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What Are Women Actually Attracted To? - Catherine Salmon 

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@ChrisWillx
@ChrisWillx 2 года назад
This episode is very interesting. Enjoy! Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:21 Why People Enjoy “Facial Deposits” 09:44 What is the Psychology Behind Rough Sex? 15:57 Why So Many Niches of Porn Exist 29:02 Is there an Agenda Towards Feminine Men? 35:55 Women’s Obsession with True Crime 46:52 Is Evolutionary Psychology Sexist? 53:23 How Having Babies Impacts Sex Drive 1:02:33 Where to Find Catherine
@leolee8847
@leolee8847 2 года назад
Hi @Chris Williamson , I actually felt embarrassed for your guest's comments and lack of anthropological/psychological studies and researches... to me, she came across more motivated by the "doing", in lieu of the actual core "understanding". 😔
@memastarful
@memastarful 2 года назад
Stay encouraged Chris you're doing a great job
@alelectric2767
@alelectric2767 2 года назад
@@leolee8847 No One Cares!!!
@marias6451
@marias6451 2 года назад
What was that study mentioned by Cathrine on mate preference and living area? thank you
@eddie-ni5ox
@eddie-ni5ox 2 года назад
Are we suppose to think the angled chair is unconscious !
@buzzcrushtrendkill
@buzzcrushtrendkill 2 года назад
Love it. There is no escaping our animalistic nature. We can talk publicly about toxic masculinity, male dominated society, etc, etc, but no "romance" novel features an insecure small man as the man of interest.
@unicron2109
@unicron2109 2 года назад
I'm off on a grape and pillage. Fancy it? If we get hungry we'll eat whatever we can scalp. Please bring some hand sanitiser and facial cream as it's going to be a long journey
@thijsg8549
@thijsg8549 2 года назад
True but how would you explain the enormous succes of movies like Notting Hill?
@wendybird7059
@wendybird7059 2 года назад
Love that movie, and sweet men.
@patmaloney5735
@patmaloney5735 2 года назад
@@thijsg8549 She explains it in the first few minutes.
@rivtekk
@rivtekk 2 года назад
@@thijsg8549 you chose an outlier as an example. Outliers are not the net medium
@whitneyburns9025
@whitneyburns9025 2 года назад
I believe that one big reason women prefer to read is because it's easier to visualize herself as the woman in the story. When they are watching it's much harder to take out the character you see and replace it with yourself.
@hephestosthalays2700
@hephestosthalays2700 2 года назад
Is it like painting between the lines? She can fill the picture in a way she imagines?
@ninianstorm6494
@ninianstorm6494 2 года назад
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@grannyannie2948
@grannyannie2948 2 года назад
I think it's also that we don't just see the actions we know the feelings and thoughts of at least one character. I don't think many women choose actual erotic novels as opposed to novels with erotic segments. For myself as a young woman I loved historical romance. The wonderful feminine clothes, castles being besieged, horses being spooked etc. And women being vulnerable women. And rescued by brave men who adored them. I do know why women like crime stories. In the Victorian era sex was suppressed. The cheap trashy novels directed at women were "Penny Horrors" about murders. In the more permisive twentieth century they became "Penny Dreadfuls" where sex became the new murder. It's only in recent times that women saw sex with a man who was not their chosen love, as not being almost as horrific as murder. However in both situations it allows women the excitement of danger, without real danger.
@pp-bb6jj
@pp-bb6jj 2 года назад
Men don't have this problems. We are all William Wallace when he decapitates English head from the body.
@johnathanmandrake7240
@johnathanmandrake7240 2 года назад
It's because woman have successfully projected the whole visualization aspect of sexuality onto men. In read porn he can be exactly what you like, ie literally unrealistic, because it's your imagination.
@tjc4085
@tjc4085 2 года назад
As a woman, I’m going to admit that women have and will always be attracted to the conventionally masculine man. The praise for Harry Styles and effeminate men is quite frankly BS and women lying to themselves because they wish it were true as it’d fit the world-view they’re comfortable with instead of reality.
@Lexis001
@Lexis001 2 года назад
I agree.
@Alex-cm7hr
@Alex-cm7hr 2 года назад
I don’t think women are lying to themselves. Harry Styles is undoubtedly still good looking. Often the more masculine a man is, the less conventionally handsome he is - The Rock being a good example of this.
@tjc4085
@tjc4085 2 года назад
@@Alex-cm7hr v true, but I doubt women want men to wear dresses from now on. It could be that Harry styles wearing a dress showcased an extreme level of confidence and security in his masculinity that appealed to women.. just food for thought
@Alex-cm7hr
@Alex-cm7hr 2 года назад
@@tjc4085 yeah I wasn’t really aware of that stuff. He does seem to have some gender-fluid nonsense going on right now. Men wearing dresses definitely isn’t attractive. Dresses were designed for the female form and look wrong on men.
@robbiemedica2652
@robbiemedica2652 2 года назад
Harry in the past was always considered a bad boy, so not the best example of feminine men.
@ordinaryguy815
@ordinaryguy815 Год назад
I love this womans laughter and energy
@wendellbabin6457
@wendellbabin6457 5 месяцев назад
In contrast with Scowls, Disapproval, Bile, Bitterness, Suspicion, Complaining Misandry and Resentment? Ooh, ooh I forgot Entitlement and Petulance and Immaturity and Lack of Accountability and Spite.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 Год назад
I love this woman. She literally treads where others are too scared to walk!
@DRKILLIE
@DRKILLIE Год назад
*dances
@ga8065
@ga8065 Год назад
Some of it comes from her credentials listed at the top of this post. She's studied and is not uptight about any of it.
@noaharthur9041
@noaharthur9041 Год назад
​@@ga8065so she's as legit as they come.
