viktor mengele It's a fact that you bet that? Even if he was a "newbie", should we hold that against him? Should we go around at shows asking people how many shows they've been to to determine their worth?
Louie P Definitely not the greatest band but they had some REALLY good shit! From 1970-1975 was some of the best music recorded. Europe 72, Skull and Roses, and Reckoning are great albums. Europe 72 is is the best. The 1974 movie soundtrack is great too but more often than not the xm station plays straight garbage, they had more shitty music than good in my opinion
@@davidpfeifer9489 imo their late 80s performances are their best material. brent is the best guy they ever had on the keys and by then he was as solid as any other member. I like their early 90s stuff when they'd sometimes have vince and bruce on and that insanely good saxaphone player, holy shit. 70s had some really good energy behind some of the performances but I'm really not a fan of the contributions kieth and his wife made to the band's sound. check the 7/2/88 performance of row jimmy to see how big of an impact brent can make on a song vs kieth/donna, doing what both of them do at the same time. 70s still has my favorite scarlet-fire performance, though. 4/23/77. and of course that 5/8/77 dancin in the streets.
As an audio engineer back in those days , what impressed me the most was the sound of a good night was something that to this day has not been duplicated .it was unique . Garcia was a guitar god .
Indeed. Their sound, the quality of their sound is unmatched. That's really what brought it all together. Thank Owsley & acid and their individual & collective brilliance for that.
I wish I could have heard them in those days. Some of the audience recordings of those shows, when made with good equipment in a venue with decent acoustics, sound amazingly good, just from a couple of mics set up in the room. It must have sounded even better in person. The band were innovators in many ways.
I knew Pig Pen's brother. He died of the same thing. The owner of Saint Micheal's Alley on university ave told them to come back when they knew how to play. The night Jerry died, they busted him out of rehab and went to get milk shakes and cheeseburgers. Pig Pen's sister took all the old Warlock tapes to idaho where they are sitting in a basement to this day. Those are a few things Dead Heads would not know.
Actually when I asked who was “they”, I was asking who “busted” him out of serenity knolls the night he died. I thought he had self admitted incognito.
I got the info from Jerry’s defense attorneys daughter. Not sure of who they be. I was in Palo Alto the day Jerry died. I have never been a dead head. Too close to home. Dead Heads are from Ohio. More like family to me. Like La Honda and Kesey and the PA veteran’s hospital. Because one flew east and one flew west.and one flew over…
Whenever I'm sad or going through tough times I take out my guitar or I listen to some Grateful Dead. They really speak to me. When I close my eyes it's like I'm travelling through time and am speaking to Jerry face to face
Some people commented that every Dead Head knows this stuff, but the part about Jerry's picture appearing in a Nixon commercial, his insisting that Hunter be inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, and the band doing a benefit concert for Ken Kesey's yogurt company were new and interesting facts for me.
When I was at the 08/27/72 show in OR, all we knew was that the Dead were playing a creamery benefit concert in a field in the woods. Now, who wouldn`t want to go the that? The show didn`t make enough money to save Nancy`s company, so Grateful Dead gave them the money out of their own pockets to save the Yogurt company. There`s a little trivia for ya.
Thats right the new riders of the purple sage, jerry garcia band. I saw a show that lasted around 7 hours of all of Garcia's side groups, and Robert Hunter Band at a hockey arena in 1978 on long island ny
@@markbreedlove2280 Yes they most likely had a part in the hiring of Hells Angels for security. Good thing they did, who knows how many people would have been shot? Also; who was the guy going to shoot? A Hells Angel? Someone else in the audience? Someone on stage perhaps? Hells Angel or not, the man who stopped that guy from shooting anybody is a hero in my book.
I didn't know all of this trivia, just most of it. If you dont know about the creamery benefit then I envy you. Its my favourite show bar none. Now that it has an official release you can buy it by looking up "Sunshine Daydream" on your music site of choice. The 30 minute Dark Star into El Paso never ceases to send a shiver down my spine...
This video might be decent, if it weren't for the ridiculous title. This is Dead 101. Most casual fans would know most, if not all of this. Die hard fans like myself would be bored.
Mom is a deadhead. Apparently she's been to well over 550 concerts, she was one of the people that traveled the country following them with a 65VW Camper. Interesting talks with her sounds something like "so mom, what drugs have you not done?" Actually the reason I was ever born. She's from Philadelphia but the Dead brought her to California where she met my dad. I may enjoy their music but I appreciate them for bringing about my existence.
