What about GPS jamming and spoofing of HIMARS missiles which has been reported in some social media siites? Is that a factor\ why there we are no longer hearing as much about HIMARS: the missiles themselves keep missing due to Russian EW actions?
How they suppose to take photos and videos? Russian Missiles don't come with cameras on them. Do USA missiles comes with HD cameras and 10G internet connectivity or you aspects Ukrainian to show something? Of course USA himmars are destroyed or damaged that's why they are not in use anymore.
no mention of the fact that Himars are using the GPS system Russia claims to be able to jamm making the Himars rocket missing its target? Sorry for the repeat that fact?/story? was already adressed above.
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Just having the HIMARS capability is enough to cause substantial damage without firing a single shot. Being forced to keep your supply depots far behind the front line makes it much more difficult to maintain your logistical networks, and it makes you more susceptible to destroying infrastructure between a critical point and that supply line. It also means you have to decentralize your supply depots, meaning that it becomes harder to supervise, maintain, and watch over your supplies.
Exactly! No one talks about this! Everyone wants to talk HIMARS, or cruise missiles, or whatever weapon. But it's really ALL about logistics. It's boring as hell, but arguably the most important thing in war
What point is there in having such a capability if 90% of them mostly miss their targets because of GPS jamming? The missiles aren't cheap. I'm shocked CC didn't talk about this. It's been in the news, admitted by US sources for weeks.
@@Rogdub I approximated it myself, as there's a 90% reduction in reported successful strikes by HIMARS from back last year. I assumed the ukrainians would report every successful strike, and the Russians would report every successful interception. Both sources can't be trusted to give accurate and exact numbers, as belligerents in the battlefield. Problem?
@@wolfswinkel8906 Who says 90%? The pentagon and Ukraine claim that they have almost entirely mitigated jamming. These missiles also have INS systems built into them. It reduces the accuracy a bit, but it can compensate well enough for any jamming.
Media infotainers are of average low intelligence and not subject matter experts for the most part. They entertain m0r0ns who don't take interest enough to watch serious content.
Well that's obvious. Perun is awesome but he often just says the obvious in 5,000 words instead of 50 words like CC... and with no graphics or video or anything to go with it... just a PowerPoint type presentation
@@grobbs666 Theres a lot more what Perun says, its much more objective and in depths. Nothing wrong with either, but youre not listening if you think Perun says nothing.
@@termitreter6545 not the actual S400 but the Russian 55K6A command post which is a part of the S-400 AD system but like WAAAAYYYYY more valuable..... So quite a significant loss
@@BKrol-dr4gi Oh yeah, its the most valuable part of the system probably. Weve seen images of a destroyed launcher as well tho, if I remember correctly. But I would consider all those elemements part of the weapons system. Air Defense systems like Patriot, S-300/400, Buk, Irist-T, etc, they are all made up of different multiple connected modules: Command, radars, support, launchers, etc. ... hm, to say "destroyed a system" is acutally kinda inaccurate, isnt it? You only destroy modules normally, and remaining modules can be mixed and matched.
The Russians adapted to the HIMARS strikes, so of course their initial effect has been blunted a bit, but I still see clips of devastating HIMARS strikes, so obviously still being well-used. Bayractar's have definitely dropped off the radar as far as footage aired goes, probably to to increased Russian air defence, but there are still good Javelin and NLAW clips.
The US builds systems open to software updates to counter EW efforts. I suspect the Bayraktar doesn't have the same open software abilities. We are still seeing successful HIMARS strikes. They are just a few days to a week apart. We can confirm a few from Russian sources posting the attack site.
Main way in which Russia adopt is that they claim they did. And well, when all targets in range were destroyed, then obviously there is no much to report anymore. So Russia declare victory.
This analysis completely failed to mention Russia's REC ECM capabilities to employ extensive use of GPS jamming. There's lots of reports of GPS disruption coming from combat areas that affects a wide area. Pretty good evidence the jamming is degrading Storm Shadow and SDB GMLRs precision.
Early orc jamming had friendly fire ramifications, their own missiles/drones went astray. Then HARM got the message and targeted jamming transmitters. Just a big war game with electronics geeks rubbing their hands.
And your analysis completely fails to mention the intertial guidence systems? Also, jamming isn't an option in many cases. It's not really worth mentioning in a five minute video.
US cruise missiles and guided systems in general haven't relied on GPS since the 90s. Many of the Tomahawks used in the Iraq war, where guided by downloading terrain maps on the missile, and referencing terrain data to gauge the position. Theres many other similar guidance techniques used aswell. The terrain method is a well known one that you can see in many open source frameworks like ROS. GPS was designed only for use in navigation. Civillian drones using GPS for guidance is a fairly new concept.