@linksvexier9272
@linksvexier9272 2 года назад
I'm an old dude out of the game, my experience is that I got pass the first filtering when I had no expectations when meeting woman I just talked to them. I found my wife when my flatmate was hitting on her friend in a bar she looked bored I though she would like somebody to talk to my flatmate when home empty handed my wife didn't. So I tell my sons, meet people and have fun without expectations, your girl friend will find you when she's ready.
@jimdavis8391
@jimdavis8391 8 месяцев назад
Yup, I just got there aged 51. Wish I'd made it a lot sooner, now I just mingle with people, yes, of course I still find a need arising to be with a certain woman but I allow that desire to pass and then get back to just hanging out. I'm content and happy even when women don't find me of interest, there are plenty more of them!
@marccas10
@marccas10 2 года назад
This lady just radiates joy.
@markcavandish1295
@markcavandish1295 2 года назад
No Doubt
@alexmc69
@alexmc69 2 года назад
And also a faint odour of semen
@eddie-ni5ox
@eddie-ni5ox 2 года назад
The more degenerate, the more women love it, introduce children and animals and she will be OOOOOO and soaking her chair, tells you everything you need to know about what women are. Morals ??? Looking for a yellow Ruby in in the Himalayas is more likely.
@eddie-ni5ox
@eddie-ni5ox 2 года назад
Do women even exist in hard sciences, every single one that he brings on always always always SELF REPORTED SURVEY, pain to me might be 3 same level of pain to a woman might be a 7 who is right who is wrong, doesnt matter, the data is basura, basura in basura out ! So the statistical regression analyses is useless, no objective measure means that at best its likely but unsure. They have ruined statistics permanently, its not trust-able, when statistically significant was mentioned 70 years ago, it meant something, today its a maybe at best.
@TheWisdom3
@TheWisdom3 2 года назад
Looks fun to hang around with.
@BirdFinder100
@BirdFinder100 2 года назад
The first segment was the wildest, most egregious piece of information I’ve ever heard. Yet I sat thru it. I am now ashamed of myself, yet weirdly more informed 😂.
@MisyeDiVre
@MisyeDiVre Год назад
Nou la! 🇭🇹
@samrene3
@samrene3 Год назад
Moun lakay 🇭🇹
@gabrieljordan8015
@gabrieljordan8015 2 года назад
"Don't try to understand women. They understand each other and they hate each other." - Al Roker
@cd0130
@cd0130 2 года назад
yes
@twsd
@twsd Год назад
Al Bundy
@sirdiealot53
@sirdiealot53 6 месяцев назад
Al Roker??? The weatherman?? 😂
@icecreaminc8013
@icecreaminc8013 6 месяцев назад
@@sirdiealot53It was said by Al Bundy. and as for the quote, its true (in part) because women are all about double standards, they want one thing, but want the other thing too.. not just bad boy sexually, but nice guy for family, everything. And the 2nd part of the quote, They DO NOT understand each other, (they will however surround themselves with like minded cliques, to support their own style/thinking ; see echo chambers). Its not that they hate each other, they see all other women as competition. so he was right about trying to understand them, because you need a PHD to see it all, and sort of close to how they treat each other.
@bigheadrhino
@bigheadrhino 2 года назад
Very interesting topic. Curious how many other people feel this way but, Tbh, the more attractive I find my partner, the less novel I want the sex to be. I find that the most boring sex is the best with the partner I desire the most because the simple contact alone is more than stimulating enough. And I wouldn’t even want any additional distraction. When the partner is maybe not as inherently stimulating is when I find myself wanting to do the more novel stuff.
@eldon5349
@eldon5349 2 года назад
Could never give THIS (what you said) context… but you nailed it Much more desirable IMO to “hate-fuck” a one-off/purely transactional partner vs your “lover”, which tends to be more sensual. Complete difference in feeling.
@Amit-ey1uj
@Amit-ey1uj Год назад
Thanks for sharing. interesting point of view
@aretwodeetoo1181
@aretwodeetoo1181 Год назад
Interesting point. As a guy I can somewhat relate though I never thought about it like that. On the other hand, it seems to me it's the opposite for women (more adventurous the more into the guy they are). So... In general it's probably a counterproductive tendency and one we should actively avoid.
@AB-sm1qf
@AB-sm1qf Год назад
You’re not wrong as a woman I feel the same. I mean it is thrilling to be with someone you actually desire and when they’re likable and you click? OOF. The body is so ecstatic that it heats up to the sound of their voice. I find that’s the best sex to have. Then the novel stuff feels extra kinky because the desire is so intense.
@LauraVolpintesta
@LauraVolpintesta Год назад
THANK YOU a for sharing this VOICE!
@stenhendrix8538
@stenhendrix8538 2 года назад
Chris, great podcast as always. Appreciate your work and hope you continue doing the great job you're currently doing. You and your podcast have truly had a life changing effect on me, thank you. Why do you reckon people are so negative about this podcast and the educated woman you spoke to? What's up with the whole "don't ask women for advice about women"?
@ChrisWillx
@ChrisWillx 2 года назад
As soon as you start talking about evpsych or gender dynamics as a guy, you get lumped into the redpill manosphere. Some of the redpill world allow and encourage their audience to behave like brats. I’m not part of that world, and I don’t want that audience.
@JosephBacons
@JosephBacons 2 года назад
@@ChrisWillx I love that stance, chris. I’ve been feeling disgusted at what the redpill movement has become. Some are trying hard to justify treating women as objects instead of equal counterparts and disguising it as the “realistic” way of viewing the world.
@Vladimyrful
@Vladimyrful 2 года назад
Women generally do give quite poor advice when it comes to dating though, I mean don't take my word for it, browse and see for yourself.
@JosephBacons
@JosephBacons 2 года назад
@@Vladimyrful I think people in general give pretty bad advice. But I understand what you mean because I’d agree that more women act like they have good dating advice 😂. Perhaps experience and age are better categories to judge on.
