I’m two years into my philosophy undergrad and not sure what I want to do but philosophy has also helped me cope with that uncertainty that comes with any “career”
Plenty of people don't know, even for a long time after they leave uni. Some of the happiest and most successful examples I know spent a long time working it out, or changing careers in their 30s. Good luck!
This gave me hope, motivation, and some support for my choice in pursuing this degree. I wish someone told me about this even just 6 years ago. If someone told me about philosophy in high school??? Oof, I’d be making big bucks doing what I enjoy. Thank you!! I appreciate this.
Off the charts in which direction?!? A job as an academic philosopher usually needs (as a minimum) a PhD and several publications in recognised philosophy journals.
What are the government jobs other than teaching that one can apply for after doing Masters in Philosophy? I am interested in philosophy for thought and to improve my perspective also I never took such subject in my previous academic, and my writing skills are good in english literature so I am confused whether to take english or for philosophy masters please give your Views help me solve this confusion
I graduated with a double major in philosophy and pre law and it’s been hard trying to find a job, but the skills that I have gained during my college career helped me out tremendously!
Continental history of philosophy its a program you need to line up by selecting the proper historical courses..that bridges with this weird psychology major then read being and time? Or those cheap ones philosophy of art etc... these Is making it look like political science or English which can be gained in English...... the real philosophy is history of philosophy. And it's completely borderline you can't study hellenism but this instead etc double edge course curriculum... so this guy can be an English teacher. There's no arguing it's really intense and your studying critical historical texts that are isolated at the academic library and you need a ID card from the school to even buy them and have to enroll in the course
What do you think of earning a philosophy degree not because you need it for your career, but because you want to become informed about different philosophical issues and to get feedback from others about your ideas?
That’s the best reason for doing a philosophy degree! I think it’s first and foremost of intrinsic value, for the reasons you say. But it’s also useful for developing your skills & employability.
Is it just me or does school make everything boring. Just being honest. In school philosophy is turned into reading textbooks for hours everyday and doing research projects. Do people ever even lie down and think anymore. I also feel like it makes you come up wi ru ideas and extract ideas when you’re not really ready and have fully understood the topic yet. In THSI world everything seems so measured, A, or F, 100 or 50. Good or bad. But of course my opinion is unpopular and most people are snobs. I’m just wondering, do you understand what I’m trying to say? Speaking as a 16 year old. Everything is so spontaneous. No time for you to really ponder and think which is what philosophy is really about.
That's a pretty common feeling, actually. My sense is that A-level philosophy is quite rigid. Whereas at degree level, it's much more about what *you* think of a particular issue, and how you can back that view up with solid arguments. So philosophy at uni might suit you!
@@AtticPhilosophy thanks for replying. I saw some other videos saying you have to do tons of reading and essays. I like free thinking and less paper work.
You need to do lots of reading too. If you want to be a good thinker, you need lots of ideas, you need to appreciate different points of view, and you need to get good at expressing your views so that others can see what you mean. Good writers always read lots.
@@Ch9-7708 I used to say the same things when I was your age, but now that I'm 20 I feel the consequences of not doing "stupid repetitive homework". It's good for your discipline, it's good for making your mind think more systematically. If you think that stuff is stupid you MUST find something else to do and practice repeating on that, or years will go by and you'll have a lot of trouble with making order in your mind.
i have the best professor for intro to great philosophers, he's engaging, doesnt do powerpoint and just oldfashioned lecture, passionate and kind.. he's converted me and a friend into wanting to pursue a degree in it. it is important to have a great mentor,
i would like to study philosophy, but purely due to the fact that reading philosophy without accompanying lectures cracks my mind. While philosophy, I think, is good for acquiring argumentation and thinking skills, it shows way too many possibilities how one could think about things to make it a comfortable endeavor.
There's so much more to studying philosophy at uni than just reading philosophy (which anyone can do!) Discussing ideas with tutors & classmates is really important.
Thank you for this video , after watching this video I changed my decision , I think that Philosophy degree is not good for my future so I planned to change my stream but now I realised it had more advantages and it going to help me lot in my future 🥰
I am currently torn between philosophy, computer science, and physics. I love critical and creative thinking, solving math and calculus problems, philosophizing about the mysteries of the world, analyzing works of ancient philosophers like Socrates, playing and studying chess, and using logic. The only reason what's holding me from Philosophy is being able to find a job that pays well and for that reason, I am also debating over a career like computer science or physics. I haven't really took physics or computer science classes but I plan to in the future. I took Philosophy as a GE in my last college semester and I loved it. I also have completed both Calculus 1 and Calculus 2, and plan to take Calculus 3 in the future. What do you think I should major/minor in?
