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I'd seriously recommend all of Denis's filmography, starting with Incendies. It's one of his first movies but it's one of the greatest films of the last decade, tbh. His later ones have been phenomenal for sure, but do definitely check that one out.
One of the beautiful things about this movie to me is that she isn’t seeing the future, she’s just experiencing different parts of her life all at the same time. She’s not manipulating what happens in order to avoid a certain outcome; instead, all these experiences intertwine and inform each other. In her mind, her daughter doesn’t die in the future; she is both present, yet to be born, and already gone, and Louise just chooses to experience it all. She doesn’t choose not to tell Ian this time because he leaves; she already will tell him, already has, and knew he would leave all along. It’s incredible, and I loved rewatching it with you all.
@@musicmashup9597 i used to agree but, im gonna be honest, i don't think she can what she experiences is pretty much the Doctor Manhattan experience-she lives every moment in time at once. She can focus on one moment, of course, but not stop experiencing it all. And when you're everywhere in time, everything is already in the past. Done and gone. Even if she tried to do something different in one moment, she's already in the future and in the past
That's probably also why they were both in the corner when they planted the explosives. It was the last time they would be able to speak to each other before the others arrived and they needed to tell them, so they probably had some sort of parting. Since their live experiences are nonlinear, it might be less emotional than it would be for us, but it probably still meant something to them. Lovely creatures.
Anyone who learns their language will be able to perceive time as the aliens do - not just Louise. She was the first. In 3,000 years they need our help collectively, not Louise specifically. Louise is the one to bring their language to the world.
My favorite thing about this channel is that Oak is always the most skeptical about movies like Arrival and Harry Potter, and then, once he’s done with them, he is always is the most impacted, the most moved, the most permanently changed. That’s precious. When the credits roll on this one, everyone is chattering excitedly, but he sits there, somberly, quietly, really absorbing the sheer gravity and sorrow of what he just witnessed. And at the same time, as soon as this video started, I noticed that he’s the only one with like three pieces of Harry Potter memorabilia on his desk 😆. He genuinely takes something away from seeing these incredible, powerful films. And I love that so much about him.
He’s hesitant and mentions lots of movies that he started and didn’t finish or somehow lost interest in. Sit him down and make him watch something and he really gets invested. Great stuff!
To clarify, their language, really learning it and becoming fluent, is what makes you able to experience time all at once. Implication is that Louise will start the process of teaching whoever can learn and push humanity forward toward a new era.
As they said. They put their hands on both sides and meet in the middle. That's what they did with the film. They started with the end and the beginning. Then we met in the middle. We are trained to assume continuity if shots are cut after another unless specifically pointed out as flashback/-forward. Otherwise it confuses viewers. But here they deliberately break that rule to emphasise the point of the movie. To give us a glimpse of how she percieves time now. And on top of that a great message. I loved the film when I first saw it. Usually I don't like "alien invasion" movies too much. And this film kinda shows why because it takes such a different approach and doesn't do the things I usually dislike. It also feels very realistic, like how our world would actually react to aliens showing up.
I also think it’s interesting to think about maybe Ian wasn’t mad at her like “why didn’t you tell me sooner” about the daughter but maybe he was like “why did you tell me that at all” ???? maybe rather than wishing he already knew, he actually couldn’t cope with knowing and just waiting for it to happen and he would rather have been in the dark? Could be either way and honestly I don’t know which way I’d feel either!
@@marslaraactually we don't know that. She held the burden alone way before the pregnancy. Knowing she will one day have a daughter and she will die from a disease. Without him knowing. And maybe one day they discussed about that burden. These flash forward memories that come and maybe he wanted her to tell him what's going on. And in the end... He couldn't bear it.
@@MaafaxKelen I mean regardless of how or why she decided to tell him I still think it's understandable why he would be upset. Again she knowingly went throught with it without telling him what she saw until it was too late. He probably would have left no matter what, but the issue was as a partner she didn't even give him a chance of being able to choose. Whether it's locked in stone or not that was not fair of her. The only exception is if for some reason she wasn't able to figure out the time thing and basically found out too late herself.
There's also a little detail on how Abbott was always the second to arrive, as if he was late. The thing is that he was not late at all; he was dreading his own death, that's why he was always the second one, like if it tooks him a lot knowing that in that room he was going to die. It's sad.
