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Today we are talking about the Fell Beasts. The great winged beasts that are flown by the Nazgul. What are they? Where did they come from? Lets find out.
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@adampilarski7083
@adampilarski7083 2 года назад
One of the things that I love about Tolkien’s universe is that there is so much that is unmentioned and unexplained and unexplored. My guess is that these are ancient long forgotten or very foreign beasts - much like you said, dinosaurs that didn’t go extinct, but were in an otherwise unreachable lend except for the reach of Sauron. Perhaps they were a flying creature that had adapted to living in Mordor over millennia?
@banthaexplosion
@banthaexplosion 2 года назад
"Unmentioned, unexplained and unexplored." I absolutely love that description. 👍 Well done. For much as Tolkien dove headfirst detail-wise into his works he still knew enough to leave something to imagination. Re: Bombadil A true writer/creator.
@TheMarineIguanaStudios
@TheMarineIguanaStudios 2 года назад
2:23 I think this was confirmed in The Two Towers by Uglúk: "What's happened to your precious Nazgûl? Has he had another mount shot under him?"
@vinnye930
@vinnye930 2 года назад
It is absolutely confirmed. Im pretty sure even later Gandalf tells Legolas that he shot down the nazgul on the anduin
@camionbrowne8914
@camionbrowne8914 2 года назад
Perfect timing with the upload I was just thinking about this topic yesterday. Personally I believe that there's some sort of corrupted bird that either Morgoth or Sauron bread. Tolkien basically describes them as being like giant naked birds with bat wings. He even described the one that the Witch King was riding in the battle of the pelinor fields having a beak.
@Zickoly
@Zickoly 2 года назад
The theory that the Fell Beasts are creatures made in mockery of the great eagles seems like a reasonable one. I suppose one counterargument would be that it is not mentioned that Morgoth has flying forces until he unleashes the winged dragons. Perhaps they Fell Beasts were a failure by Morgoth to create flying infantry, that Suron would later go on to breed in Mordor with greater success?
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 2 года назад
Asked about the nature of the "steed of the Witch-king", Tolkien replied that the fell beast was not intended to be pterodactylic, but hesitantly acknowledged that it resembles a pterosaur and may have been a survivor of older geological eras.
@Manco65
@Manco65 2 года назад
Yes I recall that plus it was alluded to in the books. And it's mentioned that either the witch king or Sauron himself found them and raised them. What I imagine is a pterosaur of some sort with some level of dark magic added to it making it larger and stronger.
@taudvore259
@taudvore259 2 года назад
It would fit with Tolkien’s narrative of things decaying over time of they were a type of dragon. Like most things in Arda the dragons were great and mighty when they began but over time they grew smaller and weaker. Smaug was the greatest dragon of his age yet was basically an overgrown newt compared to Glaurung, who was a prototype. For dragons to decay to the point of being beasts of burden makes sense to me.
@johanabigasova6770
@johanabigasova6770 2 года назад
There is always something to explore and learn of Middle-Earth. Ringwraiths and their winged beasts, etc. I thought about this question: is this animal dragon or something of Dragon shape?
@alessandromangiapia7082
@alessandromangiapia7082 2 года назад
I have always thought, as a non-English speaker, “fell” meant that they were some kind of undead birds, specifically undead eagles (in mockery of Manwe’s eagles). This would be in agreement with the clarification made by the author they were featherless and the stench. But I have never found anyone or anything that would confirm this
@kanethompson708
@kanethompson708 2 года назад
Same
@Cat_Woods
@Cat_Woods 2 года назад
I always thought Legolas killed a fell beast. That seemed a clear implication in the books.
@palantir135
@palantir135 2 года назад
A pterodactyl is a reptile but it isn’t a dinosaur. I think they are made by Melkor. I would fly on an eagle to battle since the eagles were stronger than these beasts.
@vastolorde6194
@vastolorde6194 2 года назад
Legolas killed one fell beast at Anduin river in that night, as Gandalf white confirmed after they met in Fangorn. When Pippin was looking in palantir, he saw 9 beast like big bats, and after a few time, a fell beast with an nazgul was flying to Isengard, Gandalf confirmed that it was to early to another fell beast to come after Pippin after he watched im palantir, so it was another fell beast. So, in my opinion there were at least 11 fell beasts. Fell beast were probably one of yavanna's creation corupted by Melkor, that monster with "horn and ivory", that maybe where mixed with some maia in monster shape, and fell beast diluated after generations and became brainless and "faded", like was happens with anothers descendents of divin blood, like numenorean, spiders, werewolwes, dragons and maybe bats and some orcs.