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Aren't the Russians heavily jamming gps signals when they detect a incoming potential threat? That would cause himars to be a lot less accurate because it dose not have terrain following capability like tomahawks or stormshadow, so if gps is jammed it can only rely on gyroscopes which loses a lot of precision
Gyros drift over time. But over the flight time of a HIMARS not enough to miss something like a bunker or a building. That is assuming the gyros were aligned properly before launch.
@@howardsimpson489 Quite right, but they have to be aligned stationary (takes about 15 mins after transportation). So as long as that is complete, corrections can be applied by GPS in flight. But if in a hurry, I would imagine there is an option to launch without using the gyros (this is assuming they have them, I am guessing there maybe cheaper variants with less kit on board).
Western media has reported that russian electronic warfare has done a fantastic job interfering with anything GPS guided. Thus many are of those rockets are not shot down per say, but haxked and guided into open fields. Same with why the glide bombs have had no measureable effect on the battle. I think thats the biggest reason
GPS interference simply reduces accuracy, GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion: "The GMLRS rocket includes a Global Positioning System (GPS)-aided inertial guidance and control unit, intended to produce accuracy of 2 to 3 mils with inertial-only guidance and less than 15 meters circular error probable (CEP) with GPS." "In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a weapon circular error probable of 5 meters or less during free flight when GPS data is available. If GPS data is denied, the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds with a GPS quality handoff from the aircraft. "GLSDB guidance system: GPS supported INS. According to Saab, it is accurate to within one meter and is resilient to electronic warfare jamming. The production SDB I is equipped with Rockwell Collins GPS receiver, with a Harris anti-jam module, and a Honeywell inertial unit"
Western countries havent used GPS guided munitions since the 90s. The Tomahawks used in the Iraq war would reference the terrain scanned by sensors with the terrain maps recorded onboard, to gauge the position. This is a well known method that you can see in many libraries such as ROS. Also another problem with GPS jammers is they need to be mobile and away from the target. If their on the building itself, it practically makes it a homing beacon. If the position is stationary, it can be factored/filtered out.
@@honkhonk8009 Both the Excalibur artillery shell and the GLMRS used GPS navigation for additional accuracy. The ATACMS also used GPS but I dont believe those have been supplied to ukraine. Its been widely reported that russian electronic warfare has seriously effect the accuracy of ukraine's western supplied weapons.
@@kameronjones7139 Do you ACTUALLY think Ukraine is getting the latest and greatest from america?! Fuck no, they are getting old stock, shit that is out of its service life. There are multiple records of "new" javelin and stinger systems not working because the batteries weren't changed in the 5 year service life.
nothing happened, just like stinger, javalin, patriot, and later leopard 2A4 and potentially F16, just another normal weapon system that got hyped to wonder weapon level, treat them as normal weapon then we will all find them working as intended
If you follow the correct channels, you will see that on average, there's about 4 HIMARS strikes every week since October or so to today. Last week, a small house got hit in Donesk region, it's suspected that a house was used for command and control system. Some other wearhouses since then have been struck.
Nah, just typical Ukrainian terrorism sponsored by the USA and NATO friends. Nothing new since 2014. The USA has promoted terrorism around the world for a long time.
They can also utilize less than 500 nm, for example you could see objects with a size of 180 nm in a relatively old professional optical microscope. Microscope isn't a spy satellite, but optics is optics, you could relatively easily focus to half of wavelengths of light.
And one satellite can give lots of photos with different angles of a specific target while flying over it. Then you feed all those different photos to a program to get enhanced resolution, and a 3D model of you like
@@julianbrelsford ; The issue video geostationary is that the satellite is further out, thus more expensive and needs a higher resolution compared to an orbiting one.
Himars did lose some importance but remain a pillar of the Ukrainians capacities. They can still be very lethal in a saturation operation and even more if coupled with decoy. We could not hope that Himars could single-handedly turn around the war for years, the fact it did for several months is already an achievement on its own.
Starting at 6:23 I was again blown away (mind you, being a commercial aviator, I know the applications of many performance formula but this one I had never seen yet - well done!)
There are multiple reports are that HIMARS targeting is being nullified by GPS jamming, possibly at the satellite level. That would be a very effective capability given all the fanfare giving Ukraine HIMARS has generated and this video should have addressed that very plausible scenario, thank you.
very unlikely however, as I have seen HEAPS of videos quoting HIMARS strikes, what is odd tho is they always say HIMARS and not M270 launched GMLRS as if they know what vehicle it was launched from. Just media hype I guess.
The GMLRS rockets also back up their guidance with inertial guidance. This extends their CEP depending on the time elapsed in their flightthtabot takes over. Also, jamming GPS is quite hard, and it affects every system which given that the Russians are also using GPS is probably quite disruptive. Finally it's certainly not happening "at the satellite level" because no ASAT system has yet reached geostationary altitude - that's 35786 km. You might jam the signal, but getting at the satellites is almost impossible.