Y'all did a very good job at understanding the movie but I just wanna add some stuff that slips most people's analysis of the movie: Louise's timeline becomes non-linear when she obtains the gift. She is able to perceive her life from the past POV and from the future's POV, essentially connecting her timeline into a circle (non linear). This is also why Louise chose to name her daughter Hannah, which can be written or 'drawn' starting from either side (like a circle) Also: Louise asks at the end 'if you could see your whole life ahead of you, would you change things?' This implies that Louise's future is also non-linear because she has the OPTION of changing her future decisions. Through that fact, her past ALSO becomes non-linear because her 'future past' will change depending on what she decides to do with her non-linear future. This movie is my all time favorite.
What broke my heart about this was that she didn’t tell him because she wanted him to be full of joy and hope and to embrace this beauty knowing she would tell him eventually their child would die and he’d leave her in anger. How could she not tell him? She wanted him to be able to have a normal and happy life until their child was about to be sick. And she’s thinking (experiencing) the end and hugging him, knowing he’ll leave her because he will see it as a betrayal. So not just the child, but also the husband l, the happiness of being with him for those years alone…
There is a great interview with Eric Heisserer, the writer of the film who adapted the short story for Villeneuve. The short story was a little different and the aliens only communicated with the humans from space. So the writer actually changed a lot of stuff to make the story more „cinematic“ while keeping the main theme of Luise, her daughter and her painful future at the center of the script. I think this is as good as an adaption can get
I loooove movies that you can't "shake off". You just keep thinking about them even after hours of watching them. Arrival is just that. Great reaction as always guys😍
So amazing that learning the language was the gift they intended for humanity to help them in 3000 years time and as to why she was having "flashbacks" as time isn't linear so she was subconsciously time travelling while learning the language. One of my favorite movies of all time. Thanks for reacting.
LOVEEEEEE this reaction, loved the theories you were throwing at each other. Love the moment you guys were discussing what was really going on, love it, love it, love it. I would be the girl saying "thank you for being smart and making me understand". I really enjoyed the collaboration, can't wait to see if you guys do it again.
I get what Mason was saying about not being able to recapture that experience of that reveal at the end, but this movie is definitely one to rewatch now that you know it. There are so many little things that will take on new meaning on a rewatch.
Yes, I've been waiting for this one!!! Little fact about the movie : the dying words of the General Shang's wife was "In war there are no winners, only widows" which I believe really ties everything together. Thank you for this reaction, it was absolutely lovely! 💛
The worst thing is after discovering his body of work, and being enthralled due to this soundtrack, Johannssen passed away a few years later. His loss is so hard, he wasn’t even 50, I don’t think.
This is one of my top 10 movies of all time. I'm with Oak on this one, 5 out of 5 hands down, not even close. And let's not forget they created an actual language for this movie. The commitment of that alone makes this top notch. So many layers to this, and perfectly executed. Amazing movie. Im surprised no one ever mentions the curiousity of what the hell happens in 3000 years that aliens would need OUR help?! That is intriguing in and of itself. What a story. Thanks for the reaction!
The whole movie is a palindrome, it starts and ends the same way. The beginning is _actually_ the future, not just a vision. However, the movie makes you think she’s already experienced it, but actually gives away the whole twist in the opening narration: “We are so bound by time, by its order…now I don’t believe in beginnings or endings anymore.” People seem to get tripped up thinking that the opening was known to Louise before they arrived but that was just a narrative choice to throw viewers off. All of the actual “flashbacks” we see of Louise’s daughter only start _after_ she starts understanding the heptapod language. If you rewatch, after the first time she starts grasping it she sees the first real vision of Hannah. This movie is incredible and Amy Adams’ performance becomes even more impressive the second time around. You may not consciously _get_ it but there always feel like something is _off_ when we see Amy reacting to the images of Hannah. It’s only after you realize that she’s confused because she doesn’t have a child to you really appreciate how amazing of an acting job it is.
I always enjoy The Oak's post reaction comments and analysis. He really hits the nail on the head with this one. This movie hits so much different when you have children. I was crying like a baby at the end the first time I watched it
i am SO happy that y'all reacted to this. i clicked on the vid without having watched the movie but with all the comments saying that this was an amazing film, i paused this video, went to watch it, and now i'm here to see your reaction! this movie is simply beautiful. Thanks for introducing it to me 👍🏽
Really for me this movie is a total 5. No matter how many times I watch it, the ending always tears me apart because it's absolutely heartbreaking to think of myself in a situation like this. It's in my top 5 movies. The perception of time in this is incredible. Fantastic reaction from everyone.
