Hi frank... Can you please make videos on the inferior functions of each type the way you did about INFJ's inferior Se in one of your past videos🙃Please. You are really providing us such insight !😇😇
I subbed to you a while back cause I see that you might be fairly insightful. However, it’s easy to notice a lot of hipsters out there recently that are successful due to their socialization skills, not due to any actual merits of study or work. Given there are so many fakes in the world, and all this while America is “on the brink”, it would be in your interest to stand out from others in your pursuits to help people, the country, and the world by asserting your back ground experience in regards to education and passion. In short, can you please post your background academics in your links so people can have a quantifiable means of gauging your videos and posts? People should trust your intellectual background AS WELL as your suave smile 🤗 Please and thank you. Signed, a male INFJ Heyoka.. #UberRare
@@JM-gh1oz ISTJ is a phlegmatic type not melancholic. (Stereotypically) they are all about organization and quiet. I think you're mistaking melancholic temperament with phlegmatic.
... we are.... we do? huh. well, i guess i have to say that while it's nice to have somebody say something nice about oneself, one also has to know the truth behind it. in simpler words, don't butter my biscuit and think i won't know it's shit... i am well aware of the smell, thanks.
INFPs, once you actually talk to one enough, are super easy to type. As an ENFJ I would like to ask, why do you guys just have to be so adorable? I don't even know what it is, every INFP I've met is just so wholesome and sweet. You people just have this super loving, accepting kind of vibe and I want to hug almost every INFP I see. With my INFP friends, I feel like I can just curl up in a content little ball and fall asleep, knowing that nothing will happen to me. INFPs are a very relaxing personality type to be around. You. People. Are. So. Cute. And. I. Don't. Know. Why. :D
As an INFP, I appreciate this so much :) My friends have definitely called me cute in this way haha! I wish I was more thick skinned sometimes, but kind words like this make me more proud to be INFP.
Thank you. It's funny because before someone gets to know us, we can seem like the most aloof or arrogant type in the room, but then the mask falls off and we're basically just like the human version of a cinnamon roll.
True,infp can get along anyone just like intp by making good strategy and psycho analyzing them And infp can read between lines, People can't really convince us I mean they cannot even manipulate us 😈
It’s easy to type anyone you actually “talk” to enough, but you have to know about typology first. However, as a T, I am not shy from debating you on what I am, though I will not try to convince you that I am an F, I just couldn’t be that chaotic if I tried. I don’t deny the probability that I am an ENTP, I just have to qualify that if I should be, I am very lawful for the type and I am not competitive in the way that a typical NT would be.
[face splits into a dark evil grin] oh dear, oh dear oh dearie me... fresh meat. you're very lucky i'm old and not as open to mischief as i once was. little lost lambs like yourself are always so tempting.
INTP here. And yes, I obsess over that very much and try to correct it. Then people get pissed at me for taking that seriously something they see as so inconsequential. :-)
EJs: Lead with Dominant Extroverted Judging (Fe or Te) -> “Leading” IPs: Lead with Dominant Introverted Judging (Fi or Ti) -> “Individualists” IJs: Lead with Dominant Introverted Perceiving (Ni or Si) -> “Observers” EPs: Lead with Dominant Extroverted Perceiving (Se or Ne) -> “Engaging”
@@Jazoniq Actually, he's right: The F and T (Fe, Fi, Te and Ti) are Judging Functions. While N and S (Ne, Ni, Se and Si) are Perceiving Funtions. So, even though i know it seems counterintuitive, IP's have Judging as Dominant and IJ'd have Perceiving as Dominant
The IxxP is so accurate. Growing up my family always tried to control my life and were pretty strict, they have their own ways and I have mine. I was very rebellious and did many things they didn’t like lol I love them but ya know doing whatever makes you happy is more important. I’ve always felt like a loner too but I don’t mind it, I actually kind of like it. -intp
@@altitudeiseverything3163 Not really, I usually have the same blank face when I'm mad. You wouldn't know until and stop thinking and say the first thing that comes to my mind
I don’t go in big groups to begin with. I just sit some place and listen to music while playing super overly complicated scenarios that will never, ever happen in my head. -intp
As an INTP, I can relate being an individualist. I like working alone as no one would tell me what to do. I’ve been always talking things like “what if this” and “what if that” and the habit remains unchanged till now. Usually, I just want to do things my own way, without caring if other people wouldn’t follow my lead.
I'm an ENFJ and you guys make our lives very difficult lmao. I try to delegate tasks and the INTP of the group is like "hm, what if I just do all of it?" *No. That's my line.* 😂
As an INFP I relate to this very much. I like to do things my own way. I'm not saying that my way is necessarily different that the "normal" way, but I still follow that inner voice rather than the crowd. For example I don't care that much about rules. I never follow rules because they are rules. I follow them because I think they are the right thing to do.
As an INFP I would care if they followed my lead not because I think I am wrong but my choices may not be good for them - I actively discourage any following unless its no brainer good choices
I wish I was consistent enough to use my bullet journal. Mine has as many doodles as useful pages. I totally love and respect you INFJ ppl. Signed an INFP
As an ISFJ who runs the house while homeschooling three kids, constantly trying to keep order and schedules while married to an ENFP husband... yeah... I can say this resonated with me.
@@lamendieta7209 We keep each other balanced. I keep him grounded and help him get the boring everyday stuff done and he helps me leave my comfort zone once in a while and not get stuck in a rut. It’s all about communication and setting boundaries. When we were first married, I had to teach him to call me before he brought friends over, but I also had to learn to let him have gatherings and that it was okay for me to spend that time in the bedroom if I didn’t feel up to socializing. Fortunately, we’ve brought each other more toward the middle ground; I’m more okay now with occasional parties, and he’s okay with staying in for quiet evenings more often.
@@sofiebonaparte7831 I would honestly. It sounds stereotypical af but as an INTJ I always truly admired how charming and caring people like you are despite the fact that half of the time you don't even know what planet you're living on.
I think I…J’s also sometimes get leadership roles like EJ’s. Not necessarily because we want to (especially those that are really introverted like me) but because no one else steps up, we want to get the goal done, and occasionally because we think we’d be better at it. That said if someone steps up volunteering to lead and we see them as competent or at least willing to listen to others we will happily let them lead… and be the puppet master from the shadows… muhaha… ermm I mean give wise advice to the leader and help write their speeches… yeah…
As an IJ I totally agree 😅 I often prefer to even lead at some point because I know then the things will be done well because it's gonna be according to my plan 😂
As an INFP i am so independent that if people try to help me I will get annoyed because I feel like I should be able to it by myself. And if I can't then I will get upset since that is something I should be able to do.
Reminds me of my childhood when I wouldn't do something just because someone told me to, even if I had been planning on doing it before. I'm an INFP, too
As an ISFP, I can relate. Whenever someone offers help instead of "let me help you", I hear "wow you're so pathetic and unable to do anything yourself, guess I have to go out of my way to lend you a hand, because watching you hurts". And even if I do struggle with something, I'd exhaust myself, but pull through on my own. Because I can.
@@rivmanz9053 comment deleted. Sorry if I offended you that's not what I was trying to do. Sorry that I hurt people with this comment. Whenever I try to help it just seems that I hurt people instead....... so I'm sorry about everything. Just please forget about it ok?😭😭 I'm really not lying about being depressed. I promise you that. But everyone has their own opinion, so I'll just leave it up to you to believe if what I'm saying is true or not. I was trying to say what I said without being too judgemental or rude about it but I guess what I did was some stupid mistake on my part. I should've known that I can't randomly say things like that without receiving a response like that. I hope you can forgive me. I'll just keep everything to myself. 😭 Like I said before, I'm really sorry please just forget about this.
@@elizabethharris1851 Ill apologize too, You seem like a nice person. I ended up using my argument on the wrong person, it was also hypocritical of me to hurt someone who is going through what I was trying to defend. Im genuinely sorry as well have a nice day if you can👍🏽
@@rivmanz9053 I'll forgive you and I hope you do your best to forgive me. I know you were just trying to defend what you hold dear to your heart and I respect you for that. I'm used to it. Whenever I try to defend myself, I somehow only succeed in hurting the very people I don't intend to hurt. Sorry.
IP's do things according to their own compass.. thats true. But what happens when they dont trust their own compass? When they live in self doubt? I think that IP's have a high degree of moral responsibility, i.e. they take responsibility for their actions even if it they were following someone else's instructions. It makes their load that much harder to bear.
I think you get a very high-strung or depressed IP at that point. INFP here, and I've done that a lot. I think i found the best way out is just to make effort to grow, learn to trust myself, and cut myself some slack when I mess up, because nobody is perfect and it's ok to make mistakes. I also have a bad habit of people-pleasing, which i think at the time will help something, but ultimately just keeps me from doing what I want/need to do. It's good to help others, but it's important not to let it get to an unhealthy level
ISTP here and I usually don’t waste my time feeling guilty, I’d rather focus on fixing my mistake if I did any, I guess it all depends on whether you are more focus on the past or future, I usually pay attention on what’s coming and what’s going on with my surroundings
Just thinking aloud: In my mind, all personalities ask the question of themselves and of the world, "What is your purpose?" Their answers: E-J: To show. (There's a different perspective you ought to see.) E-P: To know. (Let me see how far I can continue to challenge.) I-J: To find. (I want to find the connections and prove their importance, for better or for worse.) I-P: To be. (What I desire proves who I am. Not the other way around.) Even if your answer differs for or by the sake of emotion or efficiency, differ by receptiveness and consciousness, no matter your character, just know that you are human. Even worlds away, no matter how simple, there is always a point in someone which understands you. Don't forget.
@@artscience9981 In my honest opinion, personality types aren't a very good representation for personal character because people can think and feel one way one day and just change the other. I'm like that, sometimes I'm an extrovert, sometimes an ambivert sometimes an introvert, sometimes I care what people think sometimes I don't, it just depends on how I'm feeling and if I want to put in the social effort. I can't even describe myself within the bounds of these 4 types because I've always felt like I had a piece of each one. I think the best judge of character is the one you actively wish people thought that you were, not categorized. P.s I know you didn't ask, but when it comes to my description above for the types, it comes from an all-world, sort of observer of the world type view, not that I am or think that I'm good enough to be, but that just sometimes I feel like that, if that makes sense. Don't know what else to tell you :)
IJ - Good at organizing, keep things running, making things efficient, love to teach basic, and getting people to work together. I am INFJ and I can relate to all of these. Thanks for describing this in simple way so we can understand easily. And make us understand what are our strong points. 😄👍🏻
Yes, the stuff about xxxPs liking to explore and go down different paths is so true. For me, that's mainly with video games. I like finding secrets and exploring to my heart's content. Sure, it takes a while to explore every nook and cranny, but that satisfaction you get when you find those little secrets that the game developers hid for curious players is awesome.
Yessss, as an ISTJ I look at everything regarding how efficiently things can be completed. My motto is always: “work smarter, not harder” That will be engraved on my urn, not tombstone; tombstones cost too much and burial plots are bad for the environment...PSA from your fellow ISTJ 😂
As an INTJ, this is relatable. Even the tombstone/burial issue! Unfortunately, cremation also has environmental concerns, since it contributes to air pollution (particularly if the body has mercury amalgam dental fillings). Still seems better than standard burial.
@@ibr6193 SI is only a reference of the perceiving functions, while "if it works then don't fix it" is likely true for the ISTJ it doesn't mean they can't recognize the need for new or novel ideas and functions, although coming up with those novel things might be a challenge.
@@SentoB I think it just depend on the person, but they are not the people who are more open to a new approach even if it is more practical, useful or logical.
@@nunyabusiness6450 I thought they might give a sensible/right answer myself until I got to the second sentence -_- ... yh they're no exception to what they judged other people of being in their first sentence.
"You chose to follow me, how can you not understand what I've figured out? I did all the work for you and everything. UGH! Just go away already. No, I don't care if you can't find your way out again." --Me the INTP If I really care about something, I can make a compelling persuasive argument with the first step being to understand where others are coming from. But, good grief!, how can they not see it already? LOL
@@Denise-rg6py i ask my self every single time im around people, “am i annoying them? Should i just leave?” Or “do i seem like i have no empathy at all” lol.
One thing I've never seen addressed in personality type videos is how anxiety and shyness are often seen as being synonymous with introversion. It seems like anxiety is a diagnosable, treatable condition. A preference for being is not that. I've always found people draining but have never been shy or had any type of anxiety. I enjoy being alone. I'm pretty self-confident. Maybe it's age. I think a lot of people who fashion themselves introverts are really just anxious or shy or possibly both, and if those issues were dealt with they would find they are actually extroverts. That's just me going down the rabbit hole.
@Colleen Quigley I'm the same way. I prefer to be by myself as well and I also don't speak much but not because I have anxiety or I'm shy. I think people identify with either being introverted or extroverted because of socially constructed roles and categorization of personalities. Maybe the question should be more on self-confidence and self-esteem as opposed to being either intro- or extroverted. Many blessings and be well 😊🙏💖
He does have a video about different types of introverts that might be helpful. You sound like a "restrained" introvert, who just likes their alone time.
That right there is part of why I can’t figure out my type. I’m most likely extroverted but social settings can often be draining. I’m also confused about what functions I use first but that’s a separate topic.
Honestly, I kind of think what he talked is related like ExxJ as choleric, ExxP as sanguine, IxxJ as melancholic and IxxP as phlegmatic but just on a generalized level
@@ACrazyCrazyGirl I feel like it could go either way on what you listed for the IxxJs and the IxxPs, but maybe that's just because I, my dad, and my closest friend are all IxxJs and phlegmatic
Me (INTP) in a group project: Oh God no one else is organizing it or taking initiative, does that mean I have to? -> Tries to lead but it's very draining -> No one else actually contributes much -> Does everything myself -> Eventually expected to do everything myself evey time -> complains to friends Friends: Why don't you delegate tasks to your group members? Me: Uhhh that's even worse than doing everything myself so I'll just do everything myself ._.
INTP female here. I prefer to work alone but if it has to be a teamwork and no one takes initiative or I perceived as not really capable in leadership role, I take initiative immediately to lead & delegate work in a clear direction. So far they are quite responsible even tho the quality of each individual work doesn't always meet expectations, but it's okay bcs that's teamwork at least we got the job done and I hate it if people taking advantages of me by making me do all the jobs lol. What I do is try to understand each person ability in my team, delegate the work according to that, and make some to do list/brief procedures that have to be accomplished (but be sure not to be so rigid).
@@ginotsun That sounds like a much healthier use of shadow Te-Ni! As soon as I start questioning people's competence and effort, I'll want to take on their tasks because "I can do it better myself anyway and I want an A." Guess that's a bit arrogant. 🤣
@@sadlittletroll1738 ah I see. When I was younger, I used to act that way. And the way you act I think pretty much similar with some of my intj acquaintances. (Just to give u my personal perspective) when I work with that kind of person, I don't need to try hard & can be irresponsible in my work bcs in the end they'll correct it all over again as if I'm incompetent & contribute only small part so yeah I won't give my best & just screw that. 😁 As I get older, I understand that people actually try to give their best at their work if we can trust them & know how to push them. Not only we can make them to be responsible, we can also help them to learn in their own way & give them confidence in their ability. Because I know how awful it feels when people in my team underestimate my ability & think that my work is pontless, so I try my best not gonna do the same to others.
I'm an IP type, in group projects I often take the EJ role, even if it makes me feel uncomfortable at times, because I want to finish to finish the project. +I'm also often doing half of the work
INTJ's are not short tempered; people around them are just too loud and inefficient. Update: people claiming my comment to be "cringe", just proves my opinion as they're being unnecessarily loud and highly inefficient. I don't need your negativity.
EPs “Here’s what I found”- yesss and I feel like I can’t leave anything out because it’s all new & interesting and I want whomever I’m telling to be able to sift through it for themselves. Lol...which is both considerate and lazy.
I'm an ENFP and same, i think the main reason behind us being good leaders is that we are good communicators and always try to be friends with everyone else as a result we end up being the centre of the group even if we are not the leaders our actions have greater effect than anyone else. To put it simply, people listen to us and follow us simply because they like us unlike EJ group whom people listen to because they have the commanding aura whether they like them or not.
Hey, Frank! Why don't you make a video about the "energies" of the 4 groups (IxTx - blue, the Analysts / IxFx - green, the Amiables / ExFx - yellow, the Enthusiasts / ExTx - red, the Controllers)? I think it would be really cool!
Frank - forgets INTJ Me - gets offended Frank - remembers us and says we are gonna be mad Me - ok you got me but you fixed it 😂 Sincerely ~ a random INTJ female
People who are extremely concerned with being individualistic are anything but individualistic. The people who are most individualistic are the ones who pay no attention to what anyone else is doing and these people go their own way, a way that is typically not that same way as everyone else.
Definitely relate to the fairness thing for INFJ. In work groups and family dynamics, I'm always trying to make others communicate and/or work in a fair manner. Easier said than done with family, though.😜 Thanks, Frank! 👍
IPs don't like it when others try to narrow them down. It limits who they are. They are ever-expanding beings. Also, Frank has a tendency to project himself onto others. Some people find that comforting (shared experiences, shared values) but others, who are individualists, find it irritating. Their reaction is "I am different to what you think I am" or "I don't want to be the same as you".
@@heathergrahame9647 [tilts head] only if they actually care what others are thinking of them. or if they Allow others to have that kind of power. if they truly Are an individualist, what this person or that one says makes little to no difference to them. life gets much easier when you let go of giving a shit. trust me. i'm old and have learned that people really don't care who or what other people really are. they have their own mess to sort and have very little time to Actually Care what's going on with Yours.
@@kstormgeistgem461 I completely agree that life gets easier when you don't give a shit about the opinions of others. But Frank is an INFJ and their 'me-ness' or personality is very much linked to what others feel and think. INFJs just looove symbiotic, intertwined relationships. Independent types run from that, and then the INFJ is like, "How do I get this person to like me?" and they try to charm/manipulate them all the more into some sort of inter-dependent relationship (which the INFJ enjoys but independent types hate). But it would make for an interesting romance novel, I guess. Haa
Is this related to the four humours? If so I've been asking for like a year, for Frank to make this video. If not,still suggesting Frank should do a vid on the four humours/temperaments.
@@mariannek6735 it was a Greek philosophical idea that there 4 ways people act and proceed in an overall way. Sanguine, choleric, phlegmatic, and melancholic
I was hoping he'd be talking about those as well. I'm also curious if there is any correlation between them. It's honestly something I've considered studying myself.
@@atomiccritter6492 it was an ancient scientific belief that there were four liquids in the body, phlegm, blood (sanguine), yellow bile(choler), and black bile (melancholy). Whatever liquid you had the most of would affect your personality. The four humours from these liquids are Phlegmatic, Sanguine, Choleric, and Melancholy. These four base types have super interesting descriptions, and there can be mixed types too!
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INTJs and ISTJs are not aggressive of short tempered. This misconception bothers me. These types are arguably the most calm types next to INTPs. Stop making INTJs specifically seem arrogant and do your research. Stop giving INTJs a bad rep.
I know an intj (they are literally my most favourite person in the world) and they tend to seem mean/hotheaded to somebody who doesn't know them but in reality they're actually very calm and sensible in a lot of situations where one might freak out, so yeah I agree
Me the moment I wake up: okay I'll have this many minutes to shower, then I have eat breakfast for this long, then I have this much time to get ready to go etcetcetc
ENTJ here- half of what you said about IJ is also true for ENTJ. Creating systems, seeing both sides, being about to clearly communicate and teach. We are the most introverted of the extroverts, so it makes sense.
As one of the most interesting types 😅 I can wholeheartedly stand behind your description of the INFP. We HAVE to go find our own path in life and in our own way, style and time! ❤️INFP+
i am a INTP and when I do math problems other people say I do them so convoluted it hurts their head but it just make sense to me like , 8+5=13 but in my head it looks like this (5-2)+8+2=13
I don't enjoy convoluted math especially when alphanumerals are involved unless it's something cryptic that results in a word or geometry and not a number. Numbers for number's sake are a problem for me.
E__P: Yes, here is everything I thought of, including the kitchen sink. Yes I removed it. Look, we're getting a much better sink, and I would be happy to tell you everything that was wrong with it, but I still haven't gotten around to replacing it. We just won't have a sink for a while, just to see how that works. Hey, how about you pick the sink and we'll make a game out of it?
@@alsatusmd1A13 I'm nt but yeah. You and I and every TP is an FJ further down on our functions, we just put our opinion of what is logical before that bs.
As an ISTJ I'm wondering how the hell I would function without a kitchen sink. My productivity will surely decrease just from the stress of this unexpected situation
As an ENTP I agree we do have to know everything about everything but it's for my own personal gratification. I mean I have atleast a 1000 money making ideas in my head right now, but I just need help or better yet someone to do all the work, or most. I'm so glad I am who I am because other personality types seem to be sooo uptight sometimes. Like relax and good things will just come to you.(how my life works) And there's nothing wrong with some fun chaos from time to time. Face it, you all would be completely bored without us EP's. Muuhhhhaaaa muhhhaaaa (evil laugh). Thank God for my sweet precious INFJ boyfriend for my balance and adulting nature. He's my muse... (ok ok he's making me a softy) ughhh (conflicting).
As an ENFP other people find my ideas confusing because to them they make no sense as they are not “logical”, like in maths there’s a right way and a wrong way. And I do neither I do whichever way is logical to my brain which isn’t even a method that the teacher has taught us ect but from the information it makes the most sense to me (I’m not a fan of maths tho because there’s not much exploring into new ideas you can do) annoys the hell out of my maths teacher cause she’s very methodical. I like to experiment till I get an answer that looks right 😂 in English there’s always new ideas, new interpretations to explore, history there is always something to learn about the past. But maths there’s one method that is correct, and i find it rigid.
As a soon to be uni graduate from a major that was 90% math (Economics)... you have no idea how much my ENFP brain missed studying english in highschool 😂😂😂 It's torturous to not have new ideas to play with but rather just fixed systems to apply to a problem.
Actually in Maths I always find my way to solve things lol. The teachers usually don't understand how I come there due to poor Si I can't explain my connections I guess. I make my teachers sick sometimes being so persistent.
My temperament as enfj is pretty low. There are only a few ways how you can make me triggered: showing up late, cancel plans last minute or backstab me. Usually i am pretty cool and reserved
@@nunyabusiness6450 nah, the first thing is a personal project, the 2nd is literally me training to be a high school teacher, and the 3rd is volunteer work for a youth politics movement.
Question for you Frank...at some point in the future would you like any feedback in the form of concrete examples from us regarding this series? I've had some interesting "AHA" moments in recent conversations, would that be helpful in any way?
Watching this has been really interesting. Since I figured out that I'm an INFP, I've really enjoyed figuring out what other people's types are. Normally I can have trouble connecting with people, but when I do meet that rare person, it can feel really intense and I'm drawn to them like we've known each other our whole lives. I now think that indescribable feeling is related to NF. From watching this video in particular, I realized that my best friend in college was an ENFJ. We had very similar tastes and loved having long conversations about our observations and theories, but she also had this great maternal/take-the-lead/decisive quality which was great since I'm a shy. I also fell really hard for a guy in high school that was definitely an F type. I'm less sure what his whole type was, but probably also contained NF. Having an abrasive INTJ father, it was so intoxicating to meet a guy like that. Unfortunately, I've only ever felt that spark with those two. I really enjoyed the great memories that this video brought up.
As an ENTP here, This is 100% true to my natural tendencies, but what’s really helped me develop my communication organization is actually getting into and finding enjoyment from writing and creating. That plus being an editor really helps enable development of a focus on organization and trying to enhance that element of communication, too.
44 comments and no ones literally talking a bit about ISTJ-t.forget talking no ones even mentioned this type like how is this one of the most common types?😑😑😑 Well anyways where is the ISTJ squad at!!!
I'm an ISTJ. I'm wondering how I didn't meet any other person with my type in real life. I'm often misunderstood by my xNFx friends. Yes, I am. I seriously don't know what kind of world I live in, but it's kinda weird so I'm glad I found other ISTJs online 😂
In short, IxxP’s place high value on the ‘ intention behind ‘ everything they do, and what others do. Also value one’s own unique identity and authenticity that’s why we’re kind of creative in a way that is uniquely different from everyone else. The way we see how we’re self-focused, we understand that other people have their own identity inside as well..
Nice Video as always ;) But wording these groups as "temperaments" is rather unlucky. The 4 temperaments are usually melancholic, choleric, sanguinic and phlegmatic (if i translated correctly from German.. too lazy to check now)
Omg I so agree. I had this discussion with my friends and uhm as the comments below said I am also quite open about my life and the situations I am in but I have experienced people being assholes thinking I'll accept everything so I make my boundaries quite clear with people or friend groups. You know what I realized is that the care you give to others is not to be expected from friends or others. I'm in a not that happy situation and it is quite lonely to see some not being there for me...I don't think people expect ENFJs to be not energetic or happy
I might take a stab here. INTJ with an ENFJ fiance. She has remarked on this exact phenomenon with me. From my perspective what I see with her is a tendency to not want to put her burdens on other people. Paradoxically, she will happily take on others burdens because it's helpful and social oriented from her view. Seems like she looks at it as her working to increase the net positive in the social (external) world. That is a perplexing perspective to someone like me because it does create the illusion of seeing the positive in everything which for T types just sounds like textbook logical fallacy (like confirmation bias). So we short hand tend to presume either manipulative tactic or your life must just be sunshine and rainbows. Obviously my relationship with her has transformed that perspective
@@TL-ch1xd Oh nothing specific! What I meant was that we seem to be perceived as being overly emotional and overly sentimental, and extremely soft-hearted to the point of absurdity.
I would submit, as an IP, that what is missing is what IP’s are about, not just the way they do things. IP’s are about systems (not necessarily external and utilitarian) and principles - ITP’s, logical systems, and IFP’s, ethical systems.
