I have been racking my brain thinking about what vehicle you are going to pick that fits your criteria and there is very few cars that fit. What about the another Gladiator, but 4XE or importing a Toyota Troop Carrier diesel, but would it fit your fuel economy and not importing rule, this is a tough one. Also seen your Gladiator in the carpark at Exmouth WA, waited around for a while, would have loved to had quick chat, but not to be, enjoy your new adventure.
I always enjoy your analytic perspective Dan and this video comparing and contrasting overland vehicles that are right for you is no exception. Thanks for your continuous energy injection into this topic!
Very good advice. I'm refitting a 1984 vw bus that came from Argentina to Alaska! Transmission was worn out so new transmission is in now and ready to do some local test runs.. Cheers...
My whole family have ridden motorbikes (Dad, Sister, Brother), but somehow I never did. I can get around, but I'm extremely uncomfortable and not confident in traffic. They just never spoke to me, I guess.
Always great to see your analysis, it's good to really think about what you need for your own goals and knock off options that don't match. Then we can at least be honest with what's an emotional choice and what's a rational one.
Hey Dan have you ever considered the ultimate and original overlanding vehicle the bicycle? I have overland all of North America some of South America most of Europe all of developed Asia, All by bicycle. #bikepacking And did it all with 13 pounds worth of gear.
Overlanding choice for me, budget allowed, would have to be a full-size pickup truck with 4wd. More stuff to be able to carry, the added towing capacity, plus the obvious head & leg room for long hours over AND off the roads. Ford or Ram 1-ton with a custom off-road flatbed and canopy would be ideal. That leaves plenty of towing abilities up to class-IV for towing a supply trailer or even an off-road sleeper trailer with added amenities. And the added 1-ton axles strength makes upgrades to bigger tires a cinch without worrying over drivetrain wearing out as one would on a Jeep or Toyota. 🤨
I own a pinzgauer and can confirm the pain getting parts. Just to change front brake shoes and hardware is about $300 in parts with me doing the labor. Or if I want disc brakes I can shell out $2k for a conversion kit, just the fronts for that price. I love the thing and can't help but smile anytime I drive it, but it's 100% a project/fun truck
I'm reckoning, with you saying colder and interior space .... something with a "box" on the back of. Sort of an Australian style chop, but rather than a canopy on the back a live-in box. However your 25mpg rules out most things I think are available in North America
Nope- your vehicle choice is pretty much what I would go with, had I known it was an option! LOL. Pretty spot on! For me, my travel vehicle will be a modified Ford Econoline van.
@@alittlebitgone I didn't expect to hear of a cracked frame. Total bummer. Partially boxing the frame is possible but a lot of work. I love the utility and overall convenience of my E350 and would definitely consider doing frame modification if I were to build a full on Overland rig based on it. Mine is just a stock 2WD van with KO2 tires and it has taken me where I didn't think it would take me.
I know your not a big fan of trucks but what about a Colorado/Canyon with the 4 cylinder duramax. There’s a company that puts a 36 gallon tank in the stock location of the vehicle. Unloaded it’s gets a little over 30mpg on the freeway and I’ve seen as low as 22 mpg in the city. You have support from AEV.
Dan, I was gonna guess an old G Wagon Diesel from the mid 90s. I know you dallied with an OM606 conversion before the Africa Jeep. But the G would be moving sideways to a Jeep albeit with good MPG and better Payload
Ok, so I'm trying to figure out what you picked and that's a pretty fun exercise. From from deductions of what you didn't mention here that is smaller then a full size... 4Runner, New Defender and, if you could put your hand on one... the Grenadier. I'm gonna go with the 4Runner since it's more affordable. My last guess for your Australia trip I was completely in the left field so I can't wait to see if I'm closer this time! Cheers from Montreal!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Ok Dan, Good Point. So then I’ll go for that new Defender or even better… the truck I currently own… a LR4! Cause air suspension is a great upgrade! That’d be super cool to see you build that! Anyhow, I’ll be thrilled to watch your next episode!
I agree. Gladiator is great but it is large and turns heads. Which i don't like when I'm in cities. Hard to blend in. I prefer the truck living space separate though. I don't like to live where i drive. But i do like vans. So it's a struggle choosing. See you on the road!
jk 3.8l v6 has 205hp it's not very exciting but it's usually enough. people are getting a bit carried away with adding hp these days it doesn't really help offroad at all apart from a few exceptions like steep sand dunes. and on road you don't really need to have an extra 50% more power just to maintain 70mph over that 1 mountain range.