@Vladimyrful
@Vladimyrful 2 года назад
@@JosephBacons Oh yeah, fully agreed! Because people usually don't have the best grasp of the problem they're trying to solve. (I'm generalizing but you get what I mean).
@DPham1
@DPham1 2 года назад
A significant number of people not being able to understand that men and women are "equal in value" does not mean men and women "are the same" is troubling.
@lordofgingers
@lordofgingers 2 года назад
Men and women are not equal in value. Male disposability reflects this. Men are left to die but the women and kids get to leave when wars and crises break out That is not equal. But evolutionarily speaking, it makes sense why it’s like that.
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 Год назад
Do you listen to SUZANNE VENKER too?
@natejuda6855
@natejuda6855 Год назад
Women don't just scream at Justin Bieber concerts. You can be sitting at a Cheesecake Factory at 6 pm on a Friday and if there is a group of young women at a table, every few minutes they will scream in unison....and if they see a friend enter the restaurant, they will scream at each other. I often use this to dispute the myth that women life in fear....people who live in fear do not behave in ways that attract maximum attention to themselves.
@supremereader7614
@supremereader7614 2 года назад
I actually asked an onlyfans girl why she actually did that - and she said that she liked the 'degrading' experience.
@annarboriter
@annarboriter Год назад
And certainly saying so during a session earns her more tips, too; win/win
@caramelconundrum9280
@caramelconundrum9280 2 года назад
Women want a perfect blend of both
@Sam-by3kk
@Sam-by3kk Год назад
In my experience with women that I've spoken to after the fact, their like for rough sex is not about the "wow he wants me so bad", it's more about her being able to surrender and let go entirely, almost like letting go of the self or complete escapism for a while
@AB-sm1qf
@AB-sm1qf Год назад
Ring a ding ding!
@sauter1
@sauter1 11 месяцев назад
I've had some who were into bdsm (submissive side) tell me that it absolves them of responsibility and hence also of guilty feelings about sex...
@amandaforrester7636
@amandaforrester7636 11 месяцев назад
Its both. And it takes TRUST to be able to let go like that, too.
@1twistedcpl6575
@1twistedcpl6575 9 месяцев назад
As a woman my first 15ish years of sex was unsatisfying. I enjoyed it but I rarely got "there." I was hung up on "his" pleasure and of if he would "put a label" on me in his head. Then in my early 30s I met my now husband and my not being able have orgasms really bothered HIM! He felt he wasn't "good enough" to please me...and he was "man" enough to tell me so. I assured him it was not him but it didn't help. After a few more weeks he had enough. He told me my sexual pleasure was not supposed to be about him, that it supposed to be about myself. And that my being able to "let go" and enjoy myself would in turn increase the pleasure he got from being with me. Which in turn would increase my pleasure even more etc etc. He was so right! We've been together 21 years now, married 15...and we're still enjoying it together!
@Sam-by3kk
@Sam-by3kk 9 месяцев назад
@@1twistedcpl6575 That's great to hear - at the end of the day sexual compatibility is not just about 'selfless vs. selfish', it's usually more about how each person 'gets off' that then can come off as selfless/selfish In terms of your husband, he sounds similar to me in that he probably gets off on watching the girls pleasure more than anything else, so it's a core feature of how he then acts
@yohaizilber
@yohaizilber 2 года назад
“Not every woman cares about money” -Every Woman
@orebrh562
@orebrh562 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@ree2453
@ree2453 2 года назад
I mean that's correct. A 18-20 year old woman will date a broke guy who's tall , has a prominent, sharp square jaw, prominent cheekbones, hunter eyes over a recessed chin rich guy. That' s when we talk about actual physical attraction, not betabuxxing
@anthonypillarella
@anthonypillarella 2 года назад
They don't, especially past the point of some comfort. Yeah, few women are gonna be hyped on a guy making $20k/yr with no prospects but once you've hit semi-comfortable-life income, it's not that big a deal for most.
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK 2 года назад
They want proof of your potential - money can go, good genes and memes, not so much..
@hailtothe_rooster1572
@hailtothe_rooster1572 2 года назад
You can be broke when a woman is in her 304 phase When she’s washed up she’s gonna turn into the typical most exceptional special woman in the world and deserve a high value man As a man it’s your job to read where that woman stands and not invest time in a relationship when you can level up and get better quality down the line. Women decrease value in the sexual marketplace with high tier men over time Men increase their value over time. Once a man hits his peak the options are endless Women will always have endless options because men will always seek that pump and dump
@soni88eliza
@soni88eliza 2 года назад
I'm south Indian, but grew up outside of India for the most part. So my take on it may not be fully informed, but I am familiar enough that I feel comfortable speculating. India has a very socially conservative culture. Granted it's modernizing rapidly, but there are still large swaths of society where taboos still exist on women dressing in a scandalous/revealing manner, often reinforced by society and close family/relatives. So perhaps the most likeliest scenario/ "natural" manner in which someone might come across a woman's body being revealed may be in the context of breastfeeding? I wonder if that's why it's such a popular category, because it has proximity to something that could possibly happen in reality, at least more than the other extravagant imagined scenarios that porn seems to typically put forward.
@aks1993kumar
@aks1993kumar 2 года назад
Breastfeeding is actually quite popular in India and has been shown in movies and tv shows and is a relatively common occurrence in buses and trains. This doesn’t happen in other countries as much. I remember having being ‘sprayed’ with milk directly from her breast when I was curious about a bai breastfeeding her kid (as a funny thing of course) lol.
@sunfish4095
@sunfish4095 5 месяцев назад
It could be that there is a higher rate of breastfeeding in india so the imprint takes place and thus adult male attraction. In the US many are not breastfeed and after a few weeks of maternity leave babies are sent to a corporate / govt facility for child care. Over all, male attachment to mother and female is broken at critical developmental phases so in adult life there is less attraction to breast and female in general so relationships are more transactional as males are unable to bond with females in the same way if they were mothered when young.