Lot of stuff to digest. Only saw them once just before pigpen died. He was onstage the whole time but only played the harp on a couple of tunes. I don’t think Mickey Hart was with them then, not sure. Wow, what a band. Never had another opportunity to see them, and never heard tunes later than the double live in Europe album. Wow, what a great record that was. I need to listen to their later stuff. Saw Jerry at a convenience store I think near Mojave or somewhere near Barstow in a little desert town. What memories. Hope he and Ron rest in peace.
A true dead head knows this. I got to see them MANY times. Something that a lot of people don’t know is that they didn’t like being associated with drugs. They didn’t like the stigma that followed them in that respect. They were a band that liked to go on musical journeys and THAT is what they tried to share with people. Still a good video though, thanks. 💀⚡️🌹
Never was a "DEAD HEAD" but one of my best memories is having a few beers with elderly gentleman at a bar . we talked for several hours when he informed me he had to leave to go to the concert , I asked if he was going to the DEAD concert ? He just smiled and said " I think I better " . after he left the bartender said "you have no idea who you have been drinking with do you ? " I was informed that was why he liked to come in , younger patron's did not know him and he could just be himself for a few hours !
It's pretty impossible that an "elderly" Jerry would be out in public drinking a beer anywhere near the vicinity a concert venue in the 80's or 90's. He was pretty much holed up in his hotel rooms the entire time while on tour for protection. Do you have more details you'd like to share?
I love that you mention the Bob Weir documentary, and then day Jerry didn't want to be at the rock hall induction. He was dealing with health concerns at the time, which is clearly laid out in that documentary. He may not have been interested, but he was also physically unable to go, hence the cut out....
if I was doing lsd ,I'd laugh my as off at most of these comments! every "die hard deadhead" had to start somewhere, so let other peaple start there own long strange trip. sorry we were late.
thanx as a guy who cares much more about the musc than the personal lives of the band members - was shocked to read about Bobs family and the brothers guitar - very cool stuff
That's just crazy conspiracy theory no way we're these guys enslaving their fans with drugs there is absolutely no symbolism in any of their albums go back to sleep now
You kind of glossed over Altamont. For one thing, Phil Lesh described in his autobiography, Searching For The Sound, that he got roughed up by one member of The Hell's Angels who was in charge of backstage security. He had told the person three times who he was and what band he was in, but the HA in question kept saying "Sorry, No Entry" before actually pushing him to the ground. Luckily, there was another Hell's Angel nearby who recognized Phil, and sorted things out. Also, and this is actually in the film Gimme Shelter, after The Jefferson Airplane got off the stage, due to a Hell's Angel punching out guitar player Marty Balin, Jerry Garcia arrives at the site, and asks the other JA guitar player, Paul Kantner what was going on, to which he replied that one of the HA just punched out Marty Balin. This is why The Grateful Dead decided not to play.
They did designate an area in the audience. The"tapers" area. Garcia was quoted as saying "once we are off the stage, we are finished with the music. They can do what ever they want with it" They now have bt.etree.org and archive.org with almost everything they ever recoreded on it which was just about everything since 1964. So maybe they didn't encourage it but they did accept it as part of the Grateful Dead experience.
Right, and I don't see it as a "marketing gimmick", more like something that developed organically because they treated their fans well and always tried to put on the best show possible, which was also just a result of trying to satisfy their own lofty expectations
Hearing jerry talk makes me cry he reminds me of my dad that past away he used to literally be there biggest fan I always remember him blasting their music on giant speakers and me bothering him about being a fanboy 😂
Although being a dead fan since 68 I met the grateful dead way too late,but soon enough.As a local carpenter I was sent to work a show with the road crew, pretty much round the clock for three days, in the real early nineties.Down to earth,Great people. Good times man good times
I smoked weed with Jerry in 1975. He was touring with Merle Saunders in Albany, NY. I was experimenting with a prototype DBX compressor/expander. I met him at the hotel he was staying at close to the concert and pitched the idea of recording him. Next thing you know, I was in his limo heading to the venue. At the time, I was running Jamaican weed from South Florida to Albany and I rolled three joints. While I was backstage, I asked Jerry if he wanted to get stoned on some good Jamaican weed. "Sure." he said. And that's when I realized that the shirt with the joints was back at home. "No problem," said Jerry. "We'll smoke mine". And we did. And I never washed my lips again after that. /|\
QueerAndUnplugged I ( along with many others) got to see Jerry when he was touring with Saunders at the long gone Capitol Theater in Passaic NJ in the early '70's. Actually if I remember correctly, I saw them twice that week. It was a fun show and one of the many I saw at that great small theater. God, the bands I saw there; Steven Stills, The Kinks, Yes ( during the Fragile tour) Hot Tuna, Traffic and on and on!! If you were from the northeast, you made the Capitol Theater scene many time. Old and slightly run down but what sound and it held 5 -7 thousand if I remember right. Everyone loved playing there and being a dyed in the wool Jersey boy, those were my people!!! Jersey fucking rocked back in the day!!!