@@metaxaanabeer even excessive amounts of torque aren't necessary on 4wd's. you have low range for torque multiplication and newer vehicles have far more gears to keep the motor in the sweet spot all the time. gone are the days of three speed manuals and autos where one gear is too low and you're revving and the next gear is too tall to get into.
Wild card guess (mostly because so much has been ruled out): Jeep 4xe. Add Ursa Minor Pop Up, improved GVWR vs older JK, small and maneuverable, improved fuel economy, built in battery for all electrical needs, highly capable with 4 low, lockers, etc. and still a Jeep! The unknown: how to do daily recharge to keep EV topped up (can this be accomplished with partial solar?). If daily kilometre range stays relatively low and there is a way to recharge in the field, it is conceivable that MPG would be amazing! The future of overlanding undoubtedly includes EV’s - is that time now? Exciting! Looking forward to the reveal!
I have thought about something like a ford transit connect…roof pop up, improve suspension etc. one space, small, built for commercial use, good on fuel etc. don’t think I would abuse it the same way your travels might…🇨🇦
Here in Europe, things are a bit differnt. I would absolutely love a vehicle like the Jeep but they're so godly expensive. Wranglers start at about 30k euro second hand so not affordable at all. For me, I think I will get a Hilux for my Africa trip in a couple of years. Especially if you can get a model from around 2011. They have great Diesel engines with amazing millage and so many options.
That’s about what they cost second hand in North America too. 50-70k usd for a well equipped new one. I think people in US/Canada are way more comfortable with going massively into debt for a vehicle than other places. Plenty of people will spend an entire years salary on their car.
Same, EU citizen. For wrangler I would have to sell a kidney, maybe 2. Even old defeneder is extremely pricy. Out best decision maybe be Hilux indeed, for its reliabilty and parts sold everywhere
Wranglers are prohibitively expensive in Europe, I feel your pain. Thankfully mid-size pickups like the HiLux and D-Max are better priced and as such I have a D-Max.
Small offroad trailers are very popular, and practical. Using one as a comfortable base camp, supply carrier / hut, disconnecting them and taking a light vehicle on adventures in surrounding areas is an appealing idea.
Absolutely I agree Tom, for the use case you described I think they have a lot of benefits. For long term global overlanding, I don't think they're very good, and there's a reason very, very few people do it. I talked about it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GRr8AJYXyu4.html
i See the point for a family or someone who does not want to do a massive conversion on the vehicle itself. These Trailers hold water, kitchen, stoarge and a roof top tent. So nothing that you can not fit in the back of a Jeep. And also remember twoing a trailer is fine when you go to the wilderness or a campground, but in populated areas it will be a pain in the butt to park.
I agree on the combined living space, and not segmented between cab and "bed". I think that is why I just can't get away from a SUV. Closest I would think would be the gladiator right? It still has the divider, but with the removable top. I'm really curious how the integrated top from Ursa Minor will work with that.
Absolutely, the Ursa Minor top for the Gladiator will be a *very* interesting thing to see, I'm really excited about it. Let's see what John and the team bring to Overland Expo in a few weeks!
Having owned and camped out of vans and 4x4 SUVs with one driving/living space I find there is no/ not enough convenient external places for dirty, wet, salty, oily, smelly gear. Etc. So next I'm looking to a flat deck ute/ truck with storage boxes under the deck. Probably a jack off habitat.
8:00 about fuel consumption on Land Cruisers: I saw video with a guy traveling Australia in a crazy built Land Cruiser 80. He said he uses 20l/100km. With a diesel engine! He compensated by having 3 diesel tanks!
I can't even imagine the fuel bill... that kind of consumption means I can't afford the things I do, so it's a non-starter for me. I've read of built 80s and 100s on the US getting 8MPG ( 30l/100km )
@@TheRoadChoseMe It is very crazy! Just a small increase would have been nice. Although I still think I may end up going back to a Wrangler in a few years. It’s just much easier and more fun to drive.
I also believe it's a Ford Ranger. I originally included the Chev Colorado but it's not nearly as global. Ranger is sold in 180 countries. Ford makes the Ranger in four factories including Thailand (where models sold in Australia are sourced), South Africa (where the VW Amarok version is also made), South America and Detroit. Put a four wheel camper , AT habitat, Alu-Cab or similar camper top where you can stand up and it meets most of his talking points. Not sure how available the camper tops will be, long build time for many.
