Maybe borders of states inside countries. Some borders in Northern Germany are basically the same for centuries, the only thing is, that the states that end and start there changed a lot. For example, from duchies to federal states (who were still duchies) in the empire, Gauen in the 3rd Reich and then federal states in the west and districts in the east
I just want to say how much I appreciate the fact that you talk about the limitations of historical study, and that there's no way to know with 100% certainty that these answers are factually accurate. It bothers me to no end how certain historians can be about certain facts which are based on historical perspectives and best estimates. It's important to remember that the scientific integrity of history is limited when our sources are imperfect.
Just to help you out with this...old borders (thousands of years ago) were almost always decided on geographical positions (landscape).Such as rivers,lakes,hills,mountains,deserts etc.Many countries even nowdays have such borders if you look closely.
My dear it’s not only about historical studies, it applies to all sciences 🙂 as they said “the knowledge of today is the yesterday myth” so be open minded ✨
Serbian-Bosnian border on Drina river dates back to the split of the Roman empire. It divides Serbian people and it shouldn't exist, but it is a border and is the oldest.
Hello, my German friend, i'm Polish and our present border is propably the longest lasting in our history ;p And it's pretty close to original border from 1000 years ago, when slavic tribs formed Poland, so i guess it's a pretty good border, how do you think? ;p This constantly changing border between our countries shows how idea of nation was forming, because not that long time ago there wasn't such thing as nation, people were subjects to particular king, for example Gdańsk/Danzig was the biggest city in Poland in 16th century and it was loyal to Polish king, but majority of city were German speakers, in fact it was the biggest aggregation of German speakers in whole world at the time ;p or Poznań/Posen, for period of time it was German city with Polish majority, but it worked like regular German city. In mountain area there were villages where lived people who spoke German and cultivated German culture, but considered theirselves as Poles and it was completly normal at the time. So wars were game of Kings and Nobles, common people didn't really care if they were in Poland or Germany as long as they had a good life and they could speak language they want to and cultivate culture they want to. Problems start when authority try to change their cultural identity by force or treat some ethnic group as worse than other. We fought for 1000 years but people of our countries were in relatively good relations. Until big national movements of 19th century came and people stared to evaluate other people by their nationality, it brought war from kingdom vs kingdom to people vs people, which in fact mean total war. Today we still have some argues on diplomatic level, but on human level we are good i guess.
@@cpt.flamer7184 Well spoken, dear polish Neighbour. 😊 There are so many germans with polish Lastname here. An indication that we are all mixed. I'm happy that there are no border and teritorial questions to worry about any more. Greetings and love from Germany
Monaco's borders have changed since 1297, they once extended as far as Menton and Garavan in the east and Monti, north of those two towns. Something like 95% of Monaco's territory seceded from the state in 1848 due to high taxes on Lemon exports. (Menton is the lemon capital of Europe, or the Shelbyville of France) Plus Monaco was conquered by France after the revolution, for about 20 years (1793-1814) 1861 was the real recognition of Monaco, as we know it today.
European lemon production: Spain 6'330.53 tons Turkey 4'770.00 tons Italy 2,768.23 tons Greece 1,243.77 tons Portugal 374.41tons Cyprus 80.57 tons France 78.86 tons. Menton is the capital of what?
@@BrianZoeu I've heard that when Menton has it's traditiona lemon festival, they have to import lemons from Spain to make their harvest look lesss pathetic.
@@BrianZoeu I think he mean that menton WAS the capital of lemon (or at least an important production site). It is no longer one since long time ago...
Actually, today's polish border remians unchanged since 1945. BUT Before that, during the Second Commonwealth period (1918 - 1939) it changed it's borders like 6 times: -Versal Theaty gave us Greater Poland and Eastern Pomerania, -Silesian Uprising gave us Upper Sliesia, -Soviet War in 1920 gave us Wołyń (todays Belarus and Western Ukraine) -there were 2 plebiscites over Poland and Germany, around Silesia, and Warmia-Mazury (East Prussia), we lost both of them -we had a conflict over Cieszyn Silesia with Czechoslovakia -in 1922 we conquered Middle Lithuania (with Vilnus) and kept it unitil 1939 -and more minor changes So yeah, this joke is true.
If the virus had borders it couldn't. Now you see, the virus is also in Americas and Africa. Europe was only the first one to get it, and will be the first one to solve.
@@unknownaccount8898 Europe first to solve... People in Italy going out on vacation and to our beach and people whitout mask everywhere would like to have a word whit you. China effective quaratine would also like to have a word whit you.
