i think the dude lowkey happy where he is in the industry, he's been super clear about his views on his success and at least tries to use his platform to bring more important topics to light
@@spacebar9733 it's not about whether or not you like him, he had a point when he said he didn't deserve to win virtually any of those awards. his music at least at the time was not anything interesting or meaningful the way kendrick's good kid, M.A.A.D city was. even by his own admission, his work was not as good as his competitors. i think it was him owning up to the fact that he won due to bias in the grammys, whether or not it was racial we won't ever know you can totally still like his music
I feel bad for Marcklemore, because the full wrath should have been solely on the Grammys. One win would've raised an eyebrow? That much of a sweep? Those boys were bugging.
Macklemore is the only artist to shed light about the massacres happening in my african country of Sudan, while all these other rappers silent, so he forever a legend
Valid but look at the turmoil The US is in. Kinda hard looking out when we are struggling ourselves. Ignorance is bliss. Macklemore is white. He doesn’t have to deal with the hood and looking behind his back and having to weed out homies from leeches.
Macklemore goes over his side in his follow-up album This Unruly Mess I've Made (literally the first track mentions this situation). He's vaguely hinted that the fame he achieved since Heist was making him uncomfortable, and he's chosen to mostly just be an indie artist/activist/family man since then. The Grammy shit was fucked up tho.
These hip hop incel communities really trying to make Drake career ruined into a thing. I remember one post where they tried to force Kendrick as good looking onto us, and the people said, ohhh hell nah, no you going too far lol
I will say one thing though, Macklemore really does care. It's true that he sometimes goes too far with his White guilt. But it coming from a good place. Recently, he has been using his platform to show solidarity with the protests against the Gaza Genocide. Hind's Hall has become an anthem for the Free Palestine movement.
He also took a financial hit by refusing to play in the UAE because they’re funding the Sudanese war/genocide, which I really respected as a Sudanese person who’s family have been victims of it.
Mac is doing alright, probably where he wants to be. Plus, he’s amplifying the voice of the people of Palestine. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the very powerful people against that would also be suppressing his career.
@@xeviuniverse His art might not be for everyone 🤷🏾♂️. But frankly hating on him while he’s trying to speak out on Genocide is disgusting 🤢 & your black too 🤦🏽♂️ the irony. 🤦🏽♂️
Macklemore did come off insincere by posting the apology publicly, but I'd argue THE GRAMMYS ruined his career. Their stupid decision cursed him to backlash, even if he didnt say shit imo. He made it worse, but real hip-hop was about to become mainstream and you know people wouldn't wanna be caught dead bumping Macklemore once they made him a poster boy of everything wrong with the industry.
It's not insincere when you've got people clowning on you for something you had no control over. He posted it to get people to shut up but people lack internal monologues so they can't see the forest for the trees.
The Grammys screwed Macklemore just as much as Kendrick. In one night the entire rap community turned against a dude that, at his worst, was kind of cringe but still a good rapper making fun music
Just here to inform everyone that Macklemore has cancelled a show in Dubai due to the war in Sudan, which I believe is being funded by the UAE. Not many people know about this war (I didn’t know about it until the Macklemore thing), so be sure to spread awareness.
He is touring as we speak, his shows are so packed. Lots of dedicated fans. Plus he speaks out about Palestine, Congo, Sudan. His career is fine and he looks very happy in life 🍉🍉🍉
It's lowkey true tho slim shady was very commercial back in the day a lot of that music could definitely be considered on the pop-rap side there was no real message just vibes
That's not actually a change at all. Also, not sure what kind of values you're showing if you apologize to someone for something that you had no control over, then post it on social media.
Yo, you can't just say it's a refreshing "change" as if activism hasn't been in the genre's DNA since the very beginning and unlike other genres, it's done a better job at staying true to those roots.
Normally, I'd just keep walking past a dumb youtube comment, but this actually insulting. It ignores the score of rappers both past and current that will go on about some deep and heavy topics effecting the , or even the more commercial acts that will still pay lip service to issues because if they don't, a large amount of their base is going to call them out on it and will put their bottom line at risk. Ignoring all them, in favor of Macklemore, says a lot about you as a person.
@@wolfgang7850how many of those rappers are giving money PLUS making speeches at protests PLUS making activist songs PLUS cancelling concerts in genocidal countries in support of social issues today? You’re being disingenuous
@@user-yl2so8db5t A lot actually, this is a genre pushed by artists largely from a disenfranchised group of people. As I said in my comment, even your most commercialized, mass-appealling acts, your Jay-Z's, and once upon a time, your Kanye West's before whatever caused him to start trying to cater to nazis. Even they'd still say or do something at times. I'll concede though, a lot only really pay attention to black issues, because that's what's effecting them, and that's just a symptom of a greater tunnel vision in our culture that stems from a variety of issues but even then you bring it up and explain, a lot of people will usually agree with you.
don't forget the 2001 grammys album of the year, nominees included radiohead's kid a, midnite vultures by beck, the marhshal mathers LP, and who wins? steely dan's "two against nature" of course
Honestly… Macklemore is a massive ally and loves his life like a real one. He’s a good bean and I wish people would give him more credit. The Grammy’s thing was incredibly fucked up though. Watching that unfold live was craaaazy.