Hey Dan, I use to have a VW Multivan (Caravelle) 4x4, 2016, diesel, small engine, plenty of space, capable of fair offroad with good tires and a lift, superb living space inside, not too big, not too obvious, very reliable, and definitely fun! And it's not quite a Van per se, it's more like a normal vehicle with plenty of space.. Did you consider it?
I am really curious to see what you come up with. Based on your criteria list, I'd say a 1hz 78 troopy, 300tdi/td5 defender 110, or another jeep with a roof conversion would be your ideal vehicle. But then you'd still be moving sideways, and not really improving. But it is hard to say what 'improving' means for you. Do you want more space? Defender 130 with a pop up roof, sportsmobile, maybe even a 4x4 van. But bigger means more fuel usage, less nimble (those are almost always as big as the gladiator). There are a lot of smaller vans available, the T2, T3, and perhaps even a T4 synco van come to mind. But those aren't really affordable, not really 'commonplace', and not always great offroad. Anyway, really curious to find out what 'improving' means for you.
I said a few videos back, I'm looking to improve in three major categories. 1) Better fuel consumption. 20mpg US is the MINIMUM. Hoping for closer to 25. 2) Better interior living space for 2 people. Stand up, walk around, cook, eat, sleep all inside. 3) Better payload than ever before. Meatloaf said 2 outta 3 ain't bad, and I'll likely get that.
@@TheRoadChoseMe you’ve got me beat. I don’t know if any 4x4 vehicle that can be converted for walking around inside that can manage 27.5mpg stock sitting at 120kmh. Normally I’d say a van, but I believe don’t mostly reach 20mpg when empty.
Dan please fix that loose weather strip over the left rear door! It’s driving me nuts! Lol I’m glad you are keeping Sandy even if you are going to store it again. It’s become your trademark. If it has the 3.6L, it was rated at 285 hp. If it has the 3.8L / 202 hp. I think your wrong about Sandy being long in tooth . I’m sure it has more expeditions left in it, even if it’s not the most comfortable vehicle. Jeeps are rebuildable much like and perhaps even more so than old Land Rovers.
Trust me, on the list of things to fix that weather strip is a loooong way down the importance list! But yes, I'll hold onto her for now, but hard decisions have to be made soon
It's hard to choose a global overland vehicle had large interior living space, manual transmission, gasoline engine (no turbo) with good mileage powerful enough for 4WD/AWD off road, and can fit inside the ship container I think these options can only found on Minivan such as Mitsubishi Delica, Volkswagen Transporter Another option to consider is Pop-up camper sit on Single/Extra cab half-ton Pickup Truck
F150, 2.7l eco boos, 8ft bed regular cab, with an AT habitat or something like that, so it has a large interior living space, good fuel economy still, and affordable
Honestly this is a tough one to figure out. Maybe a ford ranger with the 6ft bed and an AT habitat ? It doesn’t meet his truck criteria, but I can’t think of what else it could be
I love a V8, but there is no reason you need one if you have the right rig and you know how to use it (V8s can be great for powering through a sticky situation). I love my 2003 Silverado and plan to replace the poptop with a camper shell and modify the suspension so I can go out farther. But I am in North America so it's no problem. I would do some serious thinking if I headed to South America or Africa (although honestly I would absolutely consider the Troopy as well - the reliability and capability outweighs my worry about repair and fuel costs). In any case, your criteria is very logical and since you've been there, definitely worth considering! Of course, no one mentioned the KLR as an overland platform, lol - I think that would be an interesting choice to talk about and to do a general comparison to 4 wheel vehicle overlanding.
I love my powerwagon. It gets 15 mpg on a really good day on the expressway. When it had the factory 33s on it might have hit 18 once. But the factory tires pop like balloons. So a 2500 is totally not what you want.
You've effectively ruled out every vehicle I know about. Truck with camper - too big, bad fuel economy. Van - hard no as per earlier video. Still you want decent living space and ability to walk around, decent load capacity AND good fuel economy!!? There is nothing left to pick from!!!
Now I’m really stumped! I was thinking you’d go for an older RAM or Ford with a 5.9 Cummins or 7.3 engine with a small camper on the back. Now I’m going way out in left field. Perhaps it’s a Delica!
One thing I have noticed is that Jeeps are world wide vehicles. Not altered to meet particular markets. That would give me huge peace of mind. But I have a wife and that means it’s too small but I loved the JXL until you opened your knowledgeable mouth! Thanks for saving me.
