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What does the second derivative actually do in math and physics? 

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Happy Quantum Day! :) In this video we discover how we can understand the second derivative geometrically, and we derive a few physical relations using this intuition.
Link to the HQI Blog and their Quantum Shorts Contest: www.hqi-blog.com/contest
Derivation of Laplacian equal to average over sphere in 3D: isis2.cc.oberlin.edu/physics/...
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@quantumsensechannel
@quantumsensechannel Месяц назад
Hi everyone! A quick note: At 7:55 and onwards, there should be a vector sign over the input of the function: f(vector{x}), since now whenever we are talking about 3 dimensions, the input to the function is a coordinate in 3D space. Apologies for any mild confusion! I remember I used to dislike when my professors would lazily forget to write vector symbols - but years later it seems I have become what I once despised, whoops. Hope you all enjoyed the video! -QuantumSense
@luke2642
@luke2642 Месяц назад
It's a great video, but perhaps the visual and conceptual leap from 1D, a line plotted on a 2D graph, to a 3D scalar field was slightly glossed over? You covered it with the leap from charge density to scalar field potential but maybe just one more slide and line would have smoothed it over :-)
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 28 дней назад
Very nice. I want to say that intuition is one facet one can apply to physics but very tough to apply to mathematics. But your explanation is fantastic where I also thought of many things concerning math intuitively. So, I want to say something about your clip with a point inside of the sphere where you call that point as something tangible. I can hold a sphere in my hands such as a basketball but I can never hold a point because a point has no dimension. So, when I see a point in your video I see a small sphere inside a big sphere which may be very misleading for viewers. A point having no dimension quantitatively is appropriately called x naught because is has no value. So, when you take a limit as dx goes to 0 and once the limit is reached we can only imagine that the limit has been exhausted at point zero qualitatively because at that point there is no dimension. And I have always thought that such points should have a separate notation for something imaginable and not real such as the wave function psi which is not a real wave. So, that's what my intuition tells me about points. Also, in your video you state at 8:58 minute that you showed the 3D case about the second derivative where the first case was in 1D. No, the first case is in 2D because you operate as x and f(x) which means you show a function in 2D displayed on x and y axes.
@raajnivas2550
@raajnivas2550 26 дней назад
​@@user-ky5dy5hl4dAgree with you. If I may suggest: Intuition is a guide to imagination of how the reality exists. Imagination is each person's view, and when we all concur using the precision of mathematics, then we are realigning our imagination to reality with precision. And when we accept internally this as TRUE, it becomes our intuitive perception, and an almost perfected view of reality. Then we take another step forward. It is why mathematics is precise, but Intuition is still learning based on existing knowledge.
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 23 дня назад
@@raajnivas2550 Intuition + logic. Agree?
@NewCalculus
@NewCalculus 21 день назад
@@user-ky5dy5hl4d Intuition is what idiots use. Look up that word!
@tiagoreisalves4480
@tiagoreisalves4480 Месяц назад
Return of the King
@Orillians
@Orillians Месяц назад
yes sirrrr W
@ianweckhorst3200
@ianweckhorst3200 Месяц назад
The two towers >:)
@vinniepeterss
@vinniepeterss Месяц назад
😂😂
@user-vq3lk
@user-vq3lk Месяц назад
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@ayuballena8217
@ayuballena8217 23 дня назад
yep
@charlie_0823
@charlie_0823 29 дней назад
I never understood why there was all this talk in my classes about the second derivative/laplacian being related to an average value, but no actual calculation/explanation was ever provided. Thank you so much for doing god’s work! 🙏
@jaw0449
@jaw0449 24 дня назад
You did an entire physics degree without being shown? Not even in QM? Huh
@NormanWasHere452
@NormanWasHere452 7 дней назад
@@jaw0449 I'm in the same boat actually
@jaw0449
@jaw0449 7 дней назад
@@NormanWasHere452 you should go to your profs and and ask for derivations, then. That, or they’re expecting you to do the derivations on your own. No physics program should ever just give formulas (unless freshman courses)
@krupt5995
@krupt5995 Месяц назад
LET'S GO DUDE. I got an 9/10 in quantum mechanics I thanks to you
@aquaishcyan
@aquaishcyan Месяц назад
how it's only been an hour since the vid's upload
@lux5164
@lux5164 Месяц назад
@@aquaishcyanother videos
@squidwarg
@squidwarg 28 дней назад
nice profile pic
@krupt5995
@krupt5995 28 дней назад
@@squidwarg you too
@user-vt4bz2vl6j
@user-vt4bz2vl6j Месяц назад
You're back! Edit: Changed the course of history from talking about his back, to the fact that he is back. You are welcome.
