So many haters and whiners here. Just test drive them all and buy whatever you feel the best. These guys just provide review based on their own experience. It is all subjective.
I have a 2018 Pacifica and LOVE it! With 287 hp, seamless tranny, and excellent handling, it’s a blast to drive. Stow and go seats make for a cavernous cargo area big enough to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood lying flat on the floor without removing any sheets. For me, the ride is just right. Very comfortable but not so soft as to ruin the handling but not so firm as to wear you out on a long drive and the turning radius is so tight you could practically run into yourself. The only problem I’ve had was a failed spark plug, but that’s not the van’s fault and it was quickly diagnosed and replaced at an independent garage. Anyway, please at least test drive a Pacifica. I think you might really like it.
@@doThatGWalk I actually thought the Pacifica drove the worst. Handling was too light and acceleration was god awful. I do like the accessibility of the stow n go seats but thats about it. I have a 2019 Odyssey EX and it's been great so far. Great acceleration (that's why it is the "quickest" minivan in its class lol) and pretty good handling. Again, any of these options are fine, it all depends on what you're looking for.
@@doThatGWalk there is $7,500 tax credit on Pacifica Hybrid none on Sienna Hybrid. Plus the 30 miles before using gasoline will cover most hauling to and from the school. Stow n go is only lost on 2nd row which actually have thicker padding as they are not folding into floor.
I’d try to find an honest dealer. My dealership isn’t selling anything over MSRP even special edition 392 wranglers. We are still selling everything UNDER MSRP.
Good review but I think reliability and resale value are more important than a vacuum, not in the consideration. Also I know they are not given a choice of trim levels but you can't base the value fairly like that. A base Toyota Sienna is close to $23,000 less than the top of the line with the same drivetrain and body!
It's already a given. Toyota and Honda will be more reliable. With Toyota having the better resale value. Do keep in mind, when I say that, I'm talking about the company overall. Kia and Chrysler/dodge were/are known to not be reliable. But they have gotten a bit better throughout the years. At the end of the day, choose one you like,and as long as you take care of it. It should last a long time. Unless you get unlucky.
Anybody that that thinks KIA/Hyundia have poor reliability hasn't done research since the early to mid 2000's. I do own a 2000 Tacoma with 250k and a 2012 Honda Odyssey that just rolled 125k relatively low maintenance miles. I would never consider a new Tacoma based on their quickly falling reliability ratings and user reported issues but I would still consider the Sienna when it comes time to replace my Odyssey, but most likely I will be going with the KIA for the bang-for-the-buck and their reliability.
My CompanyVan is a 2020, Voyger, Pacifica’s cheaper sister, just drove it from Southerb West Virginia to Salt Lake City Utah, 27 hour trip, averaged 30 mpg, very comfortable, across Wyoming with wind never felt any blowing. Only complaint sometime shifting out of over drive into a lower gear, felt and heard it. Would definitely buy this van!
We're you driving the whole time? I just rode around for 10 days in a voyager and I found it SUPER uncomfortable... but the difference could be that the passenger seat doesn't adjust AT ALL. I was surprised and annoyed because I've never seen a van that DIDN'T have adjustable seats for the passenger... so it felt like something had been taken away. Lol
After 10 years, only two of these will outlive the others still running at peak performance.... and my Sienna and Odyssey family can relate to this! He he he he =D
Yeah this review video is a total joke. This couple is just a couple of entitled rich brats reviewing the luxury aspects of sub-par vehicles. “How Pretty Should It Be” should be the title.
Stow-N-Go is cool, if you only want to sit on glorified beach chairs with seat belts. The Carnival runs away with all the features, but I'm assuming most families will really have peace of mind with reliability in the Sienna. That hybrid system is bulletproof.
no one buys a mini van to sit in the middle seats. They buy them for the space and flexibility and Stow-N-Go is the game changer dodge wins every time. I can't believe no other mini van offers folding middle seats.
Toyota has been recalling Prius hybrid system for decades and sometimes to replace the same thing like inverters, multiple times. It is far from bulletproof.
@@normt430 that's an interesting statistic, and sounds great, only because Toyota has been producing hybrids for decades to have recalls for decades. Most recalls have been software related or for things like the spare tires. Toyota hybrids aren't spontaneously combusting or rolling over on themselves.
@@mumwifeteacher the reason is Dodge has the patent for folding your seats in the floor. Like toyota has the patent for full rear window up and down in their trucks.