I would like to point out that the Gil Creator of this Channel does not respect Borders at all! He Stormed into a meeting of mine unannounced and then annexed it. How Dare You Sir! Just playin haha. Great stuff man! Great to Meet You!
The borders in Central Europe are surprisingly ancient. We can start with the Czech Republic. The borders between the Czech Republic and Germany and Austria have not changed much perhaps for 900-1000 years. The borders between the Czech Republic and Silesia did not change too much either. The borders between the Czech lands of Moravia and Slovakia (for centuries as part of Hungary) have been basically the same since the Middle Ages. The borders of Austria and Slovakia (Hungary) are basically identical for perhaps at least 900 years. Slovakia (or Hungary) - Poland border in the Middle Ages has changed only minimally in the Middle Ages (Spiš region), in the 20th century in the Orava region, but there are sections that have not changed around 900 years. One might argue that these borders have shifted or disappeared for some time because they were a single state (for example, the Habsburg monarchy, Czechoslovakia), but the same can be said about the border between Lithuania and Russia). Yes, historically there have been some other states, but this is also true for Turkey, Iran and Iraq. The point is that the borders are hundreds of kilometers long today exactly where they were, say, 900 years ago.
But Silesia was part of the lands of the Bohemian crown until 1742, and it is a big chunk of land. Plus, the lands were not that stable as you suggest. Just a brief glance at the territories subsumed under the Bohemian crown and the changes they underwent since the 13th century till 1742 will tell you this.
Well, between the Czech crown lands and between them and their neighbours there were some minor transfers throughout the history, like the Duchy of Troppau, District of Glatz, Egerland, a piece of land under Mount Gross-Arber, Weitra land, Feldsberg/Valtice district. But the border which rests the most stable from 10th century, is the Czech-Slovak one. The most of history it was the border between the Holy Roman Empire and Hungary. There was only one interruption - 1948-1960 when it divided only districts, not lands. Only one cosmetic correction was effectuated in 1993, concerning few houses connected by road to Slovakia instead of Moravia.
General Knowledge, não sabia que eras Português :o parabéns pelo trabalho! sem duvida o melhor canal Português de cultura geral / história / geografia! Grande trabalho
Despite being a really old border, it is still astonishing about the French-Spanish border that you can still find so many traces of those times when the Aragonese crown had extended further north up to Carcassonne. The fact of finding Catalonian and Occitanian as local dialects/languages is also closely related to the close link to the Aragonese influence
Perpinyà (Perpignan in French) was a Catalan town in XVII century. It become french after the illegal Treaty of the Pirineus between the kings of France and of "Spain". Those mountains have never been a border for its inhabitants.
Actually, Monaco's current border dates from 1861 where it went from 24.5 km² to 2km² by selling off land east of the current territory to France. The money they got helped them kick-start Monte-Carlo's Casino (:
_The Russo-Norwegian border:_ A march by agreement between Norway and Novgorod in 1326 and surveyed and further treatied in the early 1800's. Whether it should be included (it's much more consistent than the Scottish-English border, for instance), it is regardless the longest unchanged border for Russia today. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway-Russia_border There has never been any fighting over the border, and an agreement has basically been in place since a sovereign nation first set foot/colonized the area. Norwegian fishermen were indeed the first to have permanent settlements on Kola, but (with exception of a later treaty which was abandoned under the Soviet Union) it was later predominantly settled by "Russian" natives (called Pomors iirc).
The Norwegian border didn't really change but the Russian did, from Finland independence after the Russian revolution to WW2, Finland had actually an access to the sea in the north and Norway and Russia didn't had a common border during this time span
Note about the Russian-Lithuanian border: After WW1, Lithuania took a swathe of land from East Prussia(now Kaliningrad). So it would have been established in 1919.
You are right with the northern border along the Memel / Neman river. This border was established in 1919. But, I think in this video he speaks about the eastern border line between the Memel / Neman river and the polish border line. This border was established in 1422 and is still the same today. The funny think about this is, that the country switched the side of the border. When you go 110 Years in the past, Russia was on the east side of this border and today Russia is on the west side of this border.
I think what's important here is the borders' unchanged shape through time, not the borders' continuous presence, with all the border control never leaving this border etc... It would be still remarkable if the border that existed 2k years ago would reappear in its 100% identical shape in modern times - still it would be the world's oldest border.
That Lithuanian-Russian borderline was established in 1923. The old border was fairly close, about 50km difference. However, the Latvia-Lithuania border is much older and remains more or less the same since 1200s. Back then, Livonia ruled over Latvia and Estonia, and many maps show the borderline was the same as it's now between Lithuania and Latvia. Crazy, having in mind all the wars that happened there...