@stevensenator4804
@stevensenator4804 Год назад
By my mid twenties, I figured out to watch what women actually do vs. listen to what they say. Many things I was taught about women growing up were flat out wrong. The problem is that many women are happy drinking the popular culture Kool-Aid until they hit their early 30s.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Год назад
I was 13 when The Beatles arrived to America. I have three sisters. I was amazed at the zombie-like hypnotic state girls would go into. It really cautioned me about females. They screamed for The Beatles, then The Rolling Stone, The Dave Clark Five, and on and on. I felt that they were capable of betrayal and that they were more interested in the image than the person. I didn't know that I was witnessing the Alpha Male reaction in females.
@bigbanknewyork3655
@bigbanknewyork3655 5 месяцев назад
I've seen them at celebrity parties Same scenario.
@2HRenovation
@2HRenovation 2 года назад
She is a very effective researcher/educator.
@OliveraBenavidez
@OliveraBenavidez 2 года назад
La imaginación, esa es la respuesta a tu pregunta entre la diferencia de ver una película y leer. La fantasía es personal, no es lo que se imaginó un guionista de una película de bajo presupuesto. Muy bueno el video!
@K3r0411
@K3r0411 2 года назад
I would caution against drawing conclusions towards what women want from romance novels. While it’s true that about 80% of romance readers are women, romance is only a relatively small fraction of fiction, which again is just a fraction of books overall. Then one has to take into account that about 40% of the population don’t read at all.
@pera.j.andersson
@pera.j.andersson Год назад
And believing fiction will guide you to your love life is a bit immature. Some people may have a hard time separating the two (like "Don Jon" of the movie of the same name), but not the majority. Methink.
@taytayski7118
@taytayski7118 2 года назад
This type of discourse is great. I only hope everyone who watches also realises that for all the women that every discussion point does apply to, there will be tens-of-thousands to billions of women who it does not apply to, and if you assume that a generalization of evolutionary/sexual psychology applies to all women (or men), through your resulting approaches and assumptions in life and love, you might accidentally close yourself off to the women of the world that these generalizations don't apply to. The most general feature of evolutionary/sexual psychology is that it produces variation (in what women and men are attracted to). The best thing you can do is learn how to read people well, learn what they like, and adapt to what their unique psychology is. Some women don't like to be degraded, and genuinely do like nice and gentle men, just like there are men out there who prefer to be submissive. If you meet a woman like that who you like and want to be with, just be willing to potentially accept that she is built that way for real, and not be stuck in assuming that she wants something else or doesnt yet know her own psychology (which is also possible), like many vids and podcasts might unintentionally lead their viewers astray in believing, putting them in a worse off place where they can only ever attract the type of women that gets caricaturized in some of these discussions (extraverted, high-feeling, hypersexual, testy, etc.)
@nf6386
@nf6386 2 года назад
Today I learned that even male frogs have to deal with “sh!t tests”.
@2Ten1Ryu
@2Ten1Ryu Год назад
I seem to have snatched myself a partner that is both masculine and sensitive at the same time. He's Austrian, I'm German, we got to know each other via online gaming. I moved to live with him, three years ago, after having been in a LDR for five plus years. Engaged now and going to be married in summer next year. He is masculine in the traditional sense of being very sporty, well-built, working out a lot, being a hunter and collector of guns (which is very uncommon here, compared to the U.S) and goes shooting a lot. He is also a very good cook and takes care of our home more than me, because I work full time and he is working part-time. He is as much into cuddling as I am. So. Jackpot? (also considered very handsome by many people) Here is the thing, though: he is 3 years younger than me. I had my reservations at first, because I was 25 and he was 22 when we met, but he was taking evening courses to get is college degree and also doing an apprenticeship as a laboratory assistant, so that seemed pretty responsible and mature to me. He also doesn't drink. Only a very occasional beer, like once every two to three months. Oh, and he is 5,8'. I am 5,2' myself, though. It seems to me like the mating crisis is way more prevalent in the U.S. in Europe, or at least Germany and Austria don't seem to be this affected (yet). I feel like the demands from potential partners and beauty standards are much more severe than here. I have no data to back this up, but from what I see and know, it seems to be true.
@Meshuga63
@Meshuga63 11 месяцев назад
European maternity/paternity policies in the workforce suggest a more pro-family stance, relative to the US as well. Perhaps this translates to pro-dating, pro-marriage as well?
@JimmyJaxJellyStax
@JimmyJaxJellyStax 2 года назад
A charismatic dedicated dad with chad-like abilities
@unapologeticanti-feminist3205
Nope, a charismatic Chad with dedicated dad-like abilities. In romance novels, the guy starts off as total non-dad material like Christian Grey and usually does not want or feel like he can become a husband/dad. Only after he falls in love with the girl does he become perfect husband/dad material.
@crosselsmith776
@crosselsmith776 2 года назад
I remember I was a pretty short as 13 year old. I used to act kind and very friendly. Woman in school used to ignore me and guys used to bully me. I had no friends. Over the years developed a emotionless dark personality who didn't give a fck about anyone. I also became the second tallest guy in the class. And suddenly women began to chase me. They even started to write 50 shades of grey tier fanfictions about me. No matter what society say most girls always like a dominating masculine man not some caring emotional guy.
