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What Happened to French Soldiers During WW2? | Animated History 

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Goubert, Pierre. The Course of French History. 1st edition. Milton: Routledge, 1991.
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Stahel, David. Joining Hitler’s Crusade: European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941. Cambridge University Press, 2017.
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@TheArmchairHistorian
@TheArmchairHistorian 5 месяцев назад
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@Turkpatriotantalia
@Turkpatriotantalia 5 месяцев назад
IT would have been nice If you mentioned the Mass killing of black french soldiers by the Wehrmacht in 1940, good Video though
@GenghisKhan-bi6rd
@GenghisKhan-bi6rd 5 месяцев назад
Tell me what is the soundtrack your using in this video?
@rockyeet699
@rockyeet699 5 месяцев назад
Ad End Point is 4:11.
@misterthemad994
@misterthemad994 5 месяцев назад
Small correction about Alsace-Lorraine ; while it is true that at least at the time most people in those regions could speak German fluently, they are not exactly german speaking ; after 1918 (when they became part of France again), people in those regions stopped speaking german as a primary language, in that role they either spoke french, or their own local "patois", their own local languages that are basically mixes of French, German and language of oïl (medieval latin dialect spoken in the northern half of France in the middle ages).
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 5 месяцев назад
Nicely done video
@Hesopod-w3b
@Hesopod-w3b 5 месяцев назад
De Gaulle sent several pilots to the soviets to create a squadron and fight in the soviet air force. They flew yak 9s and often had the colours of the French flag on the nose of their aircraft.
@nuttygeezer708
@nuttygeezer708 5 месяцев назад
Normandie Nieman
@Hesopod-w3b
@Hesopod-w3b 5 месяцев назад
@@nuttygeezer708 exactly
@griphyx3540
@griphyx3540 3 месяца назад
they're also the only foreign force to have received the medal of hero of the soviet union, which they still have to this day
@hadrienbouchard1762
@hadrienbouchard1762 2 месяца назад
And also the 177 French commandos that participated on D-day
@zoubida90
@zoubida90 5 месяцев назад
Nice to mention also that Jean Moulin, the man who united all the groups of the resistance, got brutally tortured by the SS Klaus Barbie until he eventually died from his wounds and exhaustion. Yet the man never talked... An unsung hero who deserves his own video.
@thatguynexus5935
@thatguynexus5935 5 месяцев назад
my favorite barbie
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 5 месяцев назад
He deserves more than an analytical RU-vid video. Hollywood should make a movie about him.
@zoubida90
@zoubida90 5 месяцев назад
@@theawesomeman9821 Agreed, but Hollywood making a movie about a frenchman who resisted during ww2, not attractive enough for the average american public. For most of them the french never won a war and has this "white flag" stereotype. So unfortunately this would likely not happen
@blueridger28
@blueridger28 5 месяцев назад
​@thatguynex😂us5935
@ABPHistory
@ABPHistory 5 месяцев назад
Klaus Barbie got recruited by the CIA and helped hunt down Che Guevara too
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 5 месяцев назад
The Free French Memorial on Lyle Hill in Greenock, in western Scotland, in the shape of the Cross of Lorraine combined with an anchor was raised by subscription as a memorial to sailors on the Free French Naval Forces vessels that sailed from the Firth of Clyde to take part in the Battle of Atlantic. The memorial is also associated, locally, with the memory of the French destroyer Maille Breeze (1931) which sank at the Tall of the Bank. To this day, General de Gaulle's Appeal of 18 June 1940 remains one of the most famous speeches in French history.
@MrRoady13
@MrRoady13 5 месяцев назад
For all of you history buffs and comics enthusiasts, famous french cartoonist Jacques Tardi made a 3 parts comic book about his father's experience as a tankist during the battle of France, and then his capture and imprisonment in a Stalag in Germany during the totality of the war, up until his liberation and the return to civil life as one of the "defeated ones". It's called "Moi René Tardi, prisonnier de guerre", and it kinda reminded me of "Maus" by Art Spiegelman in its way of mixing up History and the difficult communication between a father and his son
@tangow371
@tangow371 28 дней назад
Yooooo! Never thought I'd see somoene mention Tardi here of all places! I read all three parts of Stalag IIB. A very poignant story, I was taken aback by the bitterness and cynicism of the author and his father. Of course an understandable perspective considering his fathers experiences. He doesn't even hesitate to throw shades at de Gaulle or others like delattre de Tasigny.
@Wojtek760O
@Wojtek760O 5 месяцев назад
My great grandfather was a french soldier during ww2, after the defeat in 1940 the war basically beacame an escape simulator, he escaped german's prisons 5 times, went to see his wife 5 times and got send back to prison 5 times. I only know that one time he rode a cow wile escaping, hell yea.
@Galactic_birds
@Galactic_birds 4 месяца назад
Your great grandfather sounds like an absolute chad
@CouldBeNero
@CouldBeNero 3 месяца назад
Your great grandfather is the story of “The Cow and I” where a frenchman escapes german prison with a cow?
@Wojtek760O
@Wojtek760O 3 месяца назад
@@CouldBeNero maybe not this story especially but yes kinda.
@sharkjack27
@sharkjack27 5 месяцев назад
Smh France just shoulda just loaded a save game
@vault6242
@vault6242 5 месяцев назад
They should've built lvl 5 forts and not guaranteed poland smh
@haikalmiftah2529
@haikalmiftah2529 5 месяцев назад
Love this HOI4 reference 🤣🤣.
@zacoman2225
@zacoman2225 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately they were playing on iron man mode
@pluto9860
@pluto9860 5 месяцев назад
Great video as always.
