You know nothing you’re false. If everything was already plan out in scripture from Genesis to Revelation why do we need prophets now? Every single prophet in the scripture was told what to do by God and it was mostly to teach the children how to live a life . And to tell some what their dreams means. What are the so call prophets of today doing but talking peoples money. I was in church one day a so call Prophet was there I was hoping he didn’t come to me he did , although he was in my ear God make it so that I didn’t hear a word he said in my ear . Other people in the church he spoke to I don’t see anything happen as he was saying it’s all a lie. And he wasn’t the only prophet I had an encounter with I was trying to get away from this one to but fail , nothing he said came through either. I go the Father Himself and he deliver I don’t need a middle man . The most High is the director of my life . Not some so call man calling himself a prophets
So will I 😂😂😂 there are many Prophetess and Prophets !!!! God also reveals things to me in my dreams so I definitely know that's a lie from the pits of Hell ‼️‼️ He means run away from him cause the truth is not in him!!!
right!! Ironically, he asked the question himself: "what's wrong with just being called a pastor?" We are to revere no man, only the one and only almighty GOD !!
EPHESIANS 4:11 HE ASENDED AND GAVE SOME PROPHET PASTOR TEACHER EVANGELIST APOSTLE...HE BETTER READ THAT AGAIN.THESE GIFTS ARE FOR THE PREFECTNG OF THE CHURCH..NOW WHERE DID HE GET THE TITLE "REV" THERE IS NO SUCH TITLE IN THE BIBLE..😮😮😮
You are exactly right. But right now, he is preaching, Baptist doctrine. He is right according to the baptist doctrine, but not according to the bible.
@@kelvinbrooks9588 THE Bible says " if anybody comes with another doctrine let them be accursed there's only one doctrine.there is no such thing as a Baptist doctrine.
@@bettymarshall615 betty, betty, betty. Smh ok. Maybe catechism is a better word to use. He is preaching baptist teachings and their understanding of will of GOD. I personally hold to ephesians 5 fold list of ministry gifts. Nevertheless the man is an awesome preacher, and he does adhere to certain confines. Just having a little discussion. That's all. Just a comment or discussion.
@@kelvinbrooks9588 Kelvin Kelvin Kelvin! I appreciate you honest opinion but Galatians 1':8says if anybody preacher another gospel let them be accused..Sorry🙏🙏🙏 that's the word..i,'m a born again believer for over 50 years n it annoys me when I hear that a preacher says things that is not in the Bible.
If you have the Holy spirit, God is still giving these gifts out, especially chosen ones to work against the enemy, while we still here on earth. Ex: if you are driving or walking, etc and God want to warn you about something that's about to happening, how are you going to know? If someone says...God said DO NOT IGNORE IT- LISTEN to what is being said to you, then take it to the LORD in prayer for verification. Blessing to you.🙌🙏
That as you say information is only for YOU and not for you to ask people for an offering to tell people what God says.😮 The gift the Bible. No Don't be ignorant the Bible is suppose to be in YOU!! Not in the preacher's sermon 😅
@@warderst9129 Yes, the Bible is the Base of God's word,sword, protection, weapon, promises etc., but it so much more than that; God speaks in so many different ways. Also, God will show you some things that is only for you to know, but if he gives you a word/warning for someone else , you DO NOT PAY them, that's what you call a psychic not God's Servant. There are so many wolves with sheep's clothing Christians and God will definitely handled them. Anything a person want to know, understand and experience; Go to the main source (GOD/JESUS)and make your request known unto him, and he will show you great and mighty things. Blessing to you.
I whole heart agree with you . What I got from this message is the ones who calls themselves these things ...like the ones with the real gifts don't even want it - it takes a while for them to even understand the gift they have . I think the message was for us to remain humble . For example most prophets in the bible didn't walk up to people and said I'm a prophet they would say I am a messenger . Its the labeling and arrogance that is presented these days. Goes back to the many are called but few are chosen .
Amen. Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
@@ashleystoker6400 That’s what I got from this as well. Not so much that the gifts are gone, but that people use titles to manipulate versus carrying that gift out naturally.
You may read the Bible, but your understanding Is off, in all things, get understanding it's in the Bible You,er still asleep You don,t know God What experience did you have Amen
@@user-uq3er8rf1cYes he is correct. Prophesies in 95% of the New Testament means teaching and expanding on the mimd of God. Cessationist have it correct.
Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
“So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up” (Ephesians 4:11-12, NIV) You can't just choose to be selective when it comes to order..The 5 fold ministry was critical to early church structure and the structure of today..