Andorra was one of the numerous county's in the Hispanic Mark of Carlemany.The other county's unified in the kingdom of Aragon, the Principality of Catalonia and the kingdom of Navarre
@@elpaya7775 They will understand you better if you call Charlemagne Charlemagne. Also, the Principality of Catalonia is an invention, the correct term is the County of Barcelona
@@kenobi6257 lol chico deberías buscar principado de cataluña en internet. Se usó para denominar todos los condados bajo dominio del de barcelona (el conde de Barcelona era el conde principal de la zona, principal=princeps=principado) desde el siglo XIII.
@@maxpuente6291 Cuidao que vino el experto. El principado de Cataluña no existió nunca, en todo caso se le llamó condados catalanes. El principado, por cierto, es Gerona, no Cataluña. Chico? 24 años y un grado en historia.
Polish-Slovakia border hasn't changed (excluding a few hungarian cities rent in XVII century) since 1030s (although in this time it was Upper Hungary, not Slovakia)
They have, Poland has invaded Slovak-side towns since 1918 due to romanticism of the Tatras (even though Polish literally means people of the fields), and then in 1938 Poland, collaborating with Nazi Germany, invaded and annexed multiple villages, which are still under Poland until this day
0:03 ah yes, my favorite countries, the Baltic Republic, the Caspian Caliphate and the United States of the Great Lakes [Edit: Oh yes, how could I forget my favorite African country, The Victorian Democratic Republic & and the country with the most tragic history due to being sandwiched between Turkey and Russia, The Black Federation]
@@General.Knowledge Italian pronunciation shouldn't be difficult for you. You just have to know a few rules: 1.- double consonants sound separate, for example: bello [bel-lo], pizza [pitz-tza]; 2.- "g" + "n" makes the sound "nh" in Portuguese or "ñ" in Spanish; 3.- "che" and "chi" make the sound "ke" and "ki" respectively; 4.- "r" is a soft sound made with the tip of the tongue touching the palate and in "double r" you make a strong "r" rolling the tongue, as well the words that begin with" r "are pronounced as "double r".
Hearing your English accent i guessed it probably wasn't your native language but for some reason I never guessed Portuguese! I'm first generation American so I grew up speaking mixed Portuguese and English at home, I'd love to see a video in the future in Portuguese, because I can feel myself getting more and more out of practice.
I'm going to be honest, I was going to just skip through to see the list but I respected the fact that you shared the full list early on so much that I watched the entire video and really enjoyed it.
@@archstanton6102 Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Isle of Man, Cornwall, Brittany. Galicia and other parts of Northern Spain and Portugal are sometimes included even though they don't have Celtic languages.
@@GeographyWorld I though whole of Ireland was considered as one "Celtic Nation" as the divide is a relatively modern concept from 1929. There is a Celtic pub in Austin, Texas, with 7 flags outside of the 7 you mention. Not spanish/portugese apart from Galicia
I love your disclaimer as to the inaccuracies. I'm a mapmaker myself, and I often have people criticize my maps or ask me how I can be sure... The thing is.. I can never be.
Andorra has had this border for a bit longer than since 1278. Andorra's borders were defined in 1133 when Urgel's bishop received those territories from Armengol VI. What changed in 1278 was just who ruled the country (Foix Count was added to the government alongside Urgel's bishop) but the borders were officially stablished in 1133.
Limburgish Mapping, funnily enough, I'm sure I was told the same thing by a guide in Monaco, when I passed through on a longer tour. It wasn't a local guide, though.
@@adrianzanoli What? Not at all... Menton and Roquebrune declared their independence from Monaco in 1848-49 and voted to join France in 1860. Annexation ratified by a treaty between France and Monaco in 1861.
as far as i know (and as Wikipedia tells me) Monaco used to be larger until about 1860 when the villages of Menton and Roquebrunne were annexed by France/ceded by Monaco
Bem me parecia que eras português, a tua pronúncia das palavras portuguesas neste vídeo, bem como no vídeo sobre a Marinha, eram demasiado perfeitas. De qualquer das formas, bom trabalho e continua assim, os vídeos são excelentes e dá para aprender imenso com eles. Um grande abraço para estes tempos que correm! Ainda não reparei se já falaste sobre esse tema ou não, mas um vídeo sobre o tratado de Tordesilhas e as mudanças constantes da linha que dividia o mundo seria um tópico interessante de abordar.
8:20 What’s about Memel’? It’s part of Lithuania now. BUT, Memel’ was territory which Antanta gave to Lithuania after *Versailles Peace Treaty* (1918). Third Reich took this territory after *Ultimatum of Lithuania* (1939). USSR gave Memel’ to Lithuania after *The Great Patriotic War* (1941-1945) or *The World War II* (1939-1945). What do you think about this?