Oh, many many times I saw shows at the Capitol Theater in NJ. Jackson Browne, Warron Zevon and I can't remember all them. Ravages of time and debauchery. /|\
a right before Garcia's death,a friend of mine claimed jerry has seen more faces on earth than anyone who has ever lived.once you added all the shows the dead.JGB,JGAB,etc.. I'm not saying at one time like billy Graham addressing one million at one time but but collectively.
I have unsuccessfully tried to convert my music-listenin' friends to Grateful Deadness. But that's okay , I guess to me in my small circle they're all mine.
"die-hard" was a slang term before the movie with same title came out. A die-hard fan is a super-fan, more into the band/thing than most fans. (That's why true die-hard deadheads have complaining comments that they already know all this stuff.)
I love how this brings the assholes out of the woodwork. I enjoyed the video, so thanks for the post. Having said that, any negative posts about the video or the fans of it or the Dead or wannabees are coming from folks who have entirely missed the point of being a deadhead.I'm a deadhead because I choose to be. I dont know every fact and every historical tidbit. I just love the music, the lyrics, and the fans. after 30 yrs I still do, and I'm pretty sure I always will. That is what I believe qualifies me as a deadhead. There is a tidlewave rolling across the music scene today that started as a ripple over 50 years ago, and I for one plan to ride that wave till the day I die. Much Love Now And Forever.
A voice of reason! Yeah, it's about the music and the vibe. Naysayers, et al, obviously don't get it and prolly never will. Row Jimmy is a true classic Jerry/GD tune! 😎
I heard from a Pastor that a few days before Jerry passed away that a Pastor shared Jesus with him and that he gave his life to Jesus. I guess only eternity well reveal that but u would encourage yall to look into Jesus as He changed my life years ago and set me free of drugs and an empty heart. Jesus loves each of you tons 😊
then after he met his biological father he joins the Bohemian club which includes the top politicians and industrialists with very questionable ethics.
i saw the interview and have been told this by friends of mine a few times over the years. the interview was a interesting attempt to play off the gathering of the elite of the world getting together just relaxing and no rituals what so ever. there are some uploads of people secretly recording what they could. it was some weird behavior. anyway in the interview he admitted to being in the bohemian club or group whatever the exact name was. i can not remember right now. i will look it up and post the address here. you can watch for yourself.
Am I the only one that remembers on their bass drum it said "Property of the Hell's Angels". It also said that on Big Brother's bass drum. I heard Janis would party with the Angels and get smacked around.
I met dead heads at a show that didn't know Jerry was in the army, it got brought up because it was veterans day, and my twin is a vet, it is odd how Jerry was kicked out for fighting, I know he is only human, but think about it, Jerry Garcia
"Viral Marketing Pioneers" right... put a hip new slant on the Dead's refusal to act like dicks when people taped shows. They encouraged it, and it certainly helped to get word out. It was free advertising and highlighted the live performances that albums missed. Live was it. That was where the magic happened.
2 things i want to add.The band never asked Mickey to leave after his father ripped them off.Not that this video implied that,i just want to make that clear,Mickey left on his own and the band did not harbor bad feelings towards Mickey. I wouldn't say the band left mainstream music behind to make the 1970 LP's Workingman's Dead and American Beauty cause those 1960's LP's are pretty far from mainstream. Die hard fans know this info but this is a good little video for people trying to gather some inside info about the band.
Mom is a deadhead. Apparently she's been to well over 550 concerts, she was one of the people that traveled the country following them with a 65VW Camper. Interesting talks with her sounds something like "so mom, what drugs have you not done?" Actually the reason I was ever born. She's from Philadelphia but the Dead brought her to California where she met my dad. I may not like their music but I appreciate the
The GD punked out at Altamont. The stones didn't want to go on either, but they reasoned that there would be a riot if they didn't. When they finally got on stage, the crowd was restless because they had been waiting such a long time for another band to perform. That space of time was supposed to have been filled by the GD, but at the last moment they backed out. Maybe if they went on, things would not have become so ugly for the stones.