@Wakizaka_Yasuharu
@Wakizaka_Yasuharu 5 месяцев назад
There are two men that can be blamed for France's surrender that was quicker than the Siege of Pavlov's house, and these are Edouard Daladier and Maurice Gamelin. Daladier for leaving the Czechs at the mercy of the Nazis and Gamelin for his complete failure to invade Germany from the West, while the Germans were fighting in Poland.
@senpainoticeme9675
@senpainoticeme9675 5 месяцев назад
I blame Huntziger directly for the collapse on the defense of the Ardennes. Although both Daladier and Gamelin were culpable in the events leading to the tragic Battle of France, Huntzinger actions were inexplicable on the days preceding and during the Battle of Sedan as the overall commander of the Ardennes sector. He ignored the pleas of his air scouts reporting the huge and long German column opposite the Ardennes. His ground commanders even asked permission to shell the bridges in the Ardennes but they were denied. Not surprising that when France fell, he was an ardent supporter of the Vichy regime.
@jmb2140
@jmb2140 5 месяцев назад
you forget Chamberlain and the English politics of the moment......
@Wakizaka_Yasuharu
@Wakizaka_Yasuharu 5 месяцев назад
@@jmb2140 But the main focus was France, since they had a direct border with Germany, they were an infinitely bigger threat to the Nazis than the UK ever was. Even if the UK dropped its guarantees, the French would've easily mowed down the Germans, let alone while they were banging their heads on the Sudeten Wall of fortifications.
@icu17siberia
@icu17siberia 3 месяца назад
@@Wakizaka_Yasuharu Agree absolutely...with the biggest army in Europe no less
@teanott5073
@teanott5073 5 месяцев назад
Might I recommend the cartoon the long long holiday? It was a French made animated series detailing some of what life us like for the occupied french. How accurate it is I'm unsure but it is definitely a cute little dramatic
@AstroNuggetKOS
@AstroNuggetKOS 5 месяцев назад
I love videos like these because they are educating and fun
@JoeWilikers
@JoeWilikers 5 месяцев назад
Brave Frenchmen. Died where they stood to protect the British evacuation at Dunkirk.
@ismaelfleurine2620
@ismaelfleurine2620 5 месяцев назад
As always, the @TheArmchairHistorian always makes good documentaries. Jumpscare at 0:50 though
@GeneralYen
@GeneralYen 5 месяцев назад
And let's not forget the French Army of Africa, who became the basis for the French armies that operated successfully in Italy (Monte Cassino) and Southern France !
@carta8399
@carta8399 5 месяцев назад
The objectivity of this channel is as usual outstanding. Congratulations for the great work.
@Comandercheez112
@Comandercheez112 5 месяцев назад
Another Great video!
@Julien-yq8ru
@Julien-yq8ru 5 месяцев назад
From a French citizen, thanks you. By the way, your illustration of Jean Moulin lacks a scarf. This is not a small detail. The man was a préfet (a district civil governor) during the invasion. The Germans arrived and raped some women in Moulin's jurisdiction. They asked Jean Moulin to pretend that Senegalese "tirailleurs" had committed those rapes. Moulin refused. The Germans put him in jail. Moulin did not want to concede, but may have been afraid of doing so, so he tried to cut his throat. That is why he allways wore a scarf, to hide his scar. From the two or three hundreds préfets who were at the top of the French administration, he was the only one to refuse the armistice. As a storyteller, you had to make choices. Many French pilots joined the RAF, the Free French played a decisive role in Italy, etc. But these are all details. What is not a detail is the fact that French Resistance was mainly an intelligence network which provided key informations about German deployments. We like to represent them with blazing guns. They were not fighters. They were intellectuels (Camus), poets (Char), workers, students, men and women who risked their lives by sheltering an ally pilot, by listening to the BBC, by expressing their contempt for the occupant. They also started to think about the future of the country, a better democracy, a society with solidarity. That is not a battle with guns, but that is a battle the Resistance won over the Germans, Vichy... and even de Gaulle.
@rjnovak5977
@rjnovak5977 5 месяцев назад
Your so underrated, you need more veiwers
@d34th0dg3r
@d34th0dg3r 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video
@padawanmage71
@padawanmage71 5 месяцев назад
I wonder what became of the fate of the collaborationist Vichy forces after the war? Like the ‘Milice’, who I heard were pretty nasty.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 5 месяцев назад
Pierre Laval, 2nd most powerful guy in Vichy France, became the chief of Police for postwar Paris. His WW2 politics bled into the postwar French police forces and hence gaining the infamous reputation of immediate and disproportional police brutality. American police officers are babies compared to the bloody carnage a French police officer can dish out...
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 5 месяцев назад
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Laval was shot. Maurice Papon, a civil servant who deported Jews around Bordeaux, was the one who became a police chief.
@texenna
@texenna 5 месяцев назад
Nothing, they remained in high positions and they worked with former free french to brutally crackdown in akgeria
@archimedesfromteamfortress2
@archimedesfromteamfortress2 День назад
​@@theotherohlourdespadua1131this is plain misinformation. He was executed for treason in 1945 after a kangaroo trial
@tibsky1396
@tibsky1396 5 месяцев назад
The attack on Mers-el-Kébir also disgusted many French people from fighting alongside the British. And there is also the case of the scuttling of the Toulon fleet in 1942, in order to prevent the Germans from seizing it.
@jameshudkins2210
@jameshudkins2210 5 месяцев назад
They also prevented the Allies / Free French from using it.