@bobschenkel7921
@bobschenkel7921 2 года назад
Don't want to be a wise ass, but it seems to me that the Fell Beasts came from Mommy and Daddy Fell Beasts, somewhere in the hills of Udun. Sauron doesn't like to work hard, so he found some local fauna and bent it to his will. The way the Fell Beasts were shown in the movie were pretty darn close to what I had pictured in my mind when reading LOTR, so good on Richard Taylor and his friends at WETA Workshop for their screen creations. They work very well.
@bear90ify
@bear90ify 6 месяцев назад
They actually also made appearance in episode 1 of Amazon’s the lord of the rings rings of power TV show. In the final battle with Morgoth’s armies.
@zacheryburgett1602
@zacheryburgett1602 11 месяцев назад
Always loved the design of these things when watching the films as a kid. I get that it’s probably a bit demanding on gaming hardware / physics engine (see: Lair for PS3) but it’s been a dream to have a LOTR video game in which you can control a Nazgûl rider during the siege of Gondor. On a related note, there aren’t enough modern campaign driven video games for narrative IP that lets you control the baddies and change the course of the original lore. Shame really.
@shovelchop81bikeralex52
@shovelchop81bikeralex52 2 года назад
The way their heads look in the films they could almost be a flying evolution of trolls? They have the same leathery skin too.
@alexv8150
@alexv8150 2 года назад
Amazing artwork, particularly the eagle @4:56
@jeffagain7516
@jeffagain7516 2 года назад
I think it's quite telling that once more, JRR elected not to get trapped into a comparative analysis with Middle Earth and "The real world" therefore although he admitted that the semblance of these great winged beasts were similar to Pterodactyls (or Pteranadons), similarity was all he would admit to. His incredible world did not include "dinosaurs" as we know them but he understood that for visual representation in our minds, if that image helped, so be it. I'd suggest that they were again, a creation of Morgoth (same with the subterranean "Nameless Things") these however, based on a twisted and perverse representation of the Great Eagles which, other than Dragons, were the only aerial combat units in the entire Legendarium (I'm not including Bats or Crebain, as they required swarms for any success). Now, Morgoth, to our knowledge never used such entities in battle, so they were no doubt an inspiration that came to him beyond the Silmarillion so instead of back-peddling, he simply introduced them under Sauron, whom for all we know, found eggs/younglings/ a damn recipe, I dunno. As for Legolas shooting one down, though I don't put it past the abilities of this Elf (that rolls a Nat 20 on every dice toss it seems) I think it unlikely. Perhaps it (and Rider) just dove for deeper cover as they journeyed on. Oh, as for the "danger" they presented, physical attacks were never really the Nazgul's (or their mounts) forte. They were all about instilling terror (as you mentioned). Were I to be confronted by a huge winged beast with an ominous Rider, I'd need a change of underwear, pronto. Faramir's company may also have a different perspective, than simple dismissal. :)
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 года назад
I vote flying both Great Eagles and Fell Beasts in Lord of the Rings over any flying creature from Game of Thrones, or Shame of Thrones as I dub it
@eliastorres8085
@eliastorres8085 2 года назад
I seem to remember that a earlier edition of LoTR, ( late 70's or 60's) in the appendices if I recall correctly the Fell Beasts are from the north mountain ranges that border Mordor.
@Huskytabby
@Huskytabby 2 года назад
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 2 года назад
When I first read the books, the description really was kind of vague so I didn't really know what to imagine. I basically just thought of a small dragon which was corrupted by Sauron.
@maksphoto78
@maksphoto78 2 года назад
Pterodactyls weren't dinosaurs. They were flying reptiles, while dinosaurs were land creatures.
@DraconimLt
@DraconimLt 2 года назад
I was gonna comment this about the Pterosaurs. But at the same time Dinosaurs were evolving into a separate group of fliers, the birds, so they weren't entirely land creatures.
@hanshenrikbuttner9340
@hanshenrikbuttner9340 2 года назад
Ive always seen them as Vyverns.