I love minivans because with these types of cars it seems like the manufacturers actually care based on the little things, like a vacuum ,the power sliding doors, multi directional rear seats, and the amenities all make minivans worth the money.
The Toyota Sienna wins in MPG, build quality and the fact that it's simply a Toyota - the highest quality car maker right now. It's pretty laughable to not buy it for some of the reasons they highlighted on here.
My Sienna, is a 100% hopeless POS full of rattle&squeak from all parts. It started ratting from 200 miles and dealer says it’s normal! I will buy my next Sienna ONLY if Toyota allow me to assembly it by myself in their factory!!
Went to look at a new Sienna. I was excited about the AWD and MPGs. Didn’t get out of the parking spot. Wife hated the dash, center console, armrests, reach to the infotainment, no where to stash the purse once seated, rear seat comfort, etc, etc.
@@KT_One She couldn't find that big wide open pan right below the console? That's where my wife sticks her purse and she carries what I consider a backpack.
@@normt430 i used to get 18-19mpg on my 2017 Sienna. Now I get 37-38. Same stlye of driving. I live in LA. It works best on traffic. Just full EV mode on 20 mins of traffic
@@normt430 They put it on sport mode and drive it like a scalded dog. Driving like that and still getting over 30 is an accomplisment. If you put it in ECO, it turns on EV mode by default and frankly, why would anyone not drive it in EV mode, which can be enabled in all driving modes? EV mode enables the electric motor to run on its own if it's able to propel the vehicle without the need of the gas engine. I'd be interested in the last time you saw any professional tester of an enthusiast rag get anywhere close to the EPA MPG.
I’d rather have superior protection for my love ones in the second row with advance seat airbags in the Sienna. Plus, it’s the most durable of all the minivans. Those two screens in the Pacifica are laggy and you should instead get your kids iPads. Who still watches DVDs anyway when you have Netflix, Disney, and RU-vid?!?! Sienna is the only hybrid that has AWD.
Agree with you, why bother with second row not being removable... (which they are if you really need to... 4 bolt...) you buy a minivan to move people with cargo, not to use as a pick-up truck or a Panel. If i need that much room for 4x8 plywood, i'll take my trailer with me, that's all. Hybrid + AWD with 35 MPG is the deciding factor for me, which is for me a lot more important than smooth material that serves no purpose at all. I also hate that they always compare the top model, which very few people buy anyway, I'd rather see a most popular model comparaison, which is normally the mid trim level. If you need two children screen, buy a set of Amazon tablets at 250$ and let them play with it, they dont reach the front seat with their tiny arms anyway... Also, misleading info from her, saying that there's anoying noise from the CVT... there no ''CVT'' in the Sienna, no belt, no clutch, no slipage whatsoever. It's a single planetary gear set with 2 electric motor... what you hear is simply the engine reving up.
@@andresamson8859 I agree with you, the Sienna is by far the smarter choice. The planetary gear set coupled with an electric motor is what Toyota called an eCVT that is very different and significantly more durable than a normal CVT that uses belts or chains and pulleys like what you can find Nissans and Subarus. But you’re right CVTs doesn’t make noises, it is the engine that makes all that noise. Those two so called car journalists should be reviewing potatoes instead of cars.
@@TheGomezIndustries cup holders and USB port seems a lot more important than safety, cost of ownership and reliability. Have you heard them talk about braking distance or avoidance aid system ? No… they talk about tune button’s feel
Most don't need AWD and the Pacifica Hhbrid gets +80 mpge and 30 miles before gas is used. Toyota cannot match that! Plus that $7,500 fed tax credit makes it the smartest choice.
@@normt430 it depends on what’s your situation. 30 mile becomes 20ish in winter, and is estimated to 23 miles on highway during summer. On a 200 mile route, tester has end up with 31 MPG (including the 20ish first free miles provided by the PHEV). So doing the math, it did about 29MPG once the gaz engine kicked in, compared to 36MPG for the Sienna. In my case, i live in Quebec, so AWD is definitly a must, and i do 60 miles everyday to go to work, plus very often longer than that on weekend. So again doing the math, I get about the same total fuel consumption during the week, better during weekend, i dont have to bother plugin it in everyday and i’ve got awd. But again, it all depends on your situation, both are great product, but for different applications
A minivan without removable 2nd row seats. Sorry, but that's stupid. I'm out. With Toyota's access to top notch engineers, you cannot tell me that they couldn't have figured out how to have the 2nd row seat air bags that would have an adapter/plug, with which the owner could easily disconnect (disengage) and reconnect (engage) so as to easily remove/install the seats. SIMPLY INEXCUSABLE.
