What actually happened between Tiresias and Odysseus || EPIC The Musical || Snippet || Animatic 

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*Tiresias'

Hades: The hell? I just sent Orpheus and on his way, now another one?

@@khoinguyen5004 Haha XD That’s true. Poor Hades. Hades: Why are all these living mortals just casually waltzing into my domain? Is the giant three-headed dog not enough of a deterrent? Odysseus: *still singing in the distance* -And if I gotta drop another infant from a wall In an instant so we all don't die- Hades: ……Okay, did I mishear that? Cause it sounded like- Tiresias: *sighs* No, no you did not. Hades: …You know what? I’m not even gonna confront this one. Too much drama. Tiresias: Good call.

someone actually drew that as well :)) ru-vid.com90pUyPOTF9E

“Sheesh no wonder Athena abandoned you…”

Asking to see the future in general is just always scuffed in Greek myths, ain't no amount of careful wording or directness can change that lol

@@casuallectures2655 3 things to never do in Greek myths: 1. challenge the gods 2. receive a prophecy 3. accuse Tiresias of treason

But it’s no longer him!

If only the prophets worked that way

it says more about Ithaca than him 😂😂

@@xamified4432 truuuu

Me too, but honestly, the line "There is a world where I help you get home, but that's not a world I know" convinced me that Tiresias KNOWS that even if he told Odysseus about the cows, it wouldn't change a thing. It was Eurylochus who made that call, DESPITE knowing it was a horrible idea, because the crew lost all hope.

You know, fair point. Especially when he said, "I have the answers you seek. There is no present world where I help /you/ get home. ...also there are a lot of men who think you're dead." The very first time i heard it, i did think he was referring to Antinous, most persistent suitor, haunting Penelope, and the trail of bodies being the 107 OTHER suitors. Hell it could be both and a case of that good ol' prophet concealed meaning

@@Val-zu5hz That's exactly what it is. Prophet gotta prophet. To someone who doesn't already know how the story goes (and doesn't have animatics guiding them to the right conclusion) most people, Odysseus included, would infer "Ody is going to die, someone else makes it home, and Penelope ends up with another man." Which of course then prompts Odysseus to go "I will do ANYTHING to prevent that future from coming to be. I will NOT die. I WILL make it home. I WILL see Penelope again."

Noo!! Stop!! 😂😂😂

@@ERR0R_SANS1X bc it is 😭😭😭 thats the whole point of this video

WHO? 😂

I mean the whole point of a prophecy is to be cryptic.. It’s supposed to allude to future events, but not fully tell you… so you the audience and the protagonist are shocked when things happen

@@Anumybeloved ok... but you know if even in the original story he doesn't tell him anything useful/decipherable for his journey? (... I'd like to read it, damn iit. I never have time 😣)

​@@floranox816 He tells him about the cows, but the crew doesnt care, only Ody

@@izawa9211 Thank you😊

If you'd like a bit more of a meta explanation, (I also havent read the original text), Jorge really wants EPIC to have this adoption of Ruthlessness for Odysseus being the central theme, instead of, I THINK Homer tried to make his flaw pride in identifying himself to Polyphemus. Poseidon being his hubris coming back (and being a jerk). So this Tiresias gets to just be all cryptic prophet about, "I'll help you get home, but it won't be you who makes it back. (You're gonna have to do a lot of heinous shit)" And then Ody just gets to be super astute & smart about Helios' cattle (Someone helps him choose Scylla as opposed to the whirlpool on the other side, but dont remember who)