As Live Dead so eloquently attests, the Grateful Dead just might have been the best live band in the world during the year of 1969, so any release of material from that period is a (Dead) head turner. This release captures two complete concerts held at the Seminole Indian reservation in Florida on May 23 and 24, 1969, three months after Live Dead and a month after the Midwest shows immortalized on Dick’s Picks Vol. 26. With both Bear (who recorded this show in his usual meticulous fashion) and Timothy Leary in attendance, it’s safe to say that there was something in the air at both shows; Jerry Garcia’s riffage is about as raw as it ever got, and the trademark period sequence of “Dark Star”/”St. Stephen”/”The Eleven”/”Turn on Your Lovelight” is particularly charged, with a nearly half-hour “Lovelight” shining very brightly indeed. Show two starts with another half-hour but very different “Lovelight,” as Pigpen slowly turns up the heat, followed by the rare “He Was a Friend of Mine,” “Alligator,” and another “St. Stephen” (flying out of “Drums” for the only time during its 1968-1971 incarnation) among other treats. Great graphics, too, with notes by Blair Jackson and a reminiscence by Tom Constanten. Never before available at retail!
Im dating myself by knowing the spinner who died at the Esalan hot tub. He was a diehard. I had other friends that passed on early. Because they got involved with heroin. Now America is really caught up dealing with an epidemic. It saddens me that we have they experience but now way to convey to these young kids, what they are getting involved with.. Thank you to the Dead family for every fun experience.
I read recently that Jerry almost auditioned to join Bill Monroe and The Bluegrass Boys on Banjo, but chickened out at the last minute. Imagine the different route history would have taken had he followed through and gotten the job...
This video mentions something called the “Altamont music festival”. That wasn’t the actual name of the Stones’ free concert. In fact it did not have a name. It was just a free concert on the Altamont Speedway in Livermore California
great info, but one small correction.... jerry met others in east palo alto, in whiskey gulch, not palo alto..... pretty big difference, though..... very rich meets very poor. for better or worse, whiskey gulch is gone, replaced by a four seasons hotel and law offices....
They we're never mainstream. They actually became more "mainstream" after the release of Working. And no mention of the band living in Watts Los Angeles before moving to San Francisco.
You are absolutely correct Jerry had two bands he fesponsible for The G.D. n J.G.B. John Kahn should have left him alone. I knew everything you mentioned. The "TheDead" never recognized Vince after jerrys death n brent died a year after the hit song about his daughter n the love he had for her. Brent was my favorite but vince did excellent keyboards with Jerry. Phil worked Jerry hard asvticket prices soared to 60 usds. Phil could have been a better friend.
This is a well made, fun little 6 minute trifle that might inform some latecomers. Comments of the silly. Of *course* most of us know all or most of this shit. My first show was '73 (Maples Pavillion) and so what? Take exception to the title, obviously, but some great shots and screen grabs, and seeing Phil in that tux always cracks me up (But, primary biliary cholangitis can be directly related to alcohol abuse.) And it stings when he say "half-century ago". . :-)
I just have been more than die hard as I knew all this stuff back in the day. Unfortunately, I was only able to devote 8 years to Tour! Should've jumped on the bus much sooner!
They definitely didn’t “encourage” their fans to make recordings of their music. They basically gave in and allowed them to, but they didn’t encourage it.
Most deadheads already know most of this stuff. I didn't know about the Nixon commercial, though. That was weird. Also, the full story behind the Veneta concert.
everyone should read "living with the dead" by scully and dalton. rock scully was there from the beginning and has a lot of insights into the bands evolution.
Here's something you might not know about the Greatful Dead If you put a GD bumper sticker on your car, ESPECIALLY the "Steal Your Face" logo(the skull & lightning bolt), guess what? The police will pull you over more frequently than usual for random violations, just to have a friendly chat! For some reason they always search me and my car for "untaxed stamps", and they keep asking if I know a chick named lucy? What's up with that? No but seriously don't put Grateful Dead bumper stickers on your car, especially beater cars. Cops are told to look out for cars w/ the Steal Your Face insignia, Skeleton w/roses, or the Dancing Bears. It's less of a problem today but you're basically asking to have your whole car searched. Everyone who liked the dead learned this stuff in the first few weeks or months of learning about the band. Nobody told me any of those bumper stickers we bartered on were just giant red flags for your car.
john o'sullivan most definently. although, the Dead couldnt have been done without Bob, Pigpen, and all the others. amazing band, sound, words, and music.