So the Russians who need to use 1950’s era tanks and who have an air defense system made of Swiss cheese AND who needed to kill 20k soldiers to take an insignificant salt mine called Bakhmut …. These are the tech savvy gurus that can suddenly block GPS and the west can’t stop them? Sure…
I heard the Russians got their hands on an unexploded one and they sent it Moscow and figured out how to jam it. I don't have the link but there's pics of them with a whole one inside Russia.
As soon as GPS jammed-it can switch to inertial navigation-for end of trip-and since it KNOWS exactly where it was-the time distance under inertial navigation is "not much" so it could still hit within a few 10's of meters-depending.. It can also switch to laser guidance-drones can "paint" the target-whole separate set of signals to be "jammed"- It can also just go ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF-only except signals for short periods-and perhaps "know" which are "spoof" signals(strongest ones probably)
Rockets are not guided. Those are called "missiles".All you need to shoot them is an observer with a map and a radio, never mind GPS. And that cannot be jammed.
@@notastone4832 who said anything about bombs? I'm talking rockets. Rockets are unguided, thus they cannot be jammed no matter how good your EW is. They can also be visually aimed(drones, forward observers) which aren't affected by jamming. It takes months of specialized training to master those systems. Somebody is probably blaming their equipment to hide their shortcomings. Now that you mention them, laser guided bombs cannot be jammed. They go where their laser guidance system points at. Lasers are unaffected by EW.If Ukraine is talking about JDAMs(which they have received only recently)which are GPS guided, GPS can be jammed(Albeit it takes quite the effort to do so: Military GPS is not the same as commercial GPS, a thing most "commentators" often overlook). Guidance for JDAMs is being jury-rigged to aircraft not designed to carry them. No wonder they don't work as advertised. But again, bombs, their guidance and delivery methods have nothing to do with HIMARS rockets.
@@Gearparadummies well since you want to be pedantic, missiles that are launched by rocket engines are, technically, rockets. My point of the jamming of missiles (happy now?) still remains unanswered
@@rifroll1117 In a military context, the difference between rockets and missiles is guidance. I'm being precise, not pedantic. Given the small number of aircraft Ukraine is still operating, their complaints about GPS jamming are moot. Regarding HIMARS and MLRS rocket artillery, all they need to counter jamming is a forward observer. Besides, Russian jamming also affect their own GLONASS and radar systems(as it happened at the beginning of the invasion) Furthermore, jamming is not radar-proof, it depends on a number of factors. The fact that the Russians have moved their supply lines quite a bit back to avoid being targeted by rockets shows that jamming is not all that effective. Despite the limited success of Ukraine's counter-offensive, they're counterattacking nonetheless. That cirmcunstance alone give a good glimpse at the absolute state of Russia's vaunted military fighting a conventional war against the poorest country in Europe.
One factor to which you didn't seem to give proper weight is that Russia seems to have gotten better at interfering with the GPS signals which the GMLRS (and GLSDB) rockets that HIMARS shoots uses to find the target. Without the guidance GPS provides, HIMARS will be less effective.
GPS interference simply reduces accuracy, GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion: "The GMLRS rocket includes a Global Positioning System (GPS)-aided inertial guidance and control unit, intended to produce accuracy of 2 to 3 mils with inertial-only guidance and less than 15 meters circular error probable (CEP) with GPS." "In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a weapon circular error probable of 5 meters or less during free flight when GPS data is available. If GPS data is denied, the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds with a GPS quality handoff from the aircraft. "GLSDB guidance system: GPS supported INS. According to Saab, it is accurate to within one meter and is resilient to electronic warfare jamming. The production SDB I is equipped with Rockwell Collins GPS receiver, with a Harris anti-jam module, and a Honeywell inertial unit"
@@msytdc1577 I only said that interfering with GPS made GMLRS less effective, I didn't say ineffective. For something like JDAM, particularly when it is attached to a big boy like a MK 84, degradation to a 30 meter CEP isn't too bad a loss of accuracy, you have to have truly formidable protection to have a chance of surviving a one ton bomb going off 30 meters away. For the much smaller warheads in GMLRS, the increase in CEP has a correspondingly greater chance of reducing the rocket's effect on its intended target. So, for example, you might still take out you target with GMLRS, but maybe you'd need a full 6 rocket salvo to insure doing so with good probability, instead of taking 1 or 2 rockets
GPS interference simply reduces accuracy, GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion: "The GMLRS rocket includes a Global Positioning System (GPS)-aided inertial guidance and control unit, intended to produce accuracy of 2 to 3 mils with inertial-only guidance and less than 15 meters circular error probable (CEP) with GPS." "In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a weapon circular error probable of 5 meters or less during free flight when GPS data is available. If GPS data is denied, the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds with a GPS quality handoff from the aircraft. "GLSDB guidance system: GPS supported INS. According to Saab, it is accurate to within one meter and is resilient to electronic warfare jamming. The production SDB I is equipped with Rockwell Collins GPS receiver, with a Harris anti-jam module, and a Honeywell inertial unit"
@@msytdc1577 Those are just JDAM's. Since the 90s, cruise missiles and similar derivatives used in the Iraq war would reference the terrain scanned with the terrain maps downloaded, to gauge position. Its possibly gotten more accurate since the 90s. Alot of open source libraries such as ROS got better versions of it.
