Thanks for posting this - directed by my father Bill Bain, never seen it until now. I know he had a lot of grief making it as he was hospitalized with acute appendicitis during post-production and a lot of the editing was done without him.
Sam> Hey, sorry about your dad. Wow, he must have been trying to make a statement about what declining moral values & the instillation of compassion into our children was producing> uh, less than humane body-suits portraying themselves as if human yet devoid of humanity characteristics. Must have hurt him that he couldn't finalize the editing himself. Peace & love & blessings & wisdom I pray to you.
Declining moral values? I suspect there have always been sociopathic relatives eager to kill for an inheritance. Granddma could smell it on the girl, couldn't see it in her grandson.
Sorry about you Dad Sam,i bookmarked this film a few years ago & never watched until 2day (October 21,2018) wow sooo many years after it was filmed. I was in the 10th grade in 1971 & thouse were years that i like to remember The Music The Movies The Clothes,Etc. You yourself never seen it until years later so that is proof that your Dads legacy (his work on this film) is still being seen and enjoyed 4 decades later. God bless,DEAN MARTELL (Pgh,PA.)
What a seriously-psychopathic couple so chillingly portrayed ! Makes me more afraid to get older just viewing this excellent study in personality-disorder.
Thanks for uploading this!!! I remember reading the review in the 70's in Cinefantastique magazine, but never got to see the film and it never even got released on VHS. Good little thriller. And of course, Paul Nicholas ended up playing the abusive Cousin Kevin in the film version of "Tommy" a few years later.
As far as I can tell this is the uncut version.I have another copy which i'm sure is shorter and (I'm told) was the one shown on American t.v....it has that kind of U.S. soft focus quality to it and some obvious cuts.
Hi Dennie. It's very different from their usual close harmony soft rock style, but this is by a group called 'Whistler', who released one album in the UK in 1970. You can hear a couple of tracks from their album here: /watch?v=sOJwF3fk5gY
lets mention the elephant in the room , all my life I have been seeing in credits art director tony Curtis , in a lot of these films , is it who I think it is ?
Thank you, so obvious I thought. Lol, I searched for this comment, I knew I wasn't the only one who thought that. Poor Gran didn't say anything about marrying the girl under _any_ name, just her current one. Perhaps we were supposed to assume this was the case tho, because those corrupt ass hellions would've jumped on that solution right away I would think.
There are lots of us! I like breaking up viewing of the all pre-masticated shiny pap on Netflix, Apple TV etc with some occasional more challenging material from the past. The movies don't have to be masterpieces, very often they are not, but they still can have a power of their own, or a few good scenes, or an interesting setting. They are palate cleansing somehow, and you can always go back to join the captive millions streaming the latest "hit show" when you want to.
Although no supernatural horror in this Film, it kept in line with Amicus's Vengence from beyond the grave theme. Darkly moralistic amidst a realistic setting, throughout, Tears for the Grandmother, but in spite of the couple coming across as cruel and heartless, it was plain to see that the root of their Evil came from their love of material wealth, thus , I pitied, rather than hated them . Was sad to read that it was Vanessa's last film and that she passed away 3 years ago, Truly a talented and versatile Actress.
It may only be a film but its subject matter is disturbing and still rings true to this day with people preying on the elderly and vulnerable with complete disregard for human dignity. Makes my blood boil. 😞
When Vanessa goes into the house and says to Paul 'how much is this worth?', he says £8.-10,000. My curiosity looked it up in 2017 and a five bedroomed house in this street is on sale for £2,500,000. Forty five years and look at the price hike. Same location not much difference in the house, so WHO says it is worth two million? Joke.
Love the distinction of British horror. Italian, American, Spanish, French or German, Mexican or Czech, each has a 'style' all their own. British and Italian- ❤ Decades are also different.
Absolutely fantastic movie !! I watched because Vanessa Howard stars in the movie , and I'm absolutely delighted I did !!! I'm off to watch Mummsy nanny sonny and girl now
Can't believe how disturbing this film is! Mona's performance is heartbreaking. She had me in floods of tears. There isn't anything remotely likeable about that loathesome couple! Very chilling indeed.