Such a good movie. Amy Adams deserved the Oscar for this but she wasn't even nominated, didn't make sense. But she was the best from that year. It won Emma Stone for La La Land
I love this film. It’s based on a short story I believe. I saw it at the London film festival premiere and there were a lot of tears, including mine. I cry every time. A lot of people talk about why she didn’t change things, but the point is she can’t. What happens happens. She now sees time like the aliens, from beginning to end all at once. It’s so sad, but beautiful at the same time. It’s insane that Amy Adams wasn’t oscar nominated for this. It’s also sad the composer died, as he was so talented.
There are a couple hints throughout the movie that tell you what's going on. Both the writing example in the beginning, talking about writing a sentence with both hands. Starting at both the beginning and the end at the same time. And, the multiple references to seeing or experiencing time as nonlinear. The story itself is also nonlinear. It also does a great job of playing on your expectations. We're so used to flashbacks that we initially assume that's what's going on. And that eureka moment when it becomes clear for you and you piece together that everything with Hannah is in the future.
She did not tell Ian the second time so they could make the journey together. She knew it was better to know the one they lost than to distance themselves from her and regret it later. What a great movie.
It's probably my favorite science fiction movie. My pet theory is that there's only one ship that's in twelve places at once - that's why each location only gets about a two-hour window.
Normally I skim through the conversation at the end of your videos, and today was no exception. But, as I went through, I saw 4.25 and 4.3 and was like "Wait, what?" Then I stopped on time to listen to Oak absolutely rip into the heart of this movie. 5 out of 5 for me. Loved your insight, Oak
She didn't change anything about the time line, she eventually tells Ian and they break up, which in the end is not a big deal the main thing is she had Hannah knowing she was going to lose her. Such a powerful movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. I have probably rewatched it at least 50 times. I love it every single time. It was so much fun watching all of you figuring it out and having those ah ha moments. Acting was incredible and the soundtrack was hauntingly beautiful. Great reaction!
I felt like this movie also rewired my brain. Literally, this movie comes full circle just like Hannah's name and the heptipods language. I disagree that the movie wasn't about the aliens. They knew they needed to come to earth, I think, to save themselves in 3000 years. The kicker was that just like our main character, Castello also knew he or she would lose Abbott in this journey across the stars and yet, they still decided to come to save their species and ours. Really brilliant movie. Loved the reaction guys. You guys give in depth takes and I always enjoy the discussions. 🔥
This movie is still one of my favorite of aaaalll time. I still listen to the soundtrack, throws me back in time when I watched the movie for the first time. Its creepy, yes but the aspect about it I love the most is the sense of wonder, touching the unknown, nothing I ever known before, question I didnt know was there to ask. And it is the truth, isnt it? We are bound by time, there is no escaping it for us. Thanks guyss for this, and maybe your friends can come join us again in the future reactions. I'm so happy we have more people this time 💐🤸🏻♀️✨🥰 And i dont know if any of you remember, i commented about this before, but will you guys watch DARK on netflix? Its an amazing show, in german, 3 seasons, 8 episodes each. I think you'll love it 🥰
The beginning of the film is literally her first dream about the future, exactly when the aliens arrive on earth. We only realize it when we see the news for the first time.
She can't see the future before the arrival of the heptapods. The first scene was just a scene of the future. She started seeing the future once she started learning the Heptapod's language.
@@WillyanWagner huh? Am I missing something? In my understanding, the first scene about her daughter was only a narration like she was telling it to her daughter, much like at the end when she did narration to her daughter. Her first dream about the future was a blurry vision of her daughter with some kind of plush giraffe, that's after she learned Abbott & Costello's names.
One of my favorite reactions on this channel. I think there was a misunderstanding at the end. Nothing changes. What happened in her future is written in stone.
A good way to think about how time works in this movie is by comparing it to Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. In EEAAO the main character isn't going back and forth through time, she's experiencing ALL THE POTENTIAL TIMELINES at the exact same time, time isn't a line it's a circle. Hence why their language is like that too.