Hey bodily here again. Loving these videos. With the uptick in the counter offensive ongoing we are seeing they they appeared to have stockpiled some of their himars ammunition before the offensive and are currently using them more liberally right now. We are seeing himars strikes on small ammo dumps, light vehicles and dug in enemy troop positions which indicates that they have infact stockpiled some of these missiles. As for the glsdb those hadn’t actually started production when they were announced to be sent and if any were sent they would have been in very low numbers. That may be why we haven’t seen them recently. Not to mention they are easier to shoot down.
Its because successful HIMARS strikes are not special and thus worthy of getting news coverage anymore. They were a big thing back then because of their efficiency and them being one of the first heavy weapon systems the West sent to Ukraine, but now people are more interested in other news.
@@515coldfire yes as they might want to build up their stocks for the upcoming "great counter attack". Better to use them while attacking instead of using them for attrition with no real end goal.
Surprised you didn't mention GPS jamming by Russia, himars have been missing targets as a result, apparently no longer an issue with updated GPS systems
that really should not matter as much, because the rockets still have a inertial navigation system that provides good enough accuracy to hit point targets.
GPS interference simply reduces accuracy, GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion: "The GMLRS rocket includes a Global Positioning System (GPS)-aided inertial guidance and control unit, intended to produce accuracy of 2 to 3 mils with inertial-only guidance and less than 15 meters circular error probable (CEP) with GPS." "In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a weapon circular error probable of 5 meters or less during free flight when GPS data is available. If GPS data is denied, the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds with a GPS quality handoff from the aircraft. "GLSDB guidance system: GPS supported INS. According to Saab, it is accurate to within one meter and is resilient to electronic warfare jamming. The production SDB I is equipped with Rockwell Collins GPS receiver, with a Harris anti-jam module, and a Honeywell inertial unit"
@@msytdc1577 with GPS jamming you can't even get reliable coordinates of launch - that why accuracy is greatly reduced. And Russian GPS jamming in Ukranian is even leaking into Europe, so in Ukraine it's barely working.
According to production estimates given by Boeing and Saab earlier, it's unlikely that GLSDB has been delivered to Ukraine in quantity yet. June was the early target date, I believe, with August being the late timefraim. That could be part of the reason we are still in the shaping phase of the counteroffensive. Also, there are almost daily reports of successful HIMARS strikes, if you know what channels to follow, especially now that major shaping opperations are underway.
I posted essentially the same comment as you before seeing your comment. HIMARS is alive and well. I've seen no interruption on almost daily postings on it hitting very valuable targets. Furthermore, the Russian S300/400 has had little success in shooting them down Given the GMLRS speed and limited range, unless the S300/400 is very near by, it likely just does not have the time to detect, track, launch and intercept before the GMLRS arrives. Like you, I also stated that the GLSDB's projected arrival date was between June and August. So, it should not have been a surprise that none have been observed when this was posted, in May.
Yeah and that’s why you don’t hear about them anymore lol. Cause they are destroyed. Buddy quit coping. Take a look at a map and tell me where in Russia the Ukrainian army is. God I’d hate to win like Ukraine lol.
@@dontbestupid6664 This comment section is full of planks that get their news from the mainstream media. They think they know but know nothing of what really is going on.
@@dontbestupid6664 Yet not a single photo of a destroyed himars exist and Russian depots continue to receive some freedom. 2 week special military operation to take the entire country to 11% of the poorest country in Europe after 15 months and taking colossal losses. God I'd hate to win like Russia lol.
1) Captain HIMARS works at night, he even Tik-Toks in the dark 2) The trucks go in disguise and have many doubles, Russian videos of destruction look like logging trucks 3) SDGB rockets were from long storage. All needed an X-ray health check. Original ETA was 4 months so they’re due next week (yeah really) 4) Captain HIMARS is Batman and works out of a Bat-cave behind a waterfall 😹 5) They’ll be back!
You didn't go into one important detail here. HIMARS being a GPS guided munition is susceptible to GPS jamming, which according to some reports is definitely taking place. As for satellites, you're overstating their importance. Their orbital path is predictable and they aren't easily diverted, meaning you'll always have a pretty good idea of when they'll be overhead, and can make sure to hide your gear while they can see you. In the optical wavelengths they can't see through clouds. Doesn't matter if your fancy satellite has 10cm resolution if the area you're looking at is covered by bad weather. These shortcomings can often be much better handled by long range drones, which are also orders of magnitude cheaper.