I've just received info that Paul Nicholas himself has watched 'What Became of Jack and Jill' for the first time, on this channel, having never seen the completed film before. In case you're reading this Paul, I'd like to say that I think your performance in this film was terrific - and I'm sure many others will agree with me.
This is how lots of young millennials talk now, they seem to think older people are selfish and should just hand over anything they have to them. When they get older they are literally going to fall apart, they won’t even be able to cope.
Two years later were sinking in propagated division of every imaginable sort. I can't really blame the tv only the dummies who believe what it tells them.
The shopping precinct in Walton-on-Thames was also one of the locations used in the British biker/horror movie 'Psychomania' (1972) with Nicky Henson, George Sanders and Beryl Reid.
Ohhhh! What a revolting pair! I don't want to say too much, obviously, as I don't want to spoil things for other viewers....but.... oh! Suffocating is the atmosphere that surrounds this film.
I couldn't agree more. I often wonder if my fondness for films from this era is misguided nostalgia. However, my disappointment whenever I take a chance on watching something more modern invariably reassures me!
Vanessa Howard had a unique energy on screen. She is great in this. "'Ere, Johnnie Boy, even me charlies is in mourning" Captivating! Paul Nicholas is good too, playing a very unsympathetic character. He captures Johnnie's dimness and immaturity very nicely.
Cheers Simon, I'm glad you enjoyed the film. You might be interested to know I've just added some new stuff to Vanessa's facebook fan page. It's pretty much a one-stop shop for everything that is currently known about her life, even including items from her childhood years. facebook.com/VanessaHowardChartoff
holy crap that was a great movie.but it was so hard to get through the middle of it though.what they were doing was just heart breaking.hard to not think of your own mom or gram during that part.seeing the end made the movie whole.wow they just cant make movies like that anymore.i don't know how you found this movie but thanks for sharing.
I think my father had that shirt he wore in the beginning, or a similar one! These UK horror movies are fantastic, Thanks for sharing something I'd never find elsewhere.
@@danielx555 When I see pictures of myself at age 2 in bold plaids & flowers I wonder what on earth people were thinking, & then I look at the army green velour with blue background couch I'm sitting on! 🤣🤣🤣
I think this was adapted from a novel called "The Ruthless Ones" which I read years ago. Don't remember the author. The book was more sinister than this.
I thought It Was A Good Story, Well Told For Its Time, Hardly Seemed Like I Was Watching For 90 mins. IMDB Gave It A 6 Out Of 10 And I Agree, Ty For The Upload
I didn't know you couldn't get this on DVD I've only ever seen it on youtube, it definitely deserves a DVD release. A very chilling film, it shows it's age badly with the 70's music at the beginning lol, but the ending is still one of the most disturbing endings I've ever seen in a horror movie. A brilliant film with brilliant performances by all.
only in the civilized world in the other parts of it the elderly are treated with respect as they should be and cared for till their last breath that's what they deserve grandma did not get it but the young couple did just get exactly that what goes around comes around it was painful to watch this move regardless how good the acting was it was filled with evil spirits from beginning to the end just like our modern so called advanced society is the move portrait it well it gave a good feel to the horrific spiritual state the world is in the present days the angel's statue in the cemetery the guy was sitting under set the tone of the move right in the very first scene in a clever way
that's a good one ,i thought you were putting a spell on me! LOL! yes it's pretty hard to put a never ending sentence together without any breaking point
Thanks for the upload. In many modern films, characters walk away, smirking, and somehow, an anti-hero and related nonsense. The ending in this type of film, however, is as it should be! Truly, these were some soul-sick people!
Thank you for posting this movie. I had never heard of it but enjoyed it tremendously. It is very different from the usual blood / kill / horror fodder. I liked it! But then again I have always liked some quite obscure movies.
