What Faking Cancer Looks Like 

Well detailed video once again, thank you

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Litchhh

lmao same

Actually not same. I am not surprised at all anymore of people doing everything and I mean EVERYTHING to get celebrities' attention. One Direction/Harry Styles was my jump into Kpop beginning with BTS. Since then (early 2020//mid 2021 because I randomly decide to drop the interest and then got into it again) I have heard of numerous stories of Saesang fans being absolutely crazy about their idols to absolute serious crimes. It starts with them deliberately finding out everything, doxxing the stars' locations to Saesang groups such as their homes, flights, what planes they use, where they will arrive and where they plan to go on that trip. Then they completely ignore stuff like personal space and manners and basic human respect and that's why most idols have what looks like 500 securities around them. Idk if you know that clip where Hyunjins(straykids member) securities form a circle around them and hold their hands so no one could get close to him in a one meter range? That's why. That one time around the middle of last year a fan of jungkook sent him food. Him being a literal millionaire he responded to saying publically in a livestream that he does not need food, that he has fridges full of stuff and is rich enough to always supply him with what he needs and if fans want to make him happy through sending food so badly he would be way happier if they send it to actual people in need of food instead. W move btw. That W move coated him his feel of safety though since the fan who sent the food decided okay bro don't want my food so I am just going to kill him. Girl took a video explaining in detail how she is going to kill him, how she is ringing his bell pretending to be some kind of post officer and what exact knife she is going to use to kill him. A week or two later bro was live again doing some average jungkook live shit and then his doorbell rang. He went to the door and looked who it was (by not opening that door) and then he turned on his security system/checked if it's on and continued with the livestream. Since he was really weird, like what you think a man would behave with such a threat directly towards him in mind people to this day speculate if that was actually that girl or if this was just a regular post officer or another fan who found his house and rang to see what happens. Nobody knows but perhaps bro would have been fcking stabbed to death while on a livestream with thousands of people watching if he would have opened that door. That's why I am not surprised at all about what people utilize to get closer to their idols.

never thought I'd watch a true crime style essay that begins with One Direction loge

I mean I never thought I would be 30 and still unable to live without room mates comfortably despite working a full time job but hey... Weird shit happens.

I mean hate to be that guy but using the word pills here doesn’t necessarily mean that the liver is the one that metabolizes them. I know it’s in her case but pills generally just isn’t the right word. Really I’m not trying to be a c*nt lol

Yeah... People will say that she was an adult by that point, but people don't know what abuse can do to your mind. She probably felt like there was no other choice. I wouldn't be surprised either, if she believed she was very sick, but was told she had to appear even sicker for the charity and so they could handle the costs of treatment. Nobody would take that much medicine and endure their significant sideeffects and risks, if they don't think they absolutely have to.

Especially Opioid medications. They completely destroy your liver. I'm on opioid meds myself and my liver is being monitored constantly as I'm so young. Her mother absolutely caused her daughters death. She may have technically been an adult, but she was still 100% dependant on her mother and as JuMiKu said, she probably felt she had no other choice. She probably thought her mum was the only person she could trust and the only person who had her back. Poor girl.

@@Lunabyes your opioids meds might have acetaminophen which is very hard on your liver, much more toxic than most opioids are on their own to my knowledge I notice that acetaminophen is seemingly deliberately mentioned many times in this video.

​@@LunabyesOpioids aren't toxic for liver or kidney

​@@Seriousbomb54 It's actually debated if Muchhausen and Munchhausen by proxy should be considered as individual illnesses or just symptoms for other mental illnesses, mainly histrionic personality disorder (a personality disorder in which people desire to receive an unhealthy amount of attention and affection - and may have suicidal thoughts if they are not given) or BPD. Matter of fact is, you can't be mentally healthy if you show munchhausen traits. Nevertheless I agree, the thoughts of Munchhausen may be caused by the illness but the majority of people do the actions on their own volition rather than exercising self-control

Im sorry

I am deeply sorry for the pain you have gone through. For anybody who would love to learn a bit more about MBP in a similar style to fern, I recommend you to check out “The Illness that fakes an Illness” by Wendigoon.