Turns out Ukraine's "big offensive" was a total bust. They gained minimal territory, and lost some they already had. Some estimates give Russia as the side with a net gain. It's possible HIMARS made the offensive less of a disaster than it would have been otherwise.
one more thing that i think is important, the media. HIMARS is old news so the media aren't jumping on every potential strike like they did early on, so there just isn't the interest to work out what they are up to in the open source community, add all the things mentioned in vid and you can see why we don't see them any more
It about time a RU-vidr had enough common sense to raise the question about what happened to the HIMARS. Not enough common sense, however, to treat the question with Probability Theory, or formalized common sense. Instead, the question was raised within the epistemic context of "proof," which concerns only deductive syllogisms.
suppose you had a limited supply of an armament and your enemy has adapted to it. Would you consider stockpiling and using those armaments during a major offensive, as your troops move advance, your weapons come in range of targets that have been moved out of range?
The HIMARS is expensive so it wasn't worth the expense to kill off the few Russians in the trenches. The Ukraine army is probably saving the HIMARS for the counter offensive.
@@protorhinocerator142 I read the US was shipping the obsolete cluster bombs and the UA salvaged the little bomblets inside and put them onto the drones. These bomblets are more powerful than the hand grenades that were used earlier in the war. Each bomblet can penetrate thin armor and has more fragmentation effect than the grenades.
Russia adapted to HIMARS by preventing it from using its targetting systems by blocking it with EW(Electronic Warfare) units, adapted air defense is also a major thing that is preventing HIMARS from firing
I think it would be beneficial to develop a weapon that can pre-load its targeting information. Consider a target that's a building between a big statue in the town square, and a smaller building on the other side. You get a GPS lock on the target. But then you feed the visual data in so that it can see where it's going and recognize its intended target. So long as there's visibility, the jammers won't stop it at that point. Use recon images to create a visual breadcrumb trail leading the missile to the target. If you're hitting multiple targets in he same area, you can re-use many of the visual breadcrumbs that lead there. Use them as waypoints and then veer off to the specific target at the last second. It would be very hard to defend against something like this.
@@protorhinocerator142 Preloading its targetting and flying using gyroscopes is relatively simple but hard to do superaccurate and things like wind or rain can influence the trajectory. If you use GPS to adjust your targetting the accuracy is MUCH better. HIMARS is accurate within 1m-10m. Without GPS a high precision missile would likely be 20m-100m accurate and a lot less of a threat
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How about no The HIMARS missile have both GPS and INS Even with GPS jammed, the INS is immune to jamming and can still get the missile with lethal radius of its target
I've seen a recent video of Himars striking a Russian command building/barracks. Filmed by a Russian officer. All 6 rockets made an impact. Truly terrifying to be on the receiving end of that.
There was a video where an Orlan-10 had a HIMARS in its sights, the video then shows a strike at the same spot. There was not any battle damage assessment in the video, but as you know finding and fixing are the first two steps of the targeting process. I don't know why people wouldn't assume some launchers have been destroyed. Also, there is a video of either a Tor or a Pantsir shooting down a salvo of something that looks a lot like the interval of HIMARS rockets. Its right under (maybe the target of) the salvo and it definitely hits many of them.
There were photos of destroyed targets. But now himars is used to shoot 1-2 rockets to single target. A week ago there is confirmed Pantsir C1 destroyed by it. But it's not ammo dump which is so nice to take a photo of
@@QWERTY-gp8fd it isnt conventional rocket artillery. Rocket artillery is unguided. Himars is very precise and it isnt meant to replace conventional rocket artillery. And no that pantsir was destroyed by cannon artillery.
@@squidysnose69 HIMARS uses the exact same pods as the M270, which can contain anything from unguided rockets to precision guided large diameter missiles... similar to how tube artillery can fire anything from conventional high-explosives through self-seeking cluster munitions (BONUS) to advanced extended range precision shells like Exclaibur.
well timed with Perun's Long Range Fires video also coming out this past week. I think it's worth noting that in the cases GMLRS are intercepted by Russian SAMs, the interceptor cost is much higher than the GMLRS cost.
@@tellyboy17 kamikaze drones of all kinds are a good example of an economically unfavorable trade for sam’s Whether it’s shahed, switchblade, or just a mavic with a c4 block
Respectfully I don't believe Russian satellite resolution is as bad as you state, I doubt it because what you are stating is the USSR back in the Cold War had better resolution black and white images then current model built Russian satellites which is quite hard to believe. Great video, just don't think that is accurate but that naturally comes with this type of Information speculation.
Kinda surprised that they have so few optical satellites over Ukraine. Russia launches to space very frequently so they have the capability to have far more eyes in the sky than just 2.
That is because we do have more and better, but msm media like this is paid to spread lies about a country that first everything in space today have no hi res satelite network lol... only complete idiots believes it, considering ukrainian/nato deployment points, storages and operational centers being destroyed on daily basis.