Went on road trips with all the vans except for the carnival, and I’ll say our favorite by far was the odyssey. The back captain chairs on the Pacifica aren’t very comfortable. The sienna gets amazing gas mileage but sometimes the engine really struggles getting on the highway when you have pass people on the road. The odyssey feels purpose built, family hauler with interior materials that are made for longevity.
We purchased a Pacifica in 2022. We liked the Kia and Honda. Both were asking for a premium in addition to full list price and the Kia dealer was asking for a $10,000 premium and would only order the top configuration, Which we didn’t want … who needs reclining rear seats.? The top Kia configuration plus the up charge meant about $25,000 more than the Pacifica. it was easy to walk away from the Kia And As an older couple, my back really loves the stow go seats in the Pacifica.
Lol 😂 they hate so much the Toyota, but the Toyota is the best in this category. 35 mpg just a big wow factor. You will save so much money 💰. The 2nd row are not removable because they have integrated airbag compare to the others that doesn’t have 2nd seat airbag only door airbags. Regarding the entertainment at that price you can buy 2 apple tablets with their support and save money by doing that. Regarding the comfort Toyota seats are so comfortable compared to other van. Regarding keeping their value Sienna is the best.
These people don't know anything at all. They just say buzzwords that don't mean anything. They don't even bother to look for the settings or anything . I know for a fact you can adjust the touch screen sensitivity on the 2021 oysessey. The 9 speed auto and 3.5 v6 makes 300 hp... I bet they left it in eco mode. Also gonna add they more firm the suspension, the better that handling even tho it's less comfortable. The softer the suspension the worse it will handle and it be more like a boat. Seriously horrible video.
Dear lord... so much complaining, criticizing, and ripping apart these vans, which really are fine overall. I've had a Sienna and an Odyssey and thought they were both fine. Neither was perfect and each had minor issues, but they are both good in their own right. I test drove the Carnival as well and was very impressed with it! On another note, does anyone else remember the days when we were happy with a decent car that got us from one place to another? And that was the point of having a car! I have hdmi in my car and have absolutely no idea what it even does!! We don't even use it!
I think you’re missing the entire point of this comparison video. It’s a comparison video for a reason: they’re here to point out the good and bad of each van. To me, they’re not complaining as much as they’re observing. If all they did was say positive things about every van and nothing negative, then this wouldn’t be a comparison review at all and it would serve absolutely no purpose to minivan buyers.
I think being critical is fine at the price point of modern cars. if you're going to back-in-my-day this I'd say if you told me even 10 years ago $42k was going to be seen as the affordable choice I'd be responding that I didn't know Lexus made a minivan. That these vehicles can blow past $50k is nuts. They darn well should be nitpicked at that cost.
@@americanreality2462 how are they being critical, they are just telling it like it is… The only reason people accepted old car interiors because they were the top of the line of their day and making a car that sells was way simpler back in the 90s than in 2021. Especially since the minivan market is one of the most competitive in the car manufacturing game period…
@@bigpoppa1992 Yes, you're right. But is like the Pacifica just got into the bar. 😆 And the others can hold it's beer too. 😃 The AWD Pacifica is a nice option too for those with snowy winters.
AWD only helps when starting to drive from a stop in snowy conditions. Once you are moving, AWD doesn’t add any safety or handling. Snow tires are WAY more effective. If you actually care, just get snow tires for the winter.
What a load of shit. Odyssey feels slow? It's at least 1 second faster to 60 than the others. Other publications have lauded it's ride quality as well. Seems biased but then again these people are clueless
LOL... yup, they can't believe someone would pick a car for anything more than it's >>predicted" reliability and re-sale value. "Guys, my Toyota is so reliable that I'm going to re-sell it in 5 years!"
Sienna gets the pass right now as No. 1 in Consumer Reports rankings but the KIA Carnival will be stealing that spot soon. With Honda Odyssey not even recommended by CR, the Pacifica Hybrid and $7,500 fed tax credit is the real winner here. The 30 miles on battery and no gas needed will cover most daily kiddo hauling. Make mine the Lexus Sienna, or Pacifica Pinnacle!
Probably the most reliable of all minivans as the new redesigned ones are not and Honda Odyssey, while being oldest, is not recommended by Consumer Reports.