​@@Seriousbomb54 Lot of things mixed up in your comment: 1. Psychological disorders ARE illnesses 2. Just because someone has a mental illness, doesn't mean they won't get punished for their crimes. Your mental illness needs to be so severe, that you genuinely can't see that your behaviour is wrong, or can't act according to it. And in those cases it makes absolutely no sense putting people in prison ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

@@0.1gError depends on your viewpoint of psychology. adler would deny these mental illnesses existing since he sees ppl in the moment rather than in the past like freud and jung. For him there is no trauma. My father is a diploma psychologist and said to me once that both schools are equivalent. so whether these disorders are actually a thing can be up for debate.

Wdym she might have known about it and still did it. we dont and prob will never know

@@gyd1714seeing as she was 13 when it started, prob not..

@@felixsfriendthatgavehimthe2108 yeah maybe but at the Same time in the Video they mention how she was a Fan of the band and wanted to See Them Bad.

“Hey Meg, do you want me to take you to see 1D & Disney??” “Yes please mummy dearest, that’s every 13-year-old’s dream!” “You won’t ever have to go to school again either! Just do [this] and never breathe a word…” Ployed into her mother’s Munchausen’s by promise of reward, and wouldn’t be surprised if it were punishment on the other end of the spectrum if Meg didn’t do what she was told-therefore does what she’s told & enjoys the reward from it. Cases like these have soooo much nuance, but imo it is never a minor’s fault when they’re growing up in custody of the mentally ill person; though in Meg’s case, I’m pretty sure starting at 13 you would know enough right from wrong to know this is a _huge_ wrong, and by 18 (or whatever age she could legally leave the house for good) she should/would have left the abusive household-to continue the deception as a legal adult is where I personally find fault & complacency in her. Also I don’t much to go on, but had her 4 older siblings _ever_ tried to help her out of there?? Quite worrying especially when a sister discusses how they knew pretty well what was up & even made betting games out of it-their mother definitely poisoned their sister and I hope they don’t live with a guilty conscience had they truly done all they could.

@@gyd1714 if my mom said it was okay and I got to go see BTS for example, 13 year old me would probably not see the problem. Children trust that their parents know what’s best for them. And she more than likely thought she was sick.

Welp.. That's quite the understatement. And I'm only halfway in.

Yup!

What a tricky one. On one hand, it’s disgusting that someone would fake something so serious to profit themselves & steal money from actually suffering people who really need it. But on the other hand.. how fucking cool would it be to just ball outta control at Disney for 4 months?! 😐

Was it?

@@DeltaNovumOng

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It's the sad truth in reality.

I think sometimes the bigger the the lie, the more willing ppl are to believe it. We just don't automatically assume someone can be that awful.

@@Theunicorn2012 lmao did you copy and paste in the wrong spot 🤣

its a phsycological efect. The bigger the lie the more people that will believe it

I do not blame the poor child. She was abused and manipulated by her mother into this life for YEARS. I am disgusted by the mother, but not the daughter, she was also a victim here.

as a child i felt guilty when a i feel like a could go to school, because my mildly unwell was not enough to stop, but my mother agreeing with me to get the day off was such temptation, still AS A CHILD with my mother agreeing,.. i felt bad. (Being manipulated as a child I understand, but a 30 year old woman without a mind of her own, I would have to have followed the story personally and very closely to try to say if she was really a mere victim.) But we all certainly agree that the mother is to blame, even if i dont know if the daughter is also or not.

Telling people you're sick to get out of school is very different from Münchhausen by proxy. She's been noceboed into being sicker her entire life.

I've always felt guilty whenever I've faked a little illness to get out of a day of work or something but doing something like faking cancer…… 😅

This is called Munchausen syndrome by proxy - when someone else (the mother) claims that another person (the daughter) has some sort of an illness, even though they don't. It can be super scary, imagine getting surgeries and medication you don't need...

indeed, that is like a pill for every 10 minutes awake, that would be absolutely horrible

As a cancer patient myself, that was so fishy

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepI hope everything’s alright

Perhaps not 100, but before my dad passed from pancreatic cancer he was on dozens of pills a day. Probably 30-40 at a guess.

yeah at that point you'd likely be hospitalized and have drugs administered by IV. I don't think any doctor/hospital would ever give someone that many pills to take daily

There is something bout the 40s that makes people drop dead, like my parrents attended loads of funerals durning that time. strokes, heart attacs, cancers. and then it just slows down at the 50s. probably just confirmation bias but a interesting and horrifying thing

i love him. what a poor lad, he’s gone through so much but he’s so strong ❤ he doesn’t deserve it

​@@lukeonuke I noticed that too, there is so many cases of people age 40-50 that die of the things you listed and after the 50th birthday mark it just slows down.