@flyaway6671
@flyaway6671 2 года назад
Almost believable until the fanfiction thing lol
@bro918
@bro918 Год назад
​@8thaccount321yes
@bryceherring946
@bryceherring946 2 года назад
Sex has always been a physical act, and passion and romance allows the man to physically express his love, and sometimes that can be more aggressive but it's not associated with violence. Having sex and or making love and allowing the man to physically take control, assuming he knows what hes doing is the highest form of connection between a man and a women, and it also means bodies are in motion and there will be some sort of physicality or even roughness, but done correctly, it represents the love a man has for that women and ultimately expressing that with masculine energy, whoever said good sex had to be soft and light like in some soppy romance novel, when real passion is expressed it can come out as strong, bold and powerful, but never violent as that would entail anger or loss of control, the complete opposite of when a man is showing love to a women. People have confused rough sex for good sex, people think that good sex has to be rough but that's because in those situations there is no actual passion and love involved, its just transactional. If a man is truly expressing his physical love for a women and she knows how to properly recieve and allow that man in, it will be strong and passionate, not rough, rough sex is for two adults who have no feeling or connection, just smashing it out.
@AmeliaBodilia
@AmeliaBodilia Год назад
I believe lust drives the physicality and love tempers it to some degree. A combination of lust and love makes for good sex in my experience. On the whole I agree with your comment .lol
@AB-sm1qf
@AB-sm1qf Год назад
I agree with you.
@leebrown1049
@leebrown1049 2 года назад
Some great comments below so I'm just going to add yet another great show. Thanks for introducing us to these interesting experts Chris.
@JimBillyRayBob
@JimBillyRayBob 10 месяцев назад
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Sometimes degrading IS arousing. It can sometimes be both, for both people.
@jackdaripper137
@jackdaripper137 Год назад
This girl knows what she’s doing wearing that low cut shirt. And it’s working
@jimmyflawless
@jimmyflawless 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad I came across this episode.
@LukeC908
@LukeC908 2 года назад
I feel like this is explained to be way more complicated than need be
@kubrickenigma7977
@kubrickenigma7977 2 года назад
But then there would be no conversation, and so then what?
@lordofgingers
@lordofgingers 2 года назад
It always starts out that way. Then, it eventually takes shape and before you know it we'll have concrete textbooks that concisely summarize it all. Just takes time to get there.
@NeonSamurai72
@NeonSamurai72 2 года назад
One of the best yet. Very interesting. Particularly the part about societal ideals vs personal ideals.
@lucieciepka1031
@lucieciepka1031 Год назад
For women the end result is someone that is grown up, will not complete with the child for your attention, will assume his responsibilities. You get there by making someone (not very masculine) and somewhat dependent (on his mom), in to independent man that owns his mistakes and takes responsibility. Or you take someone masculine and independent and make him care about someone else then himself, make him dependable. Those are not easy tasks. Non is easier then the other. Some men grow up in healthy families and are situated close to the gold middle, some work on themselves, by themselves, by aspirating to be better, others meet a woman that pushes them to get to the middle.
@iRRichiee
@iRRichiee 2 года назад
The issue when it comes to wanting normal guys vs dominant guys is women cannot detach reality frrom their fantasies.... Men obviously want porn stars..with amazing bodies...but we can more easily dispose of these ideals and preferences in the real world. Sure women should have standards as should men...but its important to be realistic...
@lordofgingers
@lordofgingers 2 года назад
I would argue we have no choice. Most women don’t want most men. But most men want most women. That gap in desire in my opinion plays a major role in this difference you are highlighting
@cd0130
@cd0130 2 года назад
I think this is an incredibly well stated idea. church pastors want to shame dudes for porn, but they never shame women directly for social media use.
@jonathonshaw6688
@jonathonshaw6688 2 года назад
Love your facial expression and the brief moment to collect yourself after you say, "Are you dating someone that's six inches shorter than you?" - I feel like I can see your inner Chris going, "really man, six inches? ... for fucks sake.. alright, we said it, we're committed now, push on" - probably all in my head, but it made me chuckle. :)
@theimaginarium
@theimaginarium 2 месяца назад
I remember when Dune 1 came out there were all kinds of articles about how Timothée Chalamet was "redefining masculinity", etc., etc, and he is well known for leaning into his more androgynous look. I wonder if those article writers feel the same way after watching Dune 2....🤣
@jonahtwhale1779
@jonahtwhale1779 2 года назад
Feel degraded and aroused are not mutually exclusive, especially in women!
@dk1828
@dk1828 7 месяцев назад
Question at 21:10 is pretty obvious to me… why do we almost always say the book was way better than the movie!? It’s because there is a build-up, really becoming emotionally involved in the narrative within a book than what you’re able to experience in a 90 minute movie.
@Steve-yz9uo
@Steve-yz9uo 11 месяцев назад
Great podcast. Although I was having trouble concentrating on the words.
@theperfectbeing
@theperfectbeing 2 года назад
This was a hilariously entertaining talk given the intellectual nature of the topic. I think that despite the large amount of research people like Catherine have done regarding female sexuality, they're still coming at it from a sense of societal propriety, such as stating that women are drawn to men who are willing to be rough with them and essentially rationalizing why that would be. Truth of the matter is we are essentially intelligent hairless apes and 95% of our evolutionary time frame for our instincts happened in prehistory where murder, rape and constant threats of violence were the norm. Conquering nations and enslaving their women to force the next generation as a expedited rate. Rape happens to be one of women's top sexual fantasies and when you look into the sexual research regarding the darker aspects of our sexuality, you'll come to find that female rape victims actually have orgasms nearly twice as often as consensual heterosexual pairings. It's one of the most twisted facts about human sexual functions but given how female orgasms and oxytocin production functions for pair bonding, then you realize it's function for bonding with the new tribe/army that has captured yours. Women who refused to coalesce over time to their new rulers wouldn't last very long and neither would their children.
@toserveman9317
@toserveman9317 2 года назад
Heinous stuff. ...So let's ignore it! An age o reason in our time...
