I originally had a whole segment in the video about Keeby but I removed it. In the manual of the game(English and Japanese) the Yellow Kirby is referred to as Yellow Kirby not Keeby. The reason people think the Yellow Kirby from Dream Course is Keeby is because in an official Super Smash 64 Website the yellow Kirby Costume has this to go along with it "Yellow body: for 2P (commonly known as Keeby: Kirby Dream Course)". So Sakurai probably had this nickname for Yellow Kirby and it was just some fun trivia on a smash site. Keeby Yellow is also used as a color in Kirby Dream Buffet and is the first time Keeby was every referenced inside one of the games. Source twitter.com/ThanksKirbyWiki/status/1561164268954914817
One other thing that's interesting to note, competitive games like Smash and other fighting games, most often use Blue and Red as player 1 and 2, contrasting colours. But in games like the Lego ones, where the players are cooperating, combinations like Blue and Green are used instead, which are analogous colours to each other. And then in party games with more than 2 people, it's almost always four colours evenly spread apart on the colour wheel. You rarely get combinations like, say, Blue, Cyan, Red, Orange in a four player game because they don't contrast enough and look more like two teams of two.
Sonic colors actually gave you (or at least player 2) the option to have a bunch of different colors depending on what button you pressed, like green, pink, black, etc.
I feel that games where you can change your color should still be counted, as long as there is a consistent default color assigned to the positions. I.e. age of empires 3 has colors to choose from, but they are still in an order, starting with blue/red.
If you ever do a third in this series, here's some games that have pre-set colours for Player 9. Minecraft Console Edition (Xbox One/PS4 version only), Super Slime Arena, and Chompy Chomp Chomp Party (Wii U version only).
@@harribo2323 As far as I can tell... 1. White 2. Green 3. Red 4. Blue 5. Magenta 6. Orange 7. Yellow 8. Cyan 9. Dark Blue 10. Light Green 11. Purple 12. Gold 13. Dark Red 14. Dark Green 15. Pink 16. Brown
I'm happy you actually decided to make a sequel. I think I was most surprised by the fact that 6 player games exist. Like 1,2,4, and 8 player games make sense since you just keep doubling, but 6 is rare, considering 3 player games are also rare. Maybe that's a future video idea, player counts on games lol.
For a computer software I made, I had to pick 4 colors that were easy to distinguish from each other and a white background. The colors I chose (with rgb values) were: Red (255, 0, 0), Blue (0, 0, 255), Green (0, 127, 0) and Magenta (255, 0, 255).
I'm glad you called Dragon Ball Z: The Legend by its official English title. Most people call it by the fan name of "Legends". *Budōkai* is pronounced _boo-DOH-kahy_ by the way. Basically, the same as you said it, but with emphasis on the _dō_ instead of _bu._ "Budō" means "martial arts". "Kai" means "tournament". *Tenka-ichi* is pronounced _TEN-ka EE-chee,_ literally meaning "Number One under Heaven". It's an incorrect reference to the Tenka-ichi Tournament (Tenka-ichi Budōkai) that takes place in the comic and shows. As you can see, they got it backward.
Thank you so much for getting even more data, I didn't expect this but it's greatly appreciated. I had a feeling Player 1 was more often Blue, and Player 2 was more often red throughout more games. If you ever look at even more games and make a sequel to this so we could get even more data I would be very happy. I've always liked when the console had a standardized player colors like Wii, and I'm glad you brought up that Playstation also does this
18:51 I feel like if things had gotten standardized in the 80s (when gaming was starting to get popular), they would've standardized players 1 and 2 but not anything else - because computing as a whole was fairly new, and so the imagination of where it would *go* was fairly limited in this regard (look at things like Star Trek. They have advanced computer systems, but all the computer games they play on the show are two-player). So when the N64 hit the market and we started getting 4 player games, players 3 and 4 would've been inconsistent (probably it'd be the same two colors just swapped order - like if the standard was Red/Blue, then we'd start to get Red/Blue/Green/Yellow and Red/Blue/Yellow/Green, with a few Red/Blue/Purple/Orange and Red/Blue/Pink/Cyan thrown in). And then companies would think "why do we have to hold to this standard at all?" and all hell would break loose in the Gamecube/PS2/Xbox era - some companies might end up with their own internal standards (such as the "Wii Colors" being standard across Nintendo) but no longer would there be an industry standard. I was originally thinking about maybe, pushing the standardization farther back, to originating with *board games* but I realized as I was typing this, that board games don't really have a "port order". The closest you get is a game like Sorry, where the colors are on the board in a specific position and then you go around the board a specific direction, but in those cases you could start the rotation anywhere on the board - it ends up like the Avatar Cycle where the order is consistent but where in the order you start is not. So I think the proper time for an industry standard player color order to have been introduced would be in the late 90s, shortly after the N64's release and when the PS2 is beginning to enter people's minds. We'd *just* gotten a doubling of player count, so people would likely have the foresight of "maybe this would happen again. Let's standardize all the way to eight" (I think they'd try to standardize as far as they could, but end up stopping at eight because like, twelve, is really as far as you can go before you have to start using colors that are close to other colors, and it's easier for a system intended for computers to stop on powers of two.)