I have to say Macklemore was very cringe for me at that time but his stance about Palestine is perfect and very important to see a world known artist speaking about it in the open because only underground artists do it and I hope to see Kendrick will spit on the mic or speak about it too. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Macklemore is also consistently taking a stand against the genocides going on right now and has spoken out against the occupation. he wrote Hind’s Hall & has remained steadfast which is a lot more than i can say for almost everyone else in the industry. i have a lot of respect for macklemore, he may move weird sometimes but he’s an advocate for humanity rn & we need more of it
Careers are overrated. Macklemore is known as a legend for those songs even if he isn’t respected in the hip hop community the average person can appreciate him
he is really only know for 1 song.. and that song is what made going to a thrift shop so expensive now. So he literally ruined the thing he made the song about
i gotta say this shit, as someone who hates macklemore's music. when mike brown got murdered and we shut down the i5 in seattle, he was there. no security. not being a celebrity. the guy used his clout to allow black folks to get a chance to speak over an often unruly pnw direct action sorta demographic. the man put himself at risk in a way that i don't think other rappers would have. he said some awkward shit, but he is a real one. again i don't like his music, but he's using it present day to make a real difference.
Yeah, but him sending that message proved that the grammys were biased. Since then, the viewership has significantly dropped. No one cares about it anymore.
Thank you, I heard it and I was like "what?". I remember when he also made a video on the Kamikaze interview where he talked about Eminem being petty and tried to paint it in a bad light. I like his videos but his bias shows sometimes
Macklemore did the right thing by apologizing to Kendrick Lamar (even though it wasn't his fault he won the Grammys), but he shouldn't have proved it to the world he apologized. Because for some reason people have a problem with that even tho they wanted the apology more than the person who deserved the apology.
That’s probably why he posted it tbh, he was probably getting hounded by people saying he didnt deserve it he should apologise etc, so he said alright bro i did here, cant really blame him tbh
@@RomaroBrandon50% of people lack an internal monologue so they can't critically think about anything, he was screwed no matter what he did because half the people on this planet are reactionary creatures who can't read between the lines.
You got to respect Mack, he's actually a really good dude. Treats people very good around him and he's not even out there to try and shit on every rapper out there. He just makes his own music that appeals to a certain audience. Plus out of all the rappers on the list it's like.. Kendrick..kanye...mac....
His song “Same Love” is what pushed him to mainstream success. It was a rap song in support of same sex relationships. This made him a more “friendly” rapper that could be played in every household. This was also during the time when gay acceptance wasn’t as high as it is today. It was a big deal to have a song about LGBT topics. As a gay man, and in hindsight, I can see how the media really wanted to push this message instead of the hardships that most rappers rap about. Women and gay men are the demographic that buys the most concert tickets and albums. A good strategy if you ask me.
I remember he did an interview with Hot 97 the very next day to explain further with his reasoning for feeling conflicted with winning the grammy award. I felt like he did that in order to appease the black audience.
@@kingace6186 with all due respect it’s not about honesty it’s the way he went about it that cause so much confusion. You can state how you feel without the need to prove something to anybody.
@@DaquashaGfrom what I read and heard dude had kind of a breakdown in general at that point and felt very conflicted about the Grammy thing for real which caused this weird spiral of self doubt. Heist itself covers a lot of those topics so it was already a case before the Grammys and that whole thing seemed to drive him over the edge "A wake" covers the conflict of trying to help out the cause but also feeling like a potential "white saviour" He was also dealing with a relapse after a three year sober streak which caused him to feel like a fake and like he failed all the people that told him he inspired them to get clean Also like half the album is about fighting the music industry and capitalism, his rising from backpack rapping, reminiscing about his childhood and home and not getting lost in this new reality. Dude could reasonably have a big dissociative moment after the thing he hates causes him to soar to super stardom, there is a lot if mixed feelings there that could seriously fuck up somebody already dealing with an identity crisis and self doubt, especially with the added pressure from the media and internet
Hinds Hall was phenomenal, and I appreciate Xavi for highlighting WHY this man just Thanos-ed out for a moment. The one thing I do like is, at least Macklemore is honest with himself and doesn't bow down to industry ish, there's a lot to be said for that
Like for real, the entire reason early career Eminem primarily dissed pop stars was because he hated the fact that he was compared to them and wanted to be known as a rapper first and foremost.
@@QuoththeRavenRequiemYeah, but he had to recognize that he was falling into the pop space if that was the cause of his animus. If you actually look at a lot of the things that he did early in his career, it's actually really valid to say that he was acting like a pop star for quite a while. Speaking from personal experience, I remember him being played on KRoq, a rock station in Southern California. They only played Rock. The only other rappers to ever get airtime on KRoq before they started having a dedicated show that only aired Sunday night after midnight, were the Beastie boys, Cypress Hill, and eventually DMX (specifically they played Who We Be).
