I actually like the beefy look of big air coolers as it gives the impression that the rig means business. Another reason I felt discouraged about AIO's when building my first PC is due to people on Facebook constantly commenting on other people's systems about how they did not rotate the pump/pipes right.
AIOs aren't really any better than a good air cooler until you start getting to the expensive side. Your generic ones have cold plates that barely or don't even cover the CPU/GPU, bad restriction problems from cheap rads, or pumps with bad flowrate and/or lift and fail miserably in what they try to achieve. The big bulky air coolers, tbh though are just as bad. After Zalmann came out with the heatpipe technology.. there really isn't anywhere left to go with them that makes anything any "better" except better fans. And that goes for BOTH air vs AIO.. which is why you'll see Thermaltake, Corsair and Noctua at the top of either. (3 best fans out right now) Even high end custom loops are limited by their fan capabilities, though. There's a bit more to it when delving into custom.. such as FPI and coldplates and fins.. but at that point, you're really min/maxxing
Benefits of the aios aren’t meant to increase performance on the lower end he’s right but they are quieter, more efficient at pushing the heat out of the case because it pushes it right out instead of back into the case, and they are also if you want your pc to look more sleek. You aren’t going to get any significant performance gain from an aio.
I agree. I've been using a NH D-15 up until my current build, I run an Intel i5 xx600k with an overclock and the Noctua was good. Only reason I swapped to an AIO was it's slightly quieter., I did notice a very slight improvement on other component temps, I think because there's less mass blocking/deflecting the front to rear airflow. These differences are small though, they weren't anywhere near critical with the mighty Noctua.
Just got my first pc put together and your channel has really been to god send. Currently running a i7 with AIO water cooler haven’t really tested it out but hopefully it all goes well
Good Vid, I have used both Air & Liquid cooling with equal sucess, these days I like the new Liquid coolers because of the LCD temp display on some of them, I would think this would be a very useful utility.
I've always had air coolers, I might go with AIO in the future just for something different and try something new, but for me air works fine. Just got a new PC with an AMD 5800x and a Deepcool AK500 air cooler. So far so good, but you're not wrong when you say they are big, especially in a compact size case like I have.
One of the best straightforward and honest answer videos I've ever seen. Really well done. And keep being yourself, you're hilarious. So tired of all the "pro" videos out there that sleight of hand their answers to support their sponsors and put obviously better fans on an air cooler to try to "show" a different result and mislead so many people just trying to find an answer. Happily subscribed, and will be my newest goto video to give to people who want to learn. Very well done. All the "pros" could take a few lessons from ya, my dude.
I have the NH-U12A on my 12600k (it was the only LGA 1700 cooler I could get reasonably quickly the time). At stock, it ran at about 78C during cinebench, but after some overclocking the cooler got to its limits fairly quickly.
For me the Noctua NH-D15S (on my i7-5930K) because the second fan of a NH-D15 is not needed and onley produces more noice, faster fan speeds and no extra cooling.
Thanks for that. I have a 13700k and wanted to go full noctua build without having to cap the cpu but if you're hitting 78c on a 13600k, I think I'll stick with a aio.
This video is actually perfect time. Just got a new pc with a R5 5600x and temps idle at 55-65 while with cyberpunk it reaches 85-97. Thank you so much
I swear a lot of times I think Marcus could be a comedian😂😂😂. I have 4 fans in my PC(not counting the CPU cooler) all set to PWM, I hear slight noise, but only when I listen closely, I don’t mind it, just glad it’s not loud.
Atm I'd give it to Air Cooling up to a certain cpu. Had a Air Cooler on my 7800x3d kept it at 72 on HD2 mid 50s on older games. Went with a 420mm for aesthetics/better cooling. Currently HD2 hits 80 still low 50s on older game's. Yes it's more pleasing on the eye with the AOI but the Air Cooler was doing the better job. Still thinking it over as I thought the AIO would/should of been better than my Air set up. May end up selling the AIO and getting the Air Cooler back in 😆
They ain't loud, that's not the problem with em. The main problem with em is that they gather dust and loose performance really fast if you forget to clean em. Yes I am here in hope that you will explain the real difference between a good quality cooler and liquid cooling, like do I really need to change or is it just time to get a better cpu.
i decided to get a 240mm aio cooler for my 12600KF, might be a overkill but it stays nice and cool at around 25 degrees idle and 35-50 in games (depending on what game it is)
I just stumble on your channel. Love the content and presentation. I can see myself into this cuz I loved PCs back in the day and still do but never make it from that.
I had a my 5950x setup with a custom loop and it ran about 10 degrees hotter then my current setup of a Corsair h115 elite 240. Blew my mind but I was tired of the maintenance on the custom loop to change components
Does custom loop needs maintenance at 2 or 3 months intervals? I am thinking of doing one from a store but it is very far away from my home and I can't go there often with that complex and heavy system. And by maintenance I mean what kind of maintenance does it need? Sorry I didn't researched a lot abt custom loop so if u tell me it'll be helpful.
@@samareshdas767 the maintenance it requires is basically changing the coolant every 6 to 12 months depending on the usage. No u don't need to replace components unless of course is personal preference.
Just think about this for a minute, he puts so much effort into his videos, that he makes learning the most complicated and frustrating things about PCs……FUN🤯🤯🤯 Anyway, thanks for guiding me through building a PC and keep up the good work.