He is not speaking about Memelland (that makes the Northern border of Prussia-Kaliningrad), but about the Eastern border of Prussia (modern Kaliningrad) near to Kybartai town.
The Border between Belgium and France changed by accident resently! :D A farmer moved the Stone that marked the border between France and Belgium to be able to drive on his field with his new tractor by two meters. Because of that, France lost around 5 square kilometers. Few days later the Farmer had to put the Stone back to the old place to return the mistake, but it was the first change of this European Border for ages :D
The Tim Traveller found out that pretty much everything in that account is bunkum and the result of bad journalism. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ddlv47t1tQ.html The landowner was not a farmer, did not move the stone, could not have driven a tractor where the stone was, and would not have redefined the border by moving the stone anyway.
In 1812, France directly annexed Catalonia into her domain, drastically changing the Franco-Spanish border. While it did not last for long, it was a large territorial exchange.
True. But I think he said in his preamble that he is counting borders that may have changed in the meantime but currently reflect very old borders. I was kind of amused that he included the Scotland-England border, which was truly fluid for about 500 years due to lords who felt free to change sides (or pledge to both) depending on the local political or military situation.
Thailand and Cambodia, or Thailand and "Burma". There were many wars that have had one overpower the other, but the geographical struggle between the three groups of people and the lands in-between their respective river systems end up on the same lines time and time again. Also it was really cool to know that the bishopric and count still retain their power in Andorra
About San Marino : it was an enclave of the "pontiff states", the pontiff states disappeared during the Italian unification, made step by step (1859 north part; September 1860 central part; 1870 Southern part including Rome) . So they could border with Italy only when Italy was created in 1861.
The border arround Büsingen was established in the early 18. Century, as Austria give all villages in that region back to the canton Schaffhausen - without Büsingen. Comnent at that time: "Büsingen should be an austrian split in the body of Schaffhausen forever". Well, forever Austria? Today it's a part of Germany! The Last change in the swiss-german border was in 1967, as the enclave/exclave Verenahof was give from Germany to Switzerland.
Since Portugal doesn’t recognize spanish sovereignty over Olivença, the border hasn’t technically changed. Real changes though are Ermesende, Salvaterra do Minho or São Félix dos Galegos.
I would absolutely add the Czech-Slovak border. For the most of history, from 10th century, it divided the Holy Roman Empire and Hungary. And after 1806, there were always lands binded in a personal union or a federation. There was only one interruption - 1948-1960 when it divided only districts, not historic lands. Only one cosmetic correction was effectuated in 1993, of practical reasons, concerning few houses connected by road to Slovakia instead of Moravia.
Just a little mistake for Monaco’s borders: before 1860 Monaco was bigger but when Nizza became French : the two cities in Monaco principality wanted to be French too : Menton and Roquebrune voted to be separated from Monaco because taxes was higher in Monaco! But in 1863 the prince open a casino in Monte-Carlo and he abolished all taxes in the principality of Monaco. This explain why borders changed at this date. Otherwise your videos are always interesting and very good!
Menton and Roquebrune "wanting to be french" is a bit of a euphemism for "France really wanted Menton and Roquerbrune". It was in the middle of the second french empire, and France was really hungry for incorporating any micro-states still within french borders. The prince of Monaco barely managed to retain his core city by turning Monaco into a sort of disneyland version of Paris, a popular tourist destination for wealthy (and politically influencial) parisians.
Menton and Roquebrune had declared themselves free cities in 1848 and requested Sardinia's protection. They were de-facto administrated as part of the Division (and afterwards Province) of Nizza (using the Italian name because back then it was owned by the Italian-speaking Kingdom of Sardinia) for 12 years until they held a plebiscite. The Franco-Sardinian Plombières Agreement had Nizza and Savoy vote on whether to join France or not, and in Menton and Roquebrune both Sardinia and France heavily tried to press the population to vote for annexation
Ahhhh! Now I get it how youflawlessly pronounce portuguese names. Nice to see a fellow portuguese making youtube content, and a great one at it. Way to go!
Before the Partition of Poland, Poland had some land south of the Carpathians. Slovakia (Well, at that time Hapsburg Austria and before them - Hungary) had a couple villages that are today in Poland.
Didn‘t he explain, that he was not talking about the year of establishment? I suppose, due to the fact that Poland was dissolved various times, this border does not qualify. Regarding Slovakia, wasn‘t Slovakia only been established in the 1990? Was there ever before an independent state of Slovakia?