@nicolasiiiletzar7984
@nicolasiiiletzar7984 5 месяцев назад
@@jameshudkins2210 Idk man, a few ships actually managed to escape to the allies, while most of the ships were just saborded, but it wasn't necesseraly to prevent allies from taking them, but because there was no other choice (the germans were driving fast towards Toulon to seize the ships, everything had to be done quickly, the allies were only to the other side of the sea, no time)
@charlieOL78
@charlieOL78 5 месяцев назад
You forgot about the army in the North African colonies who was secretly maintained by Vichy under Weygand's command (in unoccupied colonies) and joined the Allies after Torch and the German invasion of south France. In 1943 Giraud took commands until De Gaulle took control of those around 200k soldiers (mostly from Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia) who fought in Italy (decisive action at Monte Cassino) and were the spearhead of the french Army of liberation after Operation Dragoon ! But as "indigenous" those soldiers were progressively dismissed and replaced by white french people for the final blow against Germany in 1945.
@Goc4ever
@Goc4ever 5 месяцев назад
Well done Armchair Historian, well done. I really loved this in-depth discussion of the French soldiers during World War 2, it was a breath of fresh air without all the bias that spoke ill of France and its military history.
@pronosttom3223
@pronosttom3223 4 месяца назад
Merci pour cet hommage, VIVE NOS MORTS ET VIVE LA FRANCE DE SON ÉTERNELLE GRANDEUR ET LIBRE DANS L'HONNEUR ET L'INDÉPENDANCE ❤🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
@gazza2933
@gazza2933 5 месяцев назад
I'm English (not British) and throughout our history we have not always been the best of friends with France. However, unless you have seen active service/combat, perhaps a person shouldn't be too quick to criticise a nation at war. Interesting video. Thank you. 👍
@marcbartuschka6372
@marcbartuschka6372 5 месяцев назад
I want to add that a significant number of the French POW in Germany did not remain in that status for the whole war. Quite some were transfered into "civilian status". That did NOT mean they were free to return home, but become civilian forced workers for the Germans. It had both benefits (they got more money than POW for their work, actually more or less the same as German workers of the same job, had not longer live in confined camps and there was at least for some even the possibility of having the chance to return to France for a time), but also some obvious and some hidden drawbacks (they lost the protection of their Status as POW and could easily be send to work in the arms industry). Of course any act of active or passive resistance or what was seen as such (and the Germans could and would easily classify in many cases a mere mistake as act of resistance) could bring them behind bars - into a German prison or, worse, an "Arbeitserziehungslager" (just for working not "good enough") or even Concentration Camp. As similar thing would happen to the Italien Military Internees of 1943 (who had actually often a much harder fate than many Western Allied POW in the camps of their former German Allies).
@RubberToeYT
@RubberToeYT 5 месяцев назад
Really interesting video, would love to see similar stuff for other occupied countries
@justryane
@justryane 5 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@Bluestripsenclavelove
@Bluestripsenclavelove 5 месяцев назад
Oh sad 0 likes :)
@texenna
@texenna 5 месяцев назад
Underrated
@georgiykhara6917
@georgiykhara6917 5 месяцев назад
“Experienced profound loneliness” yeah, that’s terrifying by WW2 standards)
@bart413
@bart413 5 месяцев назад
Regarding the Alsace - read the Guy Sajer’s Forgotten Soldier (his memoirs) written by a young volunteer from that region who jointed Wehrmacht and was sent on the eastern front.
@KaptifLaDistillerie
@KaptifLaDistillerie 5 месяцев назад
The large majority of those who collaborated were allowed to live free and we still feel the consequences of it today
@altandemei2644
@altandemei2644 Месяц назад
Thanks to the USians and their "upcoming fight against communism", they wasted no time embedding themselves in the political institutions of France once De Gaulle left his provisional position in the government and during the 4th republic you had the american ambassador sieging and overseeing the ministers councils, you know : the kind of events in wich the most important decisions of the State are made, all under "supervision" of the USians so here you have your reason as to why so many traitors got off scott free : The USA bailed them out.
@larryalvares1369
@larryalvares1369 5 месяцев назад
Every person who doubted the French must learn the truth!
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
To learn what? That they surrended and then colaborated with germans and fought to the last men to defend Hitler in Berlin in 1945?
@HistoryHaty
@HistoryHaty 4 месяца назад
👍
@Techgnome21
@Techgnome21 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for covering this topic. We never get to heard about the French forces during WW2.
@LexiAgustinsukma
@LexiAgustinsukma 5 месяцев назад
I like your content!
@bachtruongson9408
@bachtruongson9408 5 месяцев назад
the animation is AMAZING
@ctrI_key
@ctrI_key 5 месяцев назад
These videos are very well-made! Love it
@kameronboe3378
@kameronboe3378 5 месяцев назад
I love history
@maxpedersen8492
@maxpedersen8492 5 месяцев назад
You should make a new video on the Spanish civil war🇪🇸
@clmk28
@clmk28 5 месяцев назад
1871 made a one on one fight between Germany and France predictable. For there to be any chance of french success their allies would have had to mobilize faster than Germany.
@justaperson1557
@justaperson1557 5 месяцев назад
Nice vid
@gamerstheater1187
@gamerstheater1187 5 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Napoleon had a banished descendant that helped fight the Nazis, and when his banishment was lifted, he refused to come back to France and just moved to Switzerland
@touhoutrash2436
@touhoutrash2436 5 месяцев назад
Oooooooooooh boy a new armchair historian video Bois!