@arunsevakule
@arunsevakule 22 дня назад
This is one of the finest educational videos I've ever come across! Please never stop making them!!
@sarveshpadav2881
@sarveshpadav2881 Месяц назад
The video content was quite insightful! Thanks for the upload. I hope you'll continue to do so in the future.
@jacoblampmatthiessen9862
@jacoblampmatthiessen9862 Месяц назад
Thank you! For this very clear and intuitive explanation. This view really helps seeing the very deep philosophical connection to notions and axioms of locality in mathematical models. And it also makes the connections between wave equations and continuity equations very intuitive! ❤
@Danielle-ew1el
@Danielle-ew1el 21 день назад
your narrative style is absolutely captivating!
@vikrantsingh6001
@vikrantsingh6001 27 дней назад
really glad you returned , i was really fed by watching your videos on repeat , finally some new content
@ajejebrazor4936
@ajejebrazor4936 Месяц назад
Thank you! What a great video! Multiple insights and new visualisations.
@gengormacsgo3647
@gengormacsgo3647 29 дней назад
Hope there‘s a lot more to come from your channel! Love your work!
@pekorasfuturehusband
@pekorasfuturehusband Месяц назад
YOU’RE BACK!!! This is what we’ve all been waiting for, welcome back king 🙏🏻
@MrFtriana
@MrFtriana Месяц назад
Great! The Schrödinger equation is postulated in many texts and one form to derivate it is using the path integral formalism, but you give a good argument about why it have the form that we know.
@viktorvegh7842
@viktorvegh7842 26 дней назад
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@constilad006
@constilad006 Месяц назад
Welcome back bro
@NormanWasHere452
@NormanWasHere452 6 дней назад
This is such a great video, can't believe I've never looked at the second derivative like this. I'll definitely go and watch your series on quantum!
@slixeee
@slixeee Месяц назад
HE'S BACKKKK
@TheYoutubeFreak
@TheYoutubeFreak 23 дня назад
Hi, I found your channel just yesterday. I did check out all your videos. I don't know how to express my love and respect towards you. I'm an undergrad student from Bangladesh. I am really interested in quantum computing. I want to learn more. And your channel seems to be a great resource for people like me. Keep up good work.
@LucasVieira-ob6fx
@LucasVieira-ob6fx Месяц назад
I've already read about how Laplacian can be interpreted as the difference between a point and the average of its vicinity, but your visuals nicely complement that picture. Nice work!
@erikhicks6184
@erikhicks6184 8 дней назад
I think that's true if all second derivatives. After all, that's all a laplacian is. If I remember correctly, with scalars there is only one meaningful second derivative, but for vectors, 3 can be formed by permitting curl, div, and grad.
@blisard2648
@blisard2648 14 дней назад
mate youve killed this video! Such a complex idea explained so concisely
@RezaJavadzadeh
@RezaJavadzadeh 24 дня назад
wow i just found gold(en content) in this channel! thank you so much keep making more this is amazing
@pluton_7139
@pluton_7139 Месяц назад
THE KING HIMSELF RETURNED! (thx for good video btw)
@logician1234
@logician1234 Месяц назад
Excelent video, it really gave me a new perspective on the second derivative. I wonder why the third, and other higher order derivatives are so rare in physics compared to the first and second...
@shivamvalecha21
@shivamvalecha21 25 дней назад
Great work man :) don't stop to make videos its really helpful !!
@JUNGELMAN2012
@JUNGELMAN2012 25 дней назад
I feel so proud of being able to follow your lecture!
@rudypieplenbosch6752
@rudypieplenbosch6752 21 день назад
Never heard this way of thinking about the 2nd derivative, provides great insigt, thank you.
@TheFireBrozTFB
@TheFireBrozTFB Месяц назад
As a physics major, you are carrying my ass through QM and modern physics. Cheers! You’re amazing!!
@varunahlawat169
@varunahlawat169 27 дней назад
Bro what have you made! Beautiful!
@MikeT10101
@MikeT10101 Месяц назад
Excellent video. Thank you!
@TurinBeats
@TurinBeats 18 дней назад
Honestly I hate math, mostly because I was forced to cram formulas to pass exams. But this video opened my eyes to the practicality of it, now I love math a little bit more. So thank you, currently binge watching your playlist on Math for QT.