Without knowing the details of the journey and what continent you’ll be on makes it incredibly difficult to give an accurate suggestion for a vehicle specific to a certain trip
When you talk about full size trucks there is a pretty big difference between generations of trucks. I had a 2008 Nissan Titan. It is relatively small compared to what's considered a full size now. Park my old Titan next to the current Titan and you will see what I mean. I Overlanded that Titan a lot of places. It's marginally bigger then a Toyota Tacoma which is what I currently have. That Titan was pretty great on the trails. I went plenty of the same places that Jeeps did. The Wrangler isn't very small these days.
I'm pretty sure Epic Family Road Trip had both their Wranglers extended and haven't had the issues you've expressed concern about. But I definitely see your concerns in addition to horrible departure angle.
So 25 MPG. Vehicles ruled out: all types of pickup trucks, medium duty or larger trucks, Wranglers, Broncos, Land Cruisers, Sprinters or other vans, and electric cars. 4Runners and the new Defenders do not give 25mpg. At this rate, I can only think of Subaru Outback but that doesn't have a low range. What is out there that are not all these vehicles that a normal American can buy that give 25 mpg, go offroad with low range, and travel the world? Let's find out.
That's what I'm thinking! He eliminated about everything you would see at an overland show except a motorcycle and a Subaru. I'm wondering if parts are worldwide?
I recommend you ditch the North American viewpoint and go local. Choose where in the world you want to go, research what the locals travel around in, fly there and buy local. That way you save shipping costs, you know there are local parts and mechanics to fix it and you will fit into the local scene. It would be interesting for people to follow your experiences adapting to the local situation. Plus you can then sell it locally, get your money back, save again on shipping and be ready for the next experiment. Go local!
I think when you compare the costs of vehicles and especially vehicle mods between the USA and say Europe, it's much cheaper to drive in America. Also it's quite difficult to register a car as a foreigner in a lot of countries.
it will be a jeep wrangler again ... no big surprise ! a ford ranger not because of turbo engine ... but even the 3.6 L pentastar is pretty thirsty thou !!! good roads to have, i wish you, Dan !
Man, I'm having a real hard time to solve this riddle With all these special requirements of living space and fuel mileage all I can get to is some kind of mini van. And old VW Vanagon Syncro... ???. I'm stumped.
another great video, thank you! the only 2 I don't think I've heard you mention are the Ford Ranger and the Ineos Grenadier. The Ranger would be very much the same as what you have, so it must be the Grenadier..
I talked about the Grenadier in a previous video. They look great, but a multi year waitlist doesn't work for me. I want to go on adventures ASAP. Let's see in a few years when they'r easy to get
Yes and no. Being "given" a vehicle is never that simple. It comes with strings attached and obligations. They can't be modified, and even if it could, there are not any aftermarket upgrades for it yet anyway.
I am curious to see your vehicle of choice that is the Goldilocks of everything are looking for. I am just intrigued to see if a such a vehicle exists. We are actually driving down the Pan American and currently heading North before heading down South. I have a 200 series Landcruiser ( 2021 ) that I had it built. Unlike you, I don’t plan on living in it except occasional camping and have a Roofnest tent installed. Other than that, I want to keep the vehicle light and nimble so other than a refrigerator and some drawers, there is not much we are carrying except essentials and luggage. One thing I can comment on is the fuel tank capacity. I have a 40 gal LRA Aux tank on it and along with the main tank, I have 64+ gallons or 250+ l of fuel on board and it will easily do 700 miles or 1100 kms between the tanks so carrying extra fuel on top of that is a very rare situation I am going to encounter. I picked the vehicle for its reliability and the availability of service and parts and also the mods. Not too constrained on fuel costs as much as the ability to have decent amount of onboard fuel and also we are not planning to live in it full time. Hotels would be our primary living arrangement. Yeah, the 5.7 liter v8 sips a lot of gas but it has the widest range of options for auxiliary tanks. I don’t ever foresee a situation where we need to carry extra fuel on the PAH once I top up both tanks. I personally would not buy a Jeep due to its poor reliability and same goes for Land Rovers. I found it interesting that you presented an argument against LRs in this video when I saw in one of your replies couple of videos ago you said how easy is it to get parts for LR when someone brought up Leigh & Steph’s LR lockers blowing up. So I don’t know which one is it as you seem to contradict yourself within weeks. As far as the LC200 goes, I can speak firsthand that if you install an Aux.tank, there are rare occasions you have to carry extra fuel and those rare occasions like crossing the Canning Stock, you have to carry fuel on any vehicle. Let me see what your Goldilocks overland vehicle is, hopefully soon.