I originally had a whole segment in the video about Keeby but I removed it. In the manual of the game(English and Japanese) the Yellow Kirby is referred to as Yellow Kirby not Keeby. The reason people think the Yellow Kirby from Dream Course is Keeby is because in an official Super Smash 64 Website the yellow Kirby Costume has this to go along with it "Yellow body: for 2P (commonly known as Keeby: Kirby Dream Course)". So Sakurai probably had this nickname for Yellow Kirby and it was just some fun trivia on a smash site. Keeby Yellow is also used as a color in Kirby Dream Buffet and is the first time Keeby was every referenced inside one of the games. Source twitter.com/ThanksKirbyWiki/status/1561164268954914817
7:20 Technically, the 3 other Kirbys _are canon._ Kirby was split into 4 versions of himself in Amazing Mirror, for the sake of the multiplayer, but the thing is, _they never get put back together._ There is canonically 4 different Kirbys following Amazing Mirror, that's just an unaddressed fact of the series. There is the wrinkle where Red Kirby never appears after Amazing Mirror (outside of Squeak Squad minigames), replaced by a Blue Kirby, but Kirby is able to use the Spray Paint items to change his color, all 4 of the kirbys could've spray painted thmselves different colors, the Pink Kirby we've been playing as for the past 20 years could actually be Green Kirby for all we know, just spray painted to be pink, a spray paint color option already present in Amazing Mirror.
The wars series also has some player colors worth mentioning: Famicom wars has red and blue as 1 and 2 respectively. Gameboy wars 1 and turbo had black and white. Gameboy wars 2 had red and white. Gameboy wars 3 had red and black. Super Famicom wars had red and blue on classic maps, green and yellow on new maps, and red, blue, green yellow on 4p maps. Advance wars 1, 2, and dual strike all had red, blue, green, and yellow. And although some maps (and custom maps) can have one or two of the armies removed, the order will still be the same. (Red will take priority as first player if present, Yellow will always be last player if it is present.) Batallion wars 1 didn't have multiplayer, but BW2 does, the colors range from Red, blue, and green. But seem interchangeable depending on the map. Advance wars days of ruin has red, blue, yellow, black. And can vary depending on the map. Reboot camp follows the same rules as 1, 2 and dual strike, although from what I've heard, black is playable on custom maps.
One thing I hope you add is the bomberman series. Nearly every game has the same consistent set of colors, from 1-8 it’s: White, Black, Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Pink, Cyan In atomic bomberman, pink and cyan are swapped and orange and purple are added to the end. Sometimes it flips the place of blue and red.
I hope you'll keep this up with a part 3. Some games like Mega Man Battle Network(it has a vs mode) or Soul Calibur and Killer Instinct could vary up the data a bit. I think Soul Calibur actually used Yellow for player 1 a few times for example. Maybe a bunch of wrestling games or Def Jam too.
There is a game called ChuChu Rocket! which was the first ever online multiplayer game which has player colors, they are as follows: Player 1 is blue, Player 2 is yellow, Player 3 is red, and Player 4 is green. Found that interesting because it’s an interesting set of player colors.
red also im SO GLAD you're covering 8 player games they were always so interesting when i was little cuz i was so used to blue red green and yellow (or red blue yellow green etc.) another thing, in 10:23, sonic colors has it so that you choose your color so idk if you wanna keep it in there
Some other games I’d like to mention are Fortune Street/Itadaki Street which I think use Player 1 as red, Player 2 as yellow, Player 3 as blue, and Player 4 as green. Bloons TD 6 which has a 4 player mode which uses Player 1 as red, Player 2 as blue, Player 3 as yellow, and Player 4 as green. Mario Kart DS has the weirdest player colors and also supports up to 8 players, the player colors from 1-8 are: Player 1 as green, Player 2 as blue, Player 3 as yellow, Player 4 as red, Player 5 as purple, Player 6 as cyan, Player 7 as pink, and Player 8 as orange. Just wanted to share some more interesting player color trivia.