@douglaslindeman797
@douglaslindeman797 2 года назад
Some of you know that I am a Tolkienesque novelist, so here is my theory on the creation of these Fell Beasts. Sauron living in the shadow of Morgoth just as I exist in the shadow of J R R Tolkien. These beasts IMHO were Sauron's attempt to build a new army of dragons. There could have been a cache of "dragon" eggs hidden away, for a time after the War of Wrath. However Sauron's power to corrupt was much weaker than Morgoth's. Sure he could corrupt the hearts of power hungry men, but anything else was beyond him. So as the beasts grew, they did not develop to the size nor power that Sauron had desired. They even lacked the protective covering of scales. This theory could also explain the differences between the worgs and Carcharoth. As always this is simply take on it.
@aronbakker4014
@aronbakker4014 2 года назад
In lord of the rings war in the north Aganduar is seen fleeing on a Fell beast as the party and the sons of Elrond confront him. In the dialoge that follows afterwards Beleram suggests that these creatures might have been created/bred in mockery to the eagles. Or as a way to rival them. Of course this is not Tolkien's work but does fit the lore well as the evil of Morgoth and Sauron could not create but only make foul and twisted copies.
@toddmiller2226
@toddmiller2226 2 года назад
I'd like to fly into battle on a dragon like John Snow. However, concerning the FELL BEASTS what if they are like the "Watcher" in the like in front of Moira and the other kinds Gandalf saw in the lakes and caves below the mountain when he was fighting the Balrog? What if these dwellers in darkness once lived on the surface until the environment changed and they migrated below? The FELL BEASTS could be ones that never went below because they were designed for flight not digging of swimming.
@jessehilyard3664
@jessehilyard3664 Год назад
I always imagined them quite like a wyvern, lesser dragon species that doesn't breathe fire
@Edward-nf4nc
@Edward-nf4nc Год назад
I have two theories. Mockery of the eagles would make most sense, but I think they could either be Nameless Beasts, like the Watcher in the Water likely was, or the first attempt at dragons or the winged dragons. If Morgoth considered them a falour he would cast them out, which was why they were 'the remainents of a dying race'. As it is so easy to kill them they likely were seen as a falour by Morgoth, but did a good enough job for Sauron.
@raveboxmedia353
@raveboxmedia353 2 года назад
Hey loved the video, just 1 thing. I may be mistaken, but are fell beasts not mentioned in one of Morgoths battles? About his servants arriving? Riding fell beasts or something to that account. Again could be wrong just wanted to check.
@Chris-bv4ko
@Chris-bv4ko 3 месяца назад
In the Return to Moria video game, the fell beasts are bred from a dragon that got corrupted after devouring one of the dwarf rings of power. Rather interesting take.
@elijahoconnell
@elijahoconnell 2 года назад
i picture them as being a cross between at least a voulture and a bat (and like the bones and joints of each wing collapse together to make one arm at need just in my head) and then like maybe probably a pterodactyl too
@fred20097
@fred20097 2 месяца назад
I never saw anything in lotrs to say that they were corrupted by melkor, but it's most likely. I do remember reading that they were some nearly extinct beasts from distant, desolate mountains i think. Havent read lotrs for a while after reading it too many times. I'd prefer riding a fell beast, but one that was nice and kind and gave children rides on its back, rather than taking it into a battle where it might get hurt.
@devanh7934
@devanh7934 2 года назад
I always thought of them as a creation of sauron based on the dragons but I never gave it much more thought than that
@generalsharkey
@generalsharkey 2 года назад
To me they are corrupted dragons, as a fully aware and sentient dragon wouldn't bear a Nazgul.
@nickd3157
@nickd3157 2 года назад
The nazgul were corrupted dragons, well the end result of them, i think there is a video on this channel, check out his dragon video, im fairly certain he covered that, and now I forgot why i was originally commenting, crap, lol i just moved to California bro, the weed out here is exquisite.
@mrmittenns5728
@mrmittenns5728 2 года назад
@@nickd3157 the nazgul are the ringwraiths, the ulari, the ghosts in the black robes. Their winged steeds are just called fell beasts in common lore
@istari0
@istari0 2 года назад
They always reminded me of wyverns.
@payday7679
@payday7679 2 года назад
I really like the motive rendition of them but I always imagined them having hair because of their description of smelling bad I just don’t see how a Lizard could smell like Much of anything
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 2 года назад
Oooh do trust most manner of reptile can be quite smelly. I have distinct memories of a bitter scent around monitor and snake enclosures. That being said, a hairy lizard does sound interesting.