I absolutely adore this movie. I saw it first as I was pregnant with my first child. I watched it again the following morning. I love the slowness, sound design, atmosphere and the story. It's so beautiful, melancholic and intelligent. I also love how the aliens bring no threat. All violence here is us humans freaking out.
Read the story by Ted Chiang. It's excellent and interesting even if you've already seen the movie (I read it after seeing the movie, and still found it fascinating.). It has details not included in the film. His stories are all great. It's called "Story of Your Life". And yes, Chiang is f'ing intelligent. That for sure. EDIT: And YES, you get pictures, well diagrams anyway! It's a fairly long short story: 60 plus pages. EDIT 2: watching your summaries at the end: There's NO. FLASHBACKS! Haha just kidding with the all caps angriness but I did notice how you all felt it difficult not to say the word "flashback". Genius movie.
So rare to see humanities get some respect in movies Btw, Louis wasnt the weapon, all of humanity was given the language. Because she was a linguist professor & would help spread the language, which would rewire the brains of _a lot_ of humanity. Then, 3,000 years later, humanity would help the aliens. The kangaroo story might not be real, but there are several places/things with similar origins, like "naan bread" (bread bread) "chai tea" (tea tea), "Torpenhow Hill" (hill hill hill hill) & places that translate to "we dont know what you're saying" lol
The first time I watched this was for a school assignment and it blew my mind. I love how it made me think. It is so profound and confusing at the same time. Absolutely love this movie and love that you guys watched it! ❤
I find it fascinating watching reviews like this where the collective subconscious brains pick up on realities that are later revealed in the film, but the modern, conscious brains override the core basal human responses. Point in case, one of you asking if 'Ian is the Dad' after watching a visual exchange. We have forgotten more about our instinctive selves as a species than we could possibly comprehend.
The movie is based on the science fiction Novella "Story of Your Life" The most interesting thing about the movie to me is that when you first experience the movie you get the linear human view. You don't know how the story ends. If you then experience the story a second time, like by reading the novella, you get the alien view. You know how the story will end, you are experiencing the details being filled in.
I think there's a possibility that Louise did change how and when she told Ian. When there was the flash of her speaking to the General, he told her that she brought them all together by calling him on his personal phone, and she had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. There's no way Louise would forget that phone call, which suggests that there was some change that happened. When she asked Ian if he would change anything about his life, he said he would communicate more. It's possible that she told him early into their relationship, he accepted it, and then he later asked her if she wanted to have a baby, signaling that he wanted to experience this life with her despite the heartbreak.
Another interesting view is that she can see way ahead of the time we had been shown. For all we know she see's them getting back together again and that was just a moment in time where he was mad for awhile.
Something about this movie causes people that are trying so hard to break it down and understand it struggle with it. But if you just watch it without trying too hard. They give you everything you need to know when they want you to know it😂
I saw this in theater when it came out. I immediately wanted to watch it again. I downloaded the story to my eReader on the way home from the cinema. It continues to be amazing.
There's a lot of kudos for the director but it's based on a novella (Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang) so the mindblowing concept is from that. Denis Villeneuve directed it and it was one of those stories that you can imagine would be a nightmare to adapt the way it should be.
What a phenomenal movie. There are less than 10 movies that had me confused and bamboozled. Predestination and The Discovery are amongst the more noteworthy ones.
The song at the end that everyone likes also plays during the "last day montage" of Bill&Frank in The Last of Us episode 3. It's "On The Nature Of Daylight" by Max Richter and has been on my spotify since I saw Arrival several years ago. Fantastic film. Heartbreaking, but beautiful. Also, ever since I saw it, Denis Villeneuve has been my favorite director. He followed up with Blade Runner 2049 and Dune. Incredible.
Gotta say the discussion on would you change things by Oak...Is probably the only person ive seen react to this film that really gets it. I've seen multiple people react to this and almost every one of them acted like the right decision was to stop it from happening. It boggles my mind how someone that really thinks it through would have stolen that child's life away from them to avoid the pain of losing that child or as if it is some convoluted form of mercy to eliminate that life so they wouldn't suffer. And i think that though process is so foreign to me. Who are we to tell a person they shouldn't ever live to avoid pain. It is selfish. I think you put it perfectly that as a parent (that loves their child), you couldn't make any other decision.