@toserveman9317
@toserveman9317 2 года назад
Heinous stuff. ...So let's ignore it! An Age o Reason in our time... ...... You posted the proximal; let's explore the distal... ..... Human females like rough, or overwhelming, sex because mammals are tournament "sex selection" [incomplete term brought to you by the girl-dad "mutton-chops" [tm] near you, that the masses interpret as 'freewill,' with help from their friendly neighborhood social engineer] -- only the roughest males win the fights vs other males and therefore only the roughest are available for ...the-hermaphrodite-regulatory-feature-expressed-as-"female"-that-generation... reproduction. Females in general like the male orgasm because, again that is the way the "female" (stunted/attacked hermaphrodite) breeds. Further upper mammals are "obligate dimorphic" (as are upper birds and insects and some fish):" Even if the female is not encountered, interdicted, "entangled," in this way, she will /can NOT mature into a male [eggs disaggregate into sperm factories as hermaphro matures] nor breed. ... Recent porn has allowed the female human to key into that aspect of her libido -- "yeah that's it -- goal" /sex hormone /swoon inducing. But the world is juvenile and insane now -- because of duhmerica -- so you may thus ignore me accordingly ..."We is all up and choosing to `adapt to be equal" -- "I love the sciencing".
@evanobrien8662
@evanobrien8662 2 года назад
citation needed bruh
@toserveman9317
@toserveman9317 2 года назад
@@evanobrien8662 All of mammal nature. If the credentialed classes don't agree, they are out of order. "Why" should be concerning to the intellectually honest.
@aks1993kumar
@aks1993kumar 2 года назад
@@evanobrien8662 Learn to read. No woke sociologist will do this kind of ‘research’.
@Moanapour2991
@Moanapour2991 2 года назад
Loved it! As always great great content
@LP-dc7fh
@LP-dc7fh 2 года назад
I love rough sex with my husband because he is a kind and gentle man. I know he won’t go too far, but I love watching him come close. I trust him. If I was with someone I don’t completely trust, I would not want rough sex.
@markcavandish1295
@markcavandish1295 2 года назад
well said!
@AlteraLin
@AlteraLin 2 года назад
This was a fun one.
@lukejonte8379
@lukejonte8379 2 года назад
Oh please, who cares "what women want" anymore. The most privileged group in human history who complain the most.
@styx1272
@styx1272 16 дней назад
Reading about sex is more like gossiping , social status imagination is more easily sculptured . Watching sex is more like hunting , dominating , eating. So different areas of the brain desire stimulation.
@anthonydowney6069
@anthonydowney6069 2 года назад
Great guest with a sense of humour and very little of the residual biases that some female contributors have had. But an aspect of the dating scene that is not addressed (not surprisingly)is that of race. Most Western countries have skewed sex/gender ratios in the relevant age groups because of immigration of mostly males from Asian and African countries. This coupled with the higher desire for White women from the general male population globally whether because of their higher 'looks 'standard or their higher levels of promiscuity. Also they are free from any male cultural, religious or familial control. White women in the relevant age category make up less than 10%of the female population globally and are thus empowered by that stat alone as well as the social status and high education achievements nationally. This is the starting point for the spread of the attitudes that all females now have.
@dahliaherrod4301
@dahliaherrod4301 Год назад
I was wondering why that was never discussed, especially with the talk about porn preferences. Porn is historically segregated and kinda racist. I would love to get into the nuances of the racial aspect of porn
@ultraderek
@ultraderek 2 года назад
Raw and inside is my motto.
@njkf
@njkf Год назад
charming and interesting lady!
@lcbrisk1837
@lcbrisk1837 7 месяцев назад
Sexual indulgence is a rabbit hole of infinite proportions. Interesting topics indeed.
@mgbm8335
@mgbm8335 2 года назад
Is this why Marriage fell apart? Edit: the benefits of this video is I can kinda see the perspective of some women.
@agathachris9722
@agathachris9722 2 года назад
No. Not at all. A combination of many factors I believe.
@vanessac1965
@vanessac1965 Год назад
Rough sex is going to get the impregnation done faster than gentle. It's more competitive and efficient. It's also a display of fitness and dominance. That's why it's more likely when there's jealousy or separation involved.
@pera.j.andersson
@pera.j.andersson Год назад
Thanks. I've read related things on the reason for "female copulatory vocalisation", and the reason why stress can enhance male arousal but decrease female arousal.
@laura44135
@laura44135 9 месяцев назад
Great episode! Thank you. 😊
@timmothyburke
@timmothyburke 2 года назад
I read in a very old oxford history textbook that Viking men were much more feminine looking and Viking women much more masculine.
@honeysimon838
@honeysimon838 2 года назад
They want alpha seed and beta need. Women say one thing but do another.
@ibizawavey8630
@ibizawavey8630 2 года назад
if you think you're beta, you are beta. You could as easily walk into your nearest BJJ gym and be a changed human being in every imaginable way in less than 10 classes but you choose to be a spectator in your OWN life. Why? I just don't get it.
@honeysimon838
@honeysimon838 2 года назад
@@ibizawavey8630 because 50% of the time you’ll be divorced and have you and your children’s lives destroyed. 10-15% of the time the kids aren’t yours. Unless the laws change you’re better off being single. Enough emotions let’s talk facts.
@NoName-wi8xz
@NoName-wi8xz 2 года назад
@@ibizawavey8630 I did bjj for 3.5 years and nothing was really changed in my life. Yeah some details, but nothing really life changing
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK 2 года назад
@@ibizawavey8630 blah blah blah
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK 2 года назад
@@JesusChrist2000BC Yep. no matter how much you train a sloth, you won't turn it into a mountain gorrilla..
@gabay123vip
@gabay123vip 2 года назад
51:54 Its Chuck Rhoades from "Billions" not "Suits"
@jonathanfarley2023
@jonathanfarley2023 Год назад
Nice view.
@robertpemberton3952
@robertpemberton3952 6 месяцев назад
29:08 We saw that
@rossshiell2670
@rossshiell2670 2 года назад
Rough sex - isn't it simply tapping into male sexual dominance in a safe, controlled environment, supported by mutual trust?
@rossshiell2670
@rossshiell2670 2 года назад
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 I do respect an amusingly provocative username.