Thanks for this video. I do think you get GLSDB wrong on two counts though: 1) They're *not* easy to shoot down. Press reports about the Russian glide bombs claim that they are hard to shoot down. They have no exhaust once gliding, and they're small. 2) The reason GLSDB have not been in the news is because they were originally reported to be delivered in the fall, so Ukraine just doesn't have much of them yet. (Edit: Earlier commenters have said that June-August was the timeframe.) I appreciate your analysis of Russian spy satellite capability. Your analysis seems right to me, and I did not know several points you made.
Weird, I have been hearing about HIMAR strikes still on other youtube channels that analyze location and munitions used. They've been getting less coverage like all news trends do.
It looks like SAMs are being used now in concentration to defend a critical spot versus being widespread to defend bigger area. One of the issues was that one might shoot 5 out of 6 rockets, but the one last rocket still does it's job.
Thanks for the video - what response would you make to other claims that Russia has been jamming GPS in the area of HIMARS targets, meaning that the rockets have to failover to their inertial guidance, which is much less accurate? Seems like there might be more explanations as to why they haven't been effective seeing as there are still lots of targets within 90km of the front line...
I see no mention of GPS jamming. Also pretty funny to just assume russian mirrors for satellites are inferior to any degree without having a shred of evidence
I'd rather see a video on all the old Leopard I's, F-16 As and Bs, and other obsolete weapons that NATO countries are hanging on to for no good reason.
You left out perhaps the biggest reason HiMars is not in the news. The rockets are GPS guided. Russia is doing a much better job of jaming GPS. 100;s maybe 1000 rockets need to be sent back to the states and refitted with jam resistant guidance systems. The US may need a several year R/D effort to design and build a new guidance system for those rockets.
its not in the news lately, because the Ukrainians got all new toys the media refocused its terrible attention span toward. if you look at the decreased amount of Russian artillery fire across the front, and the failure of their winter offensive, you'll see HIMARs is still playing a significant role in the war.
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@@prfwrx2497 lol stalingrad? Nazis were wiped out. In Bahkmut its the same. 🤣🤣. Russians fixed the ukrainians in one place and got showered with artillery. Why you think russians left kherson and kharkiv? Bombing that crimean bridge was a mistake after all. You want the russians spread out if your a a defensive army. You want all the ukrainians in one place if you are in offense.
There are two versions, the GPS variant actually came a ways after the unguided version. The original purpose of the system was saturation attacks on soft targets like ammo depots. The GPS version is simply an evolutionary bonus of the system.
Incorrect. EW has had a relatively small impact on GMLRS effectiveness, it has a very good INS. In reality what’s caused reduced effectiveness of GMLRS is a series of software updates and doctrinal shifts in Russian air defense that’s made them better able to shoot down the missiles.
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Himars had the effect of surprise. The Russians weren't ready for massive (realy massive) ballistic missile attacks. Since this greatly overloaded their air defense due to the high altitude and the number of incoming targets. However, now they have significantly improved the software of air defense systems, adapting them to the new reality. That is why they are now shooting down more than 90 percent of the Himars flying at rear facilities.
I’ve heard Russia has had success jamming some of the Himars. That’s how war goes, an opponent brings in a new weapon and the other side figures ways to stop them.
The jamming can't affect the INS system. All it does is prevent the fine tuning updates to the missile's position, but it's still going to hit near the target.
No HIMARS in glorious counter offensive. They are probably saved for Autumn offensive or next Spring offensive, along with Abrams, Challenger 2 and F-16s.
How about a video on all the old Leopard I's, F-16 As and Bs, and other obsolete weapons that NATO countries are hanging on to for no good reason. Or how M1Abrams tanks are easy to learn to use according to salespeople, but impossible to learn according to the Pentagon and White House? Maybe a video on why F-16s are too vulnerable for use on military bases with 1,000 km of Russia?
Interesting that the Ukrainian Air Force is still conducting offensive operations despite Russia apparently having the ability to completely shut down any airstrip in the country. Almost like F16s could operate just fine in Ukraine, just with an additional requirement to do a FOB sweep before takeoff.
What about GPS jamming and spoofing of HIMARS missiles which has been reported in some social media siites? Is that a factor\ why there we are no longer hearing as much about HIMARS: the missiles themselves keep missing due to Russian EW actions?