The first three songs to break Billboard 100 were "my name is" "real slim shady" and "Stan" which literally sampled a pop artist. He blew up due to his more pop style rap songs.
The only good thing about Macklemore is that he is outspoken about the Palestinian genocide and the South Sudan ethnic displacement, even if he does it to grift, bringing awareness is still good. Edit: I did not call Macklemore a grifter, the reason I used IF is exactly because I do not want to accuse him. But as I said somewhere else, it takes time for me to trust a western white man. Also, an example of pro Palestine grifter is Jackson Hinkle, a neo nazi...
“He does something good and unfairly controversial that the pro-gncde government despises and constantly cracks down on people and even cost a few politicians their seat in government by speaking out against the barbaric gncde our government is actively engaging in. But it’s disingenuous and a grift. Why? Iunno, but it’s fake as shit. But it’s still good, because he’s literally doing a good thing.” Yea man, I don’t know where you’re going with all that, but big up Macklemore for being one of the only (and certainly the loudest) rapper in the game actively, openly, and consistently speaking out about this atrocity. Meanwhile, Kendrick’s busy shitting all over Drake’s career. And while I love to see it, it is noticeable that he only speaks on black people’s issues while Macklemore is speaking up for the Global South (which includes many black people, as Mandela said, none of us are free until Palestine is free, which makes it no surprise that South Africa was the first to go to bat for Palestine during their gncde).
i don’t like drake but his career is far from dead. He just dropped some ass EP and is pulling 100mil streams from it. Dude is larger than life no matter what you think
@@lewissteward65 they also seemed to not be very attentive listener "They say, "It's so refreshing to hear somebody on records No guns, no drugs, no sex, just truth" The guns, that's America, the drugs are what they gave to us And sex sells itself, don't judge 'til it's you Uh, I'm not more or less conscious Than rappers rapping 'bout strippers up on a pole, poppin' These interviews are obnoxious Saying that "It's poetry, you're so well spoken," stop it I grew up during Reaganomics When Ice T was out there on his killing cops shit"
Yeah, Macklemore should have just shouted out Kendrick and told people to go support him. HOWEVER - he's one of few stars who has brought attention to the gen'ocide in Palestine and police brutality against US student protesters. I may not listen to his music, but I have WAY more respect for that than anything else other rappers are doing.
Macklemore is just painfully aware, maybe a little people-pleasing. But he's not afraid, to quote someone I don't remember, to take a stand. So far, he's stood up on some really important issues where the others haven't said a word. I'm sorry if you think he overcompensated, but from where I see it, he saw the privilege and owned up to it.
Nah you can’t lump em in with Macklemore. He’s been a rapper since day 1, never switched up and has arguably bodied everyone on that nomination screen, including Wayne. And never used the n word to do it. They are not the same. Logic would be a better comparison 😂
Saying Eminem was a pop artist just cause he’s white is crazy. Man grew up in the gutter, was heavy in the Detroit battle rap scene, got signed to dre. He’s a rapper. Not a pop artists. Stop hating cause he ain’t black. He’s the goat.
Not gone lie; I was taught if something happened in public apologize publicly, if something happened privately apologize privately. I think Macklemore did everything correctly and that’s-why he’s able to move so freely. 💯
I don't think this is particularly fair to Eminem or Macklemore. Macklemore is from Seattle, and he had been rapping for a long time in the local underground scene before The Heist dropped. He doesn't have crazy street cred or anything, but defining him as "a pop star who raps" is a little disingenuous to how he came up. His biggest issue is publicly overcompensating for what is a larger industry issue with White artists making Black music being propped up over Black artists - an issue that existed long before Macklemore or Em. Honestly, if he just took his Grammies & kept it pushing, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Em? He's from fuckin Detroit. Came up in the battle rap scene. Only got famous because his demo cd randomly ended up in the hands of the greatest rap producer to ever live. He has _at least_ two bonafide classic albums to his name. I know his music is a bit stale these days, but calling him "a pop star who raps" is just fuckin incorrect. That's like calling Jimi Hendrix "a nigga in a band."
I already thought Thrift Shop was annoying but then Macklemore kept coming out with those virtue signaling songs and it was just lame af. Him, Lorde, and Iggy are 3 artists from the 2010s I'm glad I don't have to hear another song from.
Eminem was a pop star who raps? Rap Olympics eminem? Clowned canibus in a rap beef eminem? Love the channel and keep the great videos coming but wtf lol.
At least Macklemore is one of the only rappers nowadays speaking about genocide when no other artist in his genre of music is, including Kendrick…fallen off or not at least the man still has spirit and a voice used for change, free Palestine
I'd say he's famous for the disrespect in his lyrics. I'd say most people who know him know of him through his music in one way or another, not like say T69 who some people only know because he snitched or whatever