15:54 Smash colors are also The Price Is Right colors, as said game show became the inspiration for color-coded player numbers. Wii colors? More like the International Superstar Soccer colors, but either way it's fine. Red Blue Green Yellow, which happens to be my favorite color layout, can be called the "Turbo" colors due to its early use in Power Rangers Turbo, as well as a few other Power Rangers seasons like Lightspeed Rescue and SPD. Blue Green Red Yellow is basically NFL Blitz '99 style, as nearly every NFL Blitz game released since then uses that player color layout.
Another interesting video, never notice this stuff until pointed out. However, I think in the sonic segment, Sonic and the Secret Rings also has a party mode, and while I’m not sure, they might also have unique colours.
Not to mention the "rainbow" theory where colors go through this order: Red, Scarlet, Orange, Amber, Yellow, Lime, Green, Sky Blue, Blue, Indigo, Violet, and Purple in this order. Some game series like beatmania IIDX (Blue, Red, Yellow, Green) and Guilty Gear (Red, Blue, Green, Yellow) tend to follow this coloring style no matter what direction the colors are going. Another theory is the deep meaning behind selected colors. Red can symbolize human blood, as humans are the most dominant species on Earth. Blue and green represent the sea and land, but Earth has more sea than land. Yellow can symbolize the Sun, and it is the center body of the Milkyway Galaxy. It doesn't orbit around Earth, but that's how our galaxy is.
If you consider the GBA's Game Link Cable as player colors, Player 1 is always Indigo, and Players 2, 3 and 4 are always Gray because of how the GBA Game Link Cable worked.
Player 1 as Blue, Player 2 as Yellow, Player 3 as Red, and Player 4 as Green seem to be the SEGA Player colors because it was used at least three times in Chu Chu Rocket!, Sonic Riders, and Sonic and the Secret Rings. It might have been used in more games.
I originally had a whole segment in the video about Keeby but I removed it. In the manual of the game(English and Japanese) the Yellow Kirby is referred to as Yellow Kirby not Keeby. The reason people think the Yellow Kirby from Dream Course is Keeby is because in an official Super Smash 64 Website the yellow Kirby Costume has this to go along with it "Yellow body: for 2P (commonly known as Keeby: Kirby Dream Course)". So Sakurai probably had this nickname for Yellow Kirby and it was just some fun trivia on a smash site. Keeby Yellow is also used as a color in Kirby Dream Buffet and is the first time Keeby was every referenced inside one of the games. Source twitter.com/ThanksKirbyWiki/status/1561164268954914817
I see you said gray for smash Wii U player 8 and Daytona player 5. They're actually black, and it makes a lot of sense when you consider the CMYK color scheme (although orange is more often paired with magenta, cyan, and black in games as yellow is often seen as the 4th primary color and goes along blue red and green in most 4player games).
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Pink, Yellow Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe - White, Yellow, Blue, Green in Magolor Epilogue, dependent on player character for all other modes (1p Kirby - Pink, 2p Kirby - Yellow, 3p Kirby - Blue, 4p Kirby - Green, Meta Knight - Purple, Dedede - Red, B. Waddle Dee - Orange)
Pac-Man Battle Royale has an 8-Player variant caller Pac-Man Battle Royale Chompionship, so that should also be considered. I don’t think the player colors in that are consistent with the original, so that’s something interesting. Another Pac-Man game you forgot is World’s Biggest Pac-Man, which uses yellow and green.
Funny how you know that Viva La Vida by by Coldplay with the rip of the Staff roll of Mario 64 from SiIvaGunner lol (plays when you start off the just dance series)
I originally had a whole segment in the video about Keeby but I removed it. In the manual of the game(English and Japanese) the Yellow Kirby is referred to as Yellow Kirby not Keeby. The reason people think the Yellow Kirby from Dream Course is Keeby is because in an official Super Smash 64 Website the yellow Kirby Costume has this to go along with it "Yellow body: for 2P (commonly known as Keeby: Kirby Dream Course)". So Sakurai probably had this nickname for Yellow Kirby and it was just some fun trivia on a smash site. Keeby Yellow is also used as a color in Kirby Dream Buffet and is the first time Keeby was every referenced inside one of the games. Source twitter.com/ThanksKirbyWiki/status/1561164268954914817
I’m making a multiplayer game that will use colors for players, I wonder what colors I should use for Players 1, 2, 3, and 4, and for a potential 8 player mode as well. What do you think I should have the player colors be? Reply to this comment with the player colors I should pick.