GPS interference simply reduces accuracy, GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion: "The GMLRS rocket includes a Global Positioning System (GPS)-aided inertial guidance and control unit, intended to produce accuracy of 2 to 3 mils with inertial-only guidance and less than 15 meters circular error probable (CEP) with GPS." "In its most accurate mode, the JDAM system will provide a weapon circular error probable of 5 meters or less during free flight when GPS data is available. If GPS data is denied, the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less for free flight times up to 100 seconds with a GPS quality handoff from the aircraft. "GLSDB guidance system: GPS supported INS. According to Saab, it is accurate to within one meter and is resilient to electronic warfare jamming. The production SDB I is equipped with Rockwell Collins GPS receiver, with a Harris anti-jam module, and a Honeywell inertial unit"
@@msytdc1577 "GMLRS, JDAM, and SDB are not reliant upon it, it is simply used in an assistive fashion" As I understand it they ARE reliant upon GPS for guidance to the target. True, some of them also have inertial guidance but that is reportedly not as accurate. That in turn has caused at least some of that US-supplied weaponry to miss the intended targets, which in turn has led to videos such as: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GpfCtdCTINc.html Other outlets such as the Kyiv Independent, NBC News, and Popular Mechanics have also produced articles or videos on the matter. So it does seem to be a significant issue. msytdo: "the JDAM will achieve a 30-meter CEP or less" 30 meters is a significant miss, especially against a hardened target.
because this happens in every war, everytime a new "wonder" system is introduced, it has a big punch initially because of the surprise effect but then your enemy that is also an intelligent human that well does not like to die, adapts to the threat and blunts the effect, Himars still are for sure a major threat to the Russians and even the fact they are "there" not even shooting but present make them push back logistics causing havoc on munitions, food, diesel etc etc support, also they are not cheap and if your enemy is giving you less "tastier" targets on your attack range, sometimes it's not worth the squeeze to send an himars on a building with small munition caches.... so you only use them actively when its a worth while target! Slava Ukraini!
Oh, don't forget that Russia has also put effort on electronic warfare against GPS munitions including the GMLRS, which have been reported by news source. There are also ongoing tuning of those munitions for ECCM, as well as Ukraine going after the jammers. You may see some of those executed tasks through SNS and posted videos online. Meanwhile, Russia is also doing more work on camouflage.
Also a thing to remember, Russia is destroying whole warehouses of ammunition and military gear, and they do it on relatively frequent basis. So there is no way that they didn't destroy some launchers , and missiles with their strikes. Also, a thing to remember HIMARS are within range of Lancet kamikaze drone, and Orlan recon drone. With less himars strike videos/photos, the only conclusion is that they are short on launchers and ammo.
How is this even a question? HIMARS strikes are still regular and successful occurrences. They just aren't resulting in spectacular explosions from hitting massive, messy ammo dumps. Russia dispersed and moved back the ammo dumps--the ones that weren't blown up yet.
@@isserdigan2835 How do you know? Ukraine and the west hides that information like the destroyed patriot battery. They said it was slightly damaged but we know it was taken out. You need to stop guessing and get with the fact that Ukraine is losing big time. You might not want to hear that but Russia is going to go on an offensive very soon and when it does you will see how savage they really are.
None have been destroyed; I wrote Oryx blog and asked, and none are on record (ie proof) as being destroyed. Where the Russians are lying idiot pieces of shit, is they try and claim the trucks sent to tow the M777 gun are HiMARs. They use the same truck chassis but there are no pictures of actual destroyed HiMARs.
@@Vile_Entity_3545 So Russia claims they hit Bradleys, Patriots and NATO generals and there's no pictures. Ukraine hits a S-400 command post vehicle, there's pictures of it completely shredded (with blood visible), etc and that's propaganda?
Russia shooting GMLRS down?? With what? Pansir? Tor? Yeah no. They’re not shooting any down. It’s a waste of air defense missiles. Also not cost effective. And ukr is still using these missiles to great effect. In May 2023 a GMLRS destroyed a S-400 command truck. A S-400!!!! And you’re sitting here telling us Russia is shooting them down. If Russia was shooting them down then S-400 command trucks wouldn’t be getting hit. Give me a break 😂
It is known Russia is moderately successful in jamming GMLRS for a while now. Making GMLRS lose its bearing amount to shooting it down. Might be a bad choice of word. But i did heard about a couple of case of direct interception. Was it to protect very important assets or to gather data for development of a cheaper counter is up to speculation.
@@mathieusimoneau3358Russia isn’t actually jamming gps signals. They are spoofing gps signals. Meaning, Russia produces a stronger gps signal but offsets the coordinates by X amount causing the rockets to land in the wrong place. But that’s easily fixed by figuring out where the first rocket hits then readjusting the coordinates to compensate for the spoofing.
just the effect of adaptation. Russians adapted to TB-2, HIMARS, Excalibur etc etc and will adapt to Stormshadow. Same can be said about ukrainians against russian arsenal to some extend i would say
They took out the storm shadow in the big ammo dump explosion a couple of weeks ago. The depleted uranium is being monitored as it heads over Europe. They reckon the postcard that Britains defence minister gave to the Ukranian official which had the SU-24 loaded with them had the air force groups insignia in the corner, which told the Russians what air base it was at. Then Boom a few days later. That is how dumb the west and Ukraine is.
Given Russia's logistical issues, forcing them to keep moving their fuel and ammo dumps and command posts further and further back to avoid getting lit up by HIMARS causes them significant issues which is a huge win by itself. I would expect that HIMARS strikes are coming down directly on Russian forces dug in at the front now, much less sexy targets but still quite important.
