@@gorilmod9667 An old wehrmacht general. Many wehrmacht officers took part in the creation of the Bundeswehr, aswell. Heusinger, Speidel, Manteuffel, etc.
@@shaider1982 the nazis who got stuck in Argentina after their warship got captured by the allied were pretty well hidden in the mountains of Cordoba, so yeah. Hidden.
Welcome to argentina in the 1930's, put a colored armband and shoot anyone who has a different color one, in case you can't find anyone to shoot, shoot your own team.
Fun fact: My grandad, Eugenio, who is turning 93 next week, worked most of his life in a rail station in Rosario, Arg, and met quite a lot of workers who were British immigrants, and when the war broke out, many of them went back to Britain to enlist in the Armed Forces. By the end of the war, only a handful of them actually came back. Also during the war, many British sailors who were off-duty often came here to hang out with their cousins that migrated, and during the night go visit the clandestine clubs to have some fun before going back to the sea. Another fun fact: my grand-grandfather Victor (Eugenio's father) claimed to have met Otto Skorzeny (German general, that led an assault during the battle of the Ardennes) once in a hotel in Buenos Aires, in 1958. He said that Otto had such an energic voice, that you could hear him talk from the other side of the hall. That's all I know about such event because Victor passed away long before I was born, otherwise I'd asked him about everything. EDIT 11/03/2023 R.I.P Eugenio Rosalén (1928 - 2023) Tuviste una larga y extraordinaria vida y te vamos a extrañar mucho, viejo querido, te fuiste tan repentinamente y sin previo aviso. Espero que la cálida compañía que te dimos entre toda la familia te haya sido de lo más reconfortante en estos últimos años. Buen viaje viejo querido!
@@ignaz-one7430 también escuché lo mismo... Después de la guerra se escapó a España donde pasó unos años allá, y luego se vino para Argentina a servir como guardaespaldas personal de Eva. Después de eso ni idea si se quedó o se fue, ni siquiera dónde murió. Tampoco sé cómo mi bisabuelo lo reconoció de tal forma que pudiese asegurar que fuese Skorzeny, aunque también tengo mis teorías...
Otto Skorzeny, as in the SS Obersturmbannführer (lieutenant colonel) who helped get rid of Horthy, freed Mussolini, escaped from an internment camp in 1948, was offered a job as a military advisor to Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser, became an advisor to Argentinian president Juan Perón. Only to be allegedly be recruited the Mossad and conduct operations for the agency? That Otto Skorzeny?
@@Joe_Mama661 most likely, bot he and my grand grandfather were almost the same age & phisical appearance (tall and robust). But how my grand grandfather managed to recognize Skorzeny is unknown to all. My grandfather (Victor's son) wasn't with him at the time, and doesn't know that much about the war and it's notable figures and neither he cares.
Never ask a woman: *Her age* A man: *His salary* An Argentine: *His grandfather's SS rank* Edit: *An historical fact* In 1910 the German Army gave the Argentine Army a military march called "Alte Kameraden" on the occasion of the first centenary of its independence. In reciprocity, the Argentine Army authorized the German Army to use the "San Lorenzo March". This march was used in the military parade in Paris when Nazi Germany conquered France. Then, in 1964, the French President De Gaulle, who was a protagonist and war hero during the liberation of France, visited Argentina and it was then when the Argentine military band upon his arrival played the "San Lorenzo March" (XD) this made De Gaulle feel offended as he took it as a lack of respect. But still it was not enough to damage the diplomacy between Argentina and France.
@@090giver090 Chile modeled its army on the Prussian tradition, their navy on the English tradition, and their air force uses technology from the American air force. They might not have the biggest military in South America, but they certainly are number one in quality.
Argentine officers April 1982 : We have finally fulfilled our father’s dreams of invading ( Some) British Isles Royal Marines June 1982 : Didn’t Bloody work out much better than last time, did it mate ?
Apparently when Chile tried to enter into a free trade agreement with Japan in the 90ies they discovered they had been formally at war with them since WW2. No one had bothered to remove the declaration of war.
Another fact is that immigration's a protected right in the Argentine constitution, so no matter who's in charge in Argentina, the border remained and still remains open to anyone who wishes, or dares, to live as an Argentine.
@@calibvr They still go there since living standards are simply better. Only Chile competes with 'em in that aspect, and they aren't nearly as welcoming or big.
That's not even the final coup season. There were more in 1955, 1962, 1966 and 1976. Democracy has returned in 1983 and there have been no more coups so far. I really hope it stays that way...
Nearly all of South America (as well as Central America) joined the war as soon as it was inevitable that Allies would be victorious. The Brazilians are perhaps the only ones who contributed more than a simple declaration of war and a bit of financial support. In World War I, Japan joined the Ententè against the Central Powers, losing about 400 people, yet they were still given a seat at the Paris Peace Conference. The Latin American countries likely realized that they, like Japan did in World War I, would be able to share in the spoils of war without sacrificing their youth.