Personally, I think everyone should study what they love. That way, you develop as a person, not just as a money-making machine. If you're worried about employability, pick a uni which has a good track record with employers.
you should do CS since its the most practical of the bunch and it still has maths logic, and some stuff from philosophy and physics or atleast it is somewhat connected to those fields especially when it comes to the logic.
Mathematical logic. I say you should study the works of Wittgenstein, Bertrand Russell and Godel thus also the work of Immanuel Kant and his correspondence such as David Hume. Also Leibniz and Spinoza- just because that philosopher will give you great insight about the question of life and consciousness both in material and immaterial. For the philosophy of A.I. Never stop learning makes philosophers great- they literally never stopped questioning!
Good luck! Philosophy is a great degree to do prior to law school. I'm told some law firms prefer applicants who've studied something else first, or have wider experience than just studying law.
I’m a software engineer major but I think I’ll get so much out of a minor in philosophy specifically studying logic and knowledge. I don’t know what the field is but I know it’s there in the philosophy sub-Genres.
How about philosophy and psychology joint honours? Often, you can study both in the first year, and then switch to one, the other, or stay on both, depending on what you prefer.
Please go for philosophy. I’ve always wanted to do philosophy but decided on psychology because I thought it would be better for my future. Please don’t do the same. Philosophy is the most awesome study in the world in my humble opinion.
As a philosophy major myself, I would say that its up to you. Philosophy leans toward the abstracts and the hypotheticals concepts and not necessarily human mind related. Psychology is about pouring over concrete, empirical observation of how people behave, draw some conclusions about cause and effect on behavior, testing out your theory, rinse and repeat. I was more into math than science and psychology did not strike my fancy If you want a glimpse of philosophy, I have 2 books to recommend. 1 The Simpsons and Philosophy, the D'oh of Homer. 2 House and Philosophy, everybody lies
It's a great move if you want to study philosophy in more detail! Start by searching online for MA courses that don't require an undergrad in philosophy (sometimes they're called 'conversion courses'). You can always email the admissions tutor to ask whether they'll consider your qualifications.
I m doing philosophy degree after that i do b.ed degree... should i do master in philosophy or other masters degree for teaching line. And totally agree with your point while i doing my graduation i forget names of philosophers nd some tough terms of philosophy, bcz its hard to memorise. Bt somehow i got firstclass in my B.A programme...Thats why i m confuse for my better teaching profession wht should i do?
Hi, I guess for teaching at high school, you're unlikely to need MA-level philosophy. In the UK, a BA degree plus a teaching qualification is what most teachers have. But there's nothing to stop you doing a philosophy MA too. In fact, if that's what will make you happiest, do it!
@@AtticPhilosophythq. I am from india.. i find philosophy hard while i m doing it.. thats why after that i do my B.Ed . Now i need to do Masters.. nd u knw i m saying i find it little difficult but if i persue the same subject from my degree to Masters will it be benefacial.. in deep i can somehow manage like my degree programme ..Or i do masters in other Subjects ? The thing i m little confuse..
@@kasturi_vlogs6308. Teaching line in philosophy is good or bad depending on which state you are in, in India. If you are opting for other disciplines of Humanities then it's good too. For me, MA is beneficial since you will get an option too for UGC-JRF and UGC-LS for Assistant prof.
Philosophers of old specialised in a large, large number of things - most notable being maths, physics etc. New age philosophers just want to debate the meaning of life - this is the problem with modern day philosophy. A large majority of the students don’t have the academic capacity for it...
@@AtticPhilosophy Well not philosophy in itself as thats the field of study - but graduates from philosophy courses suffer from this when applying for jobs. Many universities don’t teach the required skills during the curriculum for philosophy. Really, if you look at the great philosophers they were geniuses and polymaths, not just ‘university educated’ debaters.
The stats you list are also highly debatable and in a lot of instances wrong or misleading. The fact the stats are said to come from the ETS with little information on where to get the base data - and then the graphs are designed by a professor of philosophy highlights the misleading nature of this video. Why mislead undergraduates (often young and impressionable) into false information? Study philosophy if you like it - fair enough. Thinking it’s going to make you more intelligent, employable or wealthy than a mathematics or engineering major is just dumb...
Philosophy degrees aren't trying to produce 1000s of professional philosophers (who would want that?) but rather, highly skilled analytical thinkers. In my experience, most philosophy graduates leave uni with a good set of skills.
@@AtticPhilosophy What skills? They don't teach trigonometry or calculus or complex numbers. So they don't really have to go through intense and rigorous hours practicing a lot of maths. Most of them just argue whether people are living in a matrix or not.
Yes, it’s a good choice. PPE (politics, philosophy, economics) is probably the most popular choice for civil service. Or you could look for joint honors: philosophy and economics or philosophy & politics.