In the last days I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. Your Sons & your daughters SHALL PROPHESY. Your old men SHALL DREAM DREAMS. Acts 2:17. Also Ephesians 4:11-16 He gave some Apostles, Prophets, Some evangelists, Pastors, & Teachers. So then would that not exclude you also Pastor? The Bible says do not add or take away from God's Holy Word.
We need to be read up in the word because deception has long been here and is now coming in droves. We need the spirit of discernment which comes from the holy spirit. I am glad you put this verse up.
Amen hallelujah a billion times over and over again!!!!!that’s the word of edification right there and I don’t care who is speaking it ,once it’s truth I salute!
Ephesians 4:11 (KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;Ephesians 4:12 (KJV) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
@@Sisterlisa2012 We need to research what we've read in scriptures as well. Research Apostle Paul who wrote this letter to the Ephesians. Research Paul and the many times he's went against Jesus' teachings throughout these scriptures. Pray to our Father in Heaven for discernment as you read the Bible💓
Lies! Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Exactly! It’s crazy that people are agreeing with him with the Bible very clearly states the opposite. Since when did God stop giving out spiritual gifts? These people have never gotten a word directly from God via someone with the gift of prophecy so unfortunately they don’t believe….maybe there’s a reason why no one with the gift of prophecy steps foot in this church 😢
Perfect scripture for our brother who is misguided on this issue. The LORD also said that “I will not do a thing unless I have first revealed to it to my servants the prophets.” Would this not mean that the LORD for instance has prophets in every generation?
Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. 1 Corinthians 13:8-10
This refers to love’s lastingness or permanence as a divine quality. Love outlasts all failures (cf. 1 Pet. 4:8; 1 John 4:16). Paul strengthens his point on the permanence of love by comparing it to the spiritual gifts that the Corinthians so highly prized: prophecy, knowledge, and tongues, all of which will have an end. There may be a distinction made on how prophecy and knowledge come to an end, and how the gift of tongues does. This is indicated by the Greek verb forms used. In the case of prophecy and knowledge, they are both said to “be done away” (in both cases the verb indicates that something will put an end to those two functions). First Corinthians 13:9-10 indicates that what will abolish knowledge and prophecy is that which is “perfect.” When that occurs, those gifts will be rendered inoperative. The “perfect” is not the completion of Scripture, since there is still the operation of those two gifts and will be in the future kingdom (cf. Joel 2:28; Acts 2:17; Rev. 11:3). The Scriptures do not allow us to see “face to face” or have perfect knowledge as God does (1 Cor. 13:12). The “perfect” is not the rapture of the church or the second coming of Christ, since the kingdom to follow these events will have an abundance of preachers and teachers (cf. Isa. 29:18; 32:3-4; Joel 2:28; Rev. 11:3). The “perfect” must be the eternal state, when we in glory see God face to face (Rev. 22:4) and have full knowledge in the eternal new heavens and new earth. Just as a child grows to full understanding, believers will come to perfect knowledge and no such gifts will be necessary. On the other hand, Paul uses a different word for the end of the gift of tongues, or languages, thus indicating it will “cease” by itself, as it did at the end of the apostolic age. It will not end by the coming of the “perfect,” for it will already have ceased. The uniqueness of the gift of tongues and its interpretations was, as all sign gifts, to authenticate the message and messengers of the gospel before the NT was completed (Heb. 2:3-4). “Tongues” was also limited by being a judicial sign from the God of Israel’s judgment (see note on 1 Cor. 14:21; cf. Isa. 28:11-12). “Tongues” were also not a sign to believers, but unbelievers (see on 1 Cor. 14:22), specifically those unbelieving Jews. Tongues also ceased because there was no need to verify the true messages from God once the Scripture was given. It became the standard by which all are to be deemed true. “Tongues” was a means of edification in a way far inferior to preaching and teaching (see on 14:5, 12, 27-28). In fact, ch. 14 was designed to show the Corinthians, so preoccupied with tongues, that it was an inferior means of communication (14:1-12), an inferior means of praise (14:13-19), and an inferior means of evangelism (14:20-25). Prophecy was and is, far superior (14:1; 3-6; 24; 29; 31; 39). That tongues have ceased should be clear from their absence from any other books in the NT, except Acts. Tongues ceased to be an issue of record or practice in the early church, as the Scripture was being written. That tongues has ceased should be clear also from its absence through church history since the first century, appearing only sporadically and then only in questionable groups. A more detailed discussion is given in the notes on ch. 14.