That sounds like an incredible vehicle Sam, and you absolutely won't ever need that kind of range anywhere on the Pan-Am. I had a 600km range, and I carried a Jerry can once (salt flats in Bolivia) to increase that a touch. I imagine burning that amount of fuel and staying in hotels your budget will be 3-5x what mine is, so while I'm sure it's a brilliant option and trip, it's just not possible for me, so I can't consider it. As for the LR Defender - I do think the old ones are an excellent choice, but I can't get one here in North America, unless it's a very old import, which for multiple reasons stated in the video I'm not going to do. Have fun on the road!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Yeah I don’t foresee a situation where I need to carry extra fuel on the roof on the PAH with 64 gallons of onboard fuel. I get about 13-15 mpg of combined driving mileage and even at 10 mpg, I can cover 650 miles or 1000+ kms . Once we finish this trip, we are planning to do Africa ( hopefully things in Sudan would be calmer by then but who knows where else problems can crop up lol ). Yeah, I really like the LC200 and I had a Lexus LX470 ( LC100) before which was rock solid and I am big on the reliability of Landcruisers. I am not very handy with working on vehicles so I needed one where I can do regular maintenance service and keep going. Also don’t need living arrangements except occasional camping and I got it covered with the rooftop tent. I want to keep the variables of “ things that can go wrong” that will stall the progress so reliability and traveling light is my top concern. Don’t have a budget constraint so fuel and hotels are no issue and cause for concern. I just need to keep moving with the least interruptions and headaches and hence picked up this LC200 when Toyota announced its sun setting the LC in North America. Of course, I can always get the Lexus option as LC 300 but builds are going to take a few years as they don’t have much for the 300 as much as the 200 series. I am curious to see your Goldilocks vehicle though and I am really intrigued to see what is the unicorn you got after all that elimination criteria 😀
To be honest you’ve eliminated so many options I’m now stumped 🤔 My guess is some kind of hybrid or small turbocharged vehicle. But you also want max payload and living space but don’t want a big truck. Ford ranger maybe? 😅
@Robert Voss Change is good. I hope he goes for the ultimate platform. Troopy would be the perfect balance between size and practicality all while having great space to work with
Hi！Dan. Do you think a VW T series, or a VW caddy good enough to go Pan America highway? For the T6 ,there are deisel,gosline version as well. T6 has a good space to live in, good fuel mileages (15KM/LITTER, gasline engine. 22up km/litter deisel engine. I watched your film talking abt deisel , especially the new generation deisel cars are not in the options.) I am looking for a good indoor living space where I can spend time in to do my painting works during the trip. I would have a lower fuel costs as much as possible. How o you think these two car series are doable? I probably would stick on main roads and would use drone to check out the roads ahead b4 vantureing in a offroads. Do you think it is a good idea?
With how many options he eliminated, which is about everything you would see at an overland show, I can see the only options left being an AWD vehicle like a Subaru or a motorcycle - but you can't live in or out of one of those.
Reliability and repair options are key. When your vehicle stands a considerably higher chance of breaking down in a remote area in Africa, South America,Asia or the Australian outback, fuel consumption becomes a secondary or tertiary consideration. Unfortunately, Jeeps have less than satisfactory reliability. They are very widespread in North America, partly in South America and Europe, little in Australia. In all other areas, they are very rare to non-existent indeed. Not the global vehicle of choice.
There are Official Jeep dealers in quite a few countries in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. There are unofficial Jeep dealers in many more countries. The great thing is the Wrangler is sold in all of them, so a dealer in Nigeria or Morocco can easily get parts for the engine or transmission in my Wrangler. Not so with a Tacoma or Tundra or something that is only sold in North America. Jeep were more common and better supported than I was expecting to be honest.
I have a 100 Series Land Cruiser. It's true the gas mileage isn't great, but the Jeep Wrangler does not get double the gas mileage over a UZJ100. Possibly 5 to 6 miles to the gallon more? I base this on the gas mileage I get on my 2023 Tacoma and it's gas mileage is similar to something like a Wrangler. I get about 20 on the Tacoma and 15 on the UZJ100. Anyway, everything is compromises. Maybe a 4Runner? I had one, and it was great. It's in the same ballpark on gas consumption and give you a little bit more room and capacity over the Wrangler.
