there
@dimitrijetucovic1307
@dimitrijetucovic1307 5 месяцев назад
It's just basketball, who cares? 😃😃😃
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn 5 месяцев назад
LeQuitter
@djvishusv
@djvishusv 5 месяцев назад
You cared enough to troll...so you.
@howardhill3395
@howardhill3395 5 месяцев назад
I wish AD would emulate Jokic in terms of providing more assists. This would add a very important dimension to AD's game & would help keep the whole Laker team engaged. Also AD would then become a triple threat in terms of points, assists and rebounds
@SinkrSwim
@SinkrSwim 5 месяцев назад
Aaron Gordon > Paul Millsap KCP > Gary Harris MPJ > Will Barton 29 y/o Jokic > 25 y/o Jokic 27 y/o Murray > 23 y/o Murray And wait for the Wolves series for Watson and Braun to shine. Different around Jokic too.
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 4 месяца назад
Lakers and LeBron need to part ways this off-season.
@ETLLoos
@ETLLoos 4 месяца назад
Why not PG3 to the Lakers? I’m not a cap expert but it seems they have enough flexibility to make it work, and he’d be an incredible fit next to LBJ and AD. If they had him I think they beat Denver this year.
@uniquitybased
@uniquitybased 5 месяцев назад
Liked the teams of the century bill
@FaridRashid-qi7pf
@FaridRashid-qi7pf 5 месяцев назад
Cry m3 a river lebron time has been up !!! Ya.keep trying it's! Its over!!!!
@Creamcity414
@Creamcity414 5 месяцев назад
No Denver’s not on those old warriors and beat levels stop it bill
@Hoopculture24
@Hoopculture24 5 месяцев назад
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Jokic is better than Olajuwon!
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg 5 месяцев назад
My list is Russell, MJ, Lebron, Duncan, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem, Wilt and Jerry West. So Jokic can finish his career at 4th, 5th or 6th place on my list to be honest.
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog
@dejan.zivkovic.psiholog 5 месяцев назад
Yes it is🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Skyfall22
@Skyfall22 5 месяцев назад
@@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hgRussell? lol.
@YoungMaster_626
@YoungMaster_626 5 месяцев назад
@@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hgKobe shits in all of them except mj
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg 5 месяцев назад
@@Skyfall22 Why not
@sparkybuchta8717
@sparkybuchta8717 5 месяцев назад
LBJ already working on his signing with the timberwolves / nuggets / thunder or Celtics
@Cldyefrog12
@Cldyefrog12 5 месяцев назад
The 2014 Spurs should be on the all century list.
@teejaye6226
@teejaye6226 5 месяцев назад
what reward do the Lakers get by winning on Saturday? A pissed off Nuggets team back home in Denver only to get embarrassed in Game 5 and fly back to LA???......Nope, Lakers are wanting this series over Saturday.
@davidtrotter3836
@davidtrotter3836 5 месяцев назад
Everyone talks about James when the best player is on the other team. Everyone thought the Celtics were unbeatable? No. But Denver is close.
@chez0102
@chez0102 5 месяцев назад
The only team I see LeBron pushing over the top is the knicks
@nadavegan
@nadavegan 5 месяцев назад
@15:02 "unless the league really intervenes". He knows how the NBA works.
@ricardoflores8114
@ricardoflores8114 5 месяцев назад
2013 Spurs should've beat the 13 heat and DID demolish them in 2014. That's the greatest team of this century
@mazzb305
@mazzb305 5 месяцев назад
Bill is underestimating Minnesota. They are uniquely built to beat Denver and are clicking right now. That’s gonna be a tough series.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 5 месяцев назад
Lakers added no one to guard jokic. Stupid. People dont realize after lakers eliminated nuggets they pickup up aaron gordon next year.
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 5 месяцев назад
That's it exactly. The Lakers don't have a big body to bang against Jokic. Going back to 202 when the Lakers beat the Nuggets, Dwight Howard was out muscling Jokic and took him out of his game. That was coming after a series where Jokic as grabbing every rebound against the Clippers with Montrel as their center. Everyone in the league is trying to play small ball and Jokic is just sitting back saying: "Good luck with that."
@jonz23m
@jonz23m 5 месяцев назад
What are you talking about? Ever heard of AD? Who do you want Jokic to defend who could do it better than the top 3 defender in the league? Stop looking for new players and fix the team chemistry, that's the only thing that seperates the nuggets from the Lakers
@jonz23m
@jonz23m 5 месяцев назад
@@Davivd2 they led twice by double digits going into the 4th quarter. Jokic didn't even score a lot in this series. Yall live in a parallel universe. Lakers just choked, Dwight wouldn't have changed that.
@wadehenderson1081
@wadehenderson1081 5 месяцев назад
Lmao. What a shit take. There isn't a body in the world who can guard Jokic.
@votdfak
@votdfak 5 месяцев назад
@@Davivd2 That's fucking stupid. Bubble refs killed Joker not Dwight. He was punished with made up fouls the whole series.
@jflack6
@jflack6 5 месяцев назад
3 best teams this century? No 86 Celts? 96 or 98 Bulls? 14 Spurs? 2003 Kings? C’mon now.
@michaelweber4275
@michaelweber4275 5 месяцев назад
You do realize the Celtics and bulls were not this century.
@JonMunitz
@JonMunitz 5 месяцев назад
The only non-Lakers teams I could see due to contracts (assuming he doesn’t take massive pay cut) & competitiveness are the Knicks, Thunder, Magic, 76ers, and Rockets (if they can dump Jeff Green & Jock Landale for no return salary). I think he stays in LA but if he leaves I think it’s going to be for the Thunder or Knicks.