A real treat to see this rarely shown psychological horror thankfully shown in its original 4:3 aspect. It was satisfying to see their evil scheme did not go to plan! Obvious display at 1:14:16 of the ridiculous instructions actors are made to follow, evident in many movies - ‘always turn your head to face the camera no matter how unnatural it looks’.
Oh, yes!Fright was a brilliant film. Saw it when I was a kid. I wouldnt mind watching it again if it can be found. Also Blind Terror. I cant find that one on utube. Would be a great upload.
Perhaps the greatest geriatrixploitation movie ever. Perhaps the only film in that genre??? Many good things. 1. Mona Washbourne's performance 2. Great art direction, especially in conveying the oppressive nature of that gloomy house 3. Anticipates Beverley from Abigail's Party, Bret Easton Ellis, much else; amoral monsters created by consumerism 4. Fun fantasy sequences, especially the vapid dreams of fast cars (him) and lounging around in a big bed (her) all shot using all the cliches of advertising filming at the time (crash zooms, filters on the lens etc). And it makes you think too. Johnnie gets his values from somewhere and twinkly old gran, dear that she is, is arguably fairly materialistic, and controlling, in her own way too (with her pride in her "Walnut Furniture" that you have to live up too)
Liked and Favorited, as well as subscribed. Wow, they were the best looking pair of sociopaths I have ever seen. I love me some Paul Nicholas, and the old lady - what a pest. Love the slogan "Out With The Oldies!" that cracked me up.
I don't like to discount young people's fears of nuclear war and/or ecological destruction but this film does demonstrate the flaws in believing life is a zero sum game. We see that here in the U.S. - it's why the 1% are so fearful of anyone other than the wealthy having anything. There's more than enough for everyone is the world, despite what some political ideologies would have everyone believe. Now, after dispensing that serious commentary, I would like to say that the acting in this film is phenomenal. Johnny and Jill are despicable but gorgeous to look at. Poor Granny! Digging the music as well.
Paul Nicholas became quite a big star on British television in a comedy series called just good friends. Strangely enough in some ways the character he plays in this and the one he played in just good friend do not seem to be that far removed. I have not checked but you can probably see episodes on you tube
two that may be of interest to you from that period are Quatermass and the devil rides out. I don't know if Demelza is your pseudonym or not but that was a name of a character from Poldark a series that was very popular in the seventies
i almost forgot one of my favourites over the last twenty years is a two part series called longitude. Incidentally it was written by a American woman. It is on you tube
Thank you for letting me know that these's film's have been posted much appreciated !!! i have a long film's want's list of film's i cannot find ,you have been most helpful again thank you
Thanks for this upload, Amofonyx - wonderful stuff! I hope your dream of seeing this wonderful film get a cleaned-up official release happens. This ripe for a BFI Flipside DVD/Blu-ray! Looking forward to going through the other things on your channel, especially the full movies...
When I saw the title I thought it was going to be a corny light comedy. .It was excellent - a real demo for what you can do with a small budget These films are a kind of time travel to me , I am 64 , Fortunately I have no legacy to leave !! Well done Amfonyx
to true of today if the governments could get away with it at 31.37 shot against the wall for being a burden on the state its frightening now 12oct 2015 what's happening in the world
Talking to you from 2021. Don't come to the future it's worse than you could imagine as the world passes towards the Broad Nation (nwo as said by Nostrodamus
well; what became of them??? I liked the film,... but I guess the title say's it all in regards to the ending. I could totally identify w/ jill, when it set in that he was w/ another girl, she went into frenzy~ no scheme, no amount of $$$, in the world would set me to allow my l♡ve to be tampered with. don't touch him,... complete madness,... chaos.
This is of the same era of another British film in my Hammer horror box-set, which is also a tense and disturbing psychological thriller; it's called 'Straight on Till Morning', which I also found difficult to watch.