Hey can you make a video about the colleges offering courses in Maters in Philosophy for a non-philosophy background?????????? PLEASE. I NEED TO SWITCH
The best source of info on this in the UK is through UCAS: www.ucas.com/postgraduate/choosing-postgraduate-course Look for 'conversion course' in philosophy (i.e. without a prior philosophy BA). Often, MA courses are open to graduates with a degree in 'philosophy or a related field' - and depending on your background, that can be quite flexible.
Hi! There's several options - are you thinking about degree choices, or before or after that? For undergrad degrees, you could do a joint honours degree: any of psychology, physics, maths go very well with philosophy. They usually have a 50-50 split between the two subjects. Some unis offer 'with' degrees, like physics with philosophy, which might be more like a 67-33 split. Degrees with a modular structure (most in the UK) allow you to take subsidiary modules. So, you can do a degree in (say) physics but take some philosophy modules as well. In my dept, you can take up to 1.3 modules per year outside philosophy, for example. So lots of options!
@@AtticPhilosophy Hi! I'm going to study for a bachelor's in biosciences in the UK this year and I really want to study philosophy in a way that could still upgrade my skills. However, the degree I applied for does not seem to include any philosophy modules nor is it offered as a joint honours. What do you suggest I do?
See if the degree allows subsidiary modules - many UK degree courses do. You might be able to take 1 or 2 in philosophy. If that's not possible, you can often sit in on philosophy modules (ie not for credits). If its not for credits, you might not get the option to get your work marked but you can still go to the lectures & maybe the seminars. Once you start your course, you can email the lecturer of the module you're interested in & ask, 'can I sit in?' I often have students from science sit in - sometimes just for a few lectures. Its basically zero cost to the lecturer or uni, and can broaden your knowledge hugely.
I am just full of depressed for being a philosophy student. Cause in all country haven’t same value in this subject. And in my country don’t have value for philosophy student. That's why i always get depressed when i think about my career. 😭😭
Hello! I have a Diploma of professionnal training (Two years) in Electromechanics in addition to some IT skills. and i just earn my graduation from Philosophy. How can i mix the two disciplines to find a goood Job? and thank you for the Video!
What you learn on a philosophy degree is primarily how to think clearly through difficult problems. So it’s useful for any kind of work where you have to come up with ideas & do problem solving.
@@AtticPhilosophy Thanks for the reply! While I'm interested in philosophy my concern is that if I study it formally in university it'll affect my job prospects in comparison to a degree in quant finance or econs...
Hi! To be a medical doctor, you’ll need a medical degree - usually 5 years at undergrad level. There’s also (in the UK) a 4-year graduate route, as in, if you already have an undergrad degree, you can convert to a medical degree. Most doctors take the undergrad medical degree, but that usually doesn’t allow you to study any subject outside medicine. Philosophy (and ethics in particular) is important for doctors to understand, since they’re dealing with life and death situations. That said, I don’t think taking a philosophy undergrad degree is necessary or even helpful career-wise for a doctor, and it would take much longer until you qualify as a doctor.
@@AtticPhilosophy from your POV, I have been searching lots of information about this. 1. most of them said Philosophy really helps a lot for their MCAT. What is your comment about this? 2. next, Philosophy is a major that unique to introduce if i have high GPA to enroll to a med school 3. I have an intention to take Phylosophy. But, does Phylosophy syllabus will be different in each country?
You certainly can. What’s more common is to to a conversion course (GDL in the UK). This is a postgrad course which gets you up to the same point in law as an LLB, ready for the professional qualification (LPC). Some LPC courses give you an LLB at the end for free. Many law firms like applicants who studied something other than law first - like philosophy. Philosophy is a great subject from which to move into law: debating, analytical reasoning, constructing tight logical arguments etc.
Typically, there's none. Some courses involve some basic logic, but although it can be technical, it's not maths (there's no numbers or algebra involved at the intro level). Most courses have more advanced options which allow you to pursue math-related bits of philosophy, e.g. advanced logic, philosophy of maths, but they're nearly always optional.
Sure! Studying philosophy, you develop good skills in debating & negotiation, as well as logical reasoning and seeing an issue from multiple points of view.
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@@aditichourasia8094 if you're still in school, consider minoring in philosophy and majoring in admin. Finanacially, a good move and probably less stressful since philosophy is hard degree to get
It's possible, there's Graduate Entry Medicine, which non-med UG students have taken & gone on to work as successful doctors (including one famous RU-vid doctor!)
It would be great if there were a degree which allowed you to do nothing. Unfortunately, philosophy isn't that degree. All of us philosophy graduates have to work in the jobs we got partly through doing a philosophy degree!