@texrex9876
@texrex9876 5 месяцев назад
I love your videos! I wish someone would do Star Wars history videos (BBY-ABY) in your style
@MyWrecker
@MyWrecker 5 месяцев назад
Vive la France 🇫🇷
@andrewcombe8907
@andrewcombe8907 5 месяцев назад
One of the reasons Vichy France complied with Nazis was the threat of the massacre of French PW.
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
That is a lie
@Briselance
@Briselance 5 месяцев назад
02:03 Our tanks outclassed the Germans'? Weeeell... in terms of armour thickness, yes. But in terms of radios, turret ergonomy, speed, range, inter-branches communication, refueling, etc., we were sorely outclassed.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 5 месяцев назад
I hope you make a video about Polish soldiers and their role during WW2.
@bayurukmanajati1224
@bayurukmanajati1224 5 месяцев назад
France Early Game: "Surrender, Escape, and Obey German." France Late Game: "HOI 4 La Resistance."
@Obese_fridge69
@Obese_fridge69 5 месяцев назад
Love your channel
@marckal970
@marckal970 5 месяцев назад
Thank you to mention the « Malgré-nous », but there’s things to clarify : 1) don’t Alsace -Lorraine but Alsace-Moselle, the Moselle is the only part of Lorraine where there germanic culture. 2) We don’t speak german but Alsatian who’s a germanic dialect, it’s différent from the common german. 3) you must make a video on the Topic of Alsace during WW2 cuz we are one of the population who suffer the most under the nazis regime in Western Europe, with the reeducation and concentration camps, the incorporation by force…
@kendrickbritto8556
@kendrickbritto8556 5 месяцев назад
Please do WW2 from Norwegian perspective Specifically the battle of narvik
@GrandAdmThrawn
@GrandAdmThrawn 5 месяцев назад
Hmm....What Happened to Polish Soldiers During WW2 would be a nice and needed video imho.
@r3danimation794
@r3danimation794 5 месяцев назад
Do poland
@panzerscoutempire27
@panzerscoutempire27 5 месяцев назад
Why is Kiev named Kyiv here? The name was officially changed during the 90s.
@lochmock9305
@lochmock9305 5 месяцев назад
what happened to the french foreign legion in ww2?
@Yare_YareDaze
@Yare_YareDaze 5 месяцев назад
Finally, Someone Telling The Truth.
@andbrnr523
@andbrnr523 5 месяцев назад
I recommend the movie "The Cow and I" which is based on a real story of a French POW in Germany who travels back to France with a cow. Basically the trick was to tell the germans that his mission was to deliver the cow to the next farm so he would continue his way.
@Ch33secakeGaming
@Ch33secakeGaming 5 месяцев назад
All fun and games until you bump into the same German soldier again
@TheZackofSpades
@TheZackofSpades 5 месяцев назад
@@Ch33secakeGaminghey he’s still moving the cow, right? 😏
@dirkvandierdonck5831
@dirkvandierdonck5831 5 месяцев назад
It is a comedy starring Fernandel. Nothing true about it.
@JustAGigolo1985
@JustAGigolo1985 5 месяцев назад
Whoever directs the animation has the best creative mind for it, every scene feels perfect, has thought put into it and helps visualize a lot of aspects!
@surjackeroff
@surjackeroff 5 месяцев назад
They've really stepped up in the past few years too. Incredible how far this channel has come.
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 Месяц назад
Hats 👒 🎩 off to the animators for their hard work. I tip my hat to them.
@ileana4868
@ileana4868 5 месяцев назад
i’m french and love that you tell the truth about the french military
@damienbaujean8581
@damienbaujean8581 5 месяцев назад
Same, as a french, this feel so refreshing to see an american finally working on this subject with objectivity.
@Thebettermartyr
@Thebettermartyr 5 месяцев назад
You guys should really stop surrendering
@That_One_French_Lad
@That_One_French_Lad 5 месяцев назад
​@@ThebettermartyrMate that happened once. We literally won the most battles in History.
@Passportbros8
@Passportbros8 5 месяцев назад
Tell your nation "France" to get out of the continent so called Africa. The biblical promised land. Get out of our land. Get out of our continent. With all the poverty, oppression your nation brought upon my people in the continent of Africa. 🌍 You used my people to fight your white wars.
@Passportbros8
@Passportbros8 5 месяцев назад
​@@damienbaujean8581Tell your nation "France" to get out of the continent so called Africa. The biblical promised land. Get out of our land. Get out of our continent. With all the poverty, oppression your nation brought upon my people in the continent of Africa. 🌍 You used my people to fight your white wars.
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 5 месяцев назад
It's crazy to think how WW2 was basically a civil war for the French between fascists and anti-fascists. Yet all the popular media ever talks about is how France surrendered and that was it for them
@alexandre069
@alexandre069 5 месяцев назад
It's because American got pissed of we didn't follow their war crime in Irak
@d.olivergutierrez8690
@d.olivergutierrez8690 5 месяцев назад
@@alexandre069oh yes the famous ww2 irak campaign 👍
@alexandre069
@alexandre069 5 месяцев назад
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 no the 2003 one
@ljb4192
@ljb4192 5 месяцев назад
@@alexandre069y’all are too busy with war crimes in Mali
@GeneralYen
@GeneralYen 5 месяцев назад
Not between fascists and anti-fascists : between pro-Vichy and anti-Vichy. There is a huge nuance.
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 5 месяцев назад
my father's uncle at 13 was an ammo runner during the war for the resistance, he never even got to hold a rifle until the last years because weapons were so scarce. He thoroughly disliked the 'last hour resistants' people who joined the fight after the liberation of Toulouse.
@Kartavya64
@Kartavya64 5 месяцев назад
Why Toulouse?