@@ThePreachingOfHisWord It comes to and end when the church is perfected. Until then we SHOULD be flowing in the prophetic. How I LONG for a true 5 fold ministry. I am ready for Gods power to truly manifest
Brother Pastor Terry the Scriptures said that he gave gift unto men No where does it say that he stop giving out gifts or the gifts. He gave had diminish from the original count There was apostle others than twelve that wasn't chosen by Jesus after Jesus death ... I Love you brother pastor like Jesus does this is not correct but don't run , what we should do is try the spirit to see if it of GOD Just one who seek to get an understanding Love you much
What exactly do we need profits for? Is God's word not enough? The reason that they had profits at certain times is because they didn't have a God's word to refer to. Now I got to be honest I do believe in words of knowledge. But most prophecies these days are 100% wrong. There were only 12 apostles and there will only ever be 12 apostles. Some of the comments in this prove his point everybody wants a title, everybody wants a gift. Very few on a cultivate the fruit of the Spirit because that's work.
You people don’t understand what you Jesus personally pick his disciples he told his disciples to go preach the word. Jesus is not picking disciples now. God picked his prophets do y’all even know what the prophets jobs were . Y’all need to read the first half of the book call the Old Testament . Like Jeremiah and Isaiah etc. the so call Prophets of today lie to you take your money on Sundays calling it tithes . Y’all better relearn some stuff and inner stand what y’all reading. Learn to decipher the written words of God . I’m sure y’all believe in the rapture as well that verse was inserted in the scriptures in 1826 not very long ago way after Jesus was crucified.
Very true statement, thank you God for revealing this truth through this man, prophets are done, the told us about who was coming Jesus Christ to save us from sin. We are now living by the scriptures. In the last days God will write His law on the tablets of our hearts and it is now here.
Exactly. Hebrews 1:1-3. The Scripture says in the first day's God spoke to man through Prophets. But in the last day's God spoke to us through his son. And all Christ had to say is in a Closed Canon.
God was speaking in the last days through his Son which is his WORD and he whom God has sent speak God’s word. The apostles were around when the scripture said God speak in these last days through his son. This man is a blind devil leading blind goats.
What about Ephesian 4:11-12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
You must understand scriptures Paul was talking to the Gentles in those days You have to know according to scripture Jesus handpicked the disciples personally . God picked the prophets by telling them in a dream what to say . It was not about healing anyone it was about how his people must obey him by walking in love truth and justice . I would love to know who told these people they’re prophets and prophetess
Sorry, Sir, you got this wrong. Never undermine the 5 fold ministry. A Prophet is not the same as Pastor, Apostle, Teacher or Evangelist. Be careful what you preach because God is listening to u. Read the Bible again
Maybe you should read the Bible yourself. Hebrews 1:1-3. In the First Days God spoke to us through Prophets. But in the last days(since Christ) God speaks to us through his Son. And all Christ had to say is in a closed Canon. Prophesies in the New Testament 95% of the time means teaching and expanding on the mind of God. I suggest Justin Peters 4 Session's called Clouds Without Water.
Sir you are wrong. You are a preacher pastor or bishop elder. That’s it. Don’t let pride pump you up. We have the full canon of scripture!!! No more no less.
All prophecy has been prophesied! There is no new revelation anymore, anyone who preaches the truth from the Bible is actually prophesying what's already been foretold by God's holy prophets. Prophecy is a message communicated to someone by God, now He HAS spoken to us through His son. Read Hebrews 1:1-4, it's important to scrutinize the Scriptures and understand.
@@DarkMatterBurrito God did not say there is no more prophets. He only says there will be false prophets in the last days. If there are false prophets there are also one that are true.
@@claudbrown4080 That is a non sequitur. All of that ended with the last of the apostles. There are no apostles today. There is no speaking in tongues that is true today.
That's right. Cause the Israelites brothers standing on the street corners preaching would have a field day with this LYING BALD-HEADED PORKCHOP EATING pastor
Let the church say Amen....clearly he didn't read this text I'm scripture Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
@@bryantdodson3232 Nowhere in the scripture does it say that being an apostle or prophesying would continue indefinitely. Much like the charlatans who claim to be healers these are teachers of demonic beliefs.
@@minermike61 thank you for your kind response. Never used the word "indefinitely" however he did give some, you can make the argument for the rest of the offices but above all Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father. And one day we will all have to give an account including you and I my friend. 🙏🏾
@@minermike61 our best bet is to live right before the Lord and share the good news of Jesus Christ and walk worthy of the vocation in which we are called. I renounce my argument for the sake of peace amongst the brethren. What that preacher preaches isn't my business at the end of the day, we have no heaven or hell to put him in and the same grace by which we are saved, saved him.