I have Sienna XLE and front seats adjust up and down just fine. You can sit as low as in sport car. Bottom seat button presses not only forward backward but up and down as well if you dont know
The Sienna gives amazing gas mileage and in todays market that is what matters the most to most consumers. I test drove the Pacifica Hybrid as well and liked the vehicle and drive quality but the Chrysler badge makes me nervous in terms of long term reliability.
@@Nasirsfoodandtravelfalse, the Chrysler fan still has an old school 3.6 tried an true v6 that’s actually been around for awhile, and the transmission never had any issues… Chrysler has been making vans longer than them all an they make them well… mine has 350k on the original engine and transmission. I take care an service it like you should any car. Plus the stow and go seats are a game changer… can literally camp an sleep in the car you have so much room
KIA has been making great vehicles lately and rivaling the old big dogs in the park. Stinger GT, Telluride, K5 and now Carnival all go head to head and even beat the rivals. Took a few mistakes to perfect the art but KIA/Hyundai brand have caught up. Better late than never!
@@waynecartwright9478 “Look at me, I’m an automotive engineer so everyone should listen to me and discredit everyone else’s opinion because I’m the truth” 😂🤣😂 Sir these vehicles are flying off the lot even when folks like you hate on them. Your resume hasn’t impressed anyone neither has your opinion, it’s like if I said I’m a professional driver so know everything about driving and what others say is irrelevant unless they drive professionally like me. lol
The New Toyota Sienna for a family of 7 or 8 is the best option. All of the complaints in this video are really dumb in my opinion. If you get good MPG, nice features and it performs well. What is there to complain about? You are 2 parents with 2 or 3 kids. Try 5 or 6
I purchased the 2021 odyssey and the transmission is smooth as butter!!! Plenty of power! Maybe they were driving it in economy mode? Because I have no clue what they are talking about.
What is the point of having a hybrid to save money on gas when the price of the vehicle itself is >$10k more expensive than the lowest priced competing vehicle?
In this test they used terrible comparison of trims. The Sienna Platinum is over $10k more than the XSE with similar features. You could actually get the LE for cheaper than any of the other vans if you want to deprive yourself of features.
Hi, just wanted to give a reminder that the Toyota Sienna has 2 pilot seats and there is a pathway between the seats which allows passengers to move into the third row seat. You do not need to make any adjustment of the center seat to go into the third row seats.
While I might have preferred the Kia, I ultimately chose the Odyssey because it was Available, will have better resale value than the Kia, adjustable armrest that are attached to the seat (big comfort feature for me), the big space in the front for storage, and just overall seemed very well put together. I checked out a XLE Sienna and everything seemed poorly fitted and didn't feel nearly as nice as the Kia or Honda. Another important factor is the Dealer support. I've owned a few Kia vehicles in the past 5 years and the dealers are just not great for service or issues. They sold me a vehicle which had a year's worth of free oil changes and when I mentioned how much to upgrade to synthetic oil, the service manager said you don't need it, only if you drive a high performance vehicle like a corvette.
I own a Pilot and Camry, and I'm not a big fan of Honda at all .... Drive quality of Toyota us phenomenal, while the maintenance cost is far cheaper too! O would not spend $50,000 on these gas guzzlers but rather put $20,000 more and get a Tesla Model Y.
That’s the big thing, I’ll never own another Chrysler product ever. The quality control is absolutely garbage. Some are fine but when they are bad, they are bad.
@@Natethegreat200c Oh sure, your one anecdotal evidence goes against every single reliability study, mechanic forum opinions across the country. I said their QA is crap so you sometimes get a decent one, but on the whole they are some of the worst built vehicles on the road.
Honda and Chrysler are good for the first two years and then quality fails them dramatically. Honda still uses a timing belt. Chrysler has severe electrical issues. Can’t speak to the carnival. But Toyota is most likely going to be the most reliable vehicle by far.
@@FordFocus-oo8fd timing belts are quite expensive to replace and a lot more expensive if they are not. Good chains such as those on toyota save lots of money. Remember Honda only makes interference engines so if the chain brakes bye bye engine. Most of Toyota’s belt engines were noninterference.