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 5 месяцев назад
@@Kartavya64 nearest big city hed never been much further by then
@senpainoticeme9675
@senpainoticeme9675 5 месяцев назад
Preach. The only ones to be heartily commended with their dedication, were the conscripted and POW soldiers of the Republic, the pre-D-day members of the Maquis as well as the ones who were able to volunteer and continue the fight as the Free French.
@johnacrts2171
@johnacrts2171 5 месяцев назад
Heard about the last hour joiners from a documentary before. Did they actually go around shaving the heads of french women who had suspected relationships with german soldiers in an attempt to prove their 'loyalty to the resistance' like they actually contributed something to the fight?
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 5 месяцев назад
@@johnacrts2171 a lot of heads were shorn a lot of heads got a superfluous cavity lots of unsanctioned justice took place between 1944-1945. You see a scene liek that in band of brothers but it's in the netherlands and never made clear whether the resistants were OG's ( for lack of a better term) or not Some of the last hour resistants to their credit joined the troops who fought along the Ruhr and Rhine and pushed into southern Germany so that France was the 4th biggest force on the western front by the war's end.
@baptister7978
@baptister7978 5 месяцев назад
My hometown was massacred by ss in 1944 after an attack by the résistance to the local garrison. The ss the next day took all the men and hang them on the balconies of the city. The worse part about this tragic event is that some of the ss were what we call "malgré nous" which is the term for the french from alsace that fought in the german army.
@empereurnico6048
@empereurnico6048 4 месяца назад
note: they were forced conscript, no french men especially from Alsace would have wanted to help the boches
@60iger29
@60iger29 3 месяца назад
​@@empereurnico6048The people from Elsass were Germans and never felt French. So don't try to apologize them. It was France who took their land and they were not happy with living under french rule. Don't forgett that WW2 WW2 didn't happen in a vacuum and France was allways a hostile country to the german people since the 30 years war.
@Coohy
@Coohy 3 месяца назад
​@empereurnico6048 Yeah no one wants to be a nazi in hindsight, but reality is, there were many french facists, likewise the germans want to blame mustache man and move on, without taking a look in the mirror, Hitler wasn't just a person, but a whole generation of like minded people
@n11ls
@n11ls Месяц назад
​@@60iger29I HIGHLY reccomend you to do check Alsace's history, Germans enforced German and speaking French was forbidden
@Torrikify
@Torrikify 5 месяцев назад
My grandfather, aged 18 in 1941, was faced with the choice of going to Germany or joining the African Army in Algiers. He took part in the Tunisian campaign, where he met the Free French. He then headed for Italy, where he took part in the Battle of Garigliano with the 1st DFL. He then participated in operation dragoon, liberating provence, the Rhône valley, Burgundy, Alsace and then Germany.
@gabrielmontenegro9476
@gabrielmontenegro9476 5 месяцев назад
So he had to go to Germany anyways. False choices man...
@Torrikify
@Torrikify 5 месяцев назад
@@gabrielmontenegro9476 Strangely enough, everything revolved around Germany at that time
@jeremyarnie1803
@jeremyarnie1803 5 месяцев назад
Jean Moulin was not executed, he died from his injuries while he was in a train to Germany and no one exactly knows how he got arrested, maybe a French man betrayed him or the Gestapo was clever enough to arrest him. Gestapo chief Klaus Barbie knew the answer but never disclosed it.
@ghardrimvoreksson7266
@ghardrimvoreksson7266 3 месяца назад
Communists betrayed him
@jokodihaynes419
@jokodihaynes419 5 месяцев назад
"History is not written by the Victors it's written by those who write stuff down"-Max miller tasting history
@jokodihaynes419
@jokodihaynes419 5 месяцев назад
Charles de Gaulle had trouble trying to get French soldiers to fight for him because the British attack french battleships
@Storiedfrog9
@Storiedfrog9 5 месяцев назад
The attack on Mers-el-Kébir would be a great topic for a video, theres a lot of controversy surrounding that event
@wtfroflffs
@wtfroflffs 5 месяцев назад
So many of them fought for the Wehrmacht instead.
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 5 месяцев назад
@@wtfroflffs yes, this could have been avoided if Britain didn't attack Mer els Kebir and trusted the French at their word that the fleet would be scuttled before it would be handed over to the germans as it was on the 27 November 1942 despite the british actions
@livethefuture2492
@livethefuture2492 5 месяцев назад
​@@Storiedfrog9 There's no controversy. There are plenty of videos discussing the issue at length. Best one is watch Drachinifel's analysis. He puts it plainly all the various options and how it could have easily been averted. Ultimately, the reason was that The french admiral in charge was a right incompetent treasonous bastard who betrayed not only his own men but the very principles of a commander duty to his men. And needlessly sacrificed his own men for his hubris. Although let's be clear about something....The British did not 'betray' the French in any way at all. The very idea that anyone could reasonably have that thought disgusts me to my core. It was France that betrayed the Allied cause. They could have chose to fight on, enact a fighting retreat to North Africa or Britain. Chose to stay true to their allies. But all that fought on was DeGaulle and a few thousand of his most loyal troops. But no, they let the very identity of their country die, and relegated themselves to the Nazi rule. Giving up all hope of returning to the homeland and restoring the liberty of their country. Instead they sold out, relegation themselves to having to be liberated by the allies 4 years later. Its commonly misrepresented, The free french were Fringe, a tiny number compared to what should have been. The reality was far more bleak and it seemed that most french had simply given up on the ideals of their own nation. It's an embarrassement that the UK and US wanted to liberate France more than the bloody French themselves. And they have the guts to call their old allies as 'Traitors'. Make no mistake. There was only one Traitor in the allied cause. And it was France.
