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If you haven't checked out the previous video on a more technical explanation of impedance it's right here:
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@konradwelz8752
@konradwelz8752 Год назад
I was getting all hung up about whether my mic pre has enough impedance for my ribbon mic. This video has certainly illustrated the issue very well and put that worry to bed. Your previous video on the subject of impedance was also very informative. You have a new subscriber.
@BingoBabyO
@BingoBabyO Год назад
Awesome talk on impedance… you should do one on headphones impedance too.. that’s always a confusing topic as well !!
@manthosdamigos
@manthosdamigos 8 месяцев назад
Seriously underrated videos you have there... thank you so much, you made it clear and audible! 🙏
@robshift
@robshift Год назад
Great to watch this after the technical video you posted.
@javierf55
@javierf55 Месяц назад
Splendid video, so useful. In my case, I have a Fender Hotrod Deluxe amp, plus a Shure SM58 mic. I recently bought a Hohner Crossover C harmonica, so I bought a Shure A85F transformer. but the problem now is that I'm getting so high feedback noise even with minimum volume; the solution at this moment is to play the harmonica, like twenty feet away from the amp, which is not practical for rehearsing.
@bsdiceman
@bsdiceman 4 месяца назад
Great video
@objectsinspaceman
@objectsinspaceman Год назад
Great follow-up: thanks!
@stephenmead5488
@stephenmead5488 Год назад
It’s important to realize that impedance is frequency dependent, and that this dependence will affect the timbre of the signal from the source device. Microphones that have buffer stages like condenser mikes and some ribbons should be less affected. But ribbon and dynamic mics have impedance curves that vary widely across the frequency spectrum as do piezos. With low impedance preamps, the frequencies that occur at the regions where the source impedance is high will be attenuated more than those frequencies that occur in lower impedance regions.
@PoloABD
@PoloABD 11 месяцев назад
So does something happen to the impedance curve when you raise and lower the nominal impedance as shown in this video?
@johnmoney910
@johnmoney910 7 месяцев назад
Thank you
@imakethingies7958
@imakethingies7958 6 месяцев назад
Great videos. Really cleared things up for me! I'm wondering if playing both tracks at once and inverting one of them would help further demonstrate what part of the signal is being altered by the impedance mismatch. I worked on VSTs a while back and am now starting to learn the analog world. This will be fun to experiment with! Thanks for the videos!
@migalito1955
@migalito1955 Год назад
Interesting. I took up stringed instrument making in my retirement and recently decided to add an integrated pre-amp/power-amp to my list of made in the shop items. Being my first pre-amp I kept the pre-amp based construction simple by not including tone controls. Also not wanting to make major cutouts in any of my nylon stringed instruments or change the saddle height I assembled a three disc array of piezo transducers that I hotglued to the soundboard under the bridge with a 1/4 jack mounted in the tailblock. The first trial was shocking in it had nearly no low end and sounded like crap squared. A check of the piezo disc used showed that it did not even come close to having a flat frequency response or output across the audio interval where in a sense it placed all its output weight at the high frequencies. I did plug the instrument into a factory made instrument amp that has tone controls and with bass emphasized I could make the pickups I installed sound OK but still not great. So, to salvage this first adventure in electrifying an acoustic instrument I decided to build a simple passive 3 band equalizer that I aim to place in line between the transducer output and the pre-amp. The equalizer is simply a high pass filter, low pass filter, and band or interval filter in parallel with each other and each having a 10k linear potentiometer at the filters output to adjust volume with. I remember the bands being as less than 80 hz, 80-3400 hz, and above 3400 hz. Hopefully this works well enough and once the parts come in the mail next week it will not take too long to find out.
@alderaudio
@alderaudio Год назад
I can relate very well as I have worked on this exact type of project several years ago and had similar experiences. Do you know the input impedance of the preamp you constructed? It should be at least a megohm. Piezo discs can sound fantastic if used correctly. I am a fan of the "till preamp", which is very easy to wire up, though you do need to order the correct JFET and bias it. I'd imagine you built something similar? Here's a link: www.till.com/articles/GuitarPreamp/
@migalito1955
@migalito1955 Год назад
@ALDER AUDIO I had at first experimented with an lm741 using a dual power supply in both inverted and non-inverted configurations until I had a fair understanding of what was occurring with respect to using an op-amp as a small signal amp; but, I had quite a few lm358 chips laying around and used it while having assumed the input impedance on all op-amps was essentially infinite. After hearing the sound as I had built it, I did more or less sweep the audio spectrum using my old analog scope with the same type piezo element I used for sending the signal to the scope. Oh, yea, no wonder. There was a hundred fifty milli-amp difference between 100 hz and 400 hz and it only got worse the higher the frequency . I find the fun to be in the adventure so It has been fun experimenting and learning along the way and I don't plan on stopping. Thanks for the link and I will definitely look at using this next.