@@bryantdodson3232 Satan has tried unravel what God has built in the way of pure teaching. I believe all of this will be taken into account in the end and Jesus, being given the throne and right to judge us, will read our hearts. What I take to heart is what this man is saying which seems to be, beware of anyone saying Look, the Lord is over here. For the right hearted, when Jesus is present, they will know.
The spirit is obeying laws..... Don't kill...etc... You not save by no grace..u been hood wink...the only old law that was abolish was animal sacrifice
The term was used as a general term of respectful address and not as a descriptive term. The same way that some presidents of countries are called "excellency".
Those who are called to declare the Word are to receive double Honor/Reverence. Let us peak what the word says and avoid rendering our personal opinions., there is safety and power to change things by repeating what I AM /God says. 1 Timothy 5:17-18
@kingDavidDAnointed1 Problem is 1 Timothy 5:17-18 does not say to call or apply the title "reverend" to any leader. That name/title only belongs to our God. What it says is to honor the leaders, which the Lord has appointed. Let's not take the word of our context. Now, here is where we find the word reverend being applied correctly. KJV Psalms 111:9 "He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant forever: holy and reverend is his name." There's a religion that goes as far as attributing the title "father" to their leaders. But we are told in Matthew 23:9 "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
@@maxjnb4816 Satan must get a rush out of people arguing about trivial matters. We should take living holy lives this seriously. Trip on this Negroes, prepare to return back to the Promised Land of Israel after meeting I AM in the Great desert of Nations all whose ancestors were scattered throughout the nations of the world as slaves. Luke 21:24, Ezekiel 20:33-44 MSG
Yeah!!!!!!! Cause the Israelites brothers standing on the street corners preaching to our people would have a field day with this lying bald-headed porkchop eating pastor
It is common knowledge that John was the last apostle. Nowhere in scripture does it indicate that God appointed replacement apostles when the originals were murdered except for Paul who replaced Judas. That is something that would have been written.
@@minermike61 judas was replaced by mathias paul was an apostle to the gentiles chosen an taught by the risen Christ himself other than that you are right
Hebrews 1:1-3. It says basically God spoke to us through his Prophets, a Burning Bush and a Donkey in the First Day's. But in these Last Days(since Christ) He speaks to us through his son and all Christ had to say is in a Closed Canon. If you crave new Revelations the Bible isn't enough for you. You see when people say God told them something that should have as much Authority as the Scriptures abd should be added to the Canon. Christ said not to add or take away. Those fakes are adding. I hope that makes sense. God bless you and your quest for discernment. The preacher is absolutely correct. There are only 12 Apostles and they have their 12 seats in the Throne Room. Do you know one man that can perform the Sign Gifts? That is the ability to heal and raise the dead. Or the ability to do Signs and Wonders. Not Psychosomatic healing like my knee, back and shoulder feels better. The ability to heal Down Syndrome, true Cripples or cure diseases. God still heals but at his Sovereign Will and pleasure.
Ephesians 4:11-15 KJV 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: Application: I can agree with 90% of what he's saying because I can't get with Dr, Pope, Reverend, Cardinal and whatever else that is not written in the chapter and verses I have provided for your reading.
assage Resources Hebrew/Greek Your Content Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Don't deny your Ministry Office Dear Beloved . Be proud of whom God has called, Anointed and Appointed you to be and so.Denying Who God has called you, is to give satan Joy.❤God bless you...
So you're saying that canon (The Bible) isn't closed? As in isn't finished being written? If you are personally given a word from God to speak what makes your "Prophecy" any less valid than Johns, Moses, Jeremiah or Malachi??? Why shouldn't your "Prophecy" also be recorded in the Bible?? I'd love to hear your response. I'd also love to test anyone of your "Prophecies" "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves" - Matthew 7:15 "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken? - when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him" - Deuteronomy 18:20-22 If the Lord has indeed given you prophecy then I dare ask, has that "thing" happened? Show me one "Prophecy" of Joseph Smith that is actually true? What more is left to be "Prophcied" after the book of Revelation?
Let's stick to the text please Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
@@pamelaprice9662 Ms. Price, idk what @neftalirosado5363 is talking about it seems they are talking out of thin here... not from the bible. You can search it out but good luck finding it... I haven't found it yet, if you do, please share with us lbs 😂 smh
Revelation 1:9 “I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.” King James Version (KJV)
God's word is complete and true but you need to study that same word for yourself to show yourself approved and don't be lead astray. Read Ephesians 4:11-26
Thank you Carolyn Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Another false prophet, they do not read the Bible. And the parishioners need to read the Bible and understand what it means because this is misleading.
We pray for this brother to be loosed from his deception. God is the same today, yesterday, and forever. God does reveal Revelation knowledge to the believers.