@trevid7158
@trevid7158 5 месяцев назад
@@livethefuture2492dude shut up. They lost the war and capitulated like a dozen empires before them. Like Greece>Rome, a dozen kingdoms>ottoman. The entirety of France wasn’t gonna get in a band wagon and go to africa. France at home still flew it’s colors and started to prosper. The nationalism the Germans sold them was more appealing then continuing with the Allies who sank their ships
@derkaiser420
@derkaiser420 5 месяцев назад
Anyone who ever talks down about the French in WWII I always argue about the rear guard at the Battle of Dunkirk. Thousands of French soldiers knowing they were going to die or be captured still defended the British withdrawal and fought valiantly. And the French Resistance never let the Germans rest until they were liberated.
@tuturg7454
@tuturg7454 5 месяцев назад
And the french soldiers in the Lille pocket that fought untill their last cartridge and kept 7 german divisions away from Dunkerque for a week during the most crucial moments of the Dynamo operation.
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv
@ThatOneGuy-mn6dv 5 месяцев назад
I forgot who said this but in this case it was spot on when in the context to France during the start of ww2. "The battle/war is fought 10-20 before it actually happens" or something to this effect. I think it was from Margin of Victory: Five Battles that Changed the Face of Modern War from Douglas Macgregor but I might be wrong but still we find examples of this. France was planning to fight ww2 thinking one way but one thing or another whatever they thought wasn't the case and what they did do was under supported. The forces did the best they could with effectively leadership that depending on who you view or ask basically failed them and give up long before their men under their command.
@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk
@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk 5 месяцев назад
I mean.....resistance in the west is vastly overexagerated these days. There was way more collaboration then there ever was resistance. So much so that some allied nations even wanted to treat France as a defeated nation instead of a liberated nation but was stopped by the British because they didn't want a repeat of punishing countries like after ww1. Resistance in my country only started shooting in like 1944 and in Belgium late 1943.
@AdanClark-zx7pw
@AdanClark-zx7pw 5 месяцев назад
Agreed but there was also french getting on the boats and Brits fighting the rearguard and holding the perimeter but maybe through jingoism or pride that's something the odd french revisionist overlooks blaming there whole defeat on the British while forgetting the debacle started with there collapse at Sedan
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 5 месяцев назад
@@AdanClark-zx7pw Many of the French lifted from Dunkerque's beaches opted for return to France, rather than join de Gaulle.
@corbinmartin5693
@corbinmartin5693 5 месяцев назад
How ironic is it that the day I discover I’m related to De Gaule from finding his old letters in my grandmother’s basement is the day arm chair uploaded this, thank you for this
@alexandre069
@alexandre069 5 месяцев назад
it's De Gaule
@corbinmartin5693
@corbinmartin5693 5 месяцев назад
@@alexandre069 apologies
@holius1
@holius1 5 месяцев назад
​@@alexandre069 it's (Charles) De Gaulle two l's
@AixlaachenPax1801
@AixlaachenPax1801 5 месяцев назад
No way just because this you have more credit to be in power in France than any corrupt politicians there
@rogerhorn9562
@rogerhorn9562 5 месяцев назад
1:46 1:46 1:49
@yourboishitposts
@yourboishitposts 5 месяцев назад
It's always a good day when the armchair historian uploads
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254 5 месяцев назад
Welll, having an elderly and incompetent C in C, General Gamelin using the vault of Chateau de Vincennes as his HQ, with no radio, just a despatch riders! Not to mention the chronic 'Let's fight the last war!' Mentality and No Plan B! Verdun had etched itself into the officer Corps! General Gamelin, Weygand's better No 2, ried to develop a better strategy. BUT IT WAS TOO LATE! According to some books and magazines I read when I was in France nearly 100000 Fench soldiers were in POW camps! The French government and hgh command surrendered before they were defeated Many of them actually preferred the Nazis "Better Hitler than Blum!", the brilliant PM who was both a Socialist and a Jew! France's ruling class almost welcomed defeat
@dardanianmapper9906
@dardanianmapper9906 5 месяцев назад
Video idea: "Battle of Byalistok - Minsk, the most one sided battle of ww2"
@wifi_soldier5076
@wifi_soldier5076 5 месяцев назад
German with 12,000 deaths and Soviets with 400,000 deaths under just 3 weeks is insane....
@dardanianmapper9906
@dardanianmapper9906 5 месяцев назад
@wifi_soldier5076 yeah that's why it's worth a video made about it
@bigchickenstrip2509
@bigchickenstrip2509 5 месяцев назад
@@wifi_soldier5076those are the casualties for both sides not just deaths. A large amount of the Soviet casualties were prisoners not deaths.
@Willing_Herold
@Willing_Herold 5 месяцев назад
@@bigchickenstrip2509there is no difference between pow and death in statistics as you still lose men to the other side wounded are temporary tho
@bigchickenstrip2509
@bigchickenstrip2509 5 месяцев назад
@@Willing_Herold I agree with what your saying as both deaths and pows are listed as irrecoverable losses unlike wounded but I was correcting his statement that all 400,000 Soviet casualties were deaths
@Ibby.M.I.786
@Ibby.M.I.786 5 месяцев назад
The sad thing is that a lot of French actually believed that it was truly the end for themselves when France signed the Armistice with Germany and gave up (this is the part the media clenches onto); yet there were so many French out there that did not want to take the NAZIs marching into their homeland laying down. My insignificant opinion: had France been better prepared and were to look forward from World War 1 tactics, they would have been a force to be reckoned a lot sooner. Hitler and his boys would have not been able to push as far as they did
@roisanglier34
@roisanglier34 4 месяца назад
Peut être que si les anglais n'avait pas trahi la France en livrant les plan de la ligne Maginot aux Allemands. Et en fuyant des le début de la bataille sa aurait était plus simple.