@@martinlazar9420 couldn't agree more.. i have changed quite a few belts in my lifetime, now i'm not as enthusiastic about changing any.. good servicing and chains never have a problem my mom bought an Altima and drive it 14 years till it rusted to nothing it just ran
My '17 Chrysler Pacifica has been reliable aside from a couple minor issues that were covered under warranty. I think it has about 75,000 miles or slightly less now, so I don't know where you got your "2 year" estimate from as far as quality. I did get the extended 100,000 mile warranty on it because of Chrysler's reputation, but it's been a great van. Might upgrade to the Carnival next year simply because it looks kind of SUV-ish to me and I like that.
How? I have 2 older GM products in my driveway as I type, '14 Cadillac ATS and my husband's '11 Chevy Silverado, both have been great cars for us as far as reliability. Bought my car new and he's had his truck maybe 3 years, both have 100,000+ miles. I think some may be worse than others, but I wouldn't make a blanket statement saying all are unreliable.
@@remyd8767 except when you see it first hand it tends to leave a bad taste in your mouth. Every import I've owned has far outlasted the GM products. Now of course I don't know what the future holds but history shows more dependability from my viewpoint.
Hybrid is the way to go,I'm an uber driver and I'm currently driving the 21 toyota sienna,36 milles per gallon makes me to forget about any other mini van,it's worth it,I just put 22.000 milles in 4 months on the mini van so I know what I'm taking about...!
@@antimon40 not really, Toyota has nailed their hybrid setups. Good for an easy 200-300k. Their CVT is the best in the business, as long as you perform regular fluid changes. The engine is a basic 4 cylinder Toyota unit. What bill are we worrying about here? I've bought and sold toyota hybrids for almost 2 decades. now own and operate an import shop specializing in Toyotas. I'd take the toyota based on the powertrain and name alone. you couldn't give me a chrysler product. We had 4 shuttle vans a couple of years ago, Absolute disasters.
@@Abesta83 Really? How about Prius from 2008? I hear that the battery is bad after around 150k miles. And how about Toyota sealing up their transmission, removing the trans fluid dipstick, and calling the trans fluid a lifetime fluid? That is a backward move from Toyota. Also what's up with the unremovable second-row seat? That eliminates the utilitarian aspect of a minivan, and that's a dealbreaker for me.
@Sebastian Nugroho my sister inlaw has a 2007 prius with 211k miles when the hybrid battery light lit up went to get it checked out and they said 4 cell batteries went bad still driving with the light on no issues.
I'm Don, father of none, and there's no vehicle I've owned that I love more than my 2008 Toyota Sienna. Even the 1956 Thunderbird I owned in my youth delighted me as much. Post-viewing edit: This was an excellent presentation. The reviewers/testers were thorough and concise. First rate review.
The Kia “value” win is comical. Kia sells over MSRP to uneducated buyers. If you do your homework and know fair market value, they won’t bother with you.
Must be a USA problem. In Canada, the Kia starts at $5k cheaper than the Toyota while having more equipment, and almost $9k cheaper than the Honda. The only cars asking over MSRP here are exotics and high end luxury cars.
kia is truely the best looking inside and out. crysler is like a fat guy in sport shorts, its trying to look sporty for a minivan and naturally fails awfully.
If you happen to see one in person, you may change your mind. I thought the same thing, until I compared them in person. Everything felt really cheap on the inside of the Kia.
There a huge line for the sliding on the side u can definitely tell it’s a van plus the third pillar on the third row window, I think the sienna and Pacifica killed it for exterior design, but the front of that carnival looks good!
@@Untensuru. that’s CAP, few things felt cheap inside the Kia. Plus for the money you pay, it’s head and shoulders above the others in terms of value. The sienna and Odessy are littered with hard plastic everywhere!!!
@@markg876 I am only giving my opinion. Arguing "facts" are irrelevant in a market that is subject to interpretation. I truly wanted a Kia, but from what I saw in person I was not impressed. If you haven't driven both, I don't think your arguments here can hold any value. I was sold from all the videos I watched, showing how great the Kia was, it was a different monster in person, once I sat, tested, and drive both of them. Toyota was lacking on the entertainment imo, but does that really matter in the grand scheme of things, or 5 years down the road? Probably not.
@@Untensuru. No one is arguing. You have your opinion, I have mine. I have driven all the minivans on the market as I was looking for the right one for me and my family. The sienna felt the cheapest, the fake hardwood on the driver console felt so cheap and tacky. I have 2 kids and entertainment does matter. Sienna lacked the tech, features and build quality for the price they were asking. All it has going for it is the gas savings and the "Toyota" brand name. I'm willing to give the new comer a shot. To each their own I guess. Let's revisit this in 5 yrs and it can either be a "I told you so" moment, or "you were right about that carnival" :D
Drove 3 Carnivals and the Honda before buying a Sienna. The Carnival felt cheap, and drove terrible. The Honda just felt older, as it hasn't had a real design change in a long time, and was laking lane assist. Also, I'm 6'1" and I'm confused about the "lack of head room" they mentioned? If you're really considering buying a new van, do yourself a favor and test drive all of them.
You realize every single review/comparison video of the Sienna on RU-vid complains about the horrible drivability and lack of power compared to all other minivans. It consistently scores at the bottom. Let’s just admit that some people went with the Sienna to save on gas.
@@EK4U RU-vid car reviewers have an obsession about power and 0-60 times. That’s great for a sports car but it really doesn’t matter as much for a family car. I’ve owned sports cars and yes I expect them to accelerate fast and be fun to drive. However I don’t buy a family car looking to crush red light drag races. The Sienna has ample power as long as you’re not trying to floor it everywhere you go.
@@Untensuru. I’m getting the impression you didn’t see the SX Prestige trim on the Carnival. Cheap and terrible driving are not what people are commenting.
@@PriestsandParamedics speed and power is just one aspect where the Carnival excels over the Sienna. Interior, design, quality, tech, size, the list goes on. Honestly there’s nothing the Sienna can tout over the Carnival other than AWD and 10 more miles per gallon.
I have so say that I bought my 2021 Sienna for a few reasons other than saving gas. 1) The known Toyota reliability and longevity that Chrysler and Kia lack. 2) The engine has a timing chain instead of a belt. This saves maintenance and money. The Honda has a belt. 3) I did not have to buy a charger and have it installed. Everyone knows that Chryslers are made to buy and sell within a few years before the frame/body rusts out and before you have replaced the transmission for the third time. They are fine short-term, and that is it. They are just more "Big Three" junk. As for Kias. They are getting better but have yet to prove themselves like the Japanese automakers.
@@Snoopymk37 you basically bought the ugliest slowest minivan that’ll save you slightly more gas but will last 20 years. That’s not for everyone. To each their own.
I think the Pacifica Is the reliable van now, the sienna just came out the model hasn’t even lasted 2 years lol and the carnival is already on recall 🤦🏽♂️ I really like the odyssey tho
I've noticed that. Reviewers knocking it for hybrid noise and acceleration..like Wut? Meanwhile, I can't find a Sienna to save my life. They're selling before they're even hitting the ground around here.
@@siualino that powertrain wad in the highlander when that got redesigned in 2020 and it’s just a glorified Prius same basic design powertrain wise just with a bigger engine and more electric motors
2010 and older 1st Place: Toyota Sienna 2nd Place: Honda Odyssey 3rd Place: Chrysler Town & Country 4th Place: Nissan Quest 5th Place: Kia Sedona 6th Place: Dodge Grand Caravan Passenger
2011-16 1st Place: Toyota Sienna 2nd Place: Honda Odyssey 3rd Place: Chrysler Town & Country 4th Place: Nissan Quest 5th Place: Kia Sedona 6th Place: Dodge Grand Caravan
2021 and 2022 Minivans 1st Place: Chrysler Pacifica 2nd Place: Toyota Sienna 3rd Place: Honda Odyssey 4th Place: Kia Carnival 5th Place: Chrysler Voyager
well if you buy a Honda or toyota they will still work even after 10 years. had a sienna with 290k miles no problems my odyssey has 171k still runs like new the only expensive repair was timing belt water pump at 105000 miles . cant say the same about Kia or Chrysler.
Many people want the 8 passenger version, but have the flexibility to take out one of the center seats to give breathing room to the passengers. The only reason why I would want a minivan is too be able to walk back to the third row through the middle aisle. But I don't have to have to give a seat to do that. Also, not everyone buys a minivan for family. These vehicles are amazing for cargo transportation. Better than any SUV but the suburban. Being able to configure the seats is a huge feature
We got a Pacifica and it's the Touring Limited S AWD and it's in triple black, loaded with everything and it's cool van sporty and gets the looks. Had a guy in a newer Challenger try to race us no joke. Kept up with him definitely a dudes van over the other soccer mom ones hahaha
They very clearly didn't want the Sienna or Odyssey to win. This was a contrarian review to many, many other reviews out there that all put the Sienna and Odyssey way ahead. It's funny because they said the Carnival looked quality, but then mentioned it wasn't leather and then said how bad the switches were. My family watched a ton of reviews and what won in the end for us was long term reliability and MPG. So the Sienna was a verrrrry easy choice. Especially after 10 years of Odyssey ownership.