@@danielleejohnv.malonzo9677 probably because (assuming you're in the US) the US doesn't display actual capitalism rather its own or an "artificial" concept in the same fashion how no country has displayed actual communism, but that's just my thinking, maybe that guy is Capitalisms #1 fan lol
Anyone can be a philosopher, but the best route is to study it with someone who's used to teaching philosophy. That's one reason why studying at uni is a good option.
Please work on getting to the point. Couldn't finish the video after 30 seconds because you were just going on and on and there was nothing about philosophy degrees
Flipping burgers, cleaning toilets, trash collector! So the same things I do with my divinity PhD if you don't give up your integrity dignity, and pride!
@@AtticPhilosophy George Carlin: they call it the American dream because you've to be in sleep to believe it! Most options are not related to academic philosophy itself! Ok standing behind the counter, counting could be related to logic! and Pushing drugs, guns etc. are related to Ethic classes! The quote: results of the past don't give a guarantee for the future (if buying stocks!, you did know this quote) The same story they told me, starting college! Maybe you've got the pandemic and the financial-political climate crisis! The USS Gerald Ford is heading the Chinese sea for an attack warning! In the U. S gunshops are almost out of stock We got our own interesting times, Paraphrasing Slavoj Zizek!
Doing anything is no answers at all. I have philosophy degree and I can say he says nothing useful. Laws schools? Maybe, If I had more money and more time to study, but in reality, you just should study law to become law related person. He's so far from market evaluation. His assessment is worthless.
I am currently studying psychology and philosophy. You can’t really do much with a psychology major anyways. Most people go on to grad school and if you want to be a therapist you have to at least have a masters degree and put in lots of hours to be able to work at a clinic. I know licensed counselors who didn’t even major in psychology for their BA. The point being for most humanities and soft sciences require you to go on to get your masters no matter what in order to do the typical jobs associated with the studies.
@Mexican Bob Maybe it's true in the US but in a lot of places there's actually a lot of demand for psychologists and people studying the subject are very low in number so most people studying psychology get a job. You don't generally see them trying to do a master's degree to get a job. Seems like it's different in the US
So your saying your trying to teach the students to articulate, asses and then to explain a concept to others. Well every STEM course does that, and so, so much more. What does Philosophy actually bring to the table in a practical fashion for a student apart wasted time and debt? Its about time Philosophy is seen for what it really is a hobbycraft. Interesting as hell, but pretty useless as a standalone. No way warrents a Degree level. STEMS for degrees Philosophy for relaxation afterwards.
Absolutely wrong! I've been lecturing for 10 years, to math, science, engineering, arts & humanities students. Who do you think does best at my formal logic class? Philosophy students, then math, then other arts & sciences about level. Philosophy teaches skills you don't often get elsewhere.
For me personally, I can only more than agree with your findings. I first got my BA in philosophy ( honours ) with a minor in sociology. After I did an MA in philosophy at the University of Ghent ( great honours ). Five years after completing my studies I participated at a selection procedure, organised by Coopers & Lybrand, for top management positions at the government. Out of 78 candidates, all with different MA certificates, I was selected with 6 other people to fill the positions. During the evaluation after the tests it became clear that I was one of the strongest candidates in abstract thinking, and that of course is due to my philosophy training. So, I can only support your advice.
What about a philosophy minor? I have other interests as well, but I like philosophy, so I might go with a philosophy minor... Will that help me with all the skills too?
Tbh just about any philosophy degree will fit the bill. The kind of logic I teach here is all 2nd/3rd year material & optional. Most degrees have either zero compulsory logic, or a very light touch intro to logic in the 1st year. Many unis replaced intro to logic modules with informal reasoning modules, which is definitely not maths.
A 7 month mature philospophy graduate (36) with first degree from a London university where i live, and i had only one unsuccessful interview that it was related to sales, namely cold calling and pitching. I do feel that these is the only jobs you can potentially find and a lot of recruitment consultant. At the moment working as usual as a bartender and i dont see a way out having the specific degree.
This year, my philosophy graduates went into teaching, law, the civil service, MAs, & various grad schemes. There's no one route that works for everyone.
@@AtticPhilosophy well the truth of civil services fast stream or similar and graduate schemes are highly, almost insanely competitive. For instance the fast stream in civil Services has 20000 applicants and from those only 997 get the job. Having said that, I will for sure persist chasing a graduate or entry level job. I put a lot of effort in my degree.
Hello sir..i'm sri lanka.I am studying philosophy special degree in a government university. Can you tell me the job field I can apply for my philosophy degree? What are the jobs can I do abroad for this degree?????
Many jobs don't require a specific degree subject: they ask for a good degree from a good university, and for you to demonstrate the skills you've learned. On an application letter, you can talk about the skills you've learned, as described int he video. If you're studying right now, talk to your university's careers office for specific advice. Good luck!