...But its heresy!...The man contradicts scripture...Or at best makes huge assumptions that cant be verified by scripture. Jesus was prophetic...His spirit is within us. Read the comments....read the Bible.
@@IssacharGR the key word you typed yourself is "was". Beyond the scriptures there are no more "appointed" prophets. Yes the gift of prophesying can fall on someone through the spirit, but they are not a continuous prophet. You are not the gifts given to you. That's the point. Yes it is written that young men with prophecy and old men will dream dreams (visions) but they are not prophets like in the scriptures. All of Yah's children, filled with the holy Spirit will be granted gifts, through the spirit. It is the spirit doing the thing, not you... Meaning, not appointed. It's sentenx and understanding. People think and want one thing to mean another but it doesnt
@@kdstyles1979 You are steering a middle road that in my 60years of knowing God and his people i seldom meet...My 40 years in international Christian publishing made me aware of the range of Christian opinion on this...and also taught me that our thinking on this is not easily adjusted. Your position if I understand you is:.....Yes there's prophecy...but no prophets.. Is there teaching but no teachers...Leading but no leaders? The basis for your thinking is thin....and probably a minority view...I'd encourage you to try and keep a little bit of space in your thinking for God to adjust and re-arrange it. (I will do the same)
@@IssacharGR "And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ"
@@kdstyles1979 What do you call your father?...I'm wondering if you have a religious spirit?...Everything has a context...Resist taking scripture by the letter...look for the spirit...or heart, behind the comment. The religious leaders that persecuted Jesus...and desired to kill him...used a lot of scripture to justify their resolve.
Let's review the text before we affirm what we hear...there are some.. Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
@stan020265 So true. How come none of them saw it coming. Those liars need to go find jobs, and stop tricking people. If it were for me alone, they would have died for hunger.May God help those who love to hear a word from the scaming profits, because those are not prophets.But God is merciful. He said, let the tates and the wheat grow until the day of harvest.
That isn't what God's word says ! Another thing, it should never be a black Baptist Church, it's the Church period, not black not white not Latino, God is no respector of persons, there is neither Jew, nor Greek, male or female or gentile.
@@user-bj9kw4pl3n you evidently don’t understand the concept of apostle and Prophet, an apostle has to have seen Jesus Christ in the flesh just as Paul did on the road. He was a last apostle. And a prophet is no longer necessary, because the Holy Spirit teaches us all things.
this man is of his father, the devil. There is NO SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT JOHN WAS THE LAST APOSTLE. This man is a LIAR. Truly most men and women who call them selves prophets are FALSE and most men and and women who call themselves apostles today are false but that doesn't stop God from sending Prophets and Apostles. Hence try the spirits for not every spirit is of God. This man is speaking out of his emotions and not based on the word of God so he is no better than those he is rebuking. LUKE 11: 49 "Therefore also SAID THE WISDOM OF GOD, I WILL SEND THEM PROPHETS and APOSTLES, and SOME OF THEM SHALL THEY SLAY and PERSECUTE:" What wisdom you and this man speaking with, clearly its not the wisdom of God. ACTS 2:17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" Questions is GOD STILL POURING OUT HIS SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH TODAY? If you agree he is, then Sons and Daughters WILL PROPHESY because GOD SAID IT would be so. God is speaking in these last days through his SON and HIS SON is his word and for those of us who receive the SPIRIT OF HIS SON, which is the SPIRIT OF GOD; The Holy Ghost we will spake THUS SAITH THE LORD. Jesus said the words that I speak they are spirit and they are life. It is written in 1 PETER 4:11, "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."
God had no Rev. But Reverence of God. Praying for you Minister or Pastor. And yes whats wrong with you being Pastor who needs to study the scriptures more. God bless this man of God.
Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
ABSOLUTE RUBBISH. Go read your bible my blind friend. LUKE 11: 49 "Therefore also SAID THE WISDOM OF GOD, I WILL SEND THEM PROPHETS and APOSTLES, and SOME OF THEM SHALL THEY SLAY and PERSECUTE:" What wisdom you and this man speaking with, clearly its not the wisdom of God. ACTS 2:17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" Questions is GOD STILL POURING OUT HIS SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH TODAY? If you agree he is, then Sons and Daughters WILL PROPHESY because GOD SAID IT would be so. God is speaking in these last days through his SON and HIS SON is his word and for those of us who receive the SPIRIT OF HIS SON, which is the SPIRIT OF GOD; The Holy Ghost we will spake THUS SAITH THE LORD. Jesus said the words that I speak they are spirit and they are life. It is written in 1 PETER 4:11, "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."
Before we agree let's review the text please Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: