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What are the differences between a speaker and a subwoofer? 

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So let's turn now to the differences between a conventional speaker and a subwoofer. And the context of that differentiation is important. There are people who, and many of them are pretty knowledgeable, but they're not necessarily thinking about the effects of the room and the placement of a speaker within a room and how damaging that can be to the potential excellent sound of a speaker. So we'll get into that a little bit.
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So what occurs with a speaker is you have a variety of drivers typically, and they're running what I would describe as limited bandwidth, meaning that even a pretty good sized, very expensive speaker, because of the way that you need to place it to optimize all the different functions within a room, you're getting only a certain amount of bass extension in particular. You can with placement options and things, you can get a really well-placed image.
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You can get, you know, highs to mids, mids, to lows, pretty well balanced and really focus up a big stage. And here's the problem, when you start talking about wavelengths that are multiple meters long, tens of feet long all of that goes out the window. What I mean by that is that the room itself is the single biggest enemy the people who build speakers and design speakers face. At some point you need more horsepower and you need things that are really developed, very precise things specifically to deal with bass frequencies.
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And I'll say roughly 40 Hertz and down maybe 50 Hertz and down. An old friend of mine taught me something many, many years ago, and he said, John, I don't care how big the speaker is, I don't care how expensive it is. Every speaker above 50 Hertz is a small speaker. And what he meant by that was, and you look at these magnificent speakers, they can be 100, 200, $300,000.
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But if you actually study what they're doing, ultimately, all the magic that occurs in those things is typically a six and a half inch two-way maybe a five and a quarter inch two-way that's capable of reproducing the spoken and sung language, the high frequencies, the air in a concert hall. That's all, the rest of the two meter tall behemoth, that weighs 600 pounds, you know, 250 kilos is just trying to deal with bass. And how they do that is entirely up to the person installing it in your home. And if they're an incredible artist, you may get good results.
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The problem is is that the room itself can be so destructive to bass frequencies and unevenly you wind up with these huge peaks and valleys and you're going, oh my gosh, I just spent massive sums of money potentially on a very, very uneven sound. Subwoofers are designed with only one mission right. The other guys are trying to reproduce 20 to 20 kilohertz, which is a bit of a fool's errand when it comes to frequencies below 50 Hertz, nothing against them. They're brilliant.
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But what, what you find with a great subwoofer is it's designed with massive amounts of horsepower. Typically far more than you would normally throw at the main speaker. Why? Because it takes a huge amount of current to both start and stop a really fast bass driver. Our smallest unit in the home theater specific range, for example, is 300 Watts and then they get powerful and they do that because they're asked to do so much. In theater, those .1 special effects are massive.
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You can't cheat. You have to have huge amounts of power and you have to have drivers that can literally handle that power. And it's expressed fundamentally as stroke. So you have stroke being the ability for the driver to move in and out. So if you're talking about a driver that has to move two inches in and out, that takes huge amounts of power handling and it takes huge amounts of power. That cannot be replicated casually in an all-in-one box. Just doesn't work out very well.
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Even at the ultimate levels where you start comparing what a great 100, 200, $300,000 speaker does. And you compare that to what we can execute with say a six pack of No. 25's . It's an entirely different level. We're able to actually get in, sublimate underneath it, and produce this really deep structural, foundational bass effortlessly. Get it tuned to exactly where it will blend perfectly with the main speaker such that you don't hear a REL Stack and a speaker.
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You just hear a huge, huge, beautiful soundstage until you shut the RELs off. And then you go, oh okay there was a huge difference there. My God, put it back in. So those are some of the real differences. It comes down to power. It comes down to very specific filters. We won't get into too much detail about that, but the way that we cross ours out is a bit of an art form and it comes down to driver development.

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@jamesj9728
@jamesj9728 2 года назад
This video really hit home. I am deciding on new speakers and I'm wondering if I can "get away" with a model down because I own a pair of new 212sx. The model up is a larger cabinet with a pair of bass drivers vs a single driver of the same size. The mid and tweeter are listed as being the same. Perhaps these characteristics alone are what gave me the perception of more air and "wow" factor making me cringe at having to spend ~12k more. Perhaps I will attain the same result one paired with my 212s?
@TM-fx2pi
@TM-fx2pi 3 года назад
I have a pair of Cornwall iv’s. I love them !! 15” bass drivers….. but they don’t sound complete without their complimentary REL S/812’s. A great combination for my taste.
@Novilicious
@Novilicious 3 года назад
tx series is best bang for buck. Can't wait to step up to 510 or 812 series
@UDASAN1
@UDASAN1 2 года назад
I have a New Rel T5i Sub and it gets very hot at the back is that normal as its my first one ?
@RELAcoustics
@RELAcoustics 2 года назад
The T/5i uses a Class A/B amplifier, which can get warm when ran hard or used for an extended period of time. The heat sink (aluminum fins) on the T/5i's amplifier panel are designed to dissipate this heat. However, if the heat sink is getting hot to the point where you cannot touch it during operation, then please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to provide additional assistance.
@JDG1971
@JDG1971 3 года назад
I have 2 subwoofers from Rel and they are great for my home cinema sound.👌✌👍😉
@RiddledEnigma93
@RiddledEnigma93 2 месяца назад
I had a pair of Cerwin-Vega RE30 speakers that would ShAkE the house an the neighbors as well, and they had a tweeter, mid range an woofer, but the way you tune something also helps as well in sound!~
@MrCitizenKaned
@MrCitizenKaned 2 года назад
One of my greatest ambitions in life is to own a set of Wilson audio speakers along with a stack of Rel subs.
@steveodian6008
@steveodian6008 3 года назад
Loving my S812. Can’t wait to order a second one. 😄
@rayking507
@rayking507 3 года назад
Hi there, could you tell us how low in frequency your 812 goes down to please. And also could you talk a little bit about how they sound, like a mini review 😁and perhaps compare it to other subwoofers if you heard any other. Thank u in advance, oh by the way I have Rel 1205 and I love it for movies.
@awsomenesscaleb
@awsomenesscaleb 3 года назад
What is the music you use in these videos?
@RELAcoustics
@RELAcoustics 3 года назад
We use a few different websites to purchase the rights to songs that we use in our videos, but most are from premium beats www.premiumbeat.com/
@TheJoeyPeacock
@TheJoeyPeacock 3 года назад
You folks going to be at CEDIA??
@RELAcoustics
@RELAcoustics 2 года назад
REL Acoustics won't be attending CEDIA, but there are REL dealers that usually do and demo our products.
@exoticgaming916
@exoticgaming916 2 месяца назад
Hi
@AJlekcey_Dj
@AJlekcey_Dj 3 года назад
Я первый 😊
@lowlightevangelist9431
@lowlightevangelist9431 9 месяцев назад
Speakers are science, not magic.
@lowlightevangelist9431
@lowlightevangelist9431 8 месяцев назад
@@mrstephenpariah magic is of the devil.
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