@akiraraiku
@akiraraiku 3 месяца назад
It is the fault of the Ardennes commander for letting the germans succeed in their all in with their tank rush through the forest. They were spotted by recon aircraft. Artillery was able to shell the bridges and airwings were ready to bomb and straf the german tank trafic jam in the ardenne, all stuck rear to front on a thin forest road. He only had to give the order. He did not.
@alexandre069
@alexandre069 5 месяцев назад
The real shame is not the surrender giving the circonstances, its the collaboration that followed it
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
So true
@livethefuture2492
@livethefuture2492 5 месяцев назад
I've seen a lot people say things like the British 'betrayed' the French at dunkirk by fleeing, or by attacking the base at Mers-el-Kebir, but let's be clear about something....The British did not 'betray' the French in any way at all. The very idea that anyone could reasonably have that thought disgusts me to my core. It was France that betrayed the Allied cause. They could have chose to fight on, enact a fighting retreat to North Africa or Britain. Chose to stay true to their allies. But all that fought on was DeGaulle and a few thousand of his most loyal troops. But no, they let the very identity of their country die, and relegated themselves to the Nazi rule. Giving up all hope of returning to the homeland and restoring the liberty of their country. Instead they sold out, relegation themselves to having to be liberated by the allies 4 years later. Its commonly misrepresented, The free french were Fringe, a tiny number compared to what should have been. The reality was far more bleak and it seemed that most french had simply given up on the ideals of their own nation. It's an embarrassement that the UK and US wanted to liberate France more than the bloody French themselves. And they have the guts to call their old allies as 'Traitors'. Make no mistake. There was only one Traitor in the allied cause. And it was France.
@alexandre069
@alexandre069 5 месяцев назад
@@livethefuture2492 ok dude
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 5 месяцев назад
@@livethefuture2492 Stop spamming
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 5 месяцев назад
As a French person with Jewish great-grandparents who hid during the Occupation, I fully agree
@fluffehpancakes1102
@fluffehpancakes1102 5 месяцев назад
Great work! Can you guys do one about the Netherlands during ww2?
@yourhistorybase279
@yourhistorybase279 5 месяцев назад
The occupation and dutch resistence + involvement is much underrated, would be a good video
@fluffehpancakes1102
@fluffehpancakes1102 5 месяцев назад
@@yourhistorybase279 yes along with the fact they put another resistance up in Indonesia.
@laguerredesetoiles
@laguerredesetoiles 5 месяцев назад
(Excuse my bad english i am french) Your video is a great video, and a thank you for that, i just want to say a thing, you talk about french how serve in the german army by force, this story is true and not many People now about this in France we call them "malgré nous" thoses men how came from Alsace, Lorraine and Moselle ( french région on the german border) was force to fight in the eastern front, but after the war when you surrounder to the soviet or allies and go back to France you avec to make a choice : 15 years in the french military ( indochina, algeria war) or prison because for the goverment your are a traitor, a well now chacartere of a book name 317 section ( took place in the end of indochina war ) was what we call a "malgré nous". Many goes to the french forein legion where theire mate old germain and ss soldiers, but that is a another story. Thanks for you video.
@martinsto8190
@martinsto8190 5 месяцев назад
all is good, since nut heads from around the world keep declaring that english must be The International language, then why not go along with their silly game. in the end an international language means that its every human's right to change it a little bit. no one is allowed to say your english is bad, just because you use non english phrases.
@howiehall4622
@howiehall4622 5 месяцев назад
No worries, mon ami! I am American and I can tell you that a whole lot of people here have bad English. And cool story!
@richardmaseke4143
@richardmaseke4143 5 месяцев назад
I like the way he hasn’t romanticised the French resistance , it was clear vichy France had supported n enforced some of Germany’s policies a t that time , they were infact the greatest vassal for him in tje western front
@AsaTrenchard1865
@AsaTrenchard1865 5 месяцев назад
F'd in the A. Their women, too.
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 5 месяцев назад
I dunno about anyone else but your WoWS Legends link isn't working for me, nothing loads.
@CatarigMat
@CatarigMat 5 месяцев назад
Great video!! Vive la France!!! 🇫🇷
@Passportbros8
@Passportbros8 5 месяцев назад
Tell your nation "France" to get out of the continent so called Africa. The biblical promised land. Get out of our land. Get out of our continent. With all the poverty, oppression your nation brought upon my people in the continent of Africa. 🌍 You used my people to fight your terrible wars.
@Passportbros8
@Passportbros8 5 месяцев назад
Tell the nation "🇫🇷" to get out of the continent so called Africa. The biblical promised land. Get out of our land. Get out of our continent. With all the poverty, oppression your nation brought upon my people in the continent of Africa. 🌍
@gavinwhite8506
@gavinwhite8506 5 месяцев назад
You know it’s a good day when armchair historian posts a new video
@jukkab5352
@jukkab5352 5 месяцев назад
Viva la France 🇫🇷
@mchrome3366
@mchrome3366 5 месяцев назад
I’m American and over the years have better understood why the French were so quickly demoralized and defeated in their surrender. Without going into the many factors the “fighting French” and the French resistance were the last soldiers the Nazis wanted to run into in their retreat after D day. They were terrified of being captured by the French.