Thinking about the future, awareness, the level of electromagnetic field that our brain has, healing, travel through dimensions are something that really happen with a certain degree of consciousness, here in Mexico, shamans or shamanism have practiced it and It is something real we have people like Maria Sabina and Pachita
I absolutely love this movie to the point that this movie and Interstellar go back and forth between my favorite and second favorite sci-fi movies that are not star wars. the story is amazing and it really makes you think. I remember not understanding it the first time I saw it but we watched it for a film class and we talked about this movie for like a week and it became one of my favorites because of how it relates time and language, the very beginning of the movie is the literal end of the story and the "flashbacks" of the daughter and glimpses of the future. I love that it is not a huge action movie where everything is fighting and exploding but it actually takes time to talk about language and time like how in Interstellar it is love that transcends time and space. The way that the characters learn to communicate through the shapes with it being all one thing for complex ideas is amazing. I love how they break down how important it is for them to take their time to make sure that the aliens understand our language and that we understand theirs by going through nouns, verbs, adjectives etc. instead of just going and asking "what do you want?" They also emphasize the importance of being able to understand what they are saying so that there is no confusion like with weapon vs tool. The movie is all science fiction but is about the very basic human need of being able to communicate and I love it. The short story that this is based on is also a really good read as well "Story of Your Life" you can get it in a collection book with the author's other short stories and they are all really good. As always, great reaction!
Another question is destiny vs being in control of your fate: can you change the future if you wanted to or is it set in stone? Seeing the future might not be a great weapon unless it is correct (and couldn't change).
This has been my favorite reaction of yours, hands down!!! For some reason or another, some people "guess" the correct ending, and some get their mind blowns. I always thought it was cool to be on this sidez but I'm losing so much by not having that "BAM SUPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" moment of it all makes sense know, it's so clever and fun and new! I love horror and scifi since 6yo, so my rolodex of possibilities in this specific case, for me, was obvious since the first suspect reaction/sentence about time. If it has time in it, movies and books dictates that it must be messed with! But you all had different reactions and understandings of different things, and added your own personal experiences to your interpretations, it's like a whole ass meal for someone like me. I love living vicariously through others 😂😂😂 but really, i do, but to learn even a little bit of different perspectives. The world is too big and has too many things for my tiny teeeeny little mind to even imagine to know in this life. But one can try and do it by others' own experiences, even if it's not how we'd live that moment, doesn't matter, just enjoy the ride. Lovely, everyone ❤ But Oak's reaction wins my heart for this one, it was so pure and new, I still have my mind blown moments, but they're farther and few between cause we consume so much everyday that must be almost impossible for new producers to surprise us. And those win Oscars. Everything Everywhere All At Once is my latest and will remain with me always, cause I recognize Joy as my own soul, but also recognize something of Evelyn, and amazing Waymond, and everyone! But specially, I recognize Jabu. It's been in my life since before I was born. This movie blew my mind cause I never expect to see myself and especially not my Shadow being on any screen, let alone like this! It was so special, sad, hurting, healing, beautiful. Anyway, Arrival is one of my favorite movies, loved the reaction ❤ Oh!! And I forgot to say how it felt like the closest to watching it for the first time, the best feeling ❤ And since I've watched it before several times and all kinds of videos on it, I thought I knew every secret, but watching it again with you guys taking over for details, my mind relaxed and I noticed things my mind hadn't put together till now!! Like the way Hannah was sick could be related to the aliens (physiologically), and if they knew that but decided it was worth one life for billions of their species, how she was chosen because she was one of (if not the only one) the people that would get that gift and when meeting in the middle timewise, she would get the job done. Or if they tried other times in the future with other people like her (the war starts because of the aliens, to begin with, so maybe it's not their first try?), and so many other things outside and inside the script and vision. Cool stuff.
Okay, I was listening to this reaction while playing Starfield, and I come across the symbol for House Va'run which is a circular design, and I immediately think it looks like the alien writing in this movie. Then at the end Mr Flicks mentions Witcher and Elder Scrolls, which the Elder Scrolls games are made by the same people as Starfield. It's all connected. 🤣
There are maybe NO movies that can make you THINK and FEEL to the depths that this one does. Many do one of those, but few do both SO successfully. Great comments everyone, and the guy who gave it a 5? He was correct. LOL!
Perfect movies like this as rare. Only note: a small screen of the characters in China and Russia who were making progress and frustrated by their army (assume many had the same idea. Xoxo )