@erikhicks6184
@erikhicks6184 8 дней назад
You were forced?
@MathPro0
@MathPro0 26 дней назад
Nice bro , that was actually great (also inspired me to create a video on some qm topic ) Thanks bro Keep making these type of videos
@nDreaw12
@nDreaw12 Месяц назад
Nice Video as always!
@lofturbjarni9274
@lofturbjarni9274 Месяц назад
Glad you're back.
@imPyroHD
@imPyroHD 29 дней назад
Fantastic upload, maybe a series on second quantization in the future like your first one on QM?
@raajnivas2550
@raajnivas2550 26 дней назад
Thanks for the simplified version of seeing QP
@SethTheOrigin
@SethTheOrigin 11 дней назад
This is an great video. I have a BSc in Mathematics, and I never knew about this
@eamonnsiocain6454
@eamonnsiocain6454 Месяц назад
Excellent! Thank you.
@frankmanismyname1147
@frankmanismyname1147 25 дней назад
No way. I actually understood everything. Thank you man
@paulodallacosta1062
@paulodallacosta1062 25 дней назад
Sensacional!! Fascinante!!! Congratulations from Brazil
@hetmanfoko
@hetmanfoko Месяц назад
That's what I least expected. Thank you.
@mzg147
@mzg147 День назад
Loved the video! You are really an amazing presenter. One thing that I *will* bite the bullet for is calling Laplacian *the real* second derivative in 3 dimensions. The full second derivative is really a bilinear form, also represented as the 3x3 matrix (hessian) of all possible second order partial derivatives, which the laplacian is just the trace of. There are other second order differential operators that you could get from it.
@rachidbz01
@rachidbz01 26 дней назад
We missed u bro !! Welcome back
@tanvirhossainfahim7025
@tanvirhossainfahim7025 28 дней назад
Please make more and more videos on Physics and Math.❤️
@paulaborges7726
@paulaborges7726 Месяц назад
Omg the legend is back😭👏
@parkerstroh6586
@parkerstroh6586 Месяц назад
1 minute in and I’ve already liked and subbed!
@larianton1008
@larianton1008 Месяц назад
wow, what, an upload? big fan
@ayush77647
@ayush77647 24 дня назад
Legendary Vid broooo Just WOWWW🙌🙌👌👌
@gamedevrony158
@gamedevrony158 25 дней назад
Love to see you using manim
@user-vq3lk
@user-vq3lk Месяц назад
You're back🎉🎉🎉
@prathameshpatil0810
@prathameshpatil0810 9 часов назад
Great Video! Appreciate the effort you take in explaining all these things to enthusiasts! Must have been a lot of effort in the editing as well, Could you please tell me which tool/platform do you use to edit videos like these with equations and numbers flowing around the screen? I would love to create something similar very soon!
@scarlet0017
@scarlet0017 22 дня назад
free education for a guy like me who can't pursue physics due to the conflict in Manipur and now here in hyderabad getting a free education for ba course hahaha
@sidheart7447
@sidheart7447 День назад
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@skippdiddly1409
@skippdiddly1409 5 дней назад
Wow. I'm not so good with math yet this is insightful. Kudos
@alexgoldhaber1786
@alexgoldhaber1786 27 дней назад
A beautiful lesson indeed.
@JonnyMath
@JonnyMath Месяц назад
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@Raphoo-doodles
@Raphoo-doodles 27 дней назад
Wowow so much calculus lore!!!😳😳😳 Great video ❤️❤️
@lolmanthecat
@lolmanthecat Месяц назад
YOU ARE BACK!
@_cyantist
@_cyantist Месяц назад
10 mins ago? welcome back!
@shuvro6358
@shuvro6358 29 дней назад
As a 15 year old.All of this looks so cool!
@DeJay7
@DeJay7 Месяц назад
Ah, another Feynman enthusiast, I see! Really, he was just an incredible person, every person who ever had the chance to be taught by him was blessed. And, of course, great video, and very much needed for a lot of people who passionately care about these things.
@mitchellhayman381
@mitchellhayman381 24 дня назад
Most physicists admire Feynman second to only Newton himself. He represents the joyful genius and the spirit of scientific curiosity
@larrywildman4381
@larrywildman4381 22 дня назад
As I said in another comment, I saw the same concept in "a treatise on electricity and magnetism" by Maxwell, vol I, pag 29 .... so, I don't think was a feynman's idea.