@@marst91I know very little about them as musicians, but Louis and Harry both seem like spectacular people. Can’t say the same for Zayn and Liam, unfortunately.

Awwww booo hooo. Shitty people at best.

i’ve also suffered from IIH a couple years ago. It was constant suffering, I couldn’t eat anything because i would throw up, i couldn’t sleep because of the pain. I had double vision and couldn’t stand to have more than one eye opened at the time. I couldn’t be on my feet or ride cars because I would throw up. I was in constant paint and by the time I had a spinal tap I was begging for anyone to bring me out of my misery. so it might not kill you. but discomfort is the last word i would use to describe it as

I also had IIH a couple of years ago and was scanned for a brain tumor because half of the cases are caused by that. So the beginning definitely did not seem far fetched. A little further down the road however...

Maybe it depends on each case? I have IIH (now treated) it was so bad that I lost my vision from Papilodeama (can't spell it!) and lost some of my hearing with pulsatile tinnitus as well (which hasn't gone) but while they were certainly bad I don't remember the headaches being awful. But maybe I've blocked it out!😅 Edit: just got to that part of the video, I see why you commented that now, it makes IIH sound slightly bothersome rather than extremely debilitating (whether it be from pain or other symptoms)

It is obvious since the pressure is so high…

IIH CAN KILL YOU. Please please please do not say that this disease "won't kill someone." It's not common but if I hadn't refused to leave the ER it would've killed me. My time from spinal tap to unconscious open on the operating table was just half an hour it was so serious.

I’m sorry. Sending hugs your way ❤

@@tabithaj8034 thank you kindly my friend

Pray God helps you

@@seanm3189 no thanks.. I don’t believe in god.. but thank you for the well wishes my friend

@@MichaelBrown-me3bhthat’s so horrible. Not sure what to say. I hope life has still been worthwhile for you, and that you’re able to survive by some twist of fate, however unlikely.

Why would the hospitals disclose information about him anyways?? Thats protected under the law. Unless if he’s under 18.

@jclive2860 well I'd imagine he has a next of kin that would be able to get information like that, more than likely someone in his family was his contact. I forgot to mention that he basically told us all he was going in for a surgery on his tumour. I think he realised he couldn't keep the sharade up forever so he thought this would be a good end to it, but it just made his lies more obvious to us all. Plus, one of my friends saw under his bandages and there was nothing there which basically solidified what his family had said about not finding any record of him for the surgery. He blew it all up for himself in the end really but it left us all feeling a bit traumatised.

@@tarasteward4797that is pretty funny though it was a great joke on his part.

​@@tarasteward4797Nope, not in the US at least. Unless the hospital has a signed release form from the patient themselves, they cannot disclose any information to anyone. Not even family members. It's federal law (HIPAA). The only other way to obtain someone else's medical records is via a legal subpoena, and even then they have to ask for specific information. If you just call a hospital and ask if any given person is a patient there, they legally have to say that they can neither confirm nor deny that that person is a patient.

​@@codedestroy680 Bait used to look believable

I cant imagine how scary that operation was but am happy you’ve shared this here and hope you are doing well today.

We don’t have any proof from you either so maybe you are just making it up 🧐

How was it idiopathic if they knew at the time it was caused by a brain tumour?

IIH is by definition only diagnosable with a structurally normal contrast enhanced MRI of the brain (aside from secondary changes due to the cerebrospinal fluid hypertension).

Glad it wasn't Lupus

I suffer from too much empathy to be able to watch this.

​@@noanyobiseniss7462that empathy is gonna get you in trouble one of these days, try to reduce it just a little

@@ZomboidMania Friendly food for thought: That kind of empathy could save your life someday.

​@@ZomboidMania@sarappreciates so it's just a question of perspective huh, your inner voice forms your world

I'm not spoling anything, but I will say for those of you who don't usually watch this stuff, watch the whole thing. I ate it up. Thanks fern!

It is definitely a case of Munchausen by proxy, I'm so sorry this happened to you :(

i hope you’re doing much better now. it’s awful you had to go through, and i hope you’ve been able to find a support system to help you heal.