Kia is really killing it these days. Rumor has it the Carnival Hybrid is coming soon. The Pacifica PHEV would probably be my close second. The Odyssey really needs a refresh, and the Toyota feels incredibly cheaply made inside and underpowered. The interior panels are so flimsy and can be peeled off so easily like nothing is really holding them.
This was a poor review. Lots of your Pros/Cons are subjective and bias on your own personal likes. Please stick to more quantitative/ measurable comparisons in future reviews instead of your own personal preferences. Last but not least, look at the camera when you are talking, it was very annoying listening to either reviewer when they are looking at each other and not the camera.
What's the point of the video then if not subjective? You might as well go read a stat sheet. I hate reviews that just cite numbers that I can just read
I think the issue with these comparisons is how they weight the categories and no way to see reliability. With the honda and toyota, you know they will last for a decade with oil changes and minimal preventative maintenance. Also their interiors never have a fake upscale feel, but are going to hold up well with kids. Realistically none of us hear are about to drop north of $45k on a minivan and sell it in 3 years, we are gonna keep it 6-7 years. I know the sienna got last in their test, but the odyssey doesn't have AWD, and 50% better fuel economy is no joke. I simply don't have enough faith in the kia product at this price point (to their credit, they have been doing well, remember when Hyundai was a joke?). And know full well the Pacifica will fall apart within the first 2 years.
If the Chrysler was wearing a Chrysler badge all these people saying it’s garage wouldn’t be saying that if it was wearing a dodge/ram badge everyone would be saying it’s dope and the best one. But people aren’t like that it’s a Chrysler not the van itself
@@JohnLee-db9zt the older ones were, From 1998 to 2011 Chrysler was in the stage where a car manufacturer doesn’t know what to do with itself. Which is why we got the caliber, concord, stratus, and Sebring just a bunch of cars with pathetic reliability ratings. Chrysler is not as bad as it used to be since the Durango redesign and when the journey first came out I think Chrysler finally found its position and decided to try and perfect their craft. And that is what I call character development 👏🏼👏🏼
This is what happens when you ignore the fact that the Kia needs its 100k mi warranty because at 100,001 miles, it just falls apart. The Chrysler, especially the hybrid, you buy if you want it to randomly stall out on the freeway if you go over 75mph. The Honda and the Toyota however… your great grand kids will be driving those things.
I would rank honda #4 due to the toyota having Awd and pacifica #1 due to its awd as well. The child seat anchor dosen't bother us much cus once you put the car seats in they usually stay for along time. We bought a 2020 chrysler pacifaca AWD in November and we love it. Very impressed with the fuel economy, anywhere from 8-9L/100kms highway and 10.8-11.2 L/100kms in mixed short distance driving. Got 16,000k on the odometer as of now and its been trouble free.
Just be sure not to overload it unless you like merging on the highway as slow as a semi truck. Blows my mind how shitty the Toyota drivetrain is for a large vehicle.
In general I found Honda being more responsive on the gas paddle then Toyota which you need to literally push in order to get it rolling which makes really hard to drive especially in traffic.
La mejor es KARR (Ford Windstar Sel 2002) porque le cedí mi trono poder y autoridad 😶 alguien la quiere $$$ ...???
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I just bought 2021 Honda Odyssey after comparing all of these models. I love Odyssey’s engine, handling, and quality built and more. Toyota tried too hard to go hybrid. The last thing I need is low power and high noise when I hull the entire of five and stuff uphills.
@@remyd8767 like most newer Honda's today, they are not reliable. While it’s shapely and powerful, the redesigned TLX doesn’t match up to the competition. Its standard 272-hp, 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder engine and 10-speed automatic make for an energetic pairing, but fuel economy of 23 mpg overall is unimpressive. The ride is comfortable and handling is nimble, but an abundance of road and engine noise undermine the TLX’s premium pretense. While it’s a bit larger than its competition, it isn’t any roomier. The front seats are comfortable and supportive, but the rear seat is tight, and the car’s low stance hurts access. The touchpad-based infotainment system is very distracting and unintuitive to use while driving. Forward collision warning and automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection are standard, but blind spot warning (BSW) comes only with the Technology package.