@AllemandInstable
@AllemandInstable Месяц назад
no way ! was waiting for it
@mr.thermistr9903
@mr.thermistr9903 Месяц назад
He is back!!!!!! 🔥
@elementare.
@elementare. Месяц назад
Finally you came back :)
@asifalamgir5135
@asifalamgir5135 Месяц назад
Our Quantum Sensei is here!!!
@Downlead
@Downlead Месяц назад
Wow, a new video after 9 months. I miss you Bro..
@kimchi_taco
@kimchi_taco 27 дней назад
The heat equation is twice differentiated in space and once differentiated in time because it accurately captures the dynamics of averaging over spacetime. Twice differentiating in space can be intuitively explained by Feynman's ball average approach. The rate of change towards the average is represented by the Laplacian. I believe that the single differentiation in time is due to the fact that heat changes are only affected by the past. Since the present is not affected by the future, only the rate of change in one direction is considered in time, resulting in a single differentiation.
@larrywildman4381
@larrywildman4381 22 дня назад
Look at "a treatise on electricity and magnetism" by Maxwell, vol I, pag 29 .... not Feynman's approach. It was well known before Feynman.
@MsTrueEnigma_
@MsTrueEnigma_ 29 дней назад
Welcome back!
@foobar-xh5gs
@foobar-xh5gs 24 дня назад
I can't grasp the physics part coz lack of relating knowledge, but the second derivative part really amazed me, didn't think about how it related with average.
@mn-lc7em
@mn-lc7em 17 часов назад
Ancient greeks have used intuition and reasons If you know space ecuation, the first der is speed and second is acceleration. So second der is the dynamic of the function. Your demionstration is excelent model. Cong.
@ominollo
@ominollo Месяц назад
Interesting take 🙂 The video from Feynman, which one is it? Or what was his lecture about?
@khiemgom
@khiemgom Месяц назад
FINALLY HES BACK
@whatitmeans
@whatitmeans 29 дней назад
nice video: I think the big question for a folowing video is this one: How this "averaging" intuition of the 2nd derivative is related to the "aceleration" intuition of the 2nd derivative when time is the studied variable?
@shortmoviemedia7068
@shortmoviemedia7068 Месяц назад
You are changing the world ♾️
@zaccandels6695
@zaccandels6695 26 дней назад
Excellent video
@kuldeepparashar7266
@kuldeepparashar7266 25 дней назад
Super information thanks sir
@mohammadsajadyazdanbakhshi7388
@mohammadsajadyazdanbakhshi7388 18 дней назад
I like it so much and it's very good.
@Primarch-Arlian
@Primarch-Arlian Месяц назад
I now know what happens when I 《f》around and find out. Thank you!
@sp0_od597
@sp0_od597 Месяц назад
4:35 I always thought that arround = indout. Perhaps they are equal
@EagerLearner23
@EagerLearner23 19 дней назад
This reminds me if my Numerical Analysis class in undergrad...good times!
@apolloandartemis4605
@apolloandartemis4605 Месяц назад
We missed you!
@bronzeplayer3930
@bronzeplayer3930 Месяц назад
Got a 2/10 on my second QM problem set. Ended with a 100% on the final and just pulled a 100 on a QM2 midterm! Would love more advanced quantum, but you gave me such a good basis :D
@bjornragnarsson8692
@bjornragnarsson8692 29 дней назад
The next step is second quantization - redefining the non-relativistic fixed particle mode to a framework capable of analyzing relativistic many body systems in which the number of particles in a system are no longer fixed. There are quite a few approaches to this, the most common and most utilized framework being quantum field theories appropriate for the different types of fundamental interactions and particle properties. Extending to the Fock space - the Hilbert space completion of the symmetric and antisymmetric tensors in the tensor powers of a single particle Hilbert space is standard to incorporate creation and annihilation operators of quantum states that change the eigenvalues of the number operator by one, analogous to the quantum harmonic oscillator. Something that becomes more important in QFTs. You may have already been introduced to some of the fundamental aspects of this approach, as the natural extension beyond a Junior/Senior undergraduate QM course is the introduction of different QFTs, with particular emphasis on QED.
@5ty717
@5ty717 Месяц назад
Excellent
@nikospitr
@nikospitr Месяц назад
very cool. Thanx !