@Greengreenorange
@Greengreenorange 2 года назад
I like the idea of them being made by Sauron who could not command dragons as melkor could so tortured baby dragons to be mindless and put them in small cages stunting their growth either that or tortured eagles
@From-North-Jersey
@From-North-Jersey 2 года назад
The one legolas killed did not know it was in a fight until the second the arrow pierced thru its heart and it started bleeding out while attempting to maintain altitlude.
@valiantredneck
@valiantredneck 2 года назад
So. Essentially Sauron had an Air Force.
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 2 года назад
No matter whether a fell beast or an eagle they are not too badass considering that a well placed arrow can take either one out. (See The Hobbit where Gandalf heals the Chief of the Eagles from an arrow.)
@gravewalkers
@gravewalkers 2 года назад
In his universe SMAUG was killed by one arrow. That does not make Smaug weak either.
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 2 года назад
@@gravewalkers I'd consider being a giant eagle and being taken out by an arrow from a "great bow of yew" not very badass. Especially if it needs a wizard to help fix it.
@austincorreia53
@austincorreia53 2 года назад
I'd definitely prefer flying with an eagle! They seem way more powerful and definitely smarter!🤘🦅
@pexrinne5144
@pexrinne5144 2 года назад
"we dont want to start making things up". Thank you for not going the Amazon way.
@hannah.lindseyy
@hannah.lindseyy 2 года назад
I read the book first and I pictured them like a giant, bald bat with a dragon like face.
@danielcarson4943
@danielcarson4943 2 года назад
It wouldn’t surprise me if they were the earliest incarnations of the Winged Dragons, given Melkor never created anything and only twisted existing creatures he could have twisted birds or the eagles to create them.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 года назад
Pterodactyls give off a foul stench? Hmmm, not in my experience. Plucked budgies, however...
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 2 года назад
They’re basically larger and rideable Canadian geese.
@DJonScott
@DJonScott Год назад
Pterodactyls weren't dinosaurs. They were pterosaurs. Pterosaurs were close relatives of dinosaurs (closer than crocodiles), but not actual dinosaurs. One easy way to tell the difference is that dinosaurs, both modern (birds) and extinct, walk(ed) with their legs directly under their bodies. Pterosaurs had their limbs sprawled out to the sides, like crocodiles.
@davect01
@davect01 2 года назад
From the films at least I just always assumed they were some sort of dragon variant.
@crabbuckets7506
@crabbuckets7506 2 года назад
I heard it was powdered toast man who created them.
@johnord684
@johnord684 2 года назад
Always wondered.A a kid reading the books i thought they were Pterosauria
@Roadrun98
@Roadrun98 2 года назад
Theres a chance they were one of the many monstrous beasts that came from the Pits of Moria when the dwarves found the Balrog
@stevensmith3206
@stevensmith3206 2 года назад
Idk I don’t think something that was from deep underground would need wings and the ability to fly, would it?
@Roadrun98
@Roadrun98 2 года назад
@@stevensmith3206 even under the misty mountains there were giant caves, bats exist and there's a good chance they're the nameless equivalent to bats down there
@liam7930
@liam7930 2 года назад
@@stevensmith3206 100% NOT one of the nameless things. Morgoth or Sauron created the fell beasts. The nameless things in Moria are older than both Morgoth and Sauron
@kevinkorenke3569
@kevinkorenke3569 2 года назад
I know my opinion is in the minority these days, but I am perfectly happy not knowing. One of the great things about the world of Middle Earth is that there are so many things that have never been explained and never will be.
@buddystewart2020
@buddystewart2020 2 года назад
I have seen someone assign a name to them in youtube comments, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was. I didn't recognize it, and wondered where they got it from. I didn't ask. After watching this it seems like they must have just made it up.
@spencercriddle7233
@spencercriddle7233 2 года назад
Yes! Got a sub 350 view on the video!
@srinjoyroychoudhury7034
@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 2 года назад
I'd go for the Eagle Anyday.
@jonathanchristensen3658
@jonathanchristensen3658 2 года назад
It’s called a Dwimerlake
@partofthetribe3277
@partofthetribe3277 2 года назад
You also have to take into account that it was legolas that fired the arrow he probably put it right through his fuckin brain on the first shot.
@ChiefSmackahoLLC
@ChiefSmackahoLLC 2 года назад
Man it's gotta be rough when there's not many topics that haven't been done to death. At least this upcoming Amazon middle-earth shitshow will leave a lot to talk about!