Perhaps a newer JKU or JLU Jeep Wrangler with the diesel and the Ursa Minor...though you did mention wanting more space. Perhaps a diesel Chevy Express or Ford Econoline 4x4 conversion (but not the expensive Sportsmobile)...more space but not as serviceable worldwide?
Dan, You haven't spoken much on the use of Hybrids. Some SUVs have come in hybrid gas/ev configurations for a while. I know full EV wasn't an option, but how about a hybrid? Several SUVs from Toyota have come in hybrid configuration.
AMAZING channel ! So glad I found you ! Q: MPG. Do you really get +20mpg on a Jeep? I have no experience with Jeeps, and always so wary about their reliability vs Toyotas, for example. I have had LC100, three LC200, and currently one 80 and one 200. AND, you are right. The bad MPG kills it for both, unfortunately, because the 80 is so capable. But, truly.... the Jeep fully loaded reeally gives you + 20 mpg???? With best regards, Gl
@@TheRoadChoseMe Thank you ! Is it Petrol / Gas, or diesel? I think you got it used, so JK, hence probably gas... The other key reason why I haven't jumped to Jeep, is reliability. BUT you are so right, the Landcruisers are BAD BAD BAD on MPG :(
I bought the one I drove around Africa used, it's a gas engine (the old 3.8 ltr) The one I have now that I'm turning into a live-in camper is a 3.0 EcoDiesel - worst tank so far is 25mpg, best is 29 !
Humm common living area not to big not to small. Humm mini 4x4 mini van ish is there a VW in the future. Or something similar that would meet most the criteria
The Silverado 1500 3.0 Diesel 4WD gets 22 city/27 Highway, Trail Boss trim. It isn't as big as a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup and has enough payload for a Go Fast Camper, and gear. Probably not a great idea to take a modern diesel into 3rd world countries though. I am guessing Dan picked an older vehicle with a old school diesel. It could be a diesel Maltec based on a 80 series, or something similar.
I am now on the edge of my seat waiting what your final decission will be. No import, no US Land Cruiser, no full size truck, no Jeep or similar. What is left?
It’s funny how you said ‘full size truck’ then threw up a 3/4 ton. 1/2 half ton used to be full-size, my stock gladiator is as big if not a little bigger at the red lights as an f-150
Dan, I havent heard you rule out a 4runner yet. It'd be a compelling choice; especially if you could get it with an Ursa Minor top or similar. Thoughts?
Great video, thanks for sharing. I think that a Toyota Hilux would be a great option because it is really tough, reliable, probably, you can find parts everywhere, and it has a really good fuel efficiency. What do you think?
@@TheRoadChoseMe that's a shame, it could be a good one. Anyway I've seen your videos and I noticed that you have a lot of experience and apply practicality so I'm sure that the one you chose is a great one. Can't wait to find out :)
You are dead wrong about big rigs being expensive. They are actually very affordable. A surplus Mercedes 4x4 911/917/1017/1124/1224 from the Army or Fire department is 20k. A Unimog is the same price. A LAK II or Zeppelin II shelter is 5K. Add a few mods, and you are set for 30k.
Well… I’m driving a 7.5t rig with Unimog rims and tires. New a tire is 600€. And with 80% profile surplus they usually run for 200€. Fuel consumption is about 16L/100km. With a Mog it’s around 18. The thing is, it sounds a lot, but it is not too bad, because you can carry a lot of fuel, food and water. We have a lots of range. We tend to travel slow and refill in cheap places. Especially Africa is usually not expensive.
@@voyager11221 Hmmm...well...I was just assuming he wasn't running a JL since that's what he just had, but other than the 4Runner and JL...I don't see what else fits the priorities he mentioned in this video.
@@TheRoadChoseMe I was thinking the Nissan NV2500 4x4 dealer conversion, checks a lot of boxes but I suspect you eliminated it for various reasons, thirsty V8 for one.
I think your comment on imported vehicles is valid if you're only going to use the vehicle in the USA if you're travelling to another part of the world where that vehicle was sold it's probably easier to get parts that it is for a US vehicle example I can't understand why your friends and is having problems in Europe sold in Europe I think it's to do with Americans being reliant on America I can't see how this is valid if you're driving in Africa vehicle that was available and common in Africa