@@jordanmorris5827 Japan joined WW1 to get some German islands, South American countries did not join WW2 out of gaining something for nothing, they joined because the US told them to or they will be locked diplomatically, Argentina got a gun lend-lease for joining the Allies + all members who declared war on Germany got a seat at the UN security council, so thats that.
In the last years of the war, two german sumbmarines surrendered to the Argentine navy in Mar del Plata and Buenos Aires. There's an old rumor about U-boats getting german officers to patagonian coasts in Río Negro
Interesting video about my country Hilbert, I would like to add that Peron had fascist (as in Italian) leanings and he even went to Italy to meet Mussolini
My mother was born and raised in Argentina during the 30s and 40s. She went to an English school in Buenos Aires. During the war, she remembered seeing the wreck of the Graf Spee in the Rio Plata.
that's not possible since it was scutled off the coast of Montevideo, not Buenos Aires. Montevideo's not visible from Buenos Aires, since it is 200 km's down river. That's over 4 hours by modern ferry away. Back in the day it was an overnight sail.
@@dzhek_mak Necochea's Even further away, It's a 6 hour drive by highway south of Buenos Aires. Necochea's by the sea, Buenos Aires's by the river plate. These places are gigantic though, to give You an idea, You can't see the other Bank of the river plate from the Argentine side, it looks like an ocean.
@@historywithhilbert146 Pretty excited about that. You are one of the few anglophone RU-vid channels which seem to have a complex understanding of the history of countries outside of Europe and North America.
As and argentinian I love how we as a nation are known for two things Our football players the 300 nazi dudes that came to our country and somehow made it new naziland
I get annoyed how much foreigners tend to portray my country as some sort of secret Axis power. We simply remained neutral throughout the conflict because we didn't have much reason to join the war. In fact joining the war would've probably been a bad move, since Argentina was full of immigrants from throughout Europe and you couldn't please everyone (there even was a point in the early XX century where there were more immigrants living in Buenos Aires than people born in Argentina. Most of them from Italy, Spain and France, in that order). As you said we took in almost everyone escaping Europe from the conflict, to this day we have one of the largest Jewish communities in the world. But everyone just remembers the Nazis who escaped here, as if no other country took in Nazi criminals. Even major Ally contributors like the US gave asylum to Nazi.
I'm surprised there was no information on the Graf Spree (although she was scuttled in Montevideo) but at least the reaction to the closest military action to Argentina. But otherwise, a great video
You forgot to mention that Argentina held a nazi rally in 1938 to celebrate the Anschluss of Austria. Some 30 or 20K gathered in the Luna Park stadium. The pics with the giant swastikas makes it look like Nazi Germany.
True, those pictures are scary af. But remember something similar happened in the U.S. in Madison Square Garden ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eq9yst4W-6c.html. Unfortunately, nazism was cool before the war. Also, Ed Sheeran played in both venues. Coincidence? I think not.
Excellent video as always! Though I have probably the smallest critique ever: the Argentinian army soldiers first appearing at 2:57. Their suspender buckle thingies are slightly off-center!
And a lot of Ustase people too as Argentina had a big Croatian community even before the war and the ustase even had recruiters there in the 30s and 40s
Really good video, it´s nice to see someone talk about this and not round everything to just "it´s a nazi state nothing else" specially when the US pardoned several nazi scientists if they agreed to work on their nuclear projects
In 2006, I was on a trip in Argentina and stopped into a neighborhood barber shop to get a haircut. The guy who cut my hair looked to be in his 70s, and as we chatted, he told me was born in Austria. We talked about Argentina and the culture, and at one point I remembered to ask him about something I'd seen on one of the Argentine peso bills - "La Conquista del Desierto" or the Conquest of the Desert. He explained that it was a period in the 19th century when white settlers had moved into the remote, arid parts of central Argentina and, in his words, had 'exterminated' the Natives. I asked him why that was done, and his reply was "Well, of course, we had to exterminate them - they just wouldn't leave the white people alone." Needless to say, I have some suspicions about that guy's early life.
You could have talked in a more detailed way about the story of the argentinians who joined the RAF. They were concentrated in the 164 Squadron. Also, the way you simplified the whole argentinian history from 1816 to 1861 like nothing happenned lol. The story of my country is very interesting. The River Plate region had several bloody civil wars, and also conventional wars among the countries here. Interesting stuff like the Anglo-French blockade of the River Plate, also called "Parana war" which are not very known by the anglo public. Sadly i dont know if there are any books about these subjects in english for you to read and the ones i know in english, like the ones published by Osprey, present a very summarized version.
Just one thing, about the pronunciation of Ramón Castillo; Argentinians pronounce "ll" and "y" (with the exception of "y" meaning "and") like "sh", not "I" or "l".. You should pronounce it "Ramón Castisho"
The guy took the actual effort of trying to pronounce the Spanish names "properly" to the point where he butchered Farrell's name. Farrell is an Irish surname and you would pronounce it the same way as you would in English. Pobre flaco.