@Karl-nv5ok
@Karl-nv5ok 5 месяцев назад
They signed an armistice.
@borgognosimon5719
@borgognosimon5719 5 месяцев назад
I would like to add something, it would have been interesting to developp more on the colonies, the colonials provided to France some 250,000 men with another 190,000 French european settlers combined with the 50,000 Free French. The French army of Africa, numbering 400k men in 1943 fought in Italy, France did regain its millitary prestige in Italy and had more predtige from the Americans who allowed them to fight in the ETO The colonies is the reason why France was able to win the war
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
France did not win anything.
@beniaminorzechowski9913
@beniaminorzechowski9913 5 месяцев назад
Video idea. Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17th 1939
@GamingError505
@GamingError505 5 месяцев назад
Frenchies in the trenchies!
@anaesthete5592
@anaesthete5592 5 месяцев назад
Make a video on Srilankan civil war please
@valdemarrolandsen9292
@valdemarrolandsen9292 5 месяцев назад
i whuld love to see a video on WW2 from danish perspective, becuse their situation is a really intresting one, and i think it culd make a good video
@Matt-bz2dm
@Matt-bz2dm 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for this one, my great grandfather was captured in 40 and since he died young he never told my grandpa what really happened to him
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
Around 120,000 colonial soldiers, many from sub-Saharan Africa, participated in the landing in Provence on August 16, 1944. African soldiers experienced discrimination during the war, which culminated in de Gaulle's decision to “whiten” the forces that marched into Paris in August 1944.
@willnibor6075
@willnibor6075 5 месяцев назад
Liar! it was an american and british decision. American created the 2nd Armoured division on US racist conception of an army..and Leclerc african soldiers were sent in other units, in 1943, before the division was sent to England. British also didn't want to have french colonial troops on their lands.. In 1940, a black african officer could command white soldiers the french army ( read about the history of captain N'Tchorore) . What could do a black american in... 1944? 1965? 2020??? I can't breathe.
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
​@@willnibor6075 French could just say no to Americans. But that takes guts....😂
@espurr3496
@espurr3496 5 месяцев назад
when the colonies care more about liberating your own country
@jacobzehner2004
@jacobzehner2004 5 месяцев назад
Merci Charles de Gaulle for creating the free French forces and the French resistance
@PeacePetal
@PeacePetal 5 месяцев назад
I'm surprised you didn't talk more about the French forces that reformed as the Allies swept through France in 1944 and 1945. By V-E Day, the Free French numbered 1.3 million, making them the fourth largest army in Europe. I'd say they earned their occupation zone!
@ak9989
@ak9989 5 месяцев назад
Lol only with massive American aid
@PeacePetal
@PeacePetal 5 месяцев назад
@@ak9989American weapons, but French soldiers.
@ro.stan.4115
@ro.stan.4115 5 месяцев назад
They joined when everyone knew war was over. Germany was on it's knees. Just like french for the past 4 years
@altandemei2644
@altandemei2644 Месяц назад
@@ak9989 USian lend and lease wich was repayed in full. The US never "galantly came to the rescue of France by pure good will" as it gets regurgitated everywhere, it was cynical and interested and if it wasnt for De Gaulle forcing both the hands of Churchill and Roosevelt : Hitler could have very well kept his New European Order as long as he kept being the lap dashund of the USA.
@Buildingerror500
@Buildingerror500 5 месяцев назад
Some of them joined the free french and some of them joined the vichy francs it truely an french civil war
@jeffreyhunnewell1652
@jeffreyhunnewell1652 5 месяцев назад
The French Army loves to fight, having worked beside them before.
@talleman1
@talleman1 5 месяцев назад
This is what you get when you don't aid your alliances. Poland fought a two front war. France just sat there.
@White_Wolf7274
@White_Wolf7274 5 месяцев назад
Hi tanks for still uploading videos on RU-vid
@the_feedle
@the_feedle 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for also mentionning the forced conscripts of Alsace-Lorraine. Today nicknamed "malgré nous" ("Despite us"), they were seen as traitors by both the french and the nazis. Sadly many of them were made prisonners by the soviets and ended up in the gulag of Tambov, were a vast amount of them did not survive
@burtturdison4445
@burtturdison4445 5 месяцев назад
A lot of this was never fully examined and talked about. All you hear about in regards to France and WW2 is the heroic struggle of the resistance. Rarely, if ever, did I hear anything about the traitors that collaborated or the Vichy regime. If seems like all people wanted to do after the war was forget and move on.
@phlm9038
@phlm9038 5 месяцев назад
There are a lot of videos about Vichy France on RU-vid and many books have been written as well. But it is true that after the war people wanted to move on, which took a long time, especially in eastern Europe : "Savage continent - Europe in the aftermath of ww2" by Keith Lowe.
@oliverlane9716
@oliverlane9716 5 месяцев назад
The difference between the French and Polish militaries post occupation is so stark.
@ExtantPerson
@ExtantPerson 5 месяцев назад
My great-great-grandfather served through all of WW1 in the French army and survived through WW2. I have never been able to figure out where he was in France or what he did during German occupation/Vichy France, but this video has helped me develop ideas of some possibilities.
@dave8323
@dave8323 5 месяцев назад
Does it really matter, did you ever meet him?
@ExtantPerson
@ExtantPerson 5 месяцев назад
@@dave8323 Why wouldn’t it matter? He’s an ancestor of mine who played a role in one of the most important events in human history. The more I can learn about what he might have gone through, the better.
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 5 месяцев назад
Good luck, may your search be fruitful
@ExtantPerson
@ExtantPerson 5 месяцев назад
@@jackthorton10 thank you
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