@migalito1955
@migalito1955 Год назад
I think that what your saying in your impedance series coincides with what I saw when I used a piezo disc with my scope to see the differences in voltage detected by the scope as I swept from low to high frequencies that were induced in the piezo disc.. Ie, low frequencies can be thought of as high impedance which I think is the basis for Steve Klein separating the bridge on his guitars into a section for the three bass strings and another for the three treble strings. I always tend to think of high to low impedance mismatch as a small spinning gear trying to mesh with another larger spinning gear and transfer the power of one to the other. Assuming the small gear to be high impedance by it outputting less power than a large spinning gear the result is like trying to move a car from a dead stop by stomping on the gas when the transmission is in 5th gear. It just fails to work and stalls the car. Hopefully, my little passive equalizer idea at least evens out the outputs of the three bands so that my instruments don't sound like they are in a can coming thru a 1 inch tweeter via a telephone line. But, I do look forward to, as the next experiment, trying the 'Till' preamplifier you sent me the link to.
@AnthonyDunstan
@AnthonyDunstan 9 месяцев назад
awesome
@PoloABD
@PoloABD 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I noticed when you plug a guitar straight into a mixer without a DI, it sounds slightly twangy and lifeless. To be honest though, for live situations like an open mic, with a fairly low quality PA, it never really seemed too much of a difference. Recording is different of course.
@FBl
@FBl Год назад
I have no idea why RU-vid recommended this video to me but ngl you kinda cute ☺️
@MaxoticsTV
@MaxoticsTV 8 месяцев назад
Interesting videos! I learned something! Thanks! But if I may quibble. You start out with V = IZ (or V = IR). This formula is meaningless if either V or I, voltage or current, equals 0. So when you talk about "reflecting" voltage you could as correctly say "reflecting" current. There isn't one without the other. Sure, the amount of current you need to draw to measure voltage may be exceedingly small, but YOU MUST draw it. Further, in the end, it is current, not voltage (which is potential) that drives everything. You say that the ADC measures voltage but that's only because you choose to look at the V and not the I. You can't have one without the other. Therefore, you choosing voltage is arbitrary. And it leads to misunderstandings, in my view. What we want is enough voltage (potential) to generate the current (energy changes over time) to do everything. Naturally, the more potential (voltage) we have the better. That's why you focus on voltage, as we all do. BUT the truth is we always start with low voltages with microphones. That makes it very difficult to amplify them without losing fidelity (in my view, current, not voltage drives an ADC). In the transition from low voltage(current) to higher voltage(current), we must favor something in that energy transfer (in a preamp). In a sense, we draw the current (not the voltage) from a mic and create a higher voltage to create another current later. Would be curious to hear your thoughts. Your first video was great. But I feel if you clean/clear up some of your references to voltages and currents you can make an even better one. If you disagree with anything I wrote please let me know! THANKS!
@alderaudio
@alderaudio 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for this thoughtful engagement with these videos! I appreciate it. First off, you have rightly identified something I always felt a bit uncomfortable with in the first video in my desire to make it more conceptual and accessible. Yes absolutely you cannot reflect voltage or current without the other. When I kind of wave my hands a bit at that part in the video and say something like, reality is a bit more complicated - that point is directly what I'm most thinking about. I still think it is a helpful way to think about the concept, but yes, imperfect to the more complicated reality. However, regarding current driving everything - this is certainly true when you have an active signal driving something like speaker cone, but not in the case of, for simplicity's sake, a FET based input stage. The input on a FET works entirely off of voltage. So for example you can have two signals coming in at the same voltage but different currents, and the amplified signal will come out at the same voltage and current. So if you lose current at the input, you don't lose anything at the output, but if you lose voltage at the input your FET output drops. That's what I'm getting at. Let me know what you think, as I know I do not have a perfect understanding of all this either!
@MaxoticsTV
@MaxoticsTV 8 месяцев назад
@@alderaudio Agree, it's all relative; that is, if you have a large voltage relative to the current you're drawing you can get away with most anything--a point you make in these video. I have some controversial videos on my YT channel which, at bottom, is how analog is becoming a lost art/science and the manufacturers of equipment are trying to make out that digital this or that can fix anything. I focus on the 32-bit float utter BS. As a builder of mics, you must know better than anyone, that "wanting" is not the same as "getting" when it comes to capturing sound. No amount of digital whatever is going to give you a big fat voltage/current from a microphone (unless they're helped out with an input voltage ;) ) Because of this, the stuff you talk about MATTERS. But too many people seem to believe these problems have been solved once and for all. I wish ;) Anyway, I discovered you from someone commenting on Dave Rat's video. Keep the ANALOG truth alive!!!
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