@@remyd8767 This shorter, five-seat version of the Honda Pilot uses the same smooth, refined 3.5-liter V6 engine and nine-speed automatic transmission. We measured 21 mpg overall. In our tests we found the Passport’s ride to be rather stiff but without a marked improvement in handling agility. The infotainment system is slow to respond, and the push-button gear selector is tricky to use without looking down at it. The interior is roomy and full of handy storage places. While FCW and AEB are standard on all Passports, BSW is not standard on the base trim level. Finally, the Passport has a below-average predicted reliability rating.
Any normal person can immediately tell the Pacifica drives like a luxury car, super smooth suspension, rattle/squeak free Interior. I am a Sienna owner and I just rented a Pacifica for a week to test it out...this is how a car should ride! I smile every time I drive the Pacific! Sienna’s ride is a POS compare with Pacifica and the Sienna is full of squeak and rattles from the 1st week I own it.
I have a 2020 Pacifica plug in hybrid and it’s by far the best. I test drove new sienna and the interior quality and noise were a turn off. Honda was loaded with cheap and hard plastics. Kia wasn’t out. Got limited with all the bells and whistles including pano, Napa leather, deep mocha interior color, and 20 speaker system ($51k-plug in), $45,500 after dealer discounts, rebates, and nys taxes (8%). Bought $2k Mopar warranty, additional 2yrs, equivalent to manufacture warranty for 5 yrs 75 k bumper to bumper overall warranty. Then I got another $7500 federal tax credit. Total after everything, $40k. My entire family, extended as well, are impressed. Great ride, handling, power, refinement, interior quality, and attractive exterior if get right edition. Fuel economy, 32-35 miles pure electric and average 80-100 mpge (No joke, 80-100 repeatedly). In winter, drops to 45-60 mpge due to heater being on and battery performance in cold. When battery runs out, 30-40mpg bc works as hybrid. Due to my commute to work being 10-15 miles, I’m all electric and fill up once a month or two. When I do put gas in, I only fill 1/2 tank bc don’t want to haul around and use old gas. I’ve owned 3-vans, by far the best. After 5 yes, can trade in or keep. Battery and charging/electrical warranties upto 10-yes 150k.
2020 pacifica hybrid limited, pano, 20 speaker system, back seat entertainment, safety sense with adaptive cruise, and everything that comes standard with limited
@@NT-to6dy Love my '17 Limited non-hybrid because I knew my husband would use stow-n-go often... His father tried to talk us out of buying it and buy a Toyota or Honda which I felt like both had zero style. I'm at almost 80k miles and never a hiccup. Love my pretty 'Cifica.
Really cool glad to hear you are enjoying it you don't have to worry about old gas the van will kick on the engine and use the gas if it sences its been sitting in the tank to long. I've had a similar experience with mine I have a 3 mile commute to work and daycare and school are both about a mile away from home most of our day to day trips are within about a 10 mile range so rarely use gas day to day
I would never ever buy a Chrysler product no matter how many bells and whistles and whatever price. Got better things to be doing than going to the garage to get things fixed constantly.
I rarely carry people, and I don't need car seats. I carry equipment, but I like my luxury while driving from gig to gig. The big draw is the stow and go. Plus I like all the features. That's why I chose the Pacifica Limited S model.
LOL! Come on man ANY new car is extremely safe now a days. Safety standards are insanely high. People are way too fixated on safety now. @@watchandjewelryloft4713
@@jjchockey I've heard the same argument for literally any previous safety design. While a non airbag seat may be safe, improvements are still possible. And sometimes at the cost of something else. Convenience, weight, cost, etc. This has been true since the invention of the automobile.
Obviously… I’m just saying people are way too fixated on safety. IMO that should be very low on your list of priorities when buying a new car because any new car is going to be more the safe enough. @@watchandjewelryloft4713
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 But it is a noticeable loss to not be able to pop out the 2nd row. Not everyone will ever want to haul something gigantic, but it does sheer of a segment of buyers who want to do so. I mean I did see one reviewer who is a Toyota tech that was all "I mean, you CAN disconnect the wires and pull the seat, but I wouldn't recommend doing that." but that's about the time I plug it in wrong and catch an airbag to the face. If the seats don't even fold over forward then my dream of 4x8 sheets of plywood is in peril!
Thats weird. My 2013 chrystler town and country stow n go the middle seats move forward and backward about 8 inches and still folds town into the floor.