I mean everything depends on whether or not your gonna overlock or if you want it quiet or easy to maintain. So like air cooling is more beginner friendly but if your more experienced you should go for water
as long as it doesn’t involved any liquid would be best. i want to use the pc not waste my time changing coolant or tweaking the insides of a pc just so i can feel good seeing a couple of numbers go lower. the pc works for me i dont work for the pc.
I would love to do a custom loop PC but I prefer to buy the latest hardware and my budget doesn't stretch enough to justify the difference in cost over standard top of the range water cooling such corsair offers. Plus I can't afford the risk of killing my PC due to water leak, not to mention the risk of electrocution if it was to leak.
@@DarthJeremy364 just in case your asking me no I did not. The noctua nhu12s is a 158mm making this a somewhat compact but yet efficient cooler. The meshify c has a max cpu height of 172mm giving you plenty of clearance. You would need to be sure you have that 1 and not the meshify 2 to be sure. I do now have a different cooler I'm using and my nhu12s is just sitting in the box with a 2nd fan. Unfortunately my cpu Temps were a bit higher than I liked with a 5950x. Lol (new cpu)
i looked at aio for a while glad i went air cooler. my fuma scythe 2 with dual sickleflow v2 rgb fans my 5600x at 4.7ghz never exceeds 45-50c in game, idle temps are 30-33c
I'm super happy with the MSI 360S Coreliquid. It keeps this 12900K chill even in 5.1GHz OCC. With my previous AIO (not gonna give names) I was hitting 69 Celsius with a 7960X NO OCC. With Coreliquid 360S I stay around 56Celsius with the 12900K@5.1GHz.Custom Water cooling is too much head each for me
What's the difference between hydro cooling vs water cooling? Do I need it? I just upgraded to customized PC with max specs. Interior Lighting : iCUE LC100 Smart Case Lighting Triangles iCUE RGB Lighting with CORSAIR NODE PRO Processors : Intel Core i9-12900KS 16-Cores 4GHz (5.5GHz TurboBoost) Motherboard : ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO DDR5 Memory : 64GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 (2x32GB) 5200MHz System Cooling : CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX LCD Display - White System Fans : CORSAIR QL White Fans iCUE RGB controlled by iCUE software Graphics Cards : NVIDIA 24GB GeForce RTX 3090 Ti Operating System : MS Windows 11 Home Operating System Drive : CORSAIR 500GB MP600 Gen4 Hard Drive : 4TB Samsung 870 QVO Series Power Supply : CORSAIR AX1600i ATX Titanium This setup cost me roughly around $7600. Do I need a hydro cooling system?
is your case the corsair 7000d case ,, i see it has 4 front case fans , i have not seen a case like your ,, do you know if they still make computer case
I just got a Capellix elite for my new 11th gen i5. My first time using one, I just had a single fan on my older 4690 i5. If nothing else, it looks really nice, ha ha. Also I have it set up as an exhaust on the top of my case. If I ever decide I want to have my AIO set up as an intake I'll buy a bigger one with 3 fans and have it on the front of my case. Honestly when that time comes though, I'll probably do a custom loop and have one at the top and bottom (my case is a corsair 680x, so it supports fans on the bottom of the case as well. I bought it specifically for it's airflow, after the disaster my old NZXT was on airflow)
Just finished my first build and was disappointed when I turned it on my cpu was 100 degrees and I found out the intel stock cooler clips had broken - very frustrating 😢
I went with a white 240 corsair rgb aio,though i was tempted to go with a fan and heat-sink setup for a reliable solution but looks and performance of the aio got the better of me custom loop is something i would like to do with the next pc i build .
Arctic freezer II 240mm aio on my 5800x paired with a 3070. that thing sits at 33c on idle on power saver mode and about 36c on high performance. In games it doesnt really matter since I play mostly less demanding older titles and occasionally a AAA title.
Most people cannot plumb their own custom liquid cooling PCs. The AIO liquid CPU coolers were supposed to be that happy middle ground compromise. The issue I have with these AIO kits is they tend to fail just outside of 2 years just beyond warranty. I went through 2 Corsair 110i AIO kits, an Arctic and a Thermaltake AIO kits. Until the manufacturers guarantee their AIOs with 5 year warranties, I am staying with massive oversized air cooler blocks
I was going to do air again with this upgrade cycle, but now I'm leaning toward water-cooled for the CPU simply because pretty much all of the air coolers that can somewhat keep up with water coolers don't have enough clearance for advanced RAM. I mean, who has 32mm ram anymore?! lol. I have a pretty large case and even adjusting the fan a bit isn't possible because it already fills up all of the height it can at standard height.
I’ve never had a car that didn’t leak fluids. I’ll stick with air. ;)my pc goes under the desk in any case with the window next to the wall. Not much to look at.
Got my cpu upgrade cooler today. The Noctua NH-U12A. Now that i have seen it... i hope i can fit it in the case :o Ends up rely Close to glass sidecover it looks like. Possible overkill for the older Ryzen 7 5800 (Not X) how ever i get tops of 85 degrees celcius just from 1440p gta5 online and world of warships.
Cryo-PC CPC-ZA91, Low-profile RGB UFO CPU Cooler with RGB Fan and Lights for Intel/AMD LGA 1700/1200/1156/1155/1151/1150 AM2/AM3. can ya do one with this cpu heatsink
Guess that is my goal to upgrade my setup this year: save 1000€ for a new case and the most overkill custom RGB water-cooling. But since I have a FE 4080 I most likely will only water cool the CPU. My GPU rarely goes past 55°C NVIDIA really overkilled the cooling but honestly, I like it.