In some ways he had a point. During the Nuremberg trials one of the key charges against senior Nazis was effectively that they were complicit in starting the war which killed so many people by knowingly invading other countries. Peron merely suggested that the likes of the US, Britain, Russia and France accusing anyone of warmongering or launching unprovoked acts of aggression and invasion against other countries was outrageous hypocrasy. Which it was. The Nazis were guilty as hell, but Peron had a point.
You have changed my impression about Argentina Hilbert. I never knew any of those facts about their jewish population or their acknowledgement of Israel It goes to show there are always 2 sides 2 a coin. Another great video Amigo 😎
Yeah, altought Argentina wasn't under a Nazi regime, the country was under a fascist dictatorship under Juan Domingo Perón from 1946 to 1955, very similar to franquist Spain and Salazar in Portugal, wasn't Nazi, but quite fascist
Peron was like Thanos in that way "All perfectly balanced" so a bunch of nazis and jew refugees in the same bag. Actually the son of Eichman dated a jewish girl...
@@LautaroArgentino ah yes i forgot how democratic is the putin regime, they have elections though...., didnt hitler also won the 1933 german elections ?
Which amounts to almost nothing. I mean the war only really affected Brazil in helping to sell commodities overseas and getting financing for major investments in the local steel industry, helping create the basis for future industrialization.
Me as a brazilian I find it very interesting and funny how Argentina's army were modeled after the german wehrmacht in the first half of the last century, because we in Brazil had adopeted the french doctrine right after ww1. So it's just funny how here in South America there were two rival countries that looked like Germany and France all over again. Imagine if we had broke into war lol. (France would win again of course) xD
@@TheBahianoP1k As principais instituições de ensino do exército seguem uma formação Francesa. Desde o tempo em que o Brasil adotou essa doutrina nos anos 20 do século passado.
@@gb2629 I think Brazil can definitely win a war against Argentina in the present times because the brazilian Army are much better equiped at the moment, and it's a much larger force. And Argentina is facing economic turmoil resulting on the defunding of its military budget. Also given the territorial position of both countries Brazil has a clear upper hand.
The world: damn bro, how did you get that jet technology without help from the western or eastern nations?, you must have great national scientists!. Argentina: *scrambling to get nazi's new argie papers.* YEAH SURE AMIGO, WE TOTALLY HAVE A BIG SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRY TO CREATE ADVANCED JET FIGHTING AIRCRAFT YES.
Argentina was basically a British colony economically speaking. That also explains why it fared so poorly in the second half of the 20th century, economically speaking, as the UK lost prominence in the world system and Argentina failed to decouple it's economy from wheat and meat and other products that it exported to the British (which the new superpower, the US, was a producer of instead of an importer).
@@FOLIPE main trading partner. No one was stoped from starting and runing a buissines selling ice to the pengwins. Exept it is a bad idea. Uk and argentina where and still are complementary economies. You dont usually find potatoe farmes selling potatoes to potato farmers. Australia, NZ kenya SA and many more where main trading partners of the Uk. They did not do that badly
The jews here un Buenos Aires have 2 entire neighbourhoods and a Football Club called Atlanta. Altanta's main rival is Chacarita which coincidentally has Nazi Germany's colours...
Literally caries out a coup just to prevent the declaration of war to Germany. It should be noted 50/60 days after stalingrad surrender the surrender of Tunisia.
You should do a video on what Mexico did during WW2. Most people don't even know that a large amount of people in the us military at that time were of Mexican descent.
Brazil's sent 5.000 troops to fight in Europe (Italy, 1043), and the navy and airforce from 1942 took part in the Battle of the Atlantic. A total of almost 26.000 Brazilian personnel participated, on Allied side, in WWII.
Where did you find pictures of the Argentine army in ww2? I am trying to get a understanding of what every country on the south American continent uniforms looked like
As an argentinian, it always surprises me how everyone in the netherlands goes on and on about how the nazis escaped to argentina. In any case, it would be the non-useful nazis, as those were took in by both the americans and soviets. Priebke was caught in my hometown while he was the director of the german school (without changing his name) though, so there is some truth to that haha
In the Netherlands Argentina is also very well known for high inflation, the Falklands war, nationalising Respol and Evita Peron. Please note this is a tongue in cheek response.
@@jeanpierreviergever1417 jajaja, all the bad things XD Well, Argentina is made up of only bad things. At least i am happy people know more than "Maradona"
You know since so much of your 5 minute history episodes have been about modern insurgencies & paramilitaries, maybe cover the Yugoslav wars, for example the Croatian Republic of Herceg-Bosnia, Western Bosnia, the local Serb entities like Krajina, Eastern Slavonic, Republicans Srpska, or the Serb autonomous regions, or Serb militias like the Panthers under Ljubo Mauser, or Arkan’s Tigers