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 года назад
I would come across everything in Lord of the Rings, especially a Fell Beast, in battle, anytime and anywhere, as long as it's over coming across anything in Game of Thrones, or shall I say, "Shame of Thrones"
@tommybird4593
@tommybird4593 2 года назад
So.... What if, hear me out, the fell beasts are actually wraiths themselves as like the 9 are wraiths of men consumed by the power of the one and the nine; possibly these are wraiths of dragons who actually literally once consumed ring's of power. 👀. I know it's out there but hey
@ellerj641
@ellerj641 2 года назад
That's a cool theory, but wraiths are part of the unseen world. So, they would not be able to be killed by mortal weapons. The Nazguls are wraiths, and the Witch King was only able to be killed when a special made weapon to kill wraiths was used on him which broke the spell protecting him. I do like the idea though of the Fell Beasts being wraiths and having wraiths ride them. They would be nearly impossible to stop.
@tommybird4593
@tommybird4593 2 года назад
@@ellerj641 yeah that's true. Guess I've always been indifferent at the dragons stories in middle earth not making it at all besides smaug into the 3rd age.... They were so powerful destructive and evil in the 1st age serving morgoth but no tales of how they died out or what happened to their lines. I know the stories of the named ones of course in lore but there were said to be a great number at one time populating other areas besides the gray mountains. Idk. Just thought it'd be neat. Nazgul riding dragon wraiths would be a force for certain.
@darksoulsss2618
@darksoulsss2618 Год назад
I one thing I disagree with the video is them not being dangerous. Yes there definitely not dragons or balrogs and they could be killed by conventional weapons by humans. But they where definitely not harmless.there where a few instances in the return of the king where they were killing many people.
@smallnumbers36
@smallnumbers36 2 года назад
I’m riding the fell beast.
@leeboy26
@leeboy26 2 года назад
More like Smellbeast, amirite?
@fred20097
@fred20097 2 месяца назад
Lol i used to think that it was the fell beasts which were called the nazgul 😂
@baconandeggs8068
@baconandeggs8068 2 года назад
Both. Fell Eagle.
@hidingtk2860
@hidingtk2860 2 года назад
A Dragon
@thomasdevine867
@thomasdevine867 2 года назад
In a battle an Eagle could be harmed. As the giant eagles are sophant beings like humans or elves, risking harm to one is a serious business. However, Fell Beasts seem to be just animals. Flippant cruelty to any living thing is vile. But riding a Fell Beast into battle is like riding a horse. In fact, as Fell Beasts seem to be less sophant than horses, riding one into battle is less morally iffy than riding a horse. Were riding a Giant Eagle is like riding a person. So I will ride the Fell Beast. The Eagles, like the other free peoples, shouldn't be pointlessly hampered in battle.
@wst8340
@wst8340 2 года назад
What did these beasts eat!
@wendigos_eat_people7177
@wendigos_eat_people7177 2 года назад
looking at their teeth, apparently meat.
@Josh-im9go
@Josh-im9go 2 года назад
Eagle all the way!!!
@SkeletorsSon
@SkeletorsSon 2 года назад
Don't worry in Tolkein fashion George RR had sh1t just appear out of nowhere as well lol
@leonardofaber5823
@leonardofaber5823 2 года назад
Well don, guys
@timothyherlihy6480
@timothyherlihy6480 2 года назад
Can I fly an eagle beast?
@kalenpadmore3103
@kalenpadmore3103 2 года назад
I see them as a mix between a dragon and a bat in my department thanks to the movies I don't see how they resblimbe a bird. When people watch the movies how could they not think Dragon like creature.
@lotsofspots
@lotsofspots 2 года назад
Pterodactyls were not dinosaurs!
@bronchitis1564
@bronchitis1564 2 года назад
I’m sorry but if the fel beasts have bad Bo, I’m definitely not riding them. Eagles all the way if not for just sanitary reasons
@morgoth173
@morgoth173 2 года назад
Video 141
@tristangarza3283
@tristangarza3283 2 года назад
First
@magatetus
@magatetus 2 года назад
🤔well the word dinosaur wasn't coined till the 1800s so it's a dragon like creature.
@thomasshirley318
@thomasshirley318 2 года назад
Men of the West did this topic and did it better. Go check out Men of the WEST. It's a superior Lord of The Rings channel No self promotion
@notmyname3671
@notmyname3671 2 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
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