@fuffalump
@fuffalump 17 дней назад
Nice idea about the average on the ball! But must correct the misleading idea in the QM part - localized particles in position is equivalent to large uncertainty in conjugate (momentum) space, like you said. But this does not translate to necessarily large kinetic energy. The equivalence principle is for the mean of the distribution, and this would be the "classical" kinetic energy of the particle, which does not change due to variance. This explanation was a stretch, but you could explain this exactly with the diffusion equation, which the Schrodinger equation is just a specific case of :)
@baptiste5216
@baptiste5216 Месяц назад
great video !
@bobross9332
@bobross9332 8 дней назад
I think that Feynmann was talking about the Cauchy integral theorem. He stated he didn't need to know the center value just the value on the exterior ball.. that is exactly the Cauchy integral theorem -- you average the surface of the ball and you have the center value
@mostafasaleh5594
@mostafasaleh5594 Месяц назад
Long awaited
@Damn-Age
@Damn-Age Месяц назад
Welcome back, on world quantum day!
@guilhermeviana6089
@guilhermeviana6089 27 дней назад
hey, could you tell me what app you use to make these great videos? thx.
@emilioarguello9786
@emilioarguello9786 Месяц назад
super interesting video
@johncgibson4720
@johncgibson4720 16 дней назад
The Heisenberg intuition with a simple second derivative is very good.
@meaningfulmind
@meaningfulmind 22 дня назад
Even for heat equation, this is the most intuitive tool I've ever used to understand the temperature distribution. What a great explanation. I was wondering how you could understand the Newton's second law using this though.
@kadabrium
@kadabrium День назад
if the distance an object has travelled in the past dt is less than the distance it will travel in the next dt, it means the object is acccelerating
@tincantank5174
@tincantank5174 28 дней назад
I truly wish I knew what he was talking about. We only got up to IROC in high school, so he’s describing a topic that i haven’t even been introduced to.
@klam77
@klam77 23 дня назад
Wicked insight! From feynman!
@adarshprakash7649
@adarshprakash7649 18 дней назад
U got a sub with this one...
@enumeratenz
@enumeratenz Месяц назад
Just a quick observation: States in QM are expressed in terms of a complex vector space. Complex numbers permit expression as 2x2 matricies over a Real number Field. Your first derivative intuition is really just a scaling factor ... the Determinant of a 2x2 matrix gives this scaling factor. The second derivative intuition is like a divergence ... the Trace of a 2x2 matrix is this (for example SL2(R) Lie algebra is 2x2 matricies with zero trace) The Schrodinger equation is fine for doing chemistry. However, I wonder if there is utility in building an intuition of the Dirac equation using your intuition approach and the matrix algebra. I wonder if there is a geometric intuition on the Clifford algebra commutator [A,B] and notions of adjoint and self-adjoint. For example [x,p]=ih/2*pi implies a deBroglie wave equation where lamba=h/p ... I wonder if your intuitive approach could give a deeper understanding of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
@wirelessboogie
@wirelessboogie 27 дней назад
Thanks for the great explanation! You won't get any further in maths if you don't have an intuition for its laws and theoremes, which makes your video especially useful. Shame most manuals in maths don't have this policy being overly formulaic at the cost of intuition. P.S. I'm only slightly confused by you wishing us a quantum day, a superposition of which two states is it supposed to be? haha!
@alexsere3061
@alexsere3061 25 дней назад
Man, I was afraid that you were gonna forget about the heat equation. Using this reasoning it just means "the temperature at a point wants to approximate that of the surrounding points", as in a cold point surrounded by hotter points will get hotter. I think it is the absolute best example of this, because once you explain it like that it becomes trivial.
@anywallsocket
@anywallsocket 29 дней назад
Sure, you can connect connect kinetic energy to the position-momentum conjugate duality, but a better way in my opinion is through the derivatives of the action. Because it's well known that the derivatives of the action wrt a variable are conjugate to that variable. but if you really want to intuit the uncertainty principle, you can just look at the Einstein and deBroglie relations: E=h f and p=h lambda, then you realize the duality is baked into these variables maintaining the constancy of the action, h.
@giornogiovanna5222
@giornogiovanna5222 29 дней назад
I tried to interpret the heat equation and here's what I've got: So, if ∆f>f(x0), it means that heat will go to the x0 And if df/dt>∆f (meaning the change in temperature over time is greater than the difference of temperatures), we will have body heating So, if the change in temperature excesses the difference of temperatures in a neighbourhood of a point, then the body will be heating, because heat will go to this neighbourhood faster than it will distribut I hope I got it right
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