Bulgarian-Wallachian (Romanian) border from vidin/Kalofat to Silistra/Ostrov is from foundation of Walachia thru Ottoman regions to today. It is old(older than some of your vid)
So if Portugal and Andorra have the oldest bordes and the one between Spain and France is also one of the oldest then maybe we can say that it’s Spain that has the oldest borders and the best neighbor you can have.
Yes, well, Spain is a good neighbor, you don't want trouble, neither do we... I actually live in a region in northern Portugal borderimg Spain. We have a close relationship with Galicia.
Só hoje percebi que és português apesar de ter vindo rever este vídeo. Para mim és de longe o nosso melhor "youtuber". Abraço e continuação de muito bom trabalho.
6:07 nah, they weren’t that minor changes, I mean on an absolute basis they were small, but Switzerland is generally speaking pretty small so, relatively to the size of the country those were remarkable changes...
You should've include borders between bosnia and serbia on river drina that dates back to 395 AD when Roman emperor Theodosius divided empire in half on east and west And incude borders on river danube between bulgaria and romania, whitch too dates to days of roman empire
@@ThundorLord the most northern frontier of the Roman empire was actually the antonine wall which is roughly on a line between modern day Glasgow and Edinburgh. North of that line was Caledonia and south of it was Britannia
@@andyallan2909 it was part of the kingdom of Strathclyde the same as modern Dumfries and Galloway. It was attacked by both the kingdom of England and the kingdom of alba. Alba took the northern part of Strathclyde (Dumfries and Galloway) and England took the southern part (Cumbria). The lake District was part of the kingdom of Strathclyde but was never part of the kingdom of alba or Scotland. Also Edinburgh was once in England
While most of the Swiss-German border was unchanged major changes occurred in 1802 when Napoleon actually split some cities that lie along the Rhine river and gave the southern part to Switzerland. So the borders near Basel underwent a major change and the borders being old is only true for the eastern part
Austrians are basically Germans, just with an own state and until 1945 it was seen like that (Same culture, language, same state/confederation until 1866). So ,,austrian-german relationship" are just a thing since 1945 or maybe 1871 with the German Empire and Austria-Hungary (Also they still saw themselves as Germans altogether)
@@assortedcapability4578 wtf no, I heard very often that those two are different nations but different ethnicity?! Even Dutch and German people aren't really different ethnicities
You skipped the CZECH - GERMAN border so fast, yet big parts of the border is untouched for little over 1000 years!!! Shoudn’t it be described more here? 😳 There would so much of interesting stuff from both old history and for example the time of Munich Agreement. Pity You would skip it like this
I love how on the first map less than 10 seconds into the video, The Baltic sea has already been drained and formed into its own country! Same goes for the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea and also Lake Victoria!
The Norwegian-Swedish border should be on the list: It has stayed the same since 1660 (when Sweden had to return some of their occupied parts of Norway).
Huh, anyone else notice that one of the background songs in this is 'It's a long long way to Tipperary'? I just noticed it and it's a great song, kinda cool to see it used here.
This whole border business is an interesting one. In Ireland we have a border(from 1921) would be nice if iwasn't there. It is a frigging nuisance. One should check out the road and defunct railway between Cavan and Clones. It will be noted that the defunct railway between these two towns crossed the border no less than four times.
Flight Plan Aviation it doesn’t separate nowadays england with scotland, it’s actually situated a bit more south than the border with scotland, and originally it separated roman britannia from the northern part and i don’t think it served as a border for any other entity after them, but again i am pretty sure that england nowadays border goes a bit beyond that wall so for sure the border it defined didn’t survive till today
Feanorlike oh thank you I didn’t realise they didn’t use it as a border I thought Scotland had built it, I’m not too good on history I live near the wall that s why thank you
@@Feanorlike the border wasn't always north of hadrians wall. eg Penrith in the lake district used to be part of Scotland and is a fair bit south of the wall.
@Hammer 001 If you're counting the furthest points invading armies reached then by your rationale Derby used to be in Scotland, Stalingrad used to be in Germany and Moscow used to be in France.
Isn't the czech-german border pretty old ? I guess it did change during ww2 because germany took it but I think it has looked the same for very long time (of course it was Austria-hungary before but, the border was same, I think)
The date of the border of the Dominican Republic and Haiti is so wrong on that map. It says that the border is from 1929, which in fact suffered just a minor revision that year. The border was defined informally first in 1678 with the treaty of Nijmegen, later re-discussed in 1697 with the treaty of Ryswick, and finally, the border was formally established in 1777 with the treaty of Aranjuez between Spain and France. If we consider only the latter one, it wouldn't still make your top list though.