I mean, as far as i understood it, it's a mental disorder, right? So it's not really their choice. I'm not saying that this justifies these actions, but I also think that it's possible to help these people, so they stop doing this.

I celebrated my 20th birthday in PET/CT scan machine thingy. It started with going for xray because i thought i had damaged lungs from covid. I found out that i had hodgkins lymphoma, next day i was already in hospital and the day after i went there again for the scan and sample. Then it went so fast, the chemotherapies and stuff. After 3 or so months the disease was gone. Now after that i dont understand even more why someone would willingly choose to fake something like this, even to her daughter.

@@FranzGudoesn’t matter. Someone can’t unalive other people due to a mental disorder, that’s still homicide. P*Sophocles have same argument, not an excuse and it’s still deplorable. Same idea.

​@@FranzGu but it definitely is their choice. You can act on your disorders or get help. It's not that these people don't know that what they are doing is hurting their children, they choose to do it. Mental illnes doesn't force you to do certain things

​@@FranzGu but it definitely is their choice. You can act on your disorders or get help. It's not that these people don't know that what they are doing is hurting their children, they choose to do it. Mental illness doesn't force you to do certain things

This is gonna be insane. Great production, as always Fern!

I love these animations!! They are so unique

It kind of reminds me of the game Lethal Company

Whats fucked up is that several cases of Munchausens and M-by proxy, especially online, they don't take the money, they do donate it - it's all for attention. They aren't there to drain the finances, but emotional energy.

You should thank the Lord Jesus Christ for the life He gave you, turn to Him and you will live forever after this short life is over, like everyone else has and will, you too will pass away, then what?

Yes, yes. This story was all about you. I can feel it.

Right? Like, I have an autoimmune disease (ETA: just one at that, power to you with multiple my friend and best wishes 🙏) and the associated comorbid syndromes, and I also take a fair few meds. I take 6 twice a day, and 9 supplements only because my condition has gifted me with bonus anemia/deficiencies, and it's hard to do! Like, it's legitimately logistically difficult to incorporate these different pills with their different meal and water needs and the supplements with the same... I can't imagine 100. It would be my entire existence, just trudging through a careful regimen of pills and food, I would need a carer just for that. I had to chuckle at that.

@@fortywolves thanks for the well wishes man. I'm actually doing better after 2 years of the seizure disorder, almost at a year no seizure after having 7 in about a year and a half.

to be fair i think she really did take an extreme amount of pills daily considering she got liver disease severe enough to stop her heart, its just that obviously she didnt need to take those pills nor that many, entirely possible 80% of the pills she took was opioids.

@@Rukushin yes but she was still abusing those for no reason

Can’t imagine how angry I’d be if I actually suffered from something so serious while a family fakes suffering & massively profits from it as the rest of us struggle to get by

lol “sick so low” is good work

Other people's medical records can't be checked, they're protected by law.

Just as crazy is that people will give death threats to people with cancer, like in the roblox situation.

Bro's time travelling here....

@@neelg7057 Bro thinks it's 2034

@@pranaav2027 isnt it 2034 ??

​@@slackclient wait I thought it was 1934.....

100000%

You did NOT finish a 18min video in 3

Thanks for the spoiler 😭

Why does your linguistic tone sound like a 50-60 year old woman

The old RU-vid channels that were narrated with Sims characters?

Bro it was uploaded 4 hours before U commented WHO would it have alot of Views 4

lol babe it’s not even a day

hate that theres no „haha“ 😂 react on YT-comments.

​@@Mauzibaerthere's a 👎🏻 but it may as well not exist seeing as it's useless

kinda reminds me of disrupt (with less of the psychedelic mushrooms)

Ich hätt nur gern die deutsche Version

kommt in paar wochen auf simplicisimus

@@Slim9867 wer sagt das?

@@maestro3887 naja es ist oft so das die englischen videos dann nochmal auf deutsch kommen

@@Slim9867 Vergleich doch mal die Videos von Simli und fern miteinander. Das stimmt überhaupt nicht

People are stupid

Generally, it happens, maybe it's just that the word "tentacles" itself seems unprofessional. My friend died of brain cancer, and as the doctors told her mother, the tumor had "sprouted" into her brain, as if it had taken "roots".

Exactly. Its very disgusting that they would do that.