I emailed Indicator - Powerhouse Films about possibly getting WHAT BECAME OF JACK AND JILL a proper blu ray release .. I would urge anyone interested to do the same .. I received a very nice response: "Many thanks for your e mail and heads up on “What Became of Jack and Jill”, I don’t remember ever seeing the film, but it does look right up our street. I’ve not seen it on any of the lists we receive from various producers etc, but we will keep an eye out for it now... Many thanks for the nice words about Powerhouse Films, it’s much appreciated 😊Kind regards John Morrissey"
That's marvellous Lucasvonbraun, thanks for doing that. I would like nothing more than to see something come of your suggestion - it's long overdue, after all!
Thanks for putting this film on You Tube. However there is another one that I've been searching for that I cannot find in its entirety. If you would be able to direct me to it (or post it yourself) I would appreciate it. The title of the movie is "Fright" and it stars another British beauty from the 70s named Susan George. Would you happen to have this one available in its entirety?
I don't think Fright has been posted anywhere to watch and I've not seen a copy. I think it is out though on a hard to find DVD, so might be worth checking Amazon first. Good luck with your search!
thanks Amfonyx, i see this film in the middle 70s in Santiago de Chile, when i was a little boy (8 or 9 years old), and i never forgive. in this time in the chilean tv i watch very cult films (Melody, Walkabout, Silent Running, the mind of Mr. Soames, the Savage Messiah, etc...) .
Although the popular culture was more vibrant & interesting in the 60's/70's much of London was such a bleak shit hole! I miss the capri's & mantas though...
Thanks for your perceptive comment. Did you notice how the film at 1:30:45 contains an echo of what is happening at 51:00 ? A very subtle, spooky touch by the screenwriter, Roger Marshall.
Yes, I know what you mean about the music, it's grown on me to the extent I hum it to myself now while walking down the street! The music that plays when they're in the car later on is great also. And a topless scene, now that is interesting. I thought this was the uncut version but if not then even more reason to have a proper release of this film on DVD.
this is what You Tube is all about . British films have their own style and grace . I never would have seen or even known about this Giggle / Cringe film .
Possibly not too wise of Nicholas to make a film like this so soon after his appearance on Blind Terror (he says he was called "Boots" on set by fellow cast etc.,) but maybe most roles on offer in the early 1970's were for not so nice characters? Have heard some stories that acting roles at this time were very often of this genre and Nicholas has been quoted as stating they were important experience wise at the time.
+virgorouge that's neat; you must have bi~sexual tendencies,... good for you!!! to each his own,... me, I was born 100%~ heterosexual. a man ~ "w♡w" ~ i.just.l♡ve them. they've actually g♡t m♡re to ♡ffer in the bedroom,... ~*sigh*~
Why, thank you Kenji - you are very kind! I will shortly be pitching the idea of releasing both this and the Hayley Mills film 'Deadly Strangers' around the DVD distributors now we've got a fair few views. To make up for their neglect both films deserve a blu-ray release at the very least. We live in hope!
You know, I've always been puzzled by the tiny kitchens of the British & wondered how they could have possibly been good cooks or even very healthy having to store & prepare meals in such tiny accomodations. In USA the smaller kitchen space, very litle counter top space, lil shallow sinks even & small, inadequate cabinets did begin to occur & we hate it!
I hate small kitchens too, but space is not usually an option. Flats in cities have limited space. If you see some films with county houses, they have big kitchens with loads of cupboards and worktops. Have you seen 'Midsomer Murders?' It is set in rural England and features villages with cottages and rivers. They have large kitchens. The stories are silly but it is nice scenery.
I've started to entertain the idea that the opening heavy rock theme to 'Jack and Jill' is not by the obscure group 'Whistler' at all, as they sound nothing like this. The vocalist here sounds a dead ringer for John DuCann, so I'm wondering if this may actually be an uncredited Atomic Rooster performance. The rest of the playing is very much in their style at this time (check out the 'Death Walks Behind You' album) and it wouldn't be the first time a group has performed uncredited due to contractual difficulties. Hmm, I'd love to know the truth of what's happening here...