@solefob
@solefob 5 месяцев назад
such prisoner in the moment observations. this denver team is not better than any team that’s won a championship in the 2000s & 2010s. they are dominating this era of parity because their roster is so complementary of each other in comparison to the rest of the league.
@mr.e347
@mr.e347 5 месяцев назад
2001 Lakers never had real competition. Blazers were washed already, Spurs wasnt loaded as in 2005 and then Sacramento Queens. Iverson 76ers won 55 games on a pathetic East. Spurs 14 and Warriors were best teams imo.
@strivingforthekingdoment.2303
@strivingforthekingdoment.2303 5 месяцев назад
14 spurs best team this century
@drewland6140
@drewland6140 5 месяцев назад
Didn’t Jordan’s Bulls 3 peat 2x ? What is this guy talking about 😂😂😂
@Wick9876
@Wick9876 5 месяцев назад
Not in this century, no.
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 5 месяцев назад
Jokic: Winning is a lifestyle
@mja4wp
@mja4wp 5 месяцев назад
gangster
@dullestpenguin4151
@dullestpenguin4151 5 месяцев назад
Jokic plays basketball the way a great quarterback does, he reads the defense and makes the correct play based on each situation.
@jamesbingham1007
@jamesbingham1007 5 месяцев назад
You watch, Rui will have a big game and Reeves wil have a few threes. And, yet, Davis will have 11 points and 13 rebounds and the Lakers will pull their starters.
@Creamcity414
@Creamcity414 5 месяцев назад
You can tell Jay never watched Lebron throughout his career
@YoungMaster_626
@YoungMaster_626 5 месяцев назад
Because Lebum is boring to watch
@SamuelBlackMetalRider
@SamuelBlackMetalRider 5 месяцев назад
I’m a Nuggets fan & Jokic worshipper and I’m not even THAT 💯 % sure they’ll win a 2nd ring!
@omieg89
@omieg89 5 месяцев назад
It’s a bad look for Lebron to be swept by Denver. Yes, Denver has the best player in the world and Lebron is 39. But when Lebron was the best player in the world, he wasn’t sweeping the old ass Celtics or sweeping the old ass Spurs.
@joshuaperry733
@joshuaperry733 5 месяцев назад
Ummmm 2008-2009 Lakers. 65-17 in a stacked west. They’d eat these Nuggets alive. 50 wins for you the 6th seed that year and the Lakers walked the west.
@boxxbros8440
@boxxbros8440 5 месяцев назад
I think Minnesota is the only team in the west that could upset cuz they have the bigs to go at jokic
@plefevre
@plefevre 5 месяцев назад
Kyrie is riding high right now because A, he's not doing anything stupid off the court for a change and B, most importantly, he's on the same team as Luka Doncic. He's playing really well, don't get me wrong, but he's not a difference maker win-wise.
@luciandeloware
@luciandeloware 5 месяцев назад
Please do a what’s next for AD and Devin Booker
@scarletspider1240
@scarletspider1240 5 месяцев назад
Jokic will end his career someday having accomplished far more than James ever has. And sadly, he’ll never be celebrated and put on a pedestal like James has been. But in a way, that just makes Jokic more likable…do you job…do your business…win championships…and go home.
@tomcustis9272
@tomcustis9272 5 месяцев назад
Just wait til the summer and laker fans are saying they’ll trade rui and a future first for booker and Beal, who cares if the money works it’s gonna happen!
@mak23997
@mak23997 5 месяцев назад
I want to listen to this guy but similar to an 80's valley girl he can't stop saying "like". Totally ruined it for me. Like, how is this guy on TV/radio?
@ollytropics1735
@ollytropics1735 5 месяцев назад
They didnt want carrusso long term he offered to take a pay cut
@StephanLamar81
@StephanLamar81 5 месяцев назад
The league in trouble if Luka & Joker ever team up
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 5 месяцев назад
Tbh I don’t know if it would be a great combination with the way Luka plays. He’d have to drastically reduce his usage rate and he wouldn’t have the ball in his hands nearly as much. Idk, would be cool to see but I think Jokic running the offense would reduce Luka to more of an off ball player which isn’t really his strength. He’d also have to replace MPJ, Murray or Gordon. Luka would be a much better fit with someone like Wemby IMO. Luka can be a point forward and him getting doubled would open up tons of easy looks for Wemby. A Luka/Wemby pick and roll would be damn near impossible to guard
@wadehenderson1081
@wadehenderson1081 5 месяцев назад
The Nuggets dont want Luka. This is not how basketball works. 🤣This is a straight from the Lakers thinking though.
@StephanLamar81
@StephanLamar81 5 месяцев назад
@@wadehenderson1081 yeah, not now, but I’d be shocked if Denver stay as is for the next 3 years
@buenjames
@buenjames 5 месяцев назад
He should sign for the nuggets. Run the 2nd unit, get a couple of rings
@sonnynguyen9103
@sonnynguyen9103 5 месяцев назад
By now, everyone should know that Lebron can’t carry a team. He gotta play with closers like Kyrie or Ray Allen who can make clutch shots to bail him out. If it wasn’t for those guys, lebron would not have all those rings.
@simonhicks9323
@simonhicks9323 5 месяцев назад
He has enough money he should do what most old players do - go join a team with multiple stars become the facilitator, the third option for a low contract and try and get to the finals again
@genefernandofaelnar8300
@genefernandofaelnar8300 5 месяцев назад
Who was defending Gordon?
@Sam19509
@Sam19509 5 месяцев назад
That is title of the next movie produced by SpringHill Company.😂😂
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