@johndogwater
@johndogwater Месяц назад
I LOVE tall women, I want them to be my height or a bit taller, don't know why but I LOVE them.
@MrMultiAfrican
@MrMultiAfrican 2 года назад
I flippen knew I'd seen your pretty face somewhere Chris 😄🙌🏼
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 2 года назад
"dad or chad?" they want Cat...
@rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr1
@rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr1 8 месяцев назад
How is the answer not obvious? Internal ejaculation is sacred because sex is for procreation. Facials are degrading (for all involved) because it's analogous to bulimia.
@megja1812
@megja1812 2 года назад
Women also watch true crime to find out who too be wary of.
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields Год назад
A lot of random ideas without much science behind them. But the part about the gladiator frogs was quite interesting.
@jaythenihilist4689
@jaythenihilist4689 2 года назад
Maybe the nice guy in me is just too ingrained. I have no problem doing most things with women I'm just hooking up with, and have no emotional attachment to. But I can't bring myself to do anything that I see as degrading to a woman that I actually care about. Even if she asks me to.
@CONEHEADDK
@CONEHEADDK 2 года назад
Cuz you want "the Madonna" as the mother of your kids, not the "Cardi Bea"...
@crosselsmith776
@crosselsmith776 2 года назад
That's a good thing. I have this strong desire to do extremely dark degrading stuff. And I know very well if I act upon those desires things will get worse for me in the long run. Sexual Degeneracy destroy both men and woman's life.
@megamanx766
@megamanx766 Год назад
Kumshot, the UFC fighter.
@astroNexx
@astroNexx 8 месяцев назад
rough sex is actually pretty simple to understand. it's about power. about really FEELING that power, both as feeling physically powerful, demonstrating it and then the other side feels that demonstrated power, but then also about phsychologically about doing whatever your primal being wants, to overpower and submit, to be in control and to lose control. if all of the above is done with somebody who one feels safe with, who they trust, then it's incredibly exciting, because power itself is incredibly exciting
@peke1822
@peke1822 5 месяцев назад
Exactly my thoughts, I read that some women said that it takes the responsibility off of them and that way they don't feel guilty about the act, or that it is about being degrated, but I think not all women feel guilty or maybe they don't want to admit that they just simply feel excited about the strength of a man
@puckloki873
@puckloki873 Год назад
It would have been interesting to not only ask undergrads, bit older folk. Young kids don't know what they are doing. And they are naive. The experience ages over time....like a wine. Of course I was always saavy.
@silent0141
@silent0141 2 года назад
The way of life is similar to the way of women. If you understand any one of them successfully, you naturally get huge insights in the other one too. If you can be successful in a relationship with a women you will be most likely sucessful in life too. Note: Conscious efforts always bring more better results.
@RodneysPublishing
@RodneysPublishing 11 месяцев назад
Men don't watch porn as much as we're Told to. Honestly honestly porn is boring. Please stop saying that it sounds good
@rufusblasfemus3018
@rufusblasfemus3018 Год назад
Isn,t reading not also visual?
@michaelfern4079
@michaelfern4079 Год назад
It’s a strange one isn’t it? If you read about a bear in the woods, don’t they picture a bear in the woods? The advantage about reading is that it gives you an insight into the psychology of the characters involved. You get the descriptions of smells and sounds etc which aren’t included in images or movies.
@taggmanibanez
@taggmanibanez Месяц назад
Pornography is about degrading lonely men, not degrading women.
@kstepk5003
@kstepk5003 2 года назад
Goodness those book covers were nice… 😊
@Bjorn_R
@Bjorn_R 2 года назад
Love the thumbnail!
@buddahmaster
@buddahmaster 2 года назад
I don't know personlly I find jizzing all over someone's face that I love gross and weird.
@johndogwater
@johndogwater Месяц назад
Alright, fuck it, I'm going to google these book covers, he's mentioned them so many times. The real thing can't be as disturbing as the images in my head, they can't be...
@sdrc92126
@sdrc92126 2 года назад
Psychopathic liars saved you an hour
@ivnrik441
@ivnrik441 2 года назад
A bit of a extreme way of putting it... Listening different perspectives could be really useful for you, even if you don't agree with them 👍
@squidikka
@squidikka 2 года назад
@@ivnrik441 I watched the entire interview. Like you said, extreme way of putting it, but it's a pretty accurate summation.
@harry-eto
@harry-eto Год назад
15:25 onwards is quite funny "We didn't have them come into the lab..."
@frozen1762
@frozen1762 Год назад
Unpleasant truth no one wants to talk about is that women don't know what they want because they have no preferences other than to please. It used to be a man in a patriarchal society that was imprinting his desires and wants on a woman, and they would react satisfying those wants, now role of a man is taken over by a state/society and they tell woman what they "want". It's like an actor's opinion on social issues lel
@michaelfern4079
@michaelfern4079 Год назад
Great observation. Tell feminists and film it. I’ll subscribe in a second to see that hahs
@frozen1762
@frozen1762 Год назад
@@michaelfern4079 I don't talk to lunatics why should I do that.
@michaelfern4079
@michaelfern4079 Год назад
@@frozen1762 smart man. I was just being selfish.
@christophernash8166
@christophernash8166 2 года назад
I'm a father of three and there's a small group of women attracted to fathers. Most aren't though.
@AmeliaBodilia
@AmeliaBodilia Год назад
Beware! Those are mate poachers. lol
@hjsimpson
@hjsimpson 2 года назад
It's really not hard to understand why using sexual organs to their proper end is not degrading or disgusting. It doesn't require a study.
@cnote3598
@cnote3598 2 года назад
Facial isn't a " proper end "
@rocqitmon
@rocqitmon Год назад
"proper" is a judgement call - how about "typical"?
