What are domestic helpers really doing on their phones? | Talking Point | Episode 36 

True, if they do not want that to happen, hire a robot to take care of your children and houses

However, things can go wrong if its inappropriate for the video

True but what if someone can track where they live and something bad will happen

I agree to a certain extent, but at the end of the day they are employed here, not here to be exposing employers privacy and wasting time that they are getting paid for. I see it a little like how students are not allowed to use phones/use phones with restrictions in our schools. Thats just not the purpose you're at that place for.

@@caseycaseyacaaca Likewise they are signing up for a full-time job as a lifestyle to get a much higher wage than back home. If mobile phones are a deal breaker then they aren't that desperate to earn big money overseas.

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Everyone can definitely use their phone. Domestic helpers are humans too, they need some entertainment as well. But there is a difference between educating your child and educating your domestic helper that you hired. Parents can easily educate and discipline their child if they have leaked any personal info or did something wrong. And they are kids, they are young and naive. On the other hand, it is not easy to educate or discipline a domestic helper. Number 1, they are adults they should have known better. Number 2, its a relationship between an employer and an employee. And usually what does an employer do when the employee does something wrong? Scold right? Like your boss scolding you for not submitting something in on time. But they are just maids and they live in our houses. We don't want to scold them. Cause the relationship will be ruined, they might get mad or beh song or they dont do their work. This happened to my aunt, she did not scold her domestic helper just kinda told her off (not in a angry way tho) then the maid went to abuse her 6yo son for a month and she decided to fired her

Parents give permission. Everything is about permission.

There are already articles saying that tiktok is not safe for kids especially those under 12. Parents should definitely monitor the child's phone in case of any unsafe content.

I got saw

They socially communicating tho. Try to think for them as a human.

most ppl don't treat maids nicely for sure . if maid female or male does well job .why restrict them phones . obviously they aren't communicated with as a human

@@shirleywong4333 that is a fair humane observation.

look at the face of that reporter she looks like an old hag witch

exactly

Slavery indeed

@@nicholas919cleare they had a choice, slaves didn’t. These maids got paid on working and could quit if they wanted to.

I wanna keep this beautiful Chinese/Asian host as my maid. Will see what she does.

@@nicholas919cleare you don’t follow your employer protocols you’re free to find another job… that’s not slavery it’s for safety of both parties! Theres a right place and time for tiktok… from my work we’re not allowed to use our fone nor take videos at all but we respect their protocols but I don’t consider it slavery…

I strongly agree with your opinion. Well said!!!

Agreed.

Shame on those who... 1. Brought up this idea 2. Created this cover story I only hope God can punish those responsible for those who created this story This domestic workers are human beings with emotional needs. Like all of us. The only difference is that they have a different profession. To domestic workers who is reading this comment. Thank you so much for your sacrifices, patience in hardships, accepting a low pay, enduring abusive employer(s) and many other things that S'poreans, PR and expats can never endure even for a day. And again. Shame on you CNA, the creators and supporter of this cover story. God is watching and HE will give justice. Just wait for it. :)

Lazy Most cant f boil water.i have no desire for these places i rather lappland and sahel

@@trafficmonsoonacademy562 :/ my family has a maid and thats because both meh mom and dad have to go to work

Exactly

Some people need to work and can’t take care of children

Some people can't iron, wash their own clothes, hang their own clothes, cook or clean etc. And I know people like that.

betul!!!

@@sev9642 for real?! If they are a parents they should know that taking care of their children is an obligation. Yes I know parents have to work.. we all do. Still though the bottom line is you want kids make time for them. If you can't make time for your own flesh and blood then they shouldn't have kids yet. Parents should never use work as an excuse as the reason why they have no time to take care of their children. This is just opinion btw.

Logic level 9999

Yeah don't worry. They will delete your comments like they deleted my 5 comments..lol. this is the first time in seeing a media with no backbone or empathy.

@@dinil5566 at least we know they're not ignoring our comments. Haha

Indeed

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Disgusting I expect nothing less from the Singaporean government.

Mainly filipinos

@@wish6150 So what's ur point? Chinese have privilege to cannot speak english?

@@meemyra94 i think my point is very clear and that comment of urs isnt necessary.

11pm geez that's unfair . maid isn't servant

should i say, better than the host as well 😂

This video is just b.s privileged ass propaganda. I'm not even a Singaporean but I feel ashamed of people like these so makes such videos thinking this is the biggest issue of all.

not everyone is smart as you

Well Singaporean never treat outsider like a human. They are so racist to the max that they looks at other like a dirt

Noda Megumi you're so right, me and my sister experienced it first hand.

Uh, no it's not a human right to use a phone omfg, seriously?

The irony is that the very concept of domestic helpers as is currently being practised in Singapore is akin to modern day slavery. Domestic helpers are some of the least protected segments of the community, which explains our appalling rates of employee abuse. Yet, instead of applying widespread reform, we only choose to pay heed as and when.

Phones are not human rights

slaiyfershin even in this they’re basically showing people how easy it is to track them and showing the clients exact location 😂 🤦🏾‍♂️

slaiyfershin exactly...

True

make sense...

It’s the “permission” that changes everything.

gerlin plays correct!

my thoughts exactly.

Hahaha

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The stupidity of the News channel made the hard work for the real criminals and made it public

Ikr and ppl is not rly convinced

how smart, right? LOL!

These idiots don't understand the definition of hypocrisy. As if these employers don't use their mobile phones for personal use when they are in the office. Ban them from having it and give them the taste of their own medicine.

@@RajeshRavindranathan Using phones is one thing, possibly giving out info on employers houses is another. Those tik toks that they take are literally giving info on where they live, how many they live with and what time the house is usually empty (scammers will look out for this!) Yes it is cruel if they restrict use for no reason. I don't get how people can get confused between the two.

​@@CT--qj2ws , Yeah scammers are going to look where small kids live? You ok? Merely taking out the kids outside can attract pedophiles, so stop taking the kids outside as well? One can do whatever they want to feel safe but that does not include the right to impinge the rights of others. I don't know how people don't understand that simple rule.

Agreed. It was extremely unnecessary to show everything on camera.

This is how scammers and blackmailer gets information Yes it might be rude But they are showing what are the after math if information are shared to the wrong person

I think it's more scary than rude or disrespectful. If she could work out the location with her limited tech skills, imagine a stalker with better capabilities

you are correct.

that is true even when they expose the front gate and knocking on the door but they also dont understand y privacy is so important thats y i dont have tik tok

isnt that a story we all know already?

It is , but I want to know her stand about it. If she will show that much interest ( to the point of stalking) and enthusiasm as well on the issue to give awareness and give empathy to at least lessen the burden & struggles of the helpers.

I agree 100% ... .

These people are so close minded you would think they would be smart enough to understand that but they just sum up more reasons to abuse and exploit the OFWs

But they are here to work not make tik toks Am not trying to be mean I mean u can let them play their phone but stalkers can find where they live because they show their house and stuff

And they are low quality races

Slavery

Rachael C Honestly, just about everyone replying here have a heart of stone. They think Slaves don’t deserve to have any fun.

@@bobprim5958 That's not what I meant. I guess we used that word too loosely. EVERYONE deserves their right to have fun esp using their own hps for leisure or to contact their loved ones. Sorry you took it the wrong way and honestly there should not be any "slaves" in this day and age and if there are, my heart goes out to them. It's horribly unacceptable.

Rachael C Not to be a beyotch but Bob was agreeing with your initial comment. Just saying.😁

Ricel Amarille lol yeah I was a little confused but it could mean both ways. Good to know 😅

Rachael C same here. So so dissapointed with CNA. A content to be watch nationful hopefully worldwide, contain only poor domestic helper’s right to be fully controlled by the rich after a salary that is just enough and will never make them rich.

Also, then please surrender your phone to your boss when you work too.

@@daphneg5712 Start cooking, doing laundry and clean after yourself or are you that useless that you need another adult to do it for you?

hahaha

Right, it is about work done not treating helpers as slave!

Cuz some helpers' tik tok vids are with children. Nasty people could track down the location and easily kidnap the child..

Don't forget this is a 24/7 job. Not all maids are professional enough to put their phones away and not be distracted by it. If they actually were mature they wouldn't be on Tik Tok in the first place.

@@slaiyfershin if the parents is mature enough then why dont take care of their own children. What!? Dont even know how to do chores?? Only know how to spread legs on the bed and make kids like a prostitute

Noda Megumi the parents might not have enough time to take care of their children or their parents therefore they hire these helpers.

Noda Megumi the parents may be working so yeah

Waydh

tf you're everywhere

May I ask if she's from India?

I see so many ugly kid faces on social media. Let's just say ban them all and spare people who do not want to see them in the first place!

I think this sentence is very dense. Would you be happy if your domestic helper makes fun of your kid or sick grandparent on tiktok? Come on. Be fair in your statement. Not everyone is privileged but some of us really have no choice. We have to work and we have someone sick or young at home.

8:20 typical kiasu singaporeans

Also, the underprivileged class and their entitlement issues (to phones).

@@GAEUL1985 " Would you be happy if your domestic helper" Just shut up already.

Amanda Patrick I hope one day things don’t happen to you and your family. :) And I certainly hope you’ll never ever need a domestic helper and even if you do, I pray so very hard for you to get a good one that doesn’t put you and your loved ones in jeopardy. :) I can shut up but being rude on social media doesn’t make you a better person in real life. I will now “shut up” and go do my own stuff. Have a nice life! 🖐

Good one! Let Diana Ser clean toilets, vomit and poo please!

How about those who works on office,they also used phones,they share data's also what's the difference? Oh I see because they are not MAID🤔

i mean yes it is good that they tackled all the negative effects of this privacy issue thing related to domestic helpers. but why only focus on them? because of the family they exposing? Then don't hire one if we really care for our privacy lah they also have their rights you know. they aren't an object or a robot that can be dictated tho.

@@rizzaherradura7045 I agree with u😁

Yes, also adamant on sentencing them to death

yes, its like these people think domestic helpers are their slaves. So much entitlement because they have $$$

Totally agree. I've lived in a few places in Asia and nothing was worse than Singapore in terms of human behaviour. They are insanely arrogant for no apparent reason and they do like their dictatorship, don't they ...

Eddie Tan - I saw your wife doing the same, why not ask her? Or you don’t even know what she’s doing while you’re gone. Track her down like what cna did.

I don't really like tiktok. I don't use it and I'm 25. Everyone at my age uses it. BUT dude, people are different. You look definitely older than me and you haven't learned it? Majority of them like using these apps. So that means you are the weird one lol. Includes me too but I don't have a problem with others using it. I don't really think they are all mental.

You’re concerned about what kind of phone usage? Dancing while on Tik Tok? Or watching porn? YOU don’t watch porn? Empowerment? Of what? To behave like a human? This is a problem in Singapore? Dang, you guys really must be so BORED, that you need to look into your help’s social medias.🤔

pocarisweet good

Then you better treat her right. Because you may need her testimony and approval on Judgement Day if God sees her more superior (in deeds) than you and will only let you "through" by your helper's approval. :)

Content about helpers are most save things to bring up. Helpers wont complaint one

@@rizzaherradura7045 What?

Exactly!

The difference is that the domestic helpers do not own the place that they are living in and majority of the employers do not consent to this/aware of their domestic helpers revealing personal information/information about where they live, putting themselves and their family at risk.