I’m sure at zero hour of the spring/summer offensive, every HIMARS the AFU has will be popping off non stop and servicing a long target list of every high value target within range. I wouldn’t be surprised that they have been saving rockets to use for this. It will be a Ukrainian “Shock and Awe”
@@MrPloopi Bayractars are still used, tho mostly for scouting apparently. Theyre just too vulnerable to get close for strikes. And mind, if B2s were still very useful, then Ukraine is also motivated to not talk about he weapon. Makes them less of a target.
Umm... what? "Gerans" and Kalibrs literally strike Ukrainian ammo depots every single day now. If anything, they're more effective now that Ukraine has lost/expended most of its S-300 & BUK SAM's. Patriot just gets destroyed by Kinzhal, and is only placed in Kiev/Kyiv. Several major AFU ammo depots and an airfield were destroyed by them in the last week alone.
@@InvaderNatDT Literally russian propaganda lmao. All claims but zero evidence. Claims Patriot is only in Kiev, when it shot down four russian aircraft behind the frontline (2x SU-30s series, 2x Helicopters), in a single day. So you saying the Patriot can shoot from Kiev to 50km behind the frontline to the russian side? Guess Russia is really screwed then :^)
Himars changed the game considerably for Ukraine, those early hits were wonderous, I'm pretty sure Ukraine is in stealth mode and has been for a while, we hear about stuff going in but Ukraine is a hide n seek champ and obviously holding their cards close.
@@akogepayo Bakhmut wasn't a defeat for Ukraine, it was a controlled evacuation of an area of contact maximising enemy casualties, remember Severdonetsk?, Same.
@@Mark5mith biggest cope ive ever heard zelensky himself said we will never surrender bakhmut... truth is ukraine lost the battle after sending tens of thousands of units to defend it. Losing tens of thousands of lives and lots of equipment. It was an organized withdrawal until the very last moment. Ukraine should've left the town many months ago
@@retrorythmband5110 so? It still happened. This is a war of attrition at this point. Let’s see who runs out of money first. NATO aka the US or Russian which pre sanctions had an economy the size of Italy’s. It took vlad p00ping months and many lives and equipment to take over bakhmut only to occupy a waste land. He is going to have to do the same in every single town, city in Ukraine. At some point cons are going to out way the pros and he will be forced to cut his loses and accept defeat.
@@ivancho5854 It used to be good until the propaganda about what is going on in the war. I don’t know whether it is because he is just listening to the MSM or because he hates Russia.
What happened to HIMARS? Absolutely nothing. Still doing work and has been since delivery. Ukraine hasn't received the longer range GLSDB(Ground launched small diameter bomb) yet. In fact, the manufacturers said the earliest they could deliver was June(literally a couple days from now) or maybe even August. GLSDB was only a concept that had been tested and proven. No orders had been filled yet. Ukraine will be the first to use it. :) Manufacturers being Boeing and SAAB...I have no doubt that they will work as advertised. EDIT: HIMARS would NOT be hiding in a nearby garage. That would be going against the very basic concept of why it was designed. It's in the name of the system. "HIGH MOBILITY" meaning it should shoot....and haul ass. Russia has no way of getting its guided weapons in range to hit a moving HIMARS vehicle. If they do like you think, shoot and hide nearby the massive columns of smoke giving away its position....of course they could destroy them. It's designed to fire and move. That's exactly how the Ukrainians were trained to use them and it's exactly how they are using them. Hence why they haven't lost any yet. EDIT #2: Russia is no doubt shooting SOME of these rockets down. Russia can't just leave it's air defense hot 24/7....you would be begging the Ukrainians to toss a few HARM's their way. Russia isn't shooting down the number it claims. They haven't told a single truth since the war started. It's actually insane how much these people lie and bend the truth.
38 Himars and 15 m270, they have gave too much of them, not sure they all useful cause not enough ammo for all of them. They surely not lack of launchers. 🙃Since the strike of orhtodox christmas we don't hear that much of Himars strikes. If they were so effective or have enough ammo Ukrainians would have not lose Bhakmut cause they would have a range advantage to suppress Russian artillery. Saying they didn't lose any in almost one year of use sounds like BS to me. Lack of ammo, difficulties to produce enough ammo and Russian effective anti air defense solve the problem. Russia don't even really need to destroy them, USA could easily replace them, the main problem is ammo. We literally never hear of switchblades, Russian anti air defense seems to not be a myth. They claim to intercept hundreds of drones per day. OK maybe they lie but you can't make such claims without intercepting few dozens/day. Last year when Himars was presented, it was suggested like very hard rockets to intercept, it seems it's doable in fact.
Gliding bombs are not under power, so are harder to disrupt with smaller anti-missile ordnance. It doesn't take much to clobber a thin skinned missile, but the iron bomb is a flying tank. Plus it IS maneuverable.