@aksjhdbaksjhdbNotASpam
@aksjhdbaksjhdbNotASpam 2 года назад
Is this a reupload. Somehow feels like I've seen this one before
@markdaoust4598
@markdaoust4598 Год назад
58:64 - difficult to find similarities between a pop star and a dictator. Power. Women want powerful men, and they want the men other women want.
@paulwilson7622
@paulwilson7622 2 года назад
"women aren't dating younger men". They might have a quick leg over with them but they want stability safety & resources for a 'relationship'.
@bigimportantman1544
@bigimportantman1544 2 года назад
Humans have evolved for women to mate with the most masculine men. They also seek good provider males… but that’s less important than masculine genetics & doesn’t necessarily have to be the same person.
@irenemissg5160
@irenemissg5160 2 года назад
The problem is that it gets very stereotypical when it comes to the difference between men and women. Men watch porn .. women read erotica.. Also in the therms of what men and women sexually prefer. I think it is much more nuanced and we should have a much more nuanced debate around the topic.
@irenemissg5160
@irenemissg5160 2 года назад
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 it was just an example of stereotypical generalisation 😅.
@Sldoficn
@Sldoficn 2 года назад
According to me dads are chads! LOL They will do anything it takes to protect their children. That's really what the Chad thing is about, it's the best to protect the kids. The strongest, most aggressive is more likely to have the ability to keep us safe. So primal and information we NEED to know about ourselves in order to navigate life.
@hermitpermit2553
@hermitpermit2553 2 года назад
I concur. In a modern society where men dont demonstrate their survival/dominant ability, chad can be is very superficial. Chads dont necessairily make dads... Or good loyal protectors. For a chad to make a good dad and a loyal protective partner/dad.. he needs to be at peace with himself and his masculinity.. Whether he is the most alpha in the room or not. Or atleast at terms with that being the goal.
@Sldoficn
@Sldoficn 2 года назад
@@hermitpermit2553 Yes! It's really refreshing to see this kind of content and men and some women rising to the occasion, gives me more hope for the future!
@faismasterx
@faismasterx 2 года назад
tl;dw: Chad.
@AmeliaBodilia
@AmeliaBodilia Год назад
We are individuals with individual tastes and disgusts. I don’t fancy a man in a dress, but a man in a kilt is a turn on. Isn’t that why we date before even thinking about pair bonding?
@heretic124
@heretic124 2 года назад
I remember hanging out with one girl that was extremely aggressive. I played it cool and returned everything and then some. I think it was her form of flirting/testing me and that frog behavior you mentioned and that women actually do it as shit test reminded me of it. What a night... I wasn't into her but if I was I can tell that sex would be crazy. She was Russian, lol. Talk about stereotypes. She left me bleeding and scratched all over.
@gizzowd7497
@gizzowd7497 Год назад
haha glad you had a great time. our women are great
@ldevon2318
@ldevon2318 2 года назад
Wow - I’m so glad she mentioned fan-fiction. It’s so common for women and rarely spoken about. I believe fanfic websites are womens pornhub. Very interesting.
@raptortown
@raptortown 2 года назад
I believe women love fantasy and mystery. Part of why if you ever ask a women what kind of shows/movies they watch, it a lot of mystery type.
@oausncacaonausnsasavasvnsuemau
@oausncacaonausnsasavasvnsuemau 4 месяца назад
Most males look good in comics, most males look bad in porn.
@martinlastname8548
@martinlastname8548 2 года назад
Chapter one: Why People Enjoy Facial Deposits. (I see Chris is a man of science)
@GJones247
@GJones247 2 года назад
Talking about India's breastfeeding addiction, while looking at the evolutionary psych speaker professionally is very hard. Well done Chris lol
@Jhon_wick03
@Jhon_wick03 2 года назад
What does she say
@AlwaysPeacefulMaDeuce
@AlwaysPeacefulMaDeuce 2 года назад
Haha. I get it. Very male of you.
@cosmicmuffet1053
@cosmicmuffet1053 2 года назад
MAAM PLEASE TILT YOUR CAMERA UP. I CANNOT HEAR YOU.
@GetUnlabeled
@GetUnlabeled 2 года назад
@@cosmicmuffet1053 that's on you not her, listen don't look if you must. Don't start saying something like that with "ma'am" , the insincerity is oozing. I'm not saying don't look, that would be dumb, I'm simply SUGGESTING that you keep your sexual arousal confined to your personal space.
@outlander234
@outlander234 2 года назад
@@GetUnlabeled She is putting it out there. She is inviting arousal. How can you deny it?
@blainn7788
@blainn7788 2 года назад
'softer, gently, kinder view of guys...' not only in novels that idea didn't work. my entire generation was demasculated by feminist influences and it made no one happy. the men or the women.
@namuhtsuj4025
@namuhtsuj4025 2 года назад
Was emasculated? Men are still being emasculated. Testosterone levels are at record lows. “Toxic masculinity” has young boys being prevented from engaging in rough and tumble play. Men and women need one another. Men need to be men and women need to be women. We don’t need to water one or the other down to suit a cultural agenda.
@jackburtonstwin
@jackburtonstwin Год назад
It is my suspicion that for many women the appeal of mock "rough sex" is that feeling that they are rendered powerless and not culpable for what is happening. As such they can engage in their more extreme or bizarre sexual desires while maintaining, at a psychological level, an element of plausible deniability for initiating or endorsing those desires.
@3756hans
@3756hans 5 месяцев назад
That's exactly correct . I make her do the things she's too ashamed to ask for. Sine she has "no choice" it absolves her of responsibility
@etiennetaylor
@etiennetaylor 17 дней назад
Spot on.
@JrnMnd08
@JrnMnd08 2 года назад
They want a Chad Dad. Why? Because everyone wants their cake and eat it, too.
@wyleecoyotee4252
@wyleecoyotee4252 2 года назад
No. The 'dad' part is cringe and absolutely disgusting
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