Plus, they are not really well educated in this area. They might not know that revealing bits of info here and there will cause so much harm and I think people who are on tiktok and they know the potential risk of it, will not stupidly reveal info about them (like where they live, personal info etc)

@@clxy3416 kids leh?

@@ducc5526 I've replied to someone else's comment regarding to kids already. So i'll just copy and paste here. Everyone can definitely use their phone. Domestic helpers are humans too, they need some entertainment as well. But there is a difference between educating your child and educating your domestic helper that you hired. Parents can easily educate and discipline their child if they have leaked any personal info or did something wrong. And they are kids, they are young and naive. On the other hand, it is not easy to educate or discipline a domestic helper. Number 1, they are adults they should have known better. Number 2, its a relationship between an employer and an employee. And usually what does an employer do when the employee does something wrong? Scold right? Like your boss scolding you for not submitting something in on time. But they are just maids and they live in our houses. We don't want to scold them. Cause the relationship will be ruined, they might get mad or beh song or they dont do their work. This happened to my aunt, she did not scold her domestic helper just kinda told her off (not in a angry way tho) then the maid went to abuse her 6yo son for a month and she decided to fire her

Darling Maybe probably you have never own a maid before so you have no idea

Where are you from, if i may ask you?

@@PeterBeckenbauer I'm from Indonesia

Agree

Get with the program, there's plenty of jobs that restrict phone usage during work hours.

you are correct. from the very start, you already know what she's up to. even when she was laughing, it was very fake.

Sadly they are

RonLarhz I thought that already plagiarism

It is already exposed online. I am sure TP had gotten consent prior to broadcasting this.

Exactly

I was just going to say how condescending she was at 16:06

I HATE when people do that!! It’s almost like they’re mocking them. I live in the US and I hear people doing it when speaking to Mexican-Americans. They’ll change their voice to speak in a horrible fake ass accent and sound childlike. I’m not even sure people are aware they’re doing it! And it is UNBELIEVABLY condescending!!!

Immortal! the fact that the domestic helper is one of the hidden engine of thier economy.

You think so simple? I think u drop this 🧠

Well I need maids cause I just have too much money to spend darling ahhahaha

I understand your point, but a lot of people are not condescending idiots - only masses which this video appeals to.

You are the kind of people who would have protested the abolishment of slavery if this was 300 years ago. They too believed that slaves should not be free and denying them the rights to be human was your right and those who disagreed don't understand your position.

Shame shame

people are just complaining, this is about safety and security of others.And also security of the workers as well.These people don't understand,once your business is out there it can be very damaging.These days you don't have to be FBI to track someone, just check their social media.

@@RajeshRavindranathan lol so true, the twist to the story is finding out the data breach comes from the videos posted by the kids or the new to Facebook elderly parents hahahaha, Data breach is not a domestic helper problem, it is everyone's problem, if it is your elderly parents posting these videos what would u do? Communicate and not take away their phones, we are all adults, we don't act like North Korea out of fear

@Rajesh Ravindranathan lol so true, the twist to the story is finding out the data breach comes from the videos posted by the kids or the new to Facebook elderly parents hahahaha, Data breach is not a domestic helper problem, it is everyone's problem, if it is your elderly parents posting these videos what would u do? Communicate and not take away their phones, we are all adults, we don't act like North Korea out of fear

Totally

Even without understanding that, let's say you work here in Singapore - does your boss regulate your phone. It is common sense for example not to use your phone during work or meetings, same for them, to use it with judgment. If you dont want the helper to take photos of the house, the kids, just say so, and trust the helper to comply. if you dont even trust the helper, then please fire her.

They prolly do the same...

It is true

Correct

wahahha

I dont get this

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Gary Hahaha then never do blue film with them ah

If every employer is like you we will be living in 2070

Haha. How do you know they watch porn?

@@Noeman2009 hahaha omg.....

U good employer

She needs to become a baby and learn all the things from beginning... I feel ashamed because humans like these exists.