8:28 Actually... these colors have been used since 2011's Return to Dream Land, as it's the color that'll default when using multiple Kirbies instead of the other 3 heroes. Kirby Fighters in Triple Deluxe also defaulted to this color combination (even if you're allowed to change colors in the latter)
Wanna know sum. Player 1 being blue is my favorite thing on the wii IMO. Red in Mario parties 1-6 felt a bit off. Same should be said for Mario Kart Wii for P1 being yellow.
In Japan with yes and no, then tend to use red and blue. The PlayStation's buttons are a perfect example of this as ◯ was used for confirm and ✕ for cancel in Japan until the PS5, and these are red and blue. I heard once that the Wii chose to switch this so it's more natural in west (red is generally seen as incorrect in the west), but I have no evidence for this. You may think for player colors this sorta distinction doesn't matter, but I think it comes from there. Primary vs. secondary and such. I think since in the west since correct is green and wrong is red, if we made more four player multiplayer games back then and pushed the industry, that could have happened, but history has shown it didn't lol
Also in the Super Monkey Ball games, in the party game Monkey Race, starting from Super Monkey Ball 2, that game had 8 players in which the fifth-eighth computer players use cyan, pink, black and white. In Super Monkey Ball Adventure, it would change to orange, cyan, white and purple. In Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, Step and Roll and 3D, it would then be cyan, purple, orange and pink. And in Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania, it would be pink, cyan, black, white.
This video does not at all need to be 19 minutes. Heck even 8 minutes is stretching it. You could list all the colour combinations and what games use which colours in like 4 minutes and even then the topic isnt really made very interesting so it would still drag a little bit
I think the colors blue and red are perfect for players 1 and 2 respectively because first they’re like polar opposites. And second these colors are popularly used in combat sports like boxing, professional wrestling, and martial arts.
Reposting my comment from the last video since the Fire Emblem series hasn’t been mentioned yet. Fire Emblem’s Link Arena on the GBA games are as follows: 1: Blue 2: Green 3: Red 4: Purple In singleplayer, blue is the player and red is the enemy, with green as ally units. Purple is multiplayer exclusive
Second-player Kirby is always yellow because it was one of the top candidates when deciding what color to make Kirby after the Game Boy games. But, they decided that would make him look too much like Pac Man. Kirby's Dream Course refers to yellow Kirby as "Keeby"!
9:46 Sonic R got a Windows version that adds 3 and 4 Player split screen modes not on the Sega Saturn original. As a result, 3P is yellow and 4P is green.
Player 8 in Smash 4 is actually Slate, not Grey. Grey is specifically reserved for CPU characters, and it's a pretty clearly distinct color by comparison.
I'll just go by _Fire Emblem_ logic again, like last time. Player 1 is Blue (or the "Player Army" color of the series) *Player 2 is **_Yellow_** (like the "Other Army/Partner" color in the series; this color is seen more often in Path of Radiance & Three Houses)* Player 3 is Red (or the "Enemy Army" color of the series) Player 4 is Green (or the "Ally Army" color of the series) Player 5 is Purple (or the "Link Arena" team color of the GBA games in the series)
Hey Snooplax, what happened to the *Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts* Finale? You seemed pretty close to the end and then stopped streaming it. Not a big deal as I'm sure You have Your reasons. but my curiosity can't help but to wonder what those reasons were? 🤔🙂
i know i brought up kirby's return to dreamland in the previous video's comments, but i'm gonna do it again 'cuase i found something that i think should definitely get it to qualify for this data. at least, it should get kirby's return to dreamland deluxe on there. some nintendo switch games change the controller connection menu. in kirby's return to dreamland deluxe, the boxes for the connected controllers have colored outlines. the colors are pink, yellow, blue, green - regardless of the characters or mode in play.
The truth is..... Players don't have an actual color to be represented. They are just generic multiplayer symbols used to represent who is who. Thats why every player has assigned a different color each. The most iconic is P1 Red, P2 blue, P3 yellow and P4 green, but it doesn't matter. You can choose any color for any player! Edit:i forgot to name the other players (P5, P6, P7 and P8) but it doesn't matter. the